Caylee Marie Anthony #96 1/22/09 - 1/23/09

[luckycharmsprincess]

Good morning everyone! 

A few things I want to mention. 

Last night, in the earliest reports by media, it was said that when found, George had to be resuscitated.  Then later said that he had no drugs.  What did he need to be resuscitated from???  Some form of meds perhaps.. or... ? 

Also it was mentioned that there were TWO notes found, one in the car and one in the motel room, both unfinished.  Texts messages to family, none to Cindy.  And a note (or text?) that was finished, successfully sent to LE. 

What I'm thinking this morning is that it's very possible whatever he sent to LE contained either the truth of what he knew, or.... perhaps he made up a bunch of stuff taking the entire blame for Caylee's death on himself to perhaps get Casey free, then perhaps did intend to take his life before they could disprove him. 

Not sure yet if what happened last night was an actual suicide attempt or a cry for help.  We do know, and it has been mentioned already, that when someone is serious about completing suicide, they just do it, no calls/texts, no telling anyone who could have a chance to intervene.  So on the face of it, it appears that this was a cry for help.  On the other hand, he may have tried to write those notes to explain himself, (perhaps couldn't finish them) and then made the calls to Nejame and ?? to apologize and say thank you, before attempting to take his life.  Because the very earliest reports were that he needed to be resuscitated.  Not sure why they are saying this morning that there was no actual attempt made.  So again I wonder, why did they need to resuscitate? 

The part in red is simply not the truth..I know this for sure...

Tater I have to agree with you. I know first hand that there can be many attempts before it finally happens. One of my co-workers was under a ton of stress, going through a divorce and having an affair, job was in jeopardy. The man she was in love with up and moved his family to California without even telling her goodbye. She was devastated. The husband she divorced had been trying to get her back for awhile. During a depressive episode, she agreed to go to dinner with him. At the dinner when she was looking for a friend in her ex but rather than being that, he completely wailed on her. Humiliating her publicy telling her he had changed his mind and he no longer wanted her back, citing all of the classic reasons, you're fat, you're ugly, you're old...etc. Now of course none of that was true but in her mind she took them to be fact. She had attempted suicide 5 other times but none of her coworkers knew this until after the 6th attempt that was fatal. Friday night when everyone had left, she stopped by to speak to the lady who officed next door to me. They chatted, laughed a bit while I was on my way out. On Monday she did not show up to work. Her assistant was frantic, already having been privvy to her issues and getting extremely anxious. The assistant drove to her bosses house and let herself in with a key. Her house was neat as a pin. In the bathroom was a bottle of pills, a towel on the floor and two razor blades however she wasn't anywhere to be found. It was until a few days later that a farmer came acrossed her car parked in his field where she had shot herself in the head. I was shocked. Everyone was shocked. But as days went on, the stories emerged on what anguish and turmoil she had been in for years. When I was in school one of my mentors told me, there are two kinds of people in life, those who kill themselves and those who don't. It took me a long time to figure that out. Without knowing more history on George, it would be hard to categorize him and decipher which one he most likely fit. We do know from his 7-24-08 interview that he had 'broken' down due to stress, left Orlando and went to stay with a family member in 2005.

The mind can only take so much. If the below is true, to me, it is the first sign of possible healing. If you think about it, we rarely make changes when our life is going well. We typically have to get to a breaking point that tells us, ok, enough is enough. Emotional turmoil is a horrible place to be, regardless of the reason. Whether it is pure stress, guilt or fear that made him drive to that hotel, we can only hope he can now take the steps necessary to move forward with his life. I think everyone saw signs in George early on that he wanted to do the right thing but probably got caught up in the lies. Even on the Larry King episode in December, he did not sound good or look good.

For what it's worth I think this emotional crack was good because it shows he might be starting to understand the reality of everything that has happened. When he said he wanted to go be with Caylee, well, that's a very normal reaction to grief. It's a reaction I would have expected from everyone in the Anthony family that was close to Caylee. Of course I am very curious to know what the note said and what it will do for the case. Doing the right thing is not always the easiest thing. So, killing yourself to escape the pain is the easy thing. I am hoping that by his text messages that this was the first sign of George on the path to doing the right thing.

"I'm being told by sources close to the investigation that the note included wording like 'I want to go be with Caylee,'" Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio said.

[trimmonthelake]

If he really said Casey is innocent and is implicating her friends ... Ugghh!  Sorry I wasted even a smidgeon of sympathy on him this morning!  They all deserve each other ... the only one who didn't is sitting in a cardboard box.

Thanks Newfie - you said it nicer than what was going through my head.

I was of the fence about the suicide attempt and....well, I've fallen off the fence and George can go to he!! along with the rest of 'em.

Scoot over. 

[goodnmad]

Sorry I posted to soon, I am mad that it appears George has made a mockery of depression and suicidal thoughts, I really thought this was all real and not an attempt to cause reasonable doubt.

I know. I will be even more furious at the family if that is the case. But I'm going to sit back for now and wait b/c the media and their sources are wrong or misleading all too often. 

[flamom]

I feel really bad for George as well. I'm wondering what the note said that they found in the room? Could he be finally coming clean on the real story?

CBB, did you get your answer about Mark Fuhrman? I haven't heard anyone else say what he did last night!  I have to see the transcript from the show!

Furhman states something similar to : George finds the body in the trunk & sometime between the 24th & 30th of June, it is moved to the final resting place!  Mark Furhman believes that GA DID FIND CAYLEE'S BODY IN THE TRUNK WHEN HE GOT THE CAR HOME!!! 

Found a partial transcript and MF does say that he thinks GA saw Caylee's body

And now you can go from that timeline, the 16th, and start putting together the body, the body that was already in the putrification stage of decomposition, was placed in that vehicle after George Anthony saw it on the 24th.

So between the 24th and the 30th, the child was moved from its original location after death. That’s what the most important in this text message is to me.

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/casey-anthony-does-cindy-believe-casey-did-it/


George Anthony knows alot about alot of things.

I am sorry, that's not how I understood what was said. What i hear is that after GA last saw the car on the 24th, the body was then placed into it .. IMO I dont think GA ever saw the body, I dont think MF thought so either

[OriginalKat]

O/T but true story.  I was walking down the street at lunch hour on Michigan Ave. and a lady pointed at my suede jacket and said, "Don't you know a cow was murdered for that jacket."  I just looked at her and shook my head and said, "I didn't know there were any witnesses, now I'll have to kill you too."

Good comeback!

[trimmonthelake]

No rose, Peanut and Monken 


And still monkeys, this child has not been buried. It's not right. And I must say no matter how bad things got, I'd at least make sure that was done before I decided to leave this world. Sitting in a cardboard box. 

I'm sitting here feeling like a fool, knowing what it is like all to well to have deep depression and suicidal

 

[NewfieMonkey]

If he really said Casey is innocent and is implicating her friends ... Ugghh!  Sorry I wasted even a smidgeon of sympathy on him this morning!  They all deserve each other ... the only one who didn't is sitting in a cardboard box.

Thanks Newfie - you said it nicer than what was going through my head.

I was of the fence about the suicide attempt and....well, I've fallen off the fence and George can go to he!! along with the rest of 'em.

Scoot over. 

This branch is gonna get crowded!   

[QuietMonkey]

Sorry I posted to soon, I am mad that it appears George has made a mockery of depression and suicidal thoughts, I really thought this was all real and not an attempt to cause reasonable doubt.

If that's what this was, I'll have lost every last shred of sympathy I had. It makes no sense to me that he would want to end his life because he knows KC is innocent, and he believes her friends had something to do with it. I thought he was desperate because he couldn't live knowing what his daughter did, and that he couldn't stop it or that he didn't help in finding Caylee's body much sooner. I could understand him being distraught over that, but not if he believes his daughter is innocent and had nothing to do with Caylees death.
Why would he want to end his life because he believes KC is innocent????
Why not stay alive and help prove her innocence??
This makes no sense if he really said that!!! Also, why would he say Cindy was better off with someone else, or something to that effect?? That makes no sense either.
I hope those things turn out not to be true, because it makes my monkey head spin!!!

[akmom]

   I think I a glad that I missed most of this latest drama.  I do not believe this was a serious attempt by GA.  Men who try suicide almost always pick a method that will end with the result that they want.  He was at the motel with his blood pressure meds and beer.  Now it appears that in the note he is implicating Casey's friends in Caylee's death.  I am wasting no sympathy on the Anthonys.  This just looks like another attempt at smoke and mirrors to me.

[peanut]

I feel really bad for George as well. I'm wondering what the note said that they found in the room? Could he be finally coming clean on the real story?

CBB, did you get your answer about Mark Fuhrman? I haven't heard anyone else say what he did last night!  I have to see the transcript from the show!

Furhman states something similar to : George finds the body in the trunk & sometime between the 24th & 30th of June, it is moved to the final resting place!  Mark Furhman believes that GA DID FIND CAYLEE'S BODY IN THE TRUNK WHEN HE GOT THE CAR HOME!!! 

Found a partial transcript and MF does say that he thinks GA saw Caylee's body

And now you can go from that timeline, the 16th, and start putting together the body, the body that was already in the putrification stage of decomposition, was placed in that vehicle after George Anthony saw it on the 24th.

So between the 24th and the 30th, the child was moved from its original location after death. That’s what the most important in this text message is to me.

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/casey-anthony-does-cindy-believe-casey-did-it/


George Anthony knows alot about alot of things.

I am sorry, that's not how I understood what was said. What i hear is that after GA last saw the car on the 24th, the body was then placed into it .. IMO I dont think GA ever saw the body, I dont think MF thought so either

thank you. fuhrman was talking about the car, not her body. please, everyone reread it, the wording is very specific!

[OriginalKat]

If he really said Casey is innocent and is implicating her friends ... Ugghh!  Sorry I wasted even a smidgeon of sympathy on him this morning!  They all deserve each other ... the only one who didn't is sitting in a cardboard box.

If the note info is true (which I don't think it is really) then I would say it was a tactic that was planned.

Think about it though...George is probably getting admitted to psych ward so I don't think anyone would be talking about what was in it especially if it pointed the finger away from Casey. I think there would be a privacy privilege there for the patient. Even when someone does commit suicide the contents of the note are not revealed except to family.
Do you think Cindy/Conway has anything in backward way to do with the "investigator" info?

[littletxlady]

This wont win me any points, but George knew like all of us what the outcome could be.  He should have been strong, stronger, and gotten help early on.  Now he leaves his wife and son to go on without his support.  That is weak.

Not everyone can be strong.....and perhaps he has been as strong as he can....since we don't know what goes on behind closed doors, we don't know what he has gone through I don't think anyone can or should condemn him. I haven't walked in his or their shoes and I thank God for that......this was IMO a cry for help ....help I doubt he could get from either cin-cin or Lee. Goodness knows we have seen a lot....but what we haven't seen behind those closed door is probably terrifying. I don't think it's weak...I think it being human and from what I have seen, GA is the only person in this family that possess anything near normal in feelings and emotions in this family.

I was just catching up on the news about GA and I read your post. It stopped me in my tracks. Your comments are wise, insightful thoughtful and oh so very right! I pray he gets the help he is crying out for. 

[heykim]

in an ironic note:
they didnt wait THIRTY ONE DAYS to report that GEORGE was missing!

[NewfieMonkey]

If he really said Casey is innocent and is implicating her friends ... Ugghh!  Sorry I wasted even a smidgeon of sympathy on him this morning!  They all deserve each other ... the only one who didn't is sitting in a cardboard box.

Thanks Newfie - you said it nicer than what was going through my head.

I was of the fence about the suicide attempt and....well, I've fallen off the fence and George can go to he!! along with the rest of 'em.

Scoot over. 

This branch is gonna get crowded!   

Dang leroy & trimm!  I was JUST kidding!  << as Newfie was pushed off the branch - right outta the cage!  >>   

[cecilita]

I knew it...GA is a pathological lier and with all this circus LE should keep and eye on GA because it seems that he is very involved in the case.....

[flamom]

Good morning everyone! 

A few things I want to mention. 

Last night, in the earliest reports by media, it was said that when found, George had to be resuscitated.  Then later said that he had no drugs.  What did he need to be resuscitated from???  Some form of meds perhaps.. or... ? 

Also it was mentioned that there were TWO notes found, one in the car and one in the motel room, both unfinished.  Texts messages to family, none to Cindy.  And a note (or text?) that was finished, successfully sent to LE. 

What I'm thinking this morning is that it's very possible whatever he sent to LE contained either the truth of what he knew, or.... perhaps he made up a bunch of stuff taking the entire blame for Caylee's death on himself to perhaps get Casey free, then perhaps did intend to take his life before they could disprove him. 

Not sure yet if what happened last night was an actual suicide attempt or a cry for help.  We do know, and it has been mentioned already, that when someone is serious about completing suicide, they just do it, no calls/texts, no telling anyone who could have a chance to intervene.  So on the face of it, it appears that this was a cry for help.  On the other hand, he may have tried to write those notes to explain himself, (perhaps couldn't finish them) and then made the calls to Nejame and ?? to apologize and say thank you, before attempting to take his life.  Because the very earliest reports were that he needed to be resuscitated.  Not sure why they are saying this morning that there was no actual attempt made.  So again I wonder, why did they need to resuscitate? 

Color me skeptical re GA needing to be resuscitated.. I saw a video of him being escorted into the car.. I dont know any paramedic or fire dept down here who would resuscitate a patient and not transport them via ambulance to a hospital.. just sayin..

[cecilita]

in an ironic note:
they didnt wait THIRTY ONE DAYS to report that GEORGE was missing!

they know that GA can open his mouth and all the As will expend valentine's day in jail....

[goodnmad]

in an ironic note:
they didnt wait THIRTY ONE DAYS to report that GEORGE was missing!

So true and something we should never forget. 

[NewfieMonkey]

in an ironic note:
they didnt wait THIRTY ONE DAYS to report that GEORGE was missing!

That's because Conway was there.  Take note that he is the one who called.

[cecilita]

in an ironic note:
they didnt wait THIRTY ONE DAYS to report that GEORGE was missing!

they know that GA can open his mouth and all the As will expend valentine's day in jail....

I  think that GA does not want  to expend san vanelntine days with Cindy