Caylee Marie Anthony #96 1/22/09 - 1/23/09

[joesamas mama]

Hi!  I'm new here and this is my first post. 

Does anyone know why Jesse suspected he wasn't Caylee's father, which led to the paternity test?  Also, did they break up before the paternity test, or after?  I've been wondering this for a while now and thought maybe someone read it someplace.

Thanks bunches (of bananas!)

WELCOME BILLY'S MOM    Jesse's dad knew she was pregnant when he first met KC if I recall. Mr Grund told Jesse he needed to take a paternity test to find out if he really was the dad before he married KC and JG. They broke up after. Sorry if this has already been answered JSM is behind!

OK, thank you!!!

You are welcome. sorry it took me so long to get the story out. I'm not good at the condensed version. 

[wendiw8780]

sorry O/T

i am so cold  today & can't get warm. (going to get under the electric blanket) & my head hurts & stomach doesn't feel good! is this what some of the other monkeys have felt like or am i just stressed? figure, monkeys know as much as some drs!!!

wendi

[islandmonkey]

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[Grandma2Maddie]

I still want to know what Baez took out of the A's house that day, just after LE removed stuff with the search warrant.  It was the day or so after that search warrant served where they had just found Caylee's body and zoomed over to the A's house.  Think it was the next day that Baez went in there and took stuff.  We've never heard yet what he took.   

Just a thought but do you think that possibly this is a reason that the bar is investigating him?   Legally can he do that?  I have no legal background at all.

[Babybear]

On the Casey Anthony front Thursday: bar investigations of Jose Baez and change-of-venue theories.

WFTV-Channel 9 reported that Baez, Anthony's attorney, faces two Florida Bar investigations.

"You won't find this much information anywhere else," anchor Bob Opsahl said.

One investigation concerns how the attorney advertised himself. The other focuses on possible false statements against the state attorney and prosecutors made in releases from Press Corps Media, which handles publicity for Baez. False statements would violate the Bar's rules, but the stiffest punishment Baez would face is a letter that he went too far, Mary Nguyen reported. Todd Black, who runs Press Corps Media, told WFTV that the Florida Bar had no jurisdiction over his publicity firm.

  Maybe this has already been posted, I just don't remember THIS detail about FALSE STATEMENTS

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/ssssswesh-reported-that-the-florida-bar-is-investigating-jose-baezs-relationship-with-press-corps-media-baez-reported-wednes.html

Do you guys think what Todd Black said above is true, that "the Florida Bar had no jurisdiction over his publicity firm"?? 

Since Baez is a member of the Florida Bar and has to answer to them for what he says and does, why wouldn't anyone representing him not be liable to the Bar as well?     

I don't think that the FL Bar has any control over Black, but if what he says is true, i.e. Baez is making media deals, then I think they can use that in their investigation of Baez's source of funds to pay for the defense.

[Brandi]

sorry O/T

i am so cold  today & can't get warm. (going to get under the electric blanket) & my head hurts & stomach doesn't feel good! is this what some of the other monkeys have felt like or am i just stressed? figure, monkeys know as much as some drs!!!

wendi

Feel better soon, wendi!

[Billys_Mom]

Hi!  I'm new here and this is my first post. 

Does anyone know why Jesse suspected he wasn't Caylee's father, which led to the paternity test?  Also, did they break up before the paternity test, or after?  I've been wondering this for a while now and thought maybe someone read it someplace.

Thanks bunches (of bananas!)

wow!

Lots of new monkeys today!



Jesse took the paternity test at the prompting of his father, Richard Grund. They broke up well after that. The paternity issue was not what broke Casey and Jesse up.

Glad to have you join the cage, BillysMom!

Thanks for the warm welcome y'all!

Do you know why they broke up? 

[higherhopes]

 I really liked it tonight when NG said if Le matches up the things from the crime scene to the house is it enough to send Tot Mom a first class ticket to the electric chair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AZLady]

If Casey gave the child baby medicine to put her to sleep, why would she need to tape her mouth?  Those medicines work pretty quickly, so even if Caylee were crying, she would have stopped fairly soon.  Of course, Casey has a pretty short fuse.

If that is the way Caylee died, it would not be first degree murder, more like negligent homicide because her intent would not have been to kill the child, just to make her be quiet and go to sleep.  It would be a horrendous thing to do to a child, but it would not be murder, in all probability.

I still think that if the tape was put around her mouth, it was because Casey wanted to not just shut her up but punish her for something she said.  It may have been that Caylee said she wanted to go home to grandma and that put Casey in a rage. 

The heart could have been put on afterward as a kind of sign of goodbye or even I'm sorry. We don't think of Casey as being in any way loving or warm but perhaps she had a moment of regret.  Duct tape is wide.  It would be hard to cover a little girl's mouth without covering her nose, too.  And it would be very frightening.

Casey could have thrown up and aspirated on the vomit, I suppose, but I definitely think the tape was put on as punishment and to stop the child from crying or saying something Casey did not want to hear.

We will never know unless Casey reveals her reasons, but I really don't see regret from Casey.  Casey, and the rest of the Anthony's, are very visual and conscious of appearances.  Casey loved taking pictures as evidenced by the thousands she had online and had collected online from other sources.  I also see a level of emotional immaturity and lack of connection that might be behind some of her behavior.  I think Casey just looked at Caylee with the duct tape on her mouth and thought a red heart sticker would complete the image she saw.  Casey created pictures or images, and Caylee was just another image that she put a sticker on.

[joesamas mama]

DD thinks that Casey gave the baby cough meds, then duct taped her mouth.
Baby threw up and died. There is a name for this type of death, but can't remember what it is. Casey couldn't call 911 for those reasons.
Oh, hello all and I am still kind of sick over this. So, I have backed off for a while. I did read most of the stuff they released.
What will convict her and end this stuff is :
Fingerprints from the duct tape. If hers are on there, Baez better make a new plan.
Although, he is just as crazy as her. Not only does he have to defend the undefendable, he has to carry the hopes and aspirations of the entire Hispanic culture, race & nation like a torch !
..
Duh ! I read alot and I have not seen anyone saying anything about race until he brought it up. He has been attacked, but not on that basis. 

Yes Katgram I thought this all along. I don't have a baby child, but a doggie child. I have given him benadryl to calm him down during a storm. I have stayed up all night just lying next to him to make sure he is still breathing. I have always thought she gave Caylee something like benadryl to make her sleep. BUUTTTT if she gave it to her and taped her mouth shut that is no accident and she deserves the DP, plain and simple.

Oh by the way, you ready to lace up your skates?

Joes mama i dont know who is more lucky, Joe for having you as a mama, or you for having josef as a son! Iv had my doggie for 4 years now, and i got him a girlfriend a couple months ago and they are expecting, iv nnever had a female dog, let alone a pregnant one so im super excited. Both parents are teacup chihuahuas!! O/T

I hardly think KC was waiting around to see if caylee was still breathing, i dont know what this snatch did to her daughter, but i wanna know, and i wanna know now!!!!

Thanks No1z, I am lucky to have him (but truth be told he was lucky to have me). Good for your new babies!! I've had other dogs, but he is my angel sent from God in Heaven.

I have always thought the benadryl angle until the chloroform info came out. I thought she just tried to quiet Caylee. But after the stuff yesterday and before about the duct tape. She killed that baby the way sickos throw puppies and kittens in the river. She did it on purpose. Makes me so sad! I hope you feel better. Please send me some germs! J/K

[Hudsunn]

Jesse was clearly in love with Casey.  When she told him she was pregnant, he was happy.  He was at the hospital when the baby came and he and his parents babysat Caylee for months.  His father advised him to get the paternity test just to be sure and so he would go into the marriage knowing the truth.  He was not the father, but he told Casey he would accept Caylee as his own and be her father.  Later, Casey told him she did not want to get married, and many think Cindy talked her out of marrying Jesse, because she did not like Jesse.

[Brandi]

I am very sorry for this O/T:
Klaas, could you please come to my thread?

[joesamas mama]

DD thinks that Casey gave the baby cough meds, then duct taped her mouth.
Baby threw up and died. There is a name for this type of death, but can't remember what it is. Casey couldn't call 911 for those reasons.
Oh, hello all and I am still kind of sick over this. So, I have backed off for a while. I did read most of the stuff they released.
What will convict her and end this stuff is :
Fingerprints from the duct tape. If hers are on there, Baez better make a new plan.
Although, he is just as crazy as her. Not only does he have to defend the undefendable, he has to carry the hopes and aspirations of the entire Hispanic culture, race & nation like a torch !
..
Duh ! I read alot and I have not seen anyone saying anything about race until he brought it up. He has been attacked, but not on that basis. 

Yes Katgram I thought this all along. I don't have a baby child, but a doggie child. I have given him benadryl to calm him down during a storm. I have stayed up all night just lying next to him to make sure he is still breathing. I have always thought she gave Caylee something like benadryl to make her sleep. BUUTTTT if she gave it to her and taped her mouth shut that is no accident and she deserves the DP, plain and simple.

Oh by the way, you ready to lace up your skates?

I thought you looked real cute in your little skating outfit.  I don't like to spend a night without my doggy pal, either.

Thanks Baby, I don't like being without my baby dog either. I think his Avatar is much sweeter though. Thanks

[higherhopes]

My son thinks loading the dishwasher means getting me drunk,

[Billys_Mom]

  Billys_Mom

WELCOME

Thank you very much!  I am so glad I found this site, I have learned so much here!

[Wyks]

Documents Show Casey Anthony Joked About Drugging Caylee to Sleep
Thursday, January 22, 2009

Newly-released documents in the Caylee Anthony murder investigation suggest that the Florida girl's mother once joked about drugging her to sleep.

The documents, which were made public on Wednesday, include reports on police interviews with a former boyfriend of the girl's mother, Casey Anthony, 22, who is charged with killing the toddler.

The former boyfriend, Ricardo Morales, told investigators that Anthony had joked about administering baby medicine to put Caylee asleep, though he also said it appeared that Casey had a normal relationship with her daughter, according to MyFOXOrlando.com's report on its review of the new documents ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481726,00.html

Thanks Janet! 

Not sure that Ricardo knows what a "normal" relationship with her daughter is tho, seeing as how he was perfectly fine with Caylee sleeping between them.   

[Hudsunn]

You are probably right, AZLady.  Now that we are hearing about all the arguments, accusations, yelling, Casey and Cindy both screaming at George all the time, lies, deceptions, dishonesty, financial problems, etc., I cannot help but contrast that with the glossy, perfect little snapshots in their family album.  All smiles.  Everyone well-dressed, house all neat and clean, everyone looking as if they were on vacation.  Maybe they thought they could create a fantasy life in film and it would somehow be real.  Meanwhile the neighbors heard them screeching at each other, George and Cindy separated, the wolf was at the door financially, and the police were called several times about verbal disturbances. 

[Wyks]

On the Casey Anthony front Thursday: bar investigations of Jose Baez and change-of-venue theories.

WFTV-Channel 9 reported that Baez, Anthony's attorney, faces two Florida Bar investigations.

"You won't find this much information anywhere else," anchor Bob Opsahl said.

One investigation concerns how the attorney advertised himself. The other focuses on possible false statements against the state attorney and prosecutors made in releases from Press Corps Media, which handles publicity for Baez. False statements would violate the Bar's rules, but the stiffest punishment Baez would face is a letter that he went too far, Mary Nguyen reported. Todd Black, who runs Press Corps Media, told WFTV that the Florida Bar had no jurisdiction over his publicity firm.

  Maybe this has already been posted, I just don't remember THIS detail about FALSE STATEMENTS

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/ssssswesh-reported-that-the-florida-bar-is-investigating-jose-baezs-relationship-with-press-corps-media-baez-reported-wednes.html

Do you guys think what Todd Black said above is true, that "the Florida Bar had no jurisdiction over his publicity firm"?? 

Since Baez is a member of the Florida Bar and has to answer to them for what he says and does, why wouldn't anyone representing him not be liable to the Bar as well?     

The Bar only has jurisdiction over attorneys.  I think Todd Black is trying to fall on the sword for Baez, MHO. It might work, however keep in mind, that Baez has hired Black as his PR Spokesperson.  Not that I think Baez would sue Black.

I don't think there is a REAL Todd Black. I researched him early on and there really is nothing concrete on him.  I have come to believe he is a pseudo name for someone else.

hmmm.. interesting!  If this is true, it's gonna be a riot if Todd Black and Zenaida are ever called into court as witnesses.   

[Grandma2Maddie]

I really liked it tonight when NG said if Le matches up the things from the crime scene to the house is it enough to send Tot Mom a first class ticket to the electric chair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We can hope this happens.  Put the rest of them in cells too!

[joesamas mama]

sorry O/T

i am so cold  today & can't get warm. (going to get under the electric blanket) & my head hurts & stomach doesn't feel good! is this what some of the other monkeys have felt like or am i just stressed? figure, monkeys know as much as some drs!!!

wendi

Stay warm Wendi. I hope you feel better!