Natalee Case Discussion #796 1/27/09 - 1/30/09

[Blue Moon]

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!!  KTF I KNEW YOU WERE A BOY MONKEY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION  LOL............  REALLY, I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE BY THE WAY YOU POST.

ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR, KY IS DECLARED AN EMERGENCY STATE....... IT SOUNDS LIKE SHOTGUNS GOING OFF IN THE WOODS BEHIND ME WITH THE TREE BRANCHES SNAPPING.  NOT AS BAD AS THE 1994 ICE STORM BUT STILL UNSETTLING.

PRAYING FOR ALL MONKEYS THAT ARE IN THE AFFECTED AREAS.  BIG DAY AHEAD OF ME AT WORK BUT I WILL CHECK IN LATER. 

STILL HERE FOR NATALEE.  WE WANT THE TRUTH AND JUSTICE.  BRING NATALEE HOME.

GOOD DAY TO ALL, STAY SAFE AND WARM!!

State of Emergency is correct.  It is a wild ride. But I still have electricity where LOTS do not.  They are housing people in churches, schools etc. just to keep them warm.

I see some have been threatened now.  How sad.  I didn't know you could file a "cease and dissist " order against an internet user name (which I assume is not your true name).  Amazing.  Kermit, bring it on.

[jen3560]

SS wrote:
Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS
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OMG!!!!!!  I left here last night laughing thanks to Tib.  And now first thing this morning I get another good laugh!

Thanks SS!!!!! 

Would you like reference to a good attorney to straighten you out on this?  I have an EXCELLENT one!

'Course, I don't think you'll like what she has to say about your chances...........

[johan555]

is it a On topic day today ??

[Blue Moon]

is it a On topic day today ??

Let's make it about Natalee today.  Sounds good to me.

[jen3560]

Sounds good to me too............

Let's get back to Jeannette Richardson for a moment.

She was Head of Staffing, wouldn't that mean she determined who worked what/where?

Remember vd straten headed up the investigation, until he "retired" in July 2005, and then Jeannette's hubby took over - Richardson.

Remember also the recent accusations about a less than stellar ALE team that was assigned to this case?

I wonder just WHO assigned that team?  Jeannette Richardson, by chance?

[klaasend]

Aruba
CBA: Capacity utilization hotels sharply lower
27 Jan, 2009, 14:36 (GMT -04:00)


 
The occupancy rate of hotels in the month of November last year was significantly lower than in the same period in 2007

ORANGE CITY-The average occupancy rate of hotels in November last year 71 percent, almost 10 percent lower than in the same period in 2007. This is reflected in the summary of the monthly report of the Central Bank of Aruba (CBA) on November 2008.

The data on the average occupancy rate of hotels have been provided by the Central Bureau for Statistics (CBS). They leave in November 2008 show a decrease of 8.9 percent. The Cruise Tourism Authority (CTA) in November 2008 a further decrease of 6.7 percent recorded in the number of cruise passengers. The number of vessels fell by 8.6 percent, compared with the corresponding month in 2007.

The provisional figures on the number of tourists to an increase of 4 percent seen in the first eleven months of 2008 compared with 10.3 per cent in the corresponding period of 2007. Figures from the CBS in November 2008 to an increase of 12.2 percent seen in the corrected number of passengers arrived through the airport, compared with the same period a year earlier.

CBA indicates that the growth of consumer spending is still slowing down to. This is supported by the figures on growth in consumer loans. The growth of consumer credit came in the first eleven months of 2008 from 4.2 percent, compared with growth of 6.2 per cent in the corresponding period of 2007. The income tax on company convert (BBO), adjusted for inflation, showed a decline of 2.4 percent in the month of November 2008, compared with the corresponding month of 2007.

In November last year, the consumer price index (CPI) increased by 4.4 percent compared with the corresponding month of 2007. The average twelve month inflation accelerated to 9 percent, compared with 5.4 percent in November 2007. The difference in inflation in the United States rose to 4.8 percentage points, compared with 2.6 percentage points in November 2007. Without water, electricity and gasoline to count increased the twelve month inflation in November this year by 0.7 percentage point to 5.4 percent, compared with the corresponding period a year earlier.

Money
In November 2008, the money supply increased by 51.1 million florin or 1.8 percent to 2889.7 million, due to an increase in net domestic assets of 56.5 million florin, which was partially offset by a net outflow of currency abroad abroad of 5.4 million florin. The net foreign asset fell to 1024.7 million at the end of November 2008. This is 297.8 million or 41 percent higher than the amount registered in the corresponding month of 2007.

The increase in net domestic asset was mainly caused by an increase of 33.2 million florin in the net assets of the banking sector on the
public sector, due to a decrease in bank deposits of the government.
Loans to businesses, consumer loans and residential mortgages increased by 10.4 million, 3.5 million and 2.5 million florin. The non-to-bank lending-related activities rose by 9.9 million florin.

Changes in the money supply in November 2008 (in millions florin):

1. Net foreign asset -5.4
2. Net domestic asset 56.5
      a. Net claims on the public sector 33.2
      b. Lending to businesses 10.4
      c. Consumer credit 3.5
      d. Residential mortgages 2.5
      e. Other receivables banking -3.0
      f. Not-to-credit-related activities 9.9
3. 51.1 Net change money

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52009.php

[Anna]

Sounds good to me too............

Let's get back to Jeannette Richardson for a moment.

She was Head of Staffing, wouldn't that mean she determined who worked what/where?

Remember vd straten headed up the investigation, until he "retired" in July 2005, and then Jeannette's hubby took over - Richardson.

Remember also the recent accusations about a less than stellar ALE team that was assigned to this case?

I wonder just WHO assigned that team?  Jeannette Richardson, by chance?

Most agencies/organizations/companies do not allow immediate members of the same family to work in the same area like this.
I find this very strange.  Also the fact that the extra "carnival" police were assigned to this case I think was a sort of inside joke or insult to the case as well.

Good Morning, Monkeys! 

Drinking coffee and reading about.

[Magnolia]

Good Morning, Caps,

Can you help us to clear any of this up?

[jen3560]

Sounds good to me too............

Let's get back to Jeannette Richardson for a moment.

She was Head of Staffing, wouldn't that mean she determined who worked what/where?

Remember vd straten headed up the investigation, until he "retired" in July 2005, and then Jeannette's hubby took over - Richardson.

Remember also the recent accusations about a less than stellar ALE team that was assigned to this case?

I wonder just WHO assigned that team?  Jeannette Richardson, by chance?

Most agencies/organizations/companies do not allow immediate members of the same family to work in the same area like this.
I find this very strange.  Also the fact that the extra "carnival" police were assigned to this case I think was a sort of inside joke or insult to the case as well.

Good Morning, Monkeys! 

Drinking coffee and reading about.

Glad I'm not the only one who does!!

Interesting also if you think about it...............last January (IIRC) Gelien was trying to tell Mos her "story", and had to be referred to Richardson - as it was Richardson thru whom ALL information/evidence was flowing to the OM's office.  (I know Janet has that article somewhere)

Richardson would also be the ONLY person (if we are to believe that) who would have interviewed this pond "witness" then as well.  NOT Clyde Burke.

[Anna]

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The only thing that bothers me about all this decline in tourism is that I think
they might try to use that as an excuse for not doing anything on this
investigation.  Say they don't have the money to pay for the manpower to
actually check anything out.

One excuse is just about as good as another, however.


.

[texasmom]

Sounds good to me too............

Let's get back to Jeannette Richardson for a moment.

She was Head of Staffing, wouldn't that mean she determined who worked what/where?

Remember vd straten headed up the investigation, until he "retired" in July 2005, and then Jeannette's hubby took over - Richardson.

Remember also the recent accusations about a less than stellar ALE team that was assigned to this case?

I wonder just WHO assigned that team?  Jeannette Richardson, by chance?

Most agencies/organizations/companies do not allow immediate members of the same family to work in the same area like this.
I find this very strange.  Also the fact that the extra "carnival" police were assigned to this case I think was a sort of inside joke or insult to the case as well.

Good Morning, Monkeys! 

Drinking coffee and reading about.

Glad I'm not the only one who does!!

Interesting also if you think about it...............last January (IIRC) Gelien was trying to tell Mos her "story", and had to be referred to Richardson - as it was Richardson thru whom ALL information/evidence was flowing to the OM's office.  (I know Janet has that article somewhere)

Richardson would also be the ONLY person (if we are to believe that) who would have interviewed this pond "witness" then as well.  NOT Clyde Burke.

I found it strange too, jen and Anna!  I've been trying to reason that one out; but I guess I should know better than trying to make sense of it...after all it is Aruba.

[jen3560]

I found it strange too, jen and Anna!  I've been trying to reason that one out; but I guess I should know better than trying to make sense of it...after all it is Aruba.

I think what raises my hinky meter the most about it, is that Dolphi's role was kept SO quiet, for SO long.

All we heard from/about after vd straten left was Dompig.  When as it turns out, it was Richardson all along who was pulling the strings - with Dompig merely in the public eye.

Why hide who was really in charge of the investigation for so long?

Why hide that his wife was (from all I've been able to find) the one making staffing decisions?

[Anna]

Yes, Mos seems to be becoming notorious for refusing to meet with people.  Not only did he refer Gelien to Richardson but he refused to meet with Tim Miller and then in his press conference is whining about not receiving the polygraph results.

At least that is the way I remember it.  I don't have Janet's superb filing system and am dependent on my memory for things like this.

And even before receiving those results, Mos as deemed this witness not credible.  I wonder on what basis he made that determination.

[klaasend]

Yes, Mos seems to be becoming notorious for refusing to meet with people.  Not only did he refer Gelien to Richardson but he refused to meet with Tim Miller and then in his press conference is whining about not receiving the polygraph results.

At least that is the way I remember it.  I don't have Janet's superb filing system and am dependent on my memory for things like this.

And even before receiving those results, Mos as deemed this witness not credible.  I wonder on what basis he made that determination.

Can't you just see him stomping his foot saying "NO, I WILL NOT MEET WITH YOU!"  lol 

[Magnolia]

What was Dolph Richardson's title?
I have heard Van der Stratten and Dompig referred to
as both Police Chief and Police Commissioner.

I think ALE is just a fly by the seat of the pants organization.
No rules really apply.

[Anna]

I found it strange too, jen and Anna!  I've been trying to reason that one out; but I guess I should know better than trying to make sense of it...after all it is Aruba.

I think what raises my hinky meter the most about it, is that Dolphi's role was kept SO quiet, for SO long.

All we heard from/about after vd straten left was Dompig.  When as it turns out, it was Richardson all along who was pulling the strings - with Dompig merely in the public eye.

Why hide who was really in charge of the investigation for so long?

Why hide that his wife was (from all I've been able to find) the one making staffing decisions?

But it was Richardson who came here to meet with Bachus along with AHATA or ATA Rep Arlene, right?  That should have been a clue.

Maybe they felt Dompig was the better PR person or had better English.  I always remember Dompig that time he was complaining about what Beth thought of him.  It was the most unprofessional interview of a LE officer I have ever seen in my life!

And now some want him to return as Chief because he is "tremendous"!

[Anna]

Yes, Mos seems to be becoming notorious for refusing to meet with people.  Not only did he refer Gelien to Richardson but he refused to meet with Tim Miller and then in his press conference is whining about not receiving the polygraph results.

At least that is the way I remember it.  I don't have Janet's superb filing system and am dependent on my memory for things like this.

And even before receiving those results, Mos as deemed this witness not credible.  I wonder on what basis he made that determination.

Can't you just see him stomping his foot saying "NO, I WILL NOT MEET WITH YOU!"  lol 

 


I can!  Looks particularly strange on someone of his height.


Remember, he also refused to meet with Greta.  That's what I mean by a pattern of refusing to meet with people about this investigation.  Guess he is afraid they will figure out that there is not one.

 

[Tamikosmom]

Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS

 

SS ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.  Please direct me to my posts that offended you personally.
Thank you.

Janet

SS ... my request as been ignored.  How am I suppose to defend myself against "your" accusation that I made making "false and libelous statements" against you.

I am on a mission to explore all the happenings encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti's partipation in the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... a coverup that may have resulted in a lost opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to her family ... home to rest on American soil.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if my words gave the impression that I was attacking you personally.  That was not my intention.  The topic encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking is my focus.

Janet

[jen3560]

Here is what looks to have been a direct tie between Jeannette Richardson and Jan vd Straten.

And note the date Jan was still a member of this committe - WELL after he was supposed to be off the island and in Bonaire.

This appears to be a supporting connection between those two and the MEP party......

Also another interesting last name seems to have popped up on this committee as well.....



http://www.arubachamber.com/ComisionBonBoluntad.htm

COMISION BON BOLUNTAD ta un initiativa di gremionan comercial y sindical - den cuadro di nan responsabilidad civico - pa duna aporte na e proceso electoral y e sistema democratico arubano. E comision tabata activo durante e eleccionnan pa miembro di Parlamento na aña 1994, 1997 y 2001. Na april 2005 e comision a worde re-activa en conexión cu proximo eleccion, oficialmente stipula pa dia 23 di september 2005. E comision ta consisti di siete miembro y ta traha a base voluntario. Na final lo tene un evaluacion di e campaña electoral 2005.

aim of the comision:

*for give one contribucion at one campaña electoral clean, transparente y of level halto;

*garantiza oportunidad equal for cada faction politico;

*evita actonan of violencia, destruccion or cu is stroba faction politico of
funciona.

tarea of the comision:

* stipula reglanan of conducta for her period of campaña;

* monitor the campaña electoral y colecta datos financiero of the campaña;

*close one econvenio voluntario cu the partidonan politico cu will participa at eleccion day 23 of september 2005;

*deal kehonan tocante the reglanan of conducta y the campaña electoral provided that general;

*sanciona violacionnan of the convenio voluntario by denuncia publico;

*publica one evaluacion of the proceso electoral y the relato financiero of campaña.

Members of Commission:


Dunador di trabao Ebby Arends – presidente di CBB
Lisette Malmberg – suplente


Sindicato: Jose Giron
Sixto Vrolijk – suplente


Enseñanza: Lydia Emerencia – vice presidente
Angelo Brete – suplente


Clero: Pader J. v/d Lee
Pader S. Tomasik – suplente


Cuerpo Policial: Jeannette Richardson
Jan v/d Straten – suplente


Secretario: Lorraine de Souza

[Tamikosmom]

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!!  GOOD MORNING ZOOKEEPERS.

Life outside the cage beckons this morning.

Later, Janet
8:30 AM PT