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« Reply #240 on: January 28, 2009, 11:31:15 AM »

Here is what looks to have been a direct tie between Jeannette Richardson and Jan vd Straten.

And note the date Jan was still a member of this committe - WELL after he was supposed to be off the island and in Bonaire.

This appears to be a supporting connection between those two and the MEP party......

Also another interesting last name seems to have popped up on this committee as well.....



http://www.arubachamber.com/ComisionBonBoluntad.htm

COMISION BON BOLUNTAD ta un initiativa di gremionan comercial y sindical - den cuadro di nan responsabilidad civico - pa duna aporte na e proceso electoral y e sistema democratico arubano. E comision tabata activo durante e eleccionnan pa miembro di Parlamento na aña 1994, 1997 y 2001. Na april 2005 e comision a worde re-activa en conexión cu proximo eleccion, oficialmente stipula pa dia 23 di september 2005. E comision ta consisti di siete miembro y ta traha a base voluntario. Na final lo tene un evaluacion di e campaña electoral 2005.

aim of the comision:

*for give one contribucion at one campaña electoral clean, transparente y of level halto;

*garantiza oportunidad equal for cada faction politico;

*evita actonan of violencia, destruccion or cu is stroba faction politico of
funciona.

tarea of the comision:

* stipula reglanan of conducta for her period of campaña;

* monitor the campaña electoral y colecta datos financiero of the campaña;

*close one econvenio voluntario cu the partidonan politico cu will participa at eleccion day 23 of september 2005;

*deal kehonan tocante the reglanan of conducta y the campaña electoral provided that general;

*sanciona violacionnan of the convenio voluntario by denuncia publico;

*publica one evaluacion of the proceso electoral y the relato financiero of campaña.

Members of Commission:


Dunador di trabao Ebby Arends – presidente di CBB
Lisette Malmberg – suplente


Sindicato: Jose Giron
Sixto Vrolijk – suplente


Enseñanza: Lydia Emerencia – vice presidente
Angelo Brete – suplente


Clero: Pader J. v/d Lee
Pader S. Tomasik – suplente


Cuerpo Policial: Jeannette Richardson
Jan v/d Straten – suplente



Secretario: Lorraine de Souza

Oh - and there's another last name in there that looks to be suspiciously similar to a last name Jossy recently let fly..................If I'm not mistaken. 
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« Reply #241 on: January 28, 2009, 11:32:48 AM »

Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS

 

SS ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.  Please direct me to my posts that offended you personally.
Thank you.

Janet

SS ... my request as been ignored.  How am I suppose to defend myself against "your" accusation that I made making "false and libelous statements" against you.

I am on a mission to explore all the happenings encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti's partipation in the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... a coverup that may have resulted in a lost opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to her family ... home to rest on American soil.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if my words gave the impression that I was attacking you personally.  That was not my intention.  The topic encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking is my focus.

Janet


Why the hell would you apologize? What kind of "personal injury" can one inflict on an internet nickname????????????????????????????
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« Reply #242 on: January 28, 2009, 11:41:53 AM »

is it a On topic day today ??

Let's make it about Natalee today.  Sounds good to me.

Blue Moon

The deception encompassing the deception of the Persistence undertaking is "all about Natalee".  If ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... Natalee Holloway's remains were placed in that cage/trap ... my heart breaks for her family.

Considering the domino effect of accountability dictates that justice for Natalee Holloway will never come out of an Aruban/Dutch courtrooom ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking ... accoring to Kyle Kingman's own words ... implies there will never be complete closure for her family.  However ... if it can be determined/exposed that Natalee Holloway's remains were placed in that cage/trap ... maybe a measure of closure would be afforded the family.

Sincerely, Janet

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« Reply #243 on: January 28, 2009, 11:44:39 AM »

Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS

 

SS ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.  Please direct me to my posts that offended you personally.
Thank you.

Janet

SS ... my request as been ignored.  How am I suppose to defend myself against "your" accusation that I made making "false and libelous statements" against you.

I am on a mission to explore all the happenings encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti's partipation in the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... a coverup that may have resulted in a lost opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to her family ... home to rest on American soil.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if my words gave the impression that I was attacking you personally.  That was not my intention.  The topic encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking is my focus.

Janet


Why the hell would you apologize? What kind of "personal injury" can one inflict on an internet nickname????????????????????????????

Good Mornnig Wreck.

The important words of my post was "IF".

Later, Janet
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« Reply #244 on: January 28, 2009, 11:48:12 AM »

Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS

 

SS ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.  Please direct me to my posts that offended you personally.
Thank you.

Janet

SS ... my request as been ignored.  How am I suppose to defend myself against "your" accusation that I made making "false and libelous statements" against you.

I am on a mission to explore all the happenings encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti's partipation in the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... a coverup that may have resulted in a lost opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to her family ... home to rest on American soil.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if my words gave the impression that I was attacking you personally.  That was not my intention.  The topic encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking is my focus.

Janet


Why the hell would you apologize? What kind of "personal injury" can one inflict on an internet nickname????????????????????????????

Good Mornnig Wreck.

The important words of my post was "IF".

Later, Janet
So noted. My main intent was to emphasize my second point. (I'm not saying you did ANYTHING wrong)
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« Reply #245 on: January 28, 2009, 11:48:33 AM »

Kermit and Janet

Your statements about me are untrue.  You have made accusations to maliciously cause defamation of my character.  This will serve as notice to cease and desist from making false and libelous statements that cause personal injury to me.

SS

 

SS ... I do not have a clue what you are talking about.  Please direct me to my posts that offended you personally.
Thank you.

Janet

SS ... my request as been ignored.  How am I suppose to defend myself against "your" accusation that I made making "false and libelous statements" against you.

I am on a mission to explore all the happenings encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti's partipation in the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... a coverup that may have resulted in a lost opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to her family ... home to rest on American soil.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if my words gave the impression that I was attacking you personally.  That was not my intention.  The topic encompassing ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking is my focus.

Janet


Why the hell would you apologize? What kind of "personal injury" can one inflict on an internet nickname????????????????????????????

I agree, Wreck!
It hurt my heart to see Janet apologizing.
I think everybody here was fairly kind, considering all the
accusations that SS was hurling.
Are Monkeys just suppose to sit and take it without any
response?   I don't think so!
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« Reply #246 on: January 28, 2009, 11:51:15 AM »

Here is what looks to have been a direct tie between Jeannette Richardson and Jan vd Straten.

And note the date Jan was still a member of this committe - WELL after he was supposed to be off the island and in Bonaire.

This appears to be a supporting connection between those two and the MEP party......

Also another interesting last name seems to have popped up on this committee as well.....



http://www.arubachamber.com/ComisionBonBoluntad.htm

COMISION BON BOLUNTAD ta un initiativa di gremionan comercial y sindical - den cuadro di nan responsabilidad civico - pa duna aporte na e proceso electoral y e sistema democratico arubano. E comision tabata activo durante e eleccionnan pa miembro di Parlamento na aña 1994, 1997 y 2001. Na april 2005 e comision a worde re-activa en conexión cu proximo eleccion, oficialmente stipula pa dia 23 di september 2005. E comision ta consisti di siete miembro y ta traha a base voluntario. Na final lo tene un evaluacion di e campaña electoral 2005.

aim of the comision:

*for give one contribucion at one campaña electoral clean, transparente y of level halto;

*garantiza oportunidad equal for cada faction politico;

*evita actonan of violencia, destruccion or cu is stroba faction politico of
funciona.

tarea of the comision:

* stipula reglanan of conducta for her period of campaña;

* monitor the campaña electoral y colecta datos financiero of the campaña;

*close one econvenio voluntario cu the partidonan politico cu will participa at eleccion day 23 of september 2005;

*deal kehonan tocante the reglanan of conducta y the campaña electoral provided that general;

*sanciona violacionnan of the convenio voluntario by denuncia publico;

*publica one evaluacion of the proceso electoral y the relato financiero of campaña.

Members of Commission:


Dunador di trabao Ebby Arends – presidente di CBB
Lisette Malmberg – suplente


Sindicato: Jose Giron
Sixto Vrolijk – suplente


Enseñanza: Lydia Emerencia – vice presidente
Angelo Brete – suplente


Clero: Pader J. v/d Lee
Pader S. Tomasik – suplente


Cuerpo Policial: Jeannette Richardson
Jan v/d Straten – suplente



Secretario: Lorraine de Souza

Oh - and there's another last name in there that looks to be suspiciously similar to a last name Jossy recently let fly..................If I'm not mistaken. 

Good Morning Monkey's!I'm starting to get the feeling Caps is friendly with many in ALE.Not just Clyde Burke.If this is true.How unfortunate!Headed to the store.Be back shortly!

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« Reply #247 on: January 28, 2009, 11:51:35 AM »

is it a On topic day today ??

Let's make it about Natalee today.  Sounds good to me.

Blue Moon

The deception encompassing the deception of the Persistence undertaking is "all about Natalee".  If ... according to Kyle Kingman's own words ... Natalee Holloway's remains were placed in that cage/trap ... my heart breaks for her family.

Considering the domino effect of accountability dictates that justice for Natalee Holloway will never come out of an Aruban/Dutch courtrooom ... the deception of the Persistence undertaking ... accoring to Kyle Kingman's own words ... implies there will never be complete closure for her family.  However ... if it can be determined/exposed that Natalee Holloway's remains were placed in that cage/trap ... maybe a measure of closure would be afforded the family.

Sincerely, Janet



Oh Janet. Please don't take my statement wrong about making this about Natalee.  I meant we keep getting interrupted so much lately and offtrack when we do discuss Natalee and the Persistence with all this WA WA crap about I, I, You, WE and we just don't hear about Natalee, Beth or Dave from the CnG gang. 

I believe whole heartedly that something very very bad occured with that cage and the remains (whoever those remains belong to).

Shame on you for hurting someone's reputation.  Don't you know better than hurt an internet "Name" that way? 
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« Reply #248 on: January 28, 2009, 11:52:43 AM »

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« Reply #249 on: January 28, 2009, 12:17:51 PM »

The connections in Aruba still continue to amaze me.  I didn't realize Dolphi Richardson's wife also worked for ALE. 

As for the Persistence, given the things posted by OE/Kyle, wouldn't it be a very simple matter to state that he was mistaken or that he stands by his posts?  End of problem?

I don't understand why some want this to be ignored.  We didn't start it, Kyle did with his accusations of what happened and who caused it.

And there still has been no arrests of anybody at all, at least not reported.

If people are just stating a theory, it should be expressed as such and not stated as a hard, concrete fact.

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« Reply #250 on: January 28, 2009, 12:24:28 PM »

The connections in Aruba still continue to amaze me.  I didn't realize Dolphi Richardson's wife also worked for ALE. 

As for the Persistence, given the things posted by OE/Kyle, wouldn't it be a very simple matter to state that he was mistaken or that he stands by his posts?  End of problem?

I don't understand why some want this to be ignored.  We didn't start it, Kyle did with his accusations of what happened and who caused it.

And there still has been no arrests of anybody at all, at least not reported.

If people are just stating a theory, it should be expressed as such and not stated as a hard, concrete fact.

IMHOO

Agreed Anna.So how friendly were the Richardson's with Sarah Mansur(Van Der Startten's secretary and her husband?Does anyone specifically know whom that is?TIA
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« Reply #251 on: January 28, 2009, 12:26:05 PM »

I don't even know what is on topic any more or where we are with the search for justice for Natalee.

So what actually is happening now that we know about?

1.  Rob said TJ Ward gave the tapes to Greta that are about Paulus and some Colombians.  Whatever happened with that?

2.  Mos says he does not have the polygraph results and refused to meet with Tim Miller earlier.

3.  JQK went to Aruba early this month.  We don't know why.

4.  Mos says the pond witness is not credible.  Does this mean he is not going to do anything at all with that information?

5.  We have learned that only ALE had access to the contents of the fish trap and they are saying nothing there to see, move along, move along.

6.  Kalpoe trial seems to progress at a snail's pace with little to nothing actually happening in that regard.  Motions, continuations, etc. only.  Joran is to be believed when he says they know nothing and have nothing to do with Natalee and yet he is not to be believed in any other regard.

Several people have indicated something is happening behind the scenes.  What could it be and when will it come to light?

Is this about it?

Can anyone add something I missed? 

I would like to hear the tapes Greta has but so far she has not even mentioned them I don't believe.
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« Reply #252 on: January 28, 2009, 12:28:52 PM »

I don't even know what is on topic any more or where we are with the search for justice for Natalee.

So what actually is happening now that we know about?

1.  Rob said TJ Ward gave the tapes to Greta that are about Paulus and some Colombians.  Whatever happened with that?

2.  Mos says he does not have the polygraph results and refused to meet with Tim Miller earlier.

3.  JQK went to Aruba early this month.  We don't know why.

4.  Mos says the pond witness is not credible.  Does this mean he is not going to do anything at all with that information?

5.  We have learned that only ALE had access to the contents of the fish trap and they are saying nothing there to see, move along, move along.

6.  Kalpoe trial seems to progress at a snail's pace with little to nothing actually happening in that regard.  Motions, continuations, etc. only.  Joran is to be believed when he says they know nothing and have nothing to do with Natalee and yet he is not to be believed in any other regard.

Several people have indicated something is happening behind the scenes.  What could it be and when will it come to light?

Is this about it?

Can anyone add something I missed? 

I would like to hear the tapes Greta has but so far she has not even mentioned them I don't believe.
That pretty much sums it up for me!
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« Reply #253 on: January 28, 2009, 12:32:16 PM »

I don't even know what is on topic any more or where we are with the search for justice for Natalee.

So what actually is happening now that we know about?

1.  Rob said TJ Ward gave the tapes to Greta that are about Paulus and some Colombians.  Whatever happened with that?

2.  Mos says he does not have the polygraph results and refused to meet with Tim Miller earlier.

3.  JQK went to Aruba early this month.  We don't know why.

4.  Mos says the pond witness is not credible.  Does this mean he is not going to do anything at all with that information?

5.  We have learned that only ALE had access to the contents of the fish trap and they are saying nothing there to see, move along, move along.

6.  Kalpoe trial seems to progress at a snail's pace with little to nothing actually happening in that regard.  Motions, continuations, etc. only.  Joran is to be believed when he says they know nothing and have nothing to do with Natalee and yet he is not to be believed in any other regard.

Several people have indicated something is happening behind the scenes.  What could it be and when will it come to light?

Is this about it?

Can anyone add something I missed? 

I would like to hear the tapes Greta has but so far she has not even mentioned them I don't believe.

Greta doing the whole Joran interview with no real follow-up is interesting.Are they waiting for something in particular?I'm waiting to hopefully hear those Tj Ward tapes.Timing is everything though.keeping Natalee in the media spotlight this long is a blessing!
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« Reply #254 on: January 28, 2009, 12:38:53 PM »

I don't even know what is on topic any more or where we are with the search for justice for Natalee.

So what actually is happening now that we know about?

1.  Rob said TJ Ward gave the tapes to Greta that are about Paulus and some Colombians.  Whatever happened with that?

2.  Mos says he does not have the polygraph results and refused to meet with Tim Miller earlier.

3.  JQK went to Aruba early this month.  We don't know why.

4.  Mos says the pond witness is not credible.  Does this mean he is not going to do anything at all with that information?

5.  We have learned that only ALE had access to the contents of the fish trap and they are saying nothing there to see, move along, move along.

6.  Kalpoe trial seems to progress at a snail's pace with little to nothing actually happening in that regard.  Motions, continuations, etc. only.  Joran is to be believed when he says they know nothing and have nothing to do with Natalee and yet he is not to be believed in any other regard.

Several people have indicated something is happening behind the scenes.  What could it be and when will it come to light?

Is this about it?

Can anyone add something I missed? 

I would like to hear the tapes Greta has but so far she has not even mentioned them I don't believe.

You forgot a bunch of monkeys and former monkeys got their panties in a wad, because we exposed the fact that they don't know any more than we do.
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« Reply #255 on: January 28, 2009, 12:41:24 PM »

I don't even know what is on topic any more or where we are with the search for justice for Natalee.

So what actually is happening now that we know about?

1.  Rob said TJ Ward gave the tapes to Greta that are about Paulus and some Colombians.  Whatever happened with that?

2.  Mos says he does not have the polygraph results and refused to meet with Tim Miller earlier.

3.  JQK went to Aruba early this month.  We don't know why.

4.  Mos says the pond witness is not credible.  Does this mean he is not going to do anything at all with that information?

5.  We have learned that only ALE had access to the contents of the fish trap and they are saying nothing there to see, move along, move along.

6.  Kalpoe trial seems to progress at a snail's pace with little to nothing actually happening in that regard.  Motions, continuations, etc. only.  Joran is to be believed when he says they know nothing and have nothing to do with Natalee and yet he is not to be believed in any other regard.

Several people have indicated something is happening behind the scenes.  What could it be and when will it come to light?

Is this about it?

Can anyone add something I missed? 

I would like to hear the tapes Greta has but so far she has not even mentioned them I don't believe.

You forgot a bunch of monkeys and former monkeys got their panties in a wad, because we exposed the fact that they don't know any more than we do.

Ree is right Anna.
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« Reply #256 on: January 28, 2009, 12:42:53 PM »

 

Yes, Ree, that too!


I also forgot the movie for Lifetime that will be coming out in just a few months.

This will put Natalee back in the media for sure.

The choices of who is to play the parts seemed exceptionally good to me.

So that's a biggie, too.

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« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2009, 01:03:45 PM »



Yes, Ree, that too!


I also forgot the movie for Lifetime that will be coming out in just a few months.

This will put Natalee back in the media for sure.

The choices of who is to play the parts seemed exceptionally good to me.

So that's a biggie, too.

.

Thanks for the reminder about the movie, Anna.  That is supposed to be in April, sometime. 
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« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2009, 01:05:43 PM »



Yes, Ree, that too!


I also forgot the movie for Lifetime that will be coming out in just a few months.

This will put Natalee back in the media for sure.

The choices of who is to play the parts seemed exceptionally good to me.

So that's a biggie, too.

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Thanks for the reminder about the movie, Anna.  That is supposed to be in April, sometime. 

2NJ - can you help me post a picture?  I emailed it to klaas, but I think my timing was bad.

I have not a clue how to do it - but I do have a link 
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« Reply #259 on: January 28, 2009, 01:16:27 PM »

CONTACT LIJST DIVISIE STAF: (xxx) xxx-xxx 
DIVISION NAME TEL OR EXT  FAX
Hoofd Staf Korpschef  Jeannette Richardson   ext:
Bureau Interne Zaken en Onderzoeken   
Algemeen Beleidsmedewerker  Errol Zebeda  ext:
Juridisch Beleidsmedewerker  Arlene Franken-Thode  ext:
PR en Voorlichting  Edwin Comenencia  ext
Interpol Johnny Tromp  


http://www.kparuba.com/contacts.html
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