Natalee Case Discussion #797 1/30/09 - 2/1/09

[Keepthefaith]

REE

"VMS, I speak for only myself, but I personally don't care what Kermit's occupation is.  IMO the emails she posted speak for themselves.  I have no problem with any of the emails posted, but I do take issue with the crap SS posted yesterday."

KERMIT

"Just so everyone here knows I am well aware of them giving that information over to Aruba too."   


KEEPTHEFAITH
I thought this was important to bring over in case you don't read the previous thread!

BUMP

[Anna]

Just kidding!


But yes, the attacks will only make monkeys stronger and more united.
There is no way this forum is going to go away.  They CAN'T destroy it because we are stronger than they are.

And the Caylee Thread is massive and likely more than enough to justify keeping the forum going.

So we will just stay the course and hold fact in our quest for justice for Natalee.

[texasmom]

Thanks KTF, Hotping and billb.  I agree with your comments too.  

And Anna deserves an answer to her question.  I can say that I'd heard the lie before (among many) and it didn't come from Hotshot or Lala's.  I don't know if Lala's told the person that told me or not.  But I'm sure Hotshot does.  She brought it over here, she needs to answer the question.

[Keepthefaith]

If ... as Lou contends .. Jug Twitty continues to upholds the Persistence undertaking ... then I do not believe for one minute that Natalee's stepfather has received a full compilation of Kyle Kingsman's own words ... Kyle Kingsman's own words that expose the betrayal of John Silvetti ... the betrayal that implies the opportunity to bring his stepdaughter home to rest on American soil may have been lost forever.

Maybe the timing is right for Jug Twitty to be made aware.

Janet

+++++

'Scarborough Country' for July 14
updated 8:45 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 15, 2005

JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she's alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we'll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/


'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7:47 a.m. PT, Wed., July. 6, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee.  Natalee deserves to return to her country.  She deserves it, and everyone knows it, Martin, every single person.  Every single person knows that.  They know it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/

BUMP

[Anna]

I find it very telling that they stayed for 4 months and the only human dive was the one done on the cage, which Silvetti & Trehan claim contained nothing.

I have not heard of any action by Beth or Dave (or Jug) to 'fund' the dives for the remaining 100+ 'viable' targets.

I also find that odd.

And I asked this before - but I'll ask again -- how EXACTLY did CAPS know where to dive to find the cage????

In other words -- who gave him the coordinates of the location?? Or was he swimming around in 90' of ocean water and stumbled upon it??

Inquiring minds want to know.

CapsLockWizard
"Another thing , I went to dive a week a go to the same location, and the Cage is still there. If the cage was evidance in a murder case, why is it still in the water."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564838#msg564838

Of course, this is same post in which Caps said: "on the opening a business in Aruba... no way true. Need an Arubian Partner and the Business law for AVV or ofshore business registered in Aruba is not benefecial." 

And didn't I just see information and links posted in the last day or two that proved that to be untrue?  Is it possible he doesn't dive at all and was just making it up?  Of course, it's possible...
 

BUMP

Caps make something up?  You mean like the initials are reversed on people arrested?  All Dave has to do is fly down and claim the body?  DIfferent theory every day?

Nnaaaawwwwwwwww. . . . .no way.

 

What part didn't he make up?


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[hotping]

Just kidding!


But yes, the attacks will only make monkeys stronger and more united.
There is no way this forum is going to go away.  They CAN'T destroy it because we are stronger than they are.

And the Caylee Thread is massive and likely more than enough to justify keeping the forum going.

So we will just stay the course and hold fact in our quest for justice for Natalee.

I Agree Anna...And I Also Agree that Hotsit (Not) needs to answer Your question but She won't cause She's CS! 

[Keepthefaith]

Well.It looks like the CnG crowd left from Lurking!went from about 20 to 8 in about 3 minutes....JMOO

[hotping]

Well.It looks like the CnG crowd left from Lurking!went from about 20 to 8 in about 3 minutes....JMOO

Yep! 

[Anna]

Thanks KTF, Hotping and billb.  I agree with your comments too.  

And Anna deserves an answer to her question.  I can say that I'd heard the lie before (among many) and it didn't come from Hotshot or Lala's.  I don't know if Lala's told the person that told me or not.  But I'm sure Hotshot does.  She brought it over here, she needs to answer the question.

Well, Lala's and I share the same FBI Offices and that is something I can easily verify one way or the other.

But something tells me that Lala's is not the source for that.  I have been shocked at some people before but I don't think she would lie that way.

I know others whom I think would.

All Hotshot has to do is type yes or no.  I doubt anybody is going to die if she does that.  Maybe some of the time devoted to annoying phone calls could be used to respond to her own viciousness.

[hotping]

Well...I've had all of the excitement that I can stand for one day...

Good Night All!

Justice For Natalee!

I Stand with The Girl!

[Keepthefaith]

Well...I've had all of the excitement that I can stand for one day...

Good Night All!

Justice For Natalee!

I Stand with The Girl!

GoodNight HotPing!God Bless you!

[texasmom]

Well...I've had all of the excitement that I can stand for one day...

Good Night All!

Justice For Natalee!

I Stand with The Girl!

Goodnight Hotping!  

[Anna]

Once before the same people made up lies about me trying to get somebody fired.  This is something else I have never done in my life and don't have the inclination nor energy.

And I think it was FRANK of all people.  I like FRANK and would never have even thought of doing such a thing!  Not even if I didn't like him which I do.  I have no idea and don't want to know or care even where he works.

They will just make up some lie they think will cause others not to like you and spread it about in their little hidey holes.

You know how that works.  But they do it because they don't like what a person posts or don't agree with the content of posts which is a despicable thing to do.

I much prefer to just state what I think and why and end of it.

Oh, and BTW, I did once try to discuss a difference of opinion with one of those and all I got was PM's filled with the F bomb and calling me obscenities.  So there is no chance for any rational exchange of ideas.

[billb's daughter]

I find it very telling that they stayed for 4 months and the only human dive was the one done on the cage, which Silvetti & Trehan claim contained nothing.

I have not heard of any action by Beth or Dave (or Jug) to 'fund' the dives for the remaining 100+ 'viable' targets.

I also find that odd.

And I asked this before - but I'll ask again -- how EXACTLY did CAPS know where to dive to find the cage????

In other words -- who gave him the coordinates of the location?? Or was he swimming around in 90' of ocean water and stumbled upon it??

Inquiring minds want to know.

CapsLockWizard
"Another thing , I went to dive a week a go to the same location, and the Cage is still there. If the cage was evidance in a murder case, why is it still in the water."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564838#msg564838

Of course, this is same post in which Caps said: "on the opening a business in Aruba... no way true. Need an Arubian Partner and the Business law for AVV or ofshore business registered in Aruba is not benefecial." 

And didn't I just see information and links posted in the last day or two that proved that to be untrue?  Is it possible he doesn't dive at all and was just making it up?  Of course, it's possible...
 

BUMP

Caps make something up?  You mean like the initials are reversed on people arrested?  All Dave has to do is fly down and claim the body?  DIfferent theory every day?

Nnaaaawwwwwwwww. . . . .no way.

 

What part didn't he make up?


.

You know..I wanted to believe that CAPS had answers to Natalee's faith orchestrated by the elders/pimps that fateful night, and that Kermit had the "what became of her final resting place:..
Based on my current view..Caps was all bs....the C&G grp are all bs..Kermit/Freebirds are right on the money...persistence/louis/john/tim the diver/kyle are ALL American traitors...
The pimps/elders decided Natalee's fate..PREMEDITATED MURDER...may they all rot in HELL...
I HATE THEM ALL...

[wreck]

I find it very telling that they stayed for 4 months and the only human dive was the one done on the cage, which Silvetti & Trehan claim contained nothing.

I have not heard of any action by Beth or Dave (or Jug) to 'fund' the dives for the remaining 100+ 'viable' targets.

I also find that odd.

And I asked this before - but I'll ask again -- how EXACTLY did CAPS know where to dive to find the cage????

In other words -- who gave him the coordinates of the location?? Or was he swimming around in 90' of ocean water and stumbled upon it??

Inquiring minds want to know.

CapsLockWizard
"Another thing , I went to dive a week a go to the same location, and the Cage is still there. If the cage was evidance in a murder case, why is it still in the water."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564838#msg564838

Of course, this is same post in which Caps said: "on the opening a business in Aruba... no way true. Need an Arubian Partner and the Business law for AVV or ofshore business registered in Aruba is not benefecial." 

And didn't I just see information and links posted in the last day or two that proved that to be untrue?  Is it possible he doesn't dive at all and was just making it up?  Of course, it's possible...
 

BUMP

Caps make something up?  You mean like the initials are reversed on people arrested?  All Dave has to do is fly down and claim the body?  DIfferent theory every day?

Nnaaaawwwwwwwww. . . . .no way.

 

What part didn't he make up?


.

You know..I wanted to believe that CAPS had answers to Natalee's faith orchestrated by the elders/pimps that fateful night, and that Kermit had the "what became of her final resting place:..
Based on my current view..Caps was all bs....the C&G grp are all bs..Kermit/Freebirds are right on the money...persistence/louis/john/tim the diver/kyle are ALL American traitors...
The pimps/elders decided Natalee's fate..PREMEDITATED MURDER...may they all rot in HELL...
I HATE THEM ALL...

I promised I would come back and "mop up" ------ no need, you did fine monkeys!!  All they have done is re-energized us!!!

[Keepthefaith]

Once before the same people made up lies about me trying to get somebody fired.  This is something else I have never done in my life and don't have the inclination nor energy.

And I think it was FRANK of all people.  I like FRANK and would never have even thought of doing such a thing!  Not even if I didn't like him which I do.  I have no idea and don't want to know or care even where he works.

They will just make up some lie they think will cause others not to like you and spread it about in their little hidey holes.

You know how that works.  But they do it because they don't like what a person posts or don't agree with the content of posts which is a despicable thing to do.

I much prefer to just state what I think and why and end of it.

Oh, and BTW, I did once try to discuss a difference of opinion with one of those and all I got was PM's filled with the F bomb and calling me obscenities.  So there is no chance for any rational exchange of ideas.

As i sit here and contemplate that the Holloway's have had to deal with the passing of their daughter and trying to sift throught the bullsh_t that is Aruba and they also have to deal with many who've crossed boundaries no normal person would cross.If you have information regarding anything Natalee Holloway it should go to the FBI,and or their attorney's.You should never contact the family.If you have.How unfeeling,uncaring,and downright rude you are.I have NO respect whatsoever for those that continue to perpetuate the distraction on this forum concerning the JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.....

[Anna]

I would do anything to help Beth, anything humanly possible.  I want justice for her for her child soooooo badly it hurts.

But it stops short of doing nonsensical things that don't really help at all and are just a burden to an already tortured family.  It is better to only offer my prayers and support than to do anything that would make matters worse.  Sometimes that is all we can do.

Doing things just to be doing them and to insert yourself into this for the drama or "glory" as Hotshot said today is just plain wrong.

And if people are going to lie, it might be a bit smarter not to lie about somebody who lives as close to me as Lala's does because we might just figure it out.  Alabama is a small place in population and everybody knows somebody who knows somebody, etc.

Right now my only hope is the tapes Greta has have enough to tie Paulus to the disposal and he brings van der Straten down with him.  Since the Persistence gave the contents of the trap totally to ALE, I guess that hope is lost forever.

[Keepthefaith]

It defy's logic what these poster's are doing.These people are SICK,SICK,SICK.

[Anna]

I promised I would come back and "mop up" ------ no need, you did fine monkeys!!  All they have done is re-energized us!!!

Well, you should have been here Wreck.  It was more of the same old same old so you really didn't miss anything.

But you are correct.  Boundaries have been crossed and I personally am now angry. 

Energized is one way to look at it in a positive light.

We will come out of this more united in our determination to have justice for Natalee.

It's about HER and not these drama queens who try to satisfy some need or other in themselves by their actions.

[Keepthefaith]

GoodNight to all Monkey's...........

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                           GOD BLESS BETH,DAVE,JUG,AND ROBIN