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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 - 2/5/09 (Read 183045 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 -
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Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
This Discussion this morning brought this to mind..Could this be why She fit in the trap...Just a Thought...
Monkeys, I tried to go to sleep, because i waana get up tomorrow and see what we hear. Something kept me awake though. It was a post on the internet From March 2006. I know we discussed it here long ago, and I also brought it back here to the forum On December 9th. But now I really DO believe that someone who knew what happened was trying to tell us . I wonder if this is what we will hear tommorow? I give you the post again....Left on a blog called Joranvandersloot.com, in the comments........................
8:41 pm anonymous said...
It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence.[b/] If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.
Hotping, if they were trying to get her into a small trap that would fit Koen's boat, why is Kyle saying she is in a large commercial trap that is probably 7' and 700 pounds?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 -
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Monkey Mia...thank you for bringing the material regarding underwater photography (which I don't understand...lol) and the pictures of the crabbing operations and really nice shots of the crab pots. If you scroll down to the section called "The Crabbing", you see a man going in to the trap to re-bait it...."Baiting the Crabpot"....my question....are these crabpots wide open like?
It seems it would be easy to accomodate a person in the whole trap.
http://www.fishex.com/galleries/king-crab-fishing/photo-gallery.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 -
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Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
This Discussion this morning brought this to mind..Could this be why She fit in the trap...Just a Thought...
Monkeys, I tried to go to sleep, because i waana get up tomorrow and see what we hear. Something kept me awake though. It was a post on the internet From March 2006. I know we discussed it here long ago, and I also brought it back here to the forum On December 9th. But now I really DO believe that someone who knew what happened was trying to tell us . I wonder if this is what we will hear tommorow? I give you the post again....Left on a blog called Joranvandersloot.com, in the comments........................
8:41 pm anonymous said...
It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence.[b/] If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.
Thanks Hotping, I had forgotten about this post. Always made me wonder. There were alot of interresting posts on that blog.
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Quote from: Mere on February 02, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
Monkey Mia...thank you for bringing the material regarding underwater photography (which I don't understand...lol) and the pictures of the crabbing operations and really nice shots of the crab pots. If you scroll down to the section called "The Crabbing", you see a man going in to the trap to re-bait it...."Baiting the Crabpot"....my question....are these crabpots wide open like?
It seems it would be easy to accomodate a person in the whole trap.
http://www.fishex.com/galleries/king-crab-fishing/photo-gallery.html
Yes Mere I agree. In a large commercial trap like the ones the divers are next to in the screenshot, a body has plenty of room. But the remains that Kyle has supperimposed NAH's image over only cover one diagonal half of one grid. I am proposing that that area is not big enough for what Kyle wants to put in there.
Where the crabman is entering the cage to bait the trap is the bottom that they open to release the catch.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 -
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Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
This Discussion this morning brought this to mind..Could this be why She fit in the trap...Just a Thought...
Monkeys, I tried to go to sleep, because i waana get up tomorrow and see what we hear. Something kept me awake though. It was a post on the internet From March 2006. I know we discussed it here long ago, and I also brought it back here to the forum On December 9th. But now I really DO believe that someone who knew what happened was trying to tell us . I wonder if this is what we will hear tommorow? I give you the post again....Left on a blog called Joranvandersloot.com, in the comments........................
8:41 pm anonymous said...
It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence.[b/] If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.
Hotping, if they were trying to get her into a small trap that would fit Koen's boat, why is Kyle saying she is in a large commercial trap that is probably 7' and 700 pounds?
I believe that Natalee was moved around several times...I think that it is possible that Her skeleton remains were put in the larger trap at some time...maybe years after She died..She could have possibly been in the smaller one then moved out further into deeper water and placed in the larger one... I believe that there is a remark by Paulus where He says I had no idea that the ocean could be searched like that meaning by ROV..Anybody else remember this comment by Paulus?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #798 2/1/09 -
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Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: Mere on February 02, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
Monkey Mia...thank you for bringing the material regarding underwater photography (which I don't understand...lol) and the pictures of the crabbing operations and really nice shots of the crab pots. If you scroll down to the section called "The Crabbing", you see a man going in to the trap to re-bait it...."Baiting the Crabpot"....my question....are these crabpots wide open like?
It seems it would be easy to accomodate a person in the whole trap.
http://www.fishex.com/galleries/king-crab-fishing/photo-gallery.html
Yes Mere I agree. In a large commercial trap like the ones the divers are next to in the screenshot, a body has plenty of room. But the remains that Kyle has supperimposed NAH's image over only cover one diagonal half of one grid. I am proposing that that area is not big enough for what Kyle wants to put in there.
Where the crabman is entering the cage to bait the trap is the bottom that they open to release the catch.
If this makes sense....a body that is first put into a cage would require a much larger space....the remains after a few years would not require that space and could have shifted into a much smaller space....perhaps the size that is the small area shown in the photograph.
The bags, however, do not seem to be at all normal.
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Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
This Discussion this morning brought this to mind..Could this be why She fit in the trap...Just a Thought...
Monkeys, I tried to go to sleep, because i waana get up tomorrow and see what we hear. Something kept me awake though. It was a post on the internet From March 2006. I know we discussed it here long ago, and I also brought it back here to the forum On December 9th. But now I really DO believe that someone who knew what happened was trying to tell us . I wonder if this is what we will hear tommorow? I give you the post again....Left on a blog called Joranvandersloot.com, in the comments........................
8:41 pm anonymous said...
It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence.[b/] If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.
Hotping, if they were trying to get her into a small trap that would fit Koen's boat, why is Kyle saying she is in a large commercial trap that is probably 7' and 700 pounds?
I believe that Natalee was moved around several times...I think that it is possible that Her skeleton remains were put in the larger trap at some time...maybe years after She died..She could have possibly been in the smaller one then moved out further into deeper water and placed in the larger one... I believe that there is a remark by Paulus where He says I had no idea that the ocean could be searched like that meaning by ROV..Anybody else remember this comment by Paulus?
What condition and what position would those skeletal remains be in?
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Quote from: Mere on February 02, 2009, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: Mere on February 02, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
Monkey Mia...thank you for bringing the material regarding underwater photography (which I don't understand...lol) and the pictures of the crabbing operations and really nice shots of the crab pots. If you scroll down to the section called "The Crabbing", you see a man going in to the trap to re-bait it...."Baiting the Crabpot"....my question....are these crabpots wide open like?
It seems it would be easy to accomodate a person in the whole trap.
http://www.fishex.com/galleries/king-crab-fishing/photo-gallery.html
Yes Mere I agree. In a large commercial trap like the ones the divers are next to in the screenshot, a body has plenty of room. But the remains that Kyle has supperimposed NAH's image over only cover one diagonal half of one grid. I am proposing that that area is not big enough for what Kyle wants to put in there.
Where the crabman is entering the cage to bait the trap is the bottom that they open to release the catch.
If this makes sense....a body that is first put into a cage would require a much larger space....the remains after a few years would not require that space and could have shifted into a much smaller space....perhaps the size that is the small area shown in the photograph.
The bags, however, do not seem to be at all normal.
That is why we would have to know what the currents are in that area. There are just too many factors to consider and get answers for before saying it is NAH. Was the body wrapped was it in a bag? If in the open, what kept it all confined? Why didn't things get scattered? I have a million questions.
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I have enjoyed the discussion. Thank you everyone. Now I need to get some things done.
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I found a blog that discusses ROV photography. It's about 1/3 down, titled VideoRay Underwater Video ROV. It describes a small ROV and there is a video showing it in action. Since Monkey Mia posted the photography site & mentioned lighting, I wanted to note the lights on the mini-ROV if you watch the video:
http://www.navagear.com/category/photography/
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Isn't that a fish trap and not a crab trap?
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Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:20:28 AM
Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: Monkey Mia on February 02, 2009, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
This Discussion this morning brought this to mind..Could this be why She fit in the trap...Just a Thought...
Monkeys, I tried to go to sleep, because i waana get up tomorrow and see what we hear. Something kept me awake though. It was a post on the internet From March 2006. I know we discussed it here long ago, and I also brought it back here to the forum On December 9th. But now I really DO believe that someone who knew what happened was trying to tell us . I wonder if this is what we will hear tommorow? I give you the post again....Left on a blog called Joranvandersloot.com, in the comments........................
8:41 pm anonymous said...
It was high tide and sea water covering the beach slope, Koen's boat stayed out at a distance in the water and he didn't want the boat got stuck in the beach sand dunes. Joran didn't want his shoes get wet and he took them off. He and Deepak together carried Natalee's body and walking through the water towards Koen's boat where Koen kept the boat's motor running and positioning, it was high tide and high wind, the sea waves were strong and rough. For some unknown reasons Joran got some blood into his shoes when the suspects were trying to fit Natalee's body into the
crap cage. They might have to do some cuttings of the body in order to get all the body parts into the cage. The cage was not a coffin shape, it was square in shape, not long enough to fit a body of 5'4. So Joran put his bloody shoes into the square crab cage as well. Together the suspects dropped cage to the deepsea bottom and got rid of the forensic evidence.[b/] If Tim Miller can locate the crab cage, Joran's shoes are there. Joran is the murderer.
Hotping, if they were trying to get her into a small trap that would fit Koen's boat, why is Kyle saying she is in a large commercial trap that is probably 7' and 700 pounds?
I believe that Natalee was moved around several times...I think that it is possible that Her skeleton remains were put in the larger trap at some time...maybe years after She died..She could have possibly been in the smaller one then moved out further into deeper water and placed in the larger one... I believe that there is a remark by Paulus where He says I had no idea that the ocean could be searched like that meaning by ROV..Anybody else remember this comment by Paulus?
What condition and what position would those skeletal remains be in?
It seems to Me that the remains being underwater would definitely move around and would not be in the same position as when first put there...as far as condition of the remains I don't know...
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 02, 2009, 02:07:58 AM
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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
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I'm sorry, Janet
Kyle:
I will soon propose a meeting with Beth and other family members, myself,
Tim Trahan
, Peter DeVries, and whomever else necessary to go over the ROV video, contents, and case status. I would like a couple people very familiar with the case documents also present to help connect dots during the meeting. I would prefer meeting towards the end of April or mid-May to allow adequate time for things to shake themselves out if is going to. If necessary, I have an ABC (20/20) and CBS (early show) film crew ready and willing to take part in such a meeting should it require press coverage. I've already had a meeting with ABC about this and they are "definitely interested" at the executive level. We met in mid-Feb about this already. The question becomes timing, who needs to be there, and whether or not it's covered by the press. I prefer not, but it may be useful. DeVries doesn't need to be there in my opinion but he's good for ratings and helps ABC be cooperative if needed.
<snip>
This quote is just amazing to me.
Kyle Kingman
....what on earth were you thinking when you typed these words? You are talking about showing a mother, who for the last 4 years has agonized over what happened to her daughter, previously unseen footage from an underwater search for her daughter's remains. Kyle, you are discussing all the media arrangements you have ready and the meetings you have already had with ABC behind her back.
Film crews? Really, Kyle?
You're talking about Beth Holloway! The film crews she could summon with a phone call could wipe the floor with yours. Or were you trying to make sure you weren't "cut out of the action", Kyle? Didn't you say your invoices were paid?
I just lost any illusion I might have had about this being a charitable endeavor.
And I have a really bad taste in my mouth.
EXACTLY!!!
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Magnolia
- do you have any photos?
I wish I did. It has been a funny sight.
The dog thinks we are playing a big game.
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 02, 2009, 11:30:07 AM
I found a blog that discusses ROV photography. It's about 1/3 down, titled VideoRay Underwater Video ROV. It describes a small ROV and there is a video showing it in action. Since Monkey Mia posted the photography site & mentioned lighting, I wanted to note the lights on the mini-ROV if you watch the video:
http://www.navagear.com/category/photography/
Nice video from the link above - thanks 2NJ
http://www.youtube.com/v/r5cc7mTNnS8&hl=en&fs=1
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#314 on: Today at 09:37:03 AM monkey mia
A 90' dive is a dive for advanced divers. Wetsuit is required and possibly decompression time. The amount of air you use depends on the individual diver but you have to consider the time to get down to the bottom, the amount of exertion, and the time to get back to the surface and any decompression time you need before you get to the surface. A prudent diver would take that all into consideration before making such a dive. We might assume drug dealers don't care about that though
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.300
This shows many reefs where scuba divers typically go 90 feet with no problem it is just part of the normal dive..... deep dives half down the page
http://www.mexicotravelnet.com/cozumel/scubadiving.htm
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Quote from: Magnolia on February 02, 2009, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: klaasend on February 02, 2009, 11:03:23 AM
Magnolia
- do you have any photos?
I wish I did. It has been a funny sight.
The dog thinks we are playing a big game.
That's what my dogs think everytime I try to do situps around them, LOL
Need to run to the store real quick, brb
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Reply #682 on: March 18, 2008, 09:28:45 AM
Approx. 7.5 x 7.5 x 2.5ft, and
200-300lbs
, hundreds of feet of rope complete with 4-point rigging.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2705.msg366260#msg366260
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As to Kyle photoshopping images to bring to Natalee's Freebirds - I keep one simple fact in mind.
Kyle knew there was a family member at our forum prior to him joining it.
I doubt that Kyle would have perpetuated the type of scam being alluded to right smack in the face of a member of Natalee's family.
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=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Pop Culture Main
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
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