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« Reply #1560 on: February 04, 2009, 12:32:32 AM »

All you ladies lookin at porn......your hubs and kids are going to have quite an, um, eye opener, when they go look at photo history.   
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« Reply #1561 on: February 04, 2009, 12:37:45 AM »

Okay, so I'm just going to be blunt here. I'm tiring myself out trying to wrap my brain around theories about KC's drug habits, who knew and didn't know that Caylee was dead before the public even knew she was missing, what the Anthonys' involvement may or may not have been, whether KC was involved in porn, where/why she chose the name ZFG, what the connection is to Jennifer Kesse and Nicole Ganguzza, if Kronk is on the up-and-up, whether George was really suicidal, if there really was a BlackJack phone, and so on and so forth . . . .and then I realized today that ALL . . . I .... REALLY .... WANT .... TO ....KNOW .....IS ......
WHOSE FINGERPRINTS ARE ON THE BAG AND THE DUCT TAPE; ARE THEY CASEY'S FINGERPRINTS AND NO ONE ELSE'S???

If they are, I will be satisfied and stop obsessing over this case. Because then I will know justice will be served because jurors cannot be blindsided by crazy defense strategy when the forensic evidence is rock-solid (okay, yes, they were in the OJ trial, but that's another story; KC is not OJ and no one is going to let her off for killing her baby).

I agree, except I'd still like to understand why? Maybe that's just my problem.


I need to know why, too.  I always have to know the why about things--esp. when it comes to someone killing a defenseless creature.

I do think the family is messed up.  But there's something else to bear here.  Its not a "simple" thing like that looney in TX who brutalized/killed Baby Grace.  And folks who think death might go back on table for Caylee's murderer should dream on.  Texas is a smoke 'em state, and this horribly cruel woman only got life...though I guess she might have turned on her husband and he may pay.  I don't know since I haven't followed that case.

Imho, alleged perp in Caylee's case had no impulse control and flew off the handle and took out her frustration on the weakest person in her midst.  People like that (in my experience) never take on someone their own size.  Perhaps being strung out on something reduced her inhibitions/exacerbated her pre-existing impulse control and anger issues.  Whatev.

All this to say I think the why Caylee died is vastly important.


WHY she died is less important than why there is such an attempted cover up of the death.

She died because KC was sick and tired of being burdened down by her. She was tired of covering up her lack of a job and she could not leave because of Caylee. She didn't want her, but she refused to let Cindy have her. That would be admitting defeat in her eyes and that was never acceptable in the life long power struggle with her mother.


I don't agree that learning why Caylee died is less important than what smacks of a coverup after the fact.  Her death is what matters.  Any coverup that may or may not have occurred is beside the point.  I think its human nature to cast around for bad actors when there a child is murdered and the alleged perp has yet to be brought to justice.

Anyone involved in a coverup will get theirs one way or another. 

Myself, I'm pretty much only focused on the alleged perp. 
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« Reply #1562 on: February 04, 2009, 12:38:44 AM »

Between Joy, porn pics and bananas (or lack thereof...lol) its been a crazy day.

So I'm going to go Dream a Little Dream now and will see you all in the mornin'!
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« Reply #1563 on: February 04, 2009, 12:40:54 AM »

Okay, so I'm just going to be blunt here. I'm tiring myself out trying to wrap my brain around theories about KC's drug habits, who knew and didn't know that Caylee was dead before the public even knew she was missing, what the Anthonys' involvement may or may not have been, whether KC was involved in porn, where/why she chose the name ZFG, what the connection is to Jennifer Kesse and Nicole Ganguzza, if Kronk is on the up-and-up, whether George was really suicidal, if there really was a BlackJack phone, and so on and so forth . . . .and then I realized today that ALL . . . I .... REALLY .... WANT .... TO ....KNOW .....IS ......
WHOSE FINGERPRINTS ARE ON THE BAG AND THE DUCT TAPE; ARE THEY CASEY'S FINGERPRINTS AND NO ONE ELSE'S???

If they are, I will be satisfied and stop obsessing over this case. Because then I will know justice will be served because jurors cannot be blindsided by crazy defense strategy when the forensic evidence is rock-solid (okay, yes, they were in the OJ trial, but that's another story; KC is not OJ and no one is going to let her off for killing her baby).

I agree, except I'd still like to understand why? Maybe that's just my problem.


I need to know why, too.  I always have to know the why about things--esp. when it comes to someone killing a defenseless creature.

I do think the family is messed up.  But there's something else to bear here.  Its not a "simple" thing like that looney in TX who brutalized/killed Baby Grace.  And folks who think death might go back on table for Caylee's murderer should dream on.  Texas is a smoke 'em state, and this horribly cruel woman only got life...though I guess she might have turned on her husband and he may pay.  I don't know since I haven't followed that case.

Imho, alleged perp in Caylee's case had no impulse control and flew off the handle and took out her frustration on the weakest person in her midst.  People like that (in my experience) never take on someone their own size.  Perhaps being strung out on something reduced her inhibitions/exacerbated her pre-existing impulse control and anger issues.  Whatev.

All this to say I think the why Caylee died is vastly important.


  Whoops blew that last one......
 Agree with both of you and also wish for a reveal on the WHY, but this case probably will never be explained fully.  Most sociopath killers don't tell why they murdered another unless somehow they can spin it in their favor, once again being the sought after story teller, and most of the time it's family or close friends that can piece things together that will expose the WHY, but the family of KC  (so far anyway) has begun to rewrite history,  they may never tell the truth about anything , I've never seen so many people with so many secrets.
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« Reply #1564 on: February 04, 2009, 12:43:20 AM »



  Whoops blew that last one......
 Agree with both of you and also wish for a reveal on the WHY, but this case probably will never be explained fully.  Most sociopath killers don't tell why they murdered another unless somehow they can spin it in their favor, once again being the sought after story teller, and most of the time it's family or close friends that can piece things together that will expose the WHY, but the family of KC  (so far anyway) has begun to rewrite history,  they may never tell the truth about anything , I've never seen so many people with so many secrets.

   I saw that.... i stuck around waiting for you response...I always enjoy your posts.
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« Reply #1565 on: February 04, 2009, 12:57:18 AM »



  Whoops blew that last one......
 Agree with both of you and also wish for a reveal on the WHY, but this case probably will never be explained fully.  Most sociopath killers don't tell why they murdered another unless somehow they can spin it in their favor, once again being the sought after story teller, and most of the time it's family or close friends that can piece things together that will expose the WHY, but the family of KC  (so far anyway) has begun to rewrite history,  they may never tell the truth about anything , I've never seen so many people with so many secrets.

   I saw that.... i stuck around waiting for you response...I always enjoy your posts.

  I think I'm going brain dead from keeping up with this mess. Every minute there"s some new ugly twist or new creep involved. Actually I think alot of things were coincidental and it all just sorta spiraled into a never ending horror story. Murder,lies,sex,scams, it goes on and on.
I guess I'll step away from the madness and go to bed, keep up the vigil for the next unbelievable development. cya tomorrow.
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« Reply #1566 on: February 04, 2009, 01:01:23 AM »



  Whoops blew that last one......
 Agree with both of you and also wish for a reveal on the WHY, but this case probably will never be explained fully.  Most sociopath killers don't tell why they murdered another unless somehow they can spin it in their favor, once again being the sought after story teller, and most of the time it's family or close friends that can piece things together that will expose the WHY, but the family of KC  (so far anyway) has begun to rewrite history,  they may never tell the truth about anything , I've never seen so many people with so many secrets.

   I saw that.... i stuck around waiting for you response...I always enjoy your posts.



   ps     thanks for the kind words, I enjoy yours also.... I always appreciate the rest of you who can whip out facts and dates.my specialty is potificating.
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« Reply #1567 on: February 04, 2009, 01:02:18 AM »

I saw on Topix this woman was saying that Baez is the most handsome man ever!!! Honestly, that's what she said!(I'm assuming it was a she)..I had a few hot toddies so I read it a few times to make sure. I don't feel well now
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« Reply #1568 on: February 04, 2009, 01:03:49 AM »

I hate to make you sad, but whenever i think of Caylee, I think about a song my mom used to sing when I was little.  It was called "The Teddy Bear's Picnic.  It starts out "when you go out to the woods to play......you should look up the lyrics on yahoo.  Teddy Bears Picnic.  It will make you sad.
A1 that song makes me sad too! I thought I was the only one that knew that song. 
Relly, how bout slide down my rainbow.......something somehing my cellar door and well be jolly friends for ever more.....
Oh little playmate,come out and play with me. My dolly's got the flu,boo-hoo, boo-hoo,boo-hoo.Slide down my rainbow.Climb up my cellar door. And we'll be jolly friends forever more,more,more,more!(My son's favorite song many years ago.)Thanks for the memory!
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« Reply #1569 on: February 04, 2009, 01:21:32 AM »

I hate to make you sad, but whenever i think of Caylee, I think about a song my mom used to sing when I was little.  It was called "The Teddy Bear's Picnic.  It starts out "when you go out to the woods to play......you should look up the lyrics on yahoo.  Teddy Bears Picnic.  It will make you sad.
A1 that song makes me sad too! I thought I was the only one that knew that song. 
Relly, how bout slide down my rainbow.......something somehing my cellar door and well be jolly friends for ever more.....
Oh little playmate,come out and play with me. My dolly's got the flu,boo-hoo, boo-hoo,boo-hoo.Slide down my rainbow.Climb up my cellar door. And we'll be jolly friends forever more,more,more,more!(My son's favorite song many years ago.)Thanks for the memory!

Hi Blu!!  I'm not sure we've met, so WELCOME!!

Maybe the lyrics are a regional thing? The version I know goes like this:

See, See, my playmate
Come out and play with me
And bring your dollies, three
Climb up my apple tree

Slide down my rainbow
Into my cellar door
And we'll be jolly friends
Forever more (more, more!)

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« Reply #1570 on: February 04, 2009, 01:36:56 AM »

Okay, so I'm just going to be blunt here. I'm tiring myself out trying to wrap my brain around theories about KC's drug habits, who knew and didn't know that Caylee was dead before the public even knew she was missing, what the Anthonys' involvement may or may not have been, whether KC was involved in porn, where/why she chose the name ZFG, what the connection is to Jennifer Kesse and Nicole Ganguzza, if Kronk is on the up-and-up, whether George was really suicidal, if there really was a BlackJack phone, and so on and so forth . . . .and then I realized today that ALL . . . I .... REALLY .... WANT .... TO ....KNOW .....IS ......
WHOSE FINGERPRINTS ARE ON THE BAG AND THE DUCT TAPE; ARE THEY CASEY'S FINGERPRINTS AND NO ONE ELSE'S???

If they are, I will be satisfied and stop obsessing over this case. Because then I will know justice will be served because jurors cannot be blindsided by crazy defense strategy when the forensic evidence is rock-solid (okay, yes, they were in the OJ trial, but that's another story; KC is not OJ and no one is going to let her off for killing her baby).

I agree, except I'd still like to understand why? Maybe that's just my problem.


I need to know why, too.  I always have to know the why about things--esp. when it comes to someone killing a defenseless creature.

I do think the family is messed up.  But there's something else to bear here.  Its not a "simple" thing like that looney in TX who brutalized/killed Baby Grace.  And folks who think death might go back on table for Caylee's murderer should dream on.  Texas is a smoke 'em state, and this horribly cruel woman only got life...though I guess she might have turned on her husband and he may pay.  I don't know since I haven't followed that case.

Imho, alleged perp in Caylee's case had no impulse control and flew off the handle and took out her frustration on the weakest person in her midst.  People like that (in my experience) never take on someone their own size.  Perhaps being strung out on something reduced her inhibitions/exacerbated her pre-existing impulse control and anger issues.  Whatev.

All this to say I think the why Caylee died is vastly important.


WHY she died is less important than why there is such an attempted cover up of the death.

She died because KC was sick and tired of being burdened down by her. She was tired of covering up her lack of a job and she could not leave because of Caylee. She didn't want her, but she refused to let Cindy have her. That would be admitting defeat in her eyes and that was never acceptable in the life long power struggle with her mother.

I do believe Turbo is exactly right in her theory, but I think all of it hit her like a flashbulb, and Caylee died as a result of it.
Try as I might, I just can't not hate her for it, and I dont hate anyone ever. I blame Baez.  I long for the day this is over, and we can say the things that you cannot put out publicly in the process, and that's sayin' alot. Ugh 
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« Reply #1571 on: February 04, 2009, 01:45:59 AM »

Cindy prolly wants him home so she can depose him before the deposition 
GA was deposed by CA probably by the 3nd week of their marrriage! The king is dead, long live the queen.
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« Reply #1572 on: February 04, 2009, 01:53:14 AM »

watching WESH right now and they say George is home, his family opted to have him come home instead of to another hospital. Guess Cindy still wears the pants 

She is terrified of what he has told and they have to debrief him. LOL
yep, that gets my vote

if ole george is "successful next time".  I may think he had a lil help, kwim?
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« Reply #1573 on: February 04, 2009, 01:56:33 AM »

I would have thought that George's doc would have protected him and sent him to another hospital liked was said.  I dont know what it is like there, but it sure doesnt seem to be a good enviornment.

I agree. I am thinking his doc recomended it but Cindy wouldn't allow it.  Seems foolish to send him right back to the same environment that had to play a big part in why he was hospitalized to begin with.

There may not have been anywhere that would take him. With no one working they most likely do not have any insurance. When someone is Baker Acted, the state pays, but when they are released, they have to pay. I would guess he could not get into any facility.
Interesting, are there no Bro Pono Psych Docs around when you need 'em?  Plenty of scumbag probono atty's and legal experts.  Ironic?
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« Reply #1574 on: February 04, 2009, 02:28:02 AM »

It sure takes me a long time to get caught up. 

Wanted to put this out there as I haven't seen anyone suggest this. 

Casey can "profit" off of her crime up and until she is convicted, I think.  So the longer it drags out...the more movie, book and article deals can be made.  That is how everyone is getting paid I bet.  The way Baez is getting around HIM being the one to benefit is to have the "deal" signed by her (and of course he is billing her and so are the "experts").

One of the pressers said something to the effect of "Baez was handling the contracts and paperwork of the deals..but not to himself".  Anyone remember that?  Think Todd Black said this.  And someone did visit her late at night that we saw that had something to do with media.
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« Reply #1575 on: February 04, 2009, 02:35:30 AM »


well
well i guess everyone in the ant family is taking the 5th
on the nanny thing so
i guess we will never know just what in the heck happend
i think this case needs some one to step in and say enough is enough
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« Reply #1576 on: February 04, 2009, 02:40:30 AM »

I dont know if any of you remember the mayor from detriot
well that case was so screwed up and still is and he ruined a lot of lifes to and he only got 100 days in Jail
he is now out of jail
so i guess it is all in who ya know and how much money ya have and who you bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbllllloooooo
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« Reply #1577 on: February 04, 2009, 02:47:40 AM »


well
well i guess everyone in the ant family is taking the 5th
on the nanny thing so
i guess we will never know just what in the heck happend
i think this case needs some one to step in and say enough is enough


I don't think the Ant's can get away with taking the 5th as they aren't charged with a crime yet...or at least involving the "nanny" and they can be threatened with jail time for contempt.  KC can get away with it as she is charged...and threatening her with jail time is moot. IMO
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« Reply #1578 on: February 04, 2009, 02:59:08 AM »

THIS CASE HAS MAD ME SO CRAZY THE WAY ALL THE ANTS THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW AND NOONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT WHAT IS UP WITH THAT IT JUST ISNT RIGHT
I THINK THAT CINDY GEROGE LEE CASEY HAVE FORGOTTEN CAYLEE WAS KILLED BY SOMEONE IF IT WASNT CASEY SOME ONE DID IT
YOU THINK THEY WOULD GRIVE ABOUT THAT I DONT SEE THIEM DOING THAT I SEE THEM TRING TO GET OUT OF TROUBLE ALL THE TIME
THAT MAKES ME THINK THEY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT
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« Reply #1579 on: February 04, 2009, 03:00:25 AM »

 
HOW CAN ANYONE SUPORT THAT FAMILY I JUST DONT KNOW
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