Caylee Marie Anthony #102 4/01/09 - 4/04/09

[luvmyson]

Let me tell you, the best night I have had during this case was on Murt's site. I was giving someone who said she was Cindy a piece and a half of my mind. I did not care is she really was Cindy, but I totally unloaded both barrels. Come to find out, it had been Cindy. Wow, I was not nice to that woman but spoke my mind. That was a good nite.

I couldn't deal with Murt but, did he REALLY attempt suicide on air???

Island Monkey, yes he did fake a suicide attempt and that was my last night on his site. The guy is a fraud and scam. I totally drank his Kool-Aid and enjoyed driving around to the different locations in this case. But now I know more about him and am embarassed that I bought into that crap.

   Your kidding me?  He did that?  How?  I guess I drank the kool-aid too.

I missed Murt's fake suicide.   I can't get in to his chat anymore.   I didn't even harass him & he won't let me in....Oh well, nothing lost,

[Hudsunn]

Everyone says Baez is a lousy lawyer, and he does not appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he does not have much to go with in this case.  Casey's own words have made her almost impossible to defend.  How can he say someone else did it, when she herself identified Zanny the Nanny as the culprit?  He would have to say, "Don't believe my lying client when she said Zanny did it." 

I think his best bet is to say that Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee after pyschological abuse and threats to take the child away as well as attempts to cut Casey off from all her friends by telling them Casey was a sociopath and a chronic liar.  Cindy is not at all likeable and is very controlling.  Several people would testify that Cindy talked trash about Casey, that Cindy competed with Casey for the affection of Caylee, that Cindy put Casey down in private and in public, that Cindy tried to control every aspect of Casey's life, including forcing her to have a baby that Casey wanted to put up for adoption.  I think he might be able to convince a jury that Cindy literally made Casey feel like dirt, like a failure and a terrible mother.  Of course, Casey would have to cooperate with that.

Jesse Grund, Amy, co-workers, etc. would testify that Cindy said some terrible things to and about Casey and that Cindy wanted to take Caylee and raise her. 

I don't see anything else that would work, unless there has been abuse of Casey by the men in the house, which she claimed at one point, and he could use that in some way to defend her.  Again, that would take Casey admitting to the crime and claiming the abuse excuse, which so far, she has not done.

[theboyzmom]

JSM - no need to bottle here - Let it fly - we all love you! 

Sorry for the O/T but it is slow here

I am on Joy's chat having fun harassing her

i am gonna have to go back over & check on things over there in a minute! iswear, i almost peed on myself when we were over there! i bet she thinks she is BIG time now! that was honestly one of the best laughs i have had in ages! she never posts a complete sentence & about HER STALKERS! hilariious!!!! she is honestly crazy! that cheered my whole day up! my husband kept coming in here asking if i was ok!!! we have to go back again!

wendi

Later on, after she claimed to have "left the room" someone named joyjoy came on and this person  typed and sounded EXACTLY like Joy.  Couldn't make a coherent sentence to save herself! And talked in the third person. It had to be her...  She has a screw loose for sure!  FAR from normal....

That same nut was there when i was there - she is either Joy or just as stupid! 

[Dihannah1]

Let me tell you, the best night I have had during this case was on Murt's site. I was giving someone who said she was Cindy a piece and a half of my mind. I did not care is she really was Cindy, but I totally unloaded both barrels. Come to find out, it had been Cindy. Wow, I was not nice to that woman but spoke my mind. That was a good nite.

I couldn't deal with Murt but, did he REALLY attempt suicide on air???

Island Monkey, yes he did fake a suicide attempt and that was my last night on his site. The guy is a fraud and scam. I totally drank his Kool-Aid and enjoyed driving around to the different locations in this case. But now I know more about him and am embarassed that I bought into that crap.

   Your kidding me?  He did that?  How?  I guess I drank the kool-aid too.

I missed Murt's fake suicide.   I can't get in to his chat anymore.   I didn't even harass him & he won't let me in....Oh well, nothing lost,

I haven't been there in awhile either.  I had trouble with the new site too.  I am in shock he would do that though.   I feel sorry for him.  He lost a son, then his wife and seems very lonely.   Obvisously has some issues.  However, I did enjoy the rides with him.  Thanks for the info!

[Jerseygirl345]

Everyone says Baez is a lousy lawyer, and he does not appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he does not have much to go with in this case.  Casey's own words have made her almost impossible to defend.  How can he say someone else did it, when she herself identified Zanny the Nanny as the culprit?  He would have to say, "Don't believe my lying client when she said Zanny did it." 

I think his best bet is to say that Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee after pyschological abuse and threats to take the child away as well as attempts to cut Casey off from all her friends by telling them Casey was a sociopath and a chronic liar.  Cindy is not at all likeable and is very controlling.  Several people would testify that Cindy talked trash about Casey, that Cindy competed with Casey for the affection of Caylee, that Cindy put Casey down in private and in public, that Cindy tried to control every aspect of Casey's life, including forcing her to have a baby that Casey wanted to put up for adoption.  I think he might be able to convince a jury that Cindy literally made Casey feel like dirt, like a failure and a terrible mother.  Of course, Casey would have to cooperate with that.

Jesse Grund, Amy, co-workers, etc. would testify that Cindy said some terrible things to and about Casey and that Cindy wanted to take Caylee and raise her. 

I don't see anything else that would work, unless there has been abuse of Casey by the men in the house, which she claimed at one point, and he could use that in some way to defend her.  Again, that would take Casey admitting to the crime and claiming the abuse excuse, which so far, she has not done.

There is never a reason or excuse to kill an innocent child...

[FloridaKatz]

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[Mtnmom]

Everyone says Baez is a lousy lawyer, and he does not appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he does not have much to go with in this case.  Casey's own words have made her almost impossible to defend.  How can he say someone else did it, when she herself identified Zanny the Nanny as the culprit?  He would have to say, "Don't believe my lying client when she said Zanny did it." 

I think his best bet is to say that Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee after pyschological abuse and threats to take the child away as well as attempts to cut Casey off from all her friends by telling them Casey was a sociopath and a chronic liar.  Cindy is not at all likeable and is very controlling.  Several people would testify that Cindy talked trash about Casey, that Cindy competed with Casey for the affection of Caylee, that Cindy put Casey down in private and in public, that Cindy tried to control every aspect of Casey's life, including forcing her to have a baby that Casey wanted to put up for adoption.  I think he might be able to convince a jury that Cindy literally made Casey feel like dirt, like a failure and a terrible mother.  Of course, Casey would have to cooperate with that.

Jesse Grund, Amy, co-workers, etc. would testify that Cindy said some terrible things to and about Casey and that Cindy wanted to take Caylee and raise her. 

I don't see anything else that would work, unless there has been abuse of Casey by the men in the house, which she claimed at one point, and he could use that in some way to defend her.  Again, that would take Casey admitting to the crime and claiming the abuse excuse, which so far, she has not done.

Hudson ITA It will turn out the whole family was abusing Casey. The A's are going under the bus in one way or the other. This is why I believe theyve continued on with the Caylee is alive story despite any contrary evidence. Theyve been trying to save face with Casey. They know shes evil.

[Jerseygirl345]

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[joesamas mama]

JSM - no need to bottle here - Let it fly - we all love you! 

Sorry for the O/T but it is slow here

I am on Joy's chat having fun harassing her

i am gonna have to go back over & check on things over there in a minute! iswear, i almost peed on myself when we were over there! i bet she thinks she is BIG time now! that was honestly one of the best laughs i have had in ages! she never posts a complete sentence & about HER STALKERS! hilariious!!!! she is honestly crazy! that cheered my whole day up! my husband kept coming in here asking if i was ok!!! we have to go back again!

wendi

What a hoot.

Just asking stupid question Rose were you on Joy's chat? I think maybe I saw you.

[FloridaKatz]

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The Tongue Monkey has got to be the cutest one on here I think !  And they had a Monkey commercial for the SuperBowl !  GO MONKEYS !!

[Mary Ann]

Yup, I totally enjoyed the rides. However, Murt is in this for the money. He has been scamming many (mostly older) women. You need to pay to get into his chat. I am totally embarassed that I was almost scammed by Murt because I am always wary of these things. The way he and Lois used Dakota on the internet was so wrong. This poor little girl has been through enough. It was just all so wrong and bad.......

[Dihannah1]

Everyone says Baez is a lousy lawyer, and he does not appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he does not have much to go with in this case.  Casey's own words have made her almost impossible to defend.  How can he say someone else did it, when she herself identified Zanny the Nanny as the culprit?  He would have to say, "Don't believe my lying client when she said Zanny did it." 

I think his best bet is to say that Cindy drove Casey to kill Caylee after pyschological abuse and threats to take the child away as well as attempts to cut Casey off from all her friends by telling them Casey was a sociopath and a chronic liar.  Cindy is not at all likeable and is very controlling.  Several people would testify that Cindy talked trash about Casey, that Cindy competed with Casey for the affection of Caylee, that Cindy put Casey down in private and in public, that Cindy tried to control every aspect of Casey's life, including forcing her to have a baby that Casey wanted to put up for adoption.  I think he might be able to convince a jury that Cindy literally made Casey feel like dirt, like a failure and a terrible mother.  Of course, Casey would have to cooperate with that.

Jesse Grund, Amy, co-workers, etc. would testify that Cindy said some terrible things to and about Casey and that Cindy wanted to take Caylee and raise her. 

I don't see anything else that would work, unless there has been abuse of Casey by the men in the house, which she claimed at one point, and he could use that in some way to defend her.  Again, that would take Casey admitting to the crime and claiming the abuse excuse, which so far, she has not done.

From the voice of reason, as always.  I love your posts, as they are so thought out and so believable.

If Baez was smart and wanted what respect he ever had, (if any), he'd run far, far away from this case.   He's hurting himself, as well as KC by encouraging her insanity.

[NewfieMonkey]

JSM - no need to bottle here - Let it fly - we all love you! 

Sorry for the O/T but it is slow here

I am on Joy's chat having fun harassing her

i am gonna have to go back over & check on things over there in a minute! iswear, i almost peed on myself when we were over there! i bet she thinks she is BIG time now! that was honestly one of the best laughs i have had in ages! she never posts a complete sentence & about HER STALKERS! hilariious!!!! she is honestly crazy! that cheered my whole day up! my husband kept coming in here asking if i was ok!!! we have to go back again!

wendi

Wendi, I haven't had that much fun in ages!  Let me know if you're goin in!  I've got your back.

Hey who was Mystery Lurker? You gave me the best laugh I have had in years with the nut stalking the nuts stalking the family of nuts....Kudos to you!

let's go back in about 10 minutes,if you can! i don't think she knows what to do with all of us!!!! i was about to die everytime she brought up her STALKERS!!!! also, i saved the link that was posted (before all my monkeys got there) to SARA'S, yeah, i said SARA's website! i haven't had a chance to go to it yet! i just want to see what is goin on with JSM before i go back! it is so much fun over there, cause you don't even have to think, just type!!!!! 

PEE

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

[KarmaRoundUp]

BabyBear wrote:

The US Supreme Court has ruled that the Fifth Amendment privilege applies in both civil and criminal trials.  The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution protects us from being forced to testify against ourselves.  Casey can only be held in contempt if she refuses to answer a question after she has been granted immunity.  Therefore, since she has not been granted immunity, and it is likely that she will not be, she can claim her Fifth Amendment rights without consequence.  Also, the fact that she avails herself of the Fifth Amendment cannot be introduced into her criminal trial because the fact that one claims Fifth Amendment privileges cannot be held against them and cannot be used to infer guilt.

Karma wrote:

Thanks for the info BabyBear
Same rules apply even though Casey filed a counter suit against Zanny?

BabyBear wrote:

Same Constitutuional rules apply but I think Casey will forfeit the case if she is not forthcoming in her deposition or in this case written interlocutory.   Can't sue someone and then refuse to answer questions about your accusations.  Funny Jose Baez didn't know that, but his legal knowledge IMO is somewhat sketchy.  I think they countersued to scare the real Zenaida off, but it didn't work.

Thank you so much for all of the info.

[NewfieMonkey]

Oh and ... and "airway specialist" will testify that duct tape put over mouth after death ... no chloroform vapors on tape.  I work in a hospital ... I'm gonna have to find out who the "airway specialist" is .... 

[FloridaKatz]

JSM - no need to bottle here - Let it fly - we all love you! 

Sorry for the O/T but it is slow here

I am on Joy's chat having fun harassing her

i am gonna have to go back over & check on things over there in a minute! iswear, i almost peed on myself when we were over there! i bet she thinks she is BIG time now! that was honestly one of the best laughs i have had in ages! she never posts a complete sentence & about HER STALKERS! hilariious!!!! she is honestly crazy! that cheered my whole day up! my husband kept coming in here asking if i was ok!!! we have to go back again!

wendi

Wendi, I haven't had that much fun in ages!  Let me know if you're goin in!  I've got your back.

Hey who was Mystery Lurker? You gave me the best laugh I have had in years with the nut stalking the nuts stalking the family of nuts....Kudos to you!

let's go back in about 10 minutes,if you can! i don't think she knows what to do with all of us!!!! i was about to die everytime she brought up her STALKERS!!!! also, i saved the link that was posted (before all my monkeys got there) to SARA'S, yeah, i said SARA's website! i haven't had a chance to go to it yet! i just want to see what is goin on with JSM before i go back! it is so much fun over there, cause you don't even have to think, just type!!!!! 

PEE

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

Can you share the link to Sara's site or is that not allowed here ?  Puuuulllleeeeeeeeze ?  Pretty Please ?

[NewfieMonkey]

http://www.babycayleemarie.chatango.com/

Hope I did that right ... let me know if that works ..

[no rose colored glasses]

ya'll someone named "roman" over at joy's thing just asked if they read at scared monkeys! surely that wasn't one of us!!!! i don't think anyone paid any attention but i am goin back to post a bunch of stuff so maybe they won't catch on!!!! don't want them to ruin my fun!!!!

wendi

yeh that roman guy is cool

[wendiw8780]

JSM - no need to bottle here - Let it fly - we all love you! 

Sorry for the O/T but it is slow here

I am on Joy's chat having fun harassing her

i am gonna have to go back over & check on things over there in a minute! iswear, i almost peed on myself when we were over there! i bet she thinks she is BIG time now! that was honestly one of the best laughs i have had in ages! she never posts a complete sentence & about HER STALKERS! hilariious!!!! she is honestly crazy! that cheered my whole day up! my husband kept coming in here asking if i was ok!!! we have to go back again!

wendi

Wendi, I haven't had that much fun in ages!  Let me know if you're goin in!  I've got your back.

Hey who was Mystery Lurker? You gave me the best laugh I have had in years with the nut stalking the nuts stalking the family of nuts....Kudos to you!

let's go back in about 10 minutes,if you can! i don't think she knows what to do with all of us!!!! i was about to die everytime she brought up her STALKERS!!!! also, i saved the link that was posted (before all my monkeys got there) to SARA'S, yeah, i said SARA's website! i haven't had a chance to go to it yet! i just want to see what is goin on with JSM before i go back! it is so much fun over there, cause you don't even have to think, just type!!!!! 

PEE

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

Can you share the link to Sara's site or is that not allowed here ?  Puuuulllleeeeeeeeze ?  Pretty Please ?

yeah, i haven't been there yet, just happened to save it to fav's when someone posted it BEFORE joy deleted it. give me a second. if i can't post the link (u know i stink at it i will just type it exactly) i don't think joy is gonna be happy when she gets back! brb with SARA's link.

wendi

from now on just say go to m or something cause her pm won't work

[FloridaKatz]

http://www.babycayleemarie.chatango.com/

Hope I did that right ... let me know if that works ..

Yep it worked, and Sara is looking for PEE !!  Trying to PM her !!  BETTER GO, PEE !!