Natalee Case Discussion #799 2/5/09 - 2/11/09

[Lifesong]

Hotping

Thank you for that!  Schaefer - not Schaeffer. 

Awesome!

[hotping]

Here again I don't know if this is a Duplicate but I'm going for it anyways..

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-txsdce/case_no-4:2008cv01472/case_id-577680/

Stiebel v. Superior Offshore International, Inc et al DO NOT DOCKET IN. CASE CONSOLIDATED UNDER 4:08CV0687
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Plaintiff: Cary Stiebel
Defendant: Superior Offshore International, Inc, Louis E Schaefer, Jr., James J. Mermis, Roger D Burks, R Joshua Koch, Jr, Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Inc. and J.P. Morgan Securities, Inc.
 
Case Number: 4:2008cv01472
Filed: May 13, 2008
 
Court: Texas Southern District Court
Office: Securities/Commodities Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Judge Nancy F. Atlas
Presiding Judge: Judge Keith P Ellison
 
Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Securities/Commodities/Exchanges
Cause: Federal Question
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: 15:77 Securities Fraud

I know I'm quoting Myself but I left off this link 

http://dockets.justia.com/search?q=Joshua+Smith

[hotping]

Hotping

Thank you for that!  Schaefer - not Schaeffer. 

Awesome!

YW! 

[Anna]

I find Rudy Croes comments about the CIA highly insulting.  Our CIA does not conduct internal espionage.  Their mission statement deals only with foreign concerns.

Guess if it is American, it has to be bad, evil, etc. huh, Rudy?

Reminds me of Karin Janssen's remark about going in like cowboys.  Believe me, they could only be improved by cowboys.  They couldn't muster the character of one cowboy on that entire island.

Rudy can kiss my CIA.

.

[caesu]

Early departure for Aruban Public Prosecutor

Published: Saturday 07 February 2009 09:55 UTC
Last updated: Saturday 07 February 2009 09:55 UTC

Hans Mos, the head of the Public Prosecutor's Office on Aruba, is to quit his position this summer. He has shed no light on the reasons for his early departure. The most important case handled during his tenure was that of Natalee Holloway, the US student who disappeared from the island in 2005. The case, which is still not closed and which is estimated to have cost more than seven and a half million euros, has led to increasing criticism of Mr Mos.

The announcement of his departure comes at a time when relationships between Aruba and the Netherlands are strained. The Aruban Justice Minister, Rudy Croes, has accused the Netherlands of spying after serious allegations about Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber and a member of Mr Croes' family were found in a confidential document produced by the Dutch delegation to the island.

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/zijlijn/6167133/Early-departure-for-Aruban-Public-Prosecutor

it would be a good thing if this gets some international attention.
maybe Greta can do an item about.
to show that Hero Brinkman was right when he said that 'Aruba is as corrupt as hell'.
this corruption enabled the cover-up in the Holloway-case.

no surprise Croes wanted to punch Brinkman in the head, Van der Straten wanted him arrested and he was thrown out of the Dutch delegation.

Is that Gerald Dompig on the left?  Or am I seeing things.  I hope it is the latter!

 

yes, it's Dompig.

[hotping]

Schaefer Holdings/LP

 http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.b.htm

[texasmom]

Now I'm just shooting in the dark...this may not even be relevant.  I was curious who the Mr. Voorhies is in Marianne Silvetti-Voorhies.  If anyone knows, that'd be great.  I found a Judson Voorhies associated with companies that would easily relate with Silvetti's, but again, I have no idea.

snip

Lifesong,
I looked into this a while back and this is what I came up with; not sure it's the right one either but found it interesting.



http://www.myspace.com/mrskbv

About me:
Hello all, I'm Marianne, and I'm a total workaholic! I am married to a sexy bitch named Kim(Jr) and we have 2 beautiful twin daughters, Giulyana (Julie-ahn-ah), and Isabella as well as one 4-legged son . . .Champ the Weimeraner. I am oilfield trash and proud of it. I am also a yankee by blood but raised in the dirty south(and wouldn't have it any other way).

http://www.theatchafalayaexperience.com/

snip:

We are a father-son team and have many years of experience within the swamp, and are knowledgeable of the fauna and flora of the Louisiana ecosystems. Coerte A. Voorhies, Jr. is a consulting geologist (semi-retired) and has knowledge of the geology, history, geography and various ethnic cultures of South Louisiana. Kim B. Voorhies is retired military and has hunted and fished, as well as accompanied his father throughout the marshes and swamps of South Louisiana, assimilating the experience necessary to conduct trips into this wilderness.


(see pics at bottom of page)

I think this is probably the right one!  

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54363642

[Anna]

caesu,

Does it say what Dompig is doing there?  What does any of this have to do with him, I wonder.

[caesu]

I find Rudy Croes comments about the CIA highly insulting.  Our CIA does not conduct internal espionage.  Their mission statement deals only with foreign concerns.

Guess if it is American, it has to be bad, evil, etc. huh, Rudy?

Reminds me of Karin Janssen's remark about going in like cowboys.  Believe me, they could only be improved by cowboys.  They couldn't muster the character of one cowboy on that entire island.

Rudy can kiss my CIA.

.

Rudy Croes isn't talking about the American CIA.
he is saying the Dutch representation on Aruba is some kind of 'Dutch CIA', spying on Aruba.
http://www.minbzk.nl/vertegenwoordiging-aruba/engels/the-representation

he should have said AIVD, this is General Intelligence and Security Service of the Netherlands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Intelligence_and_Security_Service

although there is an AIVD / navy liason officer at the Dutch representation.
this is to gather intelligence about Venezuela.
now Rudy Croes suspects this officer is also spying on Aruba itself.
that's why he wants the liason officer to leave and he won't cooperate with the Dutch representation anymore.

but i think most of it is just fake outrage and empty threats.
he just wants to get the most out of this.
Monday the Dutch will apologize and call the ones who wrote the internal report back.
Croes wants to embarrass the Dutch as much as possible.

but i think, the leaked internal report, which he made public himself, is most embarrassing for Croes.
because anyone who is following the Aruban justice department just a little bit, knows this report comes very close to the truth.

[caesu]

caesu,

Does it say what Dompig is doing there?  What does any of this have to do with him, I wonder.

it's just a still photo of Rudy Croes, what Greta used on her broadcast while she was talking to Hero Brinkman in December 2008.
i guess it's some press conference Rudy Croes gave with Dompig in 2005.

[texasmom]

caesu,

Does it say what Dompig is doing there?  What does any of this have to do with him, I wonder.

JMO, but I think that's an old picture.  However, from recent articles Dompig wants back in ALE, and Rudy didn't seem to object at all.

[Lifesong]

Natalee Holloway / Natalee Holloway / Re: The Ocean Search for Natalee Holloway Monday, November 26, 2007on: January 15, 2009, 02:09:07 PM 
Started by Blonde, Message by Blonde Relevance: 47.7%

http://www.iberianet.com/articles/2007/11/29/news/news/news00.txt

From here to Aruba

BY JEFF MOORE, THE DAILY IBERIAN
Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:37 PM CST

<snip>

Marc Broussard, project manager for the Silvetti Group, said the company normally performs surveys looking for oil rigs and downed helicopters. Now, it will be using its high-resolution SONAR equipment to look for a body.

To upgrade its systems for the terrain in Aruba, Broussard said the Silvetti Group looked to its vendors, two of which are based in New Iberia.

Seatronics, located at the Port of Iberia, agreed to donate some of its high-tech electronic equipment to scan the ocean floor.

“I told (Silvetti) any opportunity that we had to go in on such a good cause, we would go in on it,” said Erik McGuire, vice president of Seatronics Inc.

“We’re more than happy to give the best effort possible to recover this girl for her family.”

Pro Log Inc. also stepped forth to provide a command center building where all of the surveying equipment will be stored. Like many people around the country, Pro Log Human Resources Director Heidi Parker said she has been following Holloway’s disappearance closely.

“We’re a family-owned business, so family is very important to us,” Parker said. “Anything we can do to help this family out is something that we’re going to do.”

<snip>

I know we're all pretty familiar with this article by now, but I have to say...

I'd be right ticked off if I'd donated a bldg. or expensive high-tech equipment for a charitable endeavor and then found out it was used to not only undermine the charitable purpose, but also to create a map of the sea-floor with a very high value in the marketplace.

Just sayin'   

[Lifesong]

From Hotping's link:  http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1ca5  regarding Schaefer Holdings

Reads as though Schaefer Holdings only has 2 partners, Louis Schaefer and R. Joshua Koch



http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin?rqstyp=crpinxtc&rqsdta=KOCH+R+JOSHA+++32216860DO02

Louisiana Secretary of State
Name Search Results
(Active Records Shown in Bold)


R. JOSHA KOCH, Vice President, KOCH ENERGY CORPORATION

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, D.S.I., INC.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, SOUTHLAND OIL AND GAS CO., INC.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, DYNAMIC DIVING SERVICES, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, EQUINE ENTERPRISES, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, RENAL SERVICE GROUP, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, VASSAR DESIGN, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, Registered Agent, ABSOLUTELY SUPERB CATERING SERVICE, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, ROC PAUL STUDIOS, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Manager, SKP REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, PERITONEAL DIALYSIS SYSTEMS, L.L.C.
 
R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, SUPERIOR OFFSHORE INTERNATIONAL, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, GREENHEAD RENTALS, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, KOCH, L.L.C.

R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR., Member or Manager, KOCH, L.L.C.

R. JOSUA KOCH, JR., Registered Agent, SPECIALTY RENTALS, L.L.C.


So Silvetti had Layfayette Rental Referencing (no longer active), Koch had Specialty Rentals (no longer active) and now has Greenhead Rentals.


I gotta run get some Saturday stuff done.  I'll be back tonight to work on the Texas info., but will pop in and out to read in the meantime.

Have a great afternoon everyone!

[Buckeye]

Regarding the pictures in the cage:

Kyle posted that they were using a SeaEye Falcon 1266 ROV.

This ROV is rated to 300 meters.

Clear pictures at 90 feet would be nothing!  Camera specs listed at this site:

http://www.seaeye.com/falcon.html

[Icehawk]

Hi All.


Has this name Nino croes ever been mentioned.

[Blue Moon]

WRECK?? I am leaving this for you in here hoping you will find it!

I'm sorry mods and Klaas. But when I spend THIS long making one, I'm bringing it special delivery.......

The WRECK, the WRECK, the WRECK is on FIRE.....

(Your Halloween Avi ought to be a cinch!)


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/originals/fire-wreck3.gif

Bad CBB. Bad.   

[Lifesong]

From Hotping's link:  http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1ca5  regarding Schaefer Holdings

Reads as though Schaefer Holdings only has 2 partners, Louis Schaefer and R. Joshua Koch


http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin?rqstyp=crpinxtc&rqsdta=KOCH+R+JOSHA+++32216860DO02

Louisiana Secretary of State
Name Search Results
(Active Records Shown in Bold)

R. JOSHA KOCH, Vice President, KOCH ENERGY CORPORATION

<snip>

Koch Energy Corp., opened in 1978 just dissolved on 11/18/2008.

[Blue Moon]

Chief public prosecutor Hans Mos is fired


http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52476.php

with its headline, Aruban newspaper Amigoe is following the Trouw version.

Dutch newspaper Trouw says it is because of the leaked internal VNO-report.
http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article2025318.ece/Aruba_stuurt_hoofdofficier_Mos_weg__.html

Radio Netherlands Worldwide quotes interviewed minister Frido Croes saying it is Hans Mos' own decision.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20090207_mos-vertrek

I wonder if Mos knows he is fired yet.  Appears to be their style to state it in the paper but not tell the person.

[klaasend]

Hi All.


Has this name Nino croes ever been mentioned.

Not that I can recall.  They have pretty good english though.

Nino Croes
anton@setarnet.aw
31 Mar 2004
19:16:32


Hi I am from Aruba and work at the Divi Village. I have some good idea for everyone who want to have a nice vacation here in Aruba. First you can buy a cell-phone so you don't have to use your phone in your room whitch is too expensive. Local calls will be cheaper than than hotel phone. But also you can buy prepaid phonecard whitch you can use at the cabin around the island. But than you have to go around to find one. That is why a cell-phone is more helpfull. You can make international calls too. For a minute you pay about 60 cent to call USA and Canada. Or it could be cheaper too. And at night it more cheaper. Where to buy cell-phone? At the teleshop behind Royal Plaza you can buy the cell-phone of your choice. When you go home you can take it with you and bring it back next year.No fee to open a prepaid cell phone. Just buy the card to charge it and enjoy your calls.

Regards

http://www.visitaruba.com/guestbook/guests2004.html

[klaasend]

http://novus.telearuba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=17&Itemid=57

Telearuba Staff:

Vincent (Nino) Croes 
Nino ta un di e veteranonan na Telearuba, e tin en total 31 aña trahando cu Telearuba.
Desde 1983 Nino ta trahando como technical director di noticia y diferente otro
programanan produci pa Telearuba. Prome cu esaki Nino a yega di traha como editor,
video operator, shadier y a traha tambe den e departamento di production. Nino ta
haya su trabou hopi varia.

Nino is one of  Telearuba’s veteran; he has been working with the company for about
31 years. Nino works as a technical director of Telenoticia and many other programs
produced by Telearuba since 1983. Before 1983 he worked as editor, video operator,
shadier and has also worked in the production department. Nino finds his job to be
diverse.