Natalee Case Discussion #799 2/5/09 - 2/11/09

[texasmom]

   Woman dead after hours of waiting First Aid
10 Feb, 2009, 14:56 (GMT -04:00)
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ORANGE CITY - A 27-year-old woman yesterday deceased by her husband after hours at the emergency of the Horacio Oduber Hospital has had to wait for treatment. The hospital has an immediate investigation and autopsy today on the body occurred.

Nashma B., mother of two children, was by her GP urgently referred after they complained of breathing problems. On the first aid she was not directly helped while purple aanliep, so told her husband who is now a lawyer in the arm it. Security staff would have tried several times to the occupied port doctors warn. His wife, according to her husband only when they helped each other in folded. Doctors took her gereanimeerd and the medium care unit over a short time where she later died. According to insiders, the woman suspected of a pulmonary embolism or a closure of the longslagader which part of the lungs no longer receives blood or oxygen.
The hospital does not respond to the allegations of the husband. "We can neither confirm nor deny whether the woman had to wait hours. Yesterday it was very very busy at the Emergency Assistance. All beds were occupied by patients who were seriously ill. So the wait was longer than normal, "says spokesman Bob Harms. He says that the hospital case record high and as quickly as possible to have clarity on the cause of death of women.
The deceased woman was employed at the headquarters of Aruba Bank Camacuri, after the news decided to close its doors earlier.

Good morning monkeys!  Thanks Johan for posting this.  Very sad story.  If I understood the story from Awe Mainta the woman had recently had an operation.  Her death was a huge shock to those who knew and worked with her.  And two young children, one had recently been in the Carnaval parade from my understanding of the article I read.

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Troubleshooter: Deconstructing my honeymoon in Aruba
Hotel offers a ‘sorry’ for out-of-service pool, but should it do more?
TRAVEL TROUBLESHOOTER
By Christopher Elliott
Travel columnist
Tribune Media Services
updated 10:09 a.m. ET, Tues., Feb. 10, 2009

Q: My fiance and I booked our honeymoon at the Westin Aruba through a travel agent. At the time we made our reservations, we knew the hotel was undergoing some renovations in its lobby. I spoke with our agent, and e-mailed the hotel directly to find out if there would still be construction during our honeymoon several months later. I was emphatically told no, and even have an e-mail saying so from a Westin guest services manager.

Now, only a few weeks before the trip, I have been notified that the pool area of the hotel will be undergoing construction and will be unavailable to guests during our stay. The pool at a smaller, less expensive, hotel will be available for use. We have travel insurance, so we can get all of our money back, less the insurance fee of $258. But we'd still have to book another hotel at the last minute, at a much higher rate.

The Westin has apologized but has not offered any sort of discount or other compensation. Is there anything we can do, other than simply cancel our reservation?
— Stefanie Rasimowicz, Princeton, N.J.

A: Westin should do more than apologize for the construction. After all, this is only the most important vacation of your life, and it ought to be perfect. Besides, it promised the construction would be done.

The hotel's pool is one of its best amenities. It's a free-form pool with three terraced spa tubs that extend 150 yards along the Caribbean. The hotel proudly displays pictures of the pool on its Web site, but I could find no correspondingly prominent warnings that it would be unavailable.

No one is judging Westin for closing its pool. Hotels are in an almost constant state of renovation, and as anyone with a pool in the back yard can probably tell you, they require a lot of maintenance. The problem is that Westin wasn't as upfront about the construction as they could be or as accommodating to your special needs.

Fortunately, you booked your honeymoon through a travel agent. A competent travel adviser should be able to fix a problem like this. After all, you're paying the agent a booking fee in exchange for the expertise. The agent should, at least theoretically, be working for you.

I might have leaned on your travel agent a little more. When Westin's “sorry” was unacceptable, your agent should have figured out a way of saving your honeymoon at no additional cost. Otherwise, you could have just booked your honeymoon online — which, by the way, I certainly do not recommend.


What else could Westin do? Under these circumstances, anything from upgrading your room to sending you to a comparable property without making you pay extra. Hotels often transfer guests — called “walking” in lodging industry parlance — to another property when they're oversold.

I contacted Westin on your behalf. It offered you a $20 per day hotel credit and two drink tickets for the duration of your stay, as well as an upgrade to a suite. It also credited your rewards account with enough points for a one-night stay. A generous offer — but still, no pool. You canceled your reservation and rebooked at the Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort & Casino without having to pay more. Your honeymoon is saved.

Christopher Elliott is the ombudsman for National Geographic Traveler magazine. You can read more travel tips on his blog, elliott.org or e-mail him at celliott@ngs.org.


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[caesu]

House of Commons unsatisfied with explanation Bijleveld about Aruba leak
10 Feb, 2009, 15:51 (GMT -04:00)

THE HAGUE – The House of Commons is not satisfied with the explanation which State Secretary Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (Kingdom relations, CDA) gave about the leaking out of confidential information of the Dutch representatives on Aruba. The majority of the political groups agree with the criticism of VVV-party member Johan Remkes, who found the letter ‘the least satisfactory’.

The State Secretary wrote to the House of Commons today that she will have the leaking out of the information on Aruba investigated. She cannot get ahead of the results, but has already takes some measures to prevent a possible repetition. In the letter she writes once more to find the case ‘extremely serious’. In the past week she has telephoned the Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber twice to try and straighten out the situation. Oduber will travel to the Netherlands in March. “Then we will naturally discuss the relationship between our two countries”, says Bijleveld.

SP-Member of parliament Ronald van Raak qualified the comments of Bijleveld as ‘appalling’. The House wants the State Secretary to give more clarity in a new letter. The political groups want to receive the additional comments before meeting with Bijleveld in the beginning of March to discuss the leaked out items, in which harsh words are stated about Aruban politicians.
State Secretary Bijleveld of Kingdom Relations has to do her homework, says House of Commons member Ronald van Raak of the Socialistic Party. Last week he requested an explanation about how the confidential information from the Dutch Representatives on Aruba could have gone public. He also wanted to know if the content was correct.

It is true that the State Secretary sent a letter to the House today, but according to Van Raak it does not contain sufficient information. “Actually she’s only announcing that an investigation has started”, says Van Raak. “She doesn’t mention one word about whether the content of the report is correct, so she needs to do her homework.” Van Raak also wants State Secretary to explain what the consequences are of Prime Minister Nelson Oduber stating that ‘irreparable damage’ has been done to the relationship between Aruba and The Netherlands.

Last week a confidential report by the Dutch Representatives in Oranjestad leaked out. It came into Aruban hands by accident. The weekly bulletin published incriminating statements about amongst others the Prime Minister, various ministers and their family members. Minister of Justices Croes was outraged and talked about espionage by the Netherlands.

No support emergency debate
The political parties now want the State Secretary to finish the investigation into the leak before the 3rd of March. On that day there will be a General Debate in the House where the incident will be discussed. PVV-party member Hero Brinkman finds the date too late. Today he asked for an emergency debate, but except from Rita Verdonk he did not get any support. “Now that we finally have a hold on this mafia-government on Aruba, the House doesn’t want to talk about it”, states a disappointed Brinkman. Van Raak however says: “There is no point, because she will then not be able to give any answers. Her investigation needs to be completed first.”

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52592.php

[caesu]

Rudy Croes has spoken again...

he wants the AIVD (Dutch intelligence service) spies to leave Aruba.

and he wants a public apology from The Netherlands about the leaked VNO-report.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article1147077.ece/Nederlandse_spionnen_moeten_weg_van_Aruba
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3228396/___Spionnen_moeten_weg_van_Aruba___.html?p=3,1
http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/6172590/Arubaanse-minister-eist-vertrek-AIVDers

for as long as there's no apology the tension will only rise.
but i don't think Bijleveld will issue such a apology for now.

she first has to satisfy the Dutch parliament with a another explanation about this VNO-report.

[Keepthefaith]

You there Jen3560??What can you make of this.Any relation to The Aruban Croes family?Didn't Kyle go to work for Fugro?Seems to be a member of CHATA?Let me know what you think.TIA


Fugro Curacao N.V.
Felipe Croes
Phone: 736-5456
Fax: 736-7656
fcroes@fugro.com
www.first-ib.com
Schottegatweg Oost 66

[Keepthefaith]

You there Jen3560??What can you make of this.Any relation to The Aruban Croes family?Didn't Kyle go to work for Fugro?Seems to be a member of CHATA?Let me know what you think.TIA


Fugro Curacao N.V.
Felipe Croes
Phone: 736-5456
Fax: 736-7656
fcroes@fugro.com
www.first-ib.com
Schottegatweg Oost 66

http://www.chata.org/about_us_members.php?cat=suppliers

Curacao Hospitality and Tourism Association

[Keepthefaith]

You there Jen3560??What can you make of this.Any relation to The Aruban Croes family?Didn't Kyle go to work for Fugro?Seems to be a member of CHATA?Let me know what you think.TIA


Fugro Curacao N.V.
Felipe Croes
Phone: 736-5456
Fax: 736-7656
fcroes@fugro.com
www.first-ib.com
Schottegatweg Oost 66

http://www.chata.org/about_us_members.php?cat=suppliers

Curacao Hospitality and Tourism Association

Mr. Paul Kok
Past President
Avila Beach Hotel

Have we ever heard this name?

[jen3560]

You there Jen3560??What can you make of this.Any relation to The Aruban Croes family?Didn't Kyle go to work for Fugro?Seems to be a member of CHATA?Let me know what you think.TIA


Fugro Curacao N.V.
Felipe Croes
Phone: 736-5456
Fax: 736-7656
fcroes@fugro.com
www.first-ib.com
Schottegatweg Oost 66

Yes - Kyle did a job this past summer in Norway for Fugro.

Also - Tim Trahan has a dive company (I think it's a dive comopany) that works out of Curacao.......or has excursions there - I don't remember which.

As for the Croes connection - I honestly have no idea.  Sorry!!

[Keepthefaith]

You there Jen3560??What can you make of this.Any relation to The Aruban Croes family?Didn't Kyle go to work for Fugro?Seems to be a member of CHATA?Let me know what you think.TIA


Fugro Curacao N.V.
Felipe Croes
Phone: 736-5456
Fax: 736-7656
fcroes@fugro.com
www.first-ib.com
Schottegatweg Oost 66

Yes - Kyle did a job this past summer in Norway for Fugro.

Also - Tim Trahan has a dive company (I think it's a dive comopany) that works out of Curacao.......or has excursions there - I don't remember which.

As for the Croes connection - I honestly have no idea.  Sorry!!

Thanx Jen.Just tryin to put a puzzle together.

[texasmom]

Another "spill" for Valero...

http://www.awe24.com/

Papiamentu translation:

——breaking news——
have one circunstancia owing to end of take lugar at valero, already cu the cayanan of san nicolas is all soil at azeta or diesel.... photograph at caminda come across

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52612.php

Google translation:

Netherlands: 'Everything done to Holloway case to be resolved'
11 Feb, 2009, 14:44 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY / THE HAGUE - The Netherlands has rederlijkerwijs "done everything the country could do to the case of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway to be resolved. According to State Secretary Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (Kingdom, CDA) in a letter to the Lower House that asked for more information.

Holloway disappeared in May 2005 and the case is still unsolved. There are currently two investigations into the missing case. The criminal investigation into the disappearance of the teenager and an investigation by the Agricultural Research to the allegations of Justice Minister Rudy Croes on the initial phase of the criminal investigation.
Croes in December accused former chief Jan van der Straaten research in the first ten days are corrupt. Due to his friendship with Paul van der Sloot, the father of the still suspect Joran van der Sloot.
The Public Ministry during this trial communications, writes Bijleveld to the Second Chamber.

The regime explains the woman 'effort' the Netherlands all have done in the Holloway case. In the initial phase, Dutch troops at the request of Aruba to help with the search. There are sniffer dogs, and Dutch F-16's with special cameras deployed. Aruba in September 2006 has again asked for assistance to the research by specialists in the Netherlands was assessed. This' review 'was sufficient for starting the investigation on Aruba to continue.
In 2007 and 2008 by the Dutch team with the Aruban colleagues conducted a follow-up study to outstanding 'scenarios'. According Bijleveld give "all necessary means' used, but also do not have a solution. At this moment, the Aruban police have research.

[texasmom]

TRUTH & JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!!!

bump

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Keepthefaith

Where is everybody?

 

If you are interested ... on Sunday evening I posted my paper regarding the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.  I created a thread in the Musing section by mistake.

THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.0


Magnolia ... thank you for your response regarding my document.

Hey ... I have no idea regarding Deepak Kalpoe words to Larry Garrison ... words that implied that Deepak claimed he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Maybe Monkeys on this thread can help out?

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

Hi Keepthefaith

Where is everybody?

 

If you are interested ... on Sunday evening I posted my paper regarding the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.  I created a thread in the Musing section by mistake.

THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.0


Magnolia ... thank you for your response regarding my document.

Hey ... I have no idea regarding Deepak Kalpoe words to Larry Garrison ... words that implied that Deepak claimed he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Maybe Monkeys on this thread can help out?

Janet

Don't know where everybody is at Janet.I've been looking into oil campanies..So when my name appears i may be in another window trying to put a puzzle together.I briefly read over the Kalpoe/Mcgraw document and it never ceases to amaze me how these POS have walked FREE.Again.Why is Paulus so F'ing imposrtant that they won't prosecute him!Looking for the needle in the haystack!

KEEPTHEFAITH

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hi Keepthefaith

Where is everybody?

 

If you are interested ... on Sunday evening I posted my paper regarding the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.  I created a thread in the Musing section by mistake.

THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.0


Magnolia ... thank you for your response regarding my document.

Hey ... I have no idea regarding Deepak Kalpoe words to Larry Garrison ... words that implied that Deepak claimed he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Maybe Monkeys on this thread can help out?

Janet

I have been in and out of here all day.  Having PC trouble...pages loading very slowly.  Am going to run a scan. 

Anyway, I read Magnolia's post about Garrison, and remember something being posted.  Maybe Klaas or Buckeye can find it faster than I.   It isn't in the Kalpoe/McGraw thread, that I could see earlier. 

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Keepthefaith

Where is everybody?

 

If you are interested ... on Sunday evening I posted my paper regarding the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.  I created a thread in the Musing section by mistake.

THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.0


Magnolia ... thank you for your response regarding my document.

Hey ... I have no idea regarding Deepak Kalpoe words to Larry Garrison ... words that implied that Deepak claimed he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Maybe Monkeys on this thread can help out?

Janet

Don't know where everybody is at Janet.I've been looking into oil campanies. So when my name appears i may be in another window trying to put a puzzle together.I briefly read over the Kalpoe/Mcgraw document and it never ceases to amaze me how these POS have walked FREE.Again.Why is Paulus so F'ing imposrtant that they won't prosecute him!Looking for the needle in the haystack!

KEEPTHEFAITH

Why?  I am sooo confused where all this research is headed.  Will the outcome of all this hard work determine what the truth regarding the motive behind the deception of the Persistence undertaking was all about?  Just wondering.

Anyways ... considering I am lost in regards to this topic and ... you all are on a roll ... I will be working behind the scenes on another document.  I do not want to be a distraction.  "My own little hide hole" is where it is at.

 

It is not all about Paulus van der Sloot although the guy is certainly connected.  It started out with Jan vander Straten doing a favor for a friend.

If Aruba had anticipated the determination of Natalee's mother ... Joran van der Sloot would have been selected as the sacrificial lamb from the getgo.  Joran was a minor and ... an "accidental" death as well as a "disposal of a body" ... would have implied a slay on the wrist in regards to accountability.

However ... by the time that Aruba realized that Beth Holloway was a force to be reckoned with ... it was too late ... a domino effect of those who would be held accountability ... not only for the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 but ... those involved in the coverup was far reaching.  It was too late to turn back.

IMO

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Latest in Search for Natalee Holloway
Aired October 4, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET

GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?

MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Beth Twitty
FOX NEW - MARTHA MACCALLUM
November 28, 2006

TWITTY: Well I think they will always have to look at there were two personnel involved from the Aruban Justice Department and that is why we do not have any evidence and that is what Joran’s attorney will have to be reminded of. It is because of Bob Witt and Ben King stopped the search warrants. It was made to initially search the entire area of Mon. 19 - the garden, the buildings and everything but on the spot a high ranking employee of the Justice Office, Bob Witt, reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran so that’s why we do not have any evidence because of involvement of the obstruction from the Aruban Justice Department personnel.

[johan555]

Nederland: 'Everything done to Holloway case to solve'
11 Feb, 2009, 14:44 (GMT -04:00)


AMBER CITY / DEN HAAG - Netherlands has rederlijkerwijs' done everything country could do every Case of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway to solve. That proposes Secretary Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (Kingdom, CDA) wrote to Second Room which requested details.

Holloway disappeared in May 2005 and seised still unresolved. There prejudging Currently two investigations in missing case. The criminal investigation the disappearance of teenager and research by Country Recherche to allegations minister Justice Rudy Croes on beginning phase criminal research.
Croes accused in December former chief Jan van der Straaten research in first ten days have corrupt. This because his friendship with Paul van der Sloot, father of the still suspicious Joran van der Sloot.
The Public Ministry during this research no Notices, writes Bijleveld to Second Room.

The reign woman explains welke 'efforts' Netherlands all hitherto done in Holloway case. In beginning phase Dutch soldiers at request Aruba helped with quest. Also his Dutch sniffer dogs and F-16 cars special cameras deployed. In September 2006 has Aruba again requested assistance thus investigation specialists Netherlands was reviewed. This' revision 'gave sufficient connecting to research Aruba forward.
In 2007 and 2008 by Dutch team with Aruban colleagues an vervolgonderzoek exported to outstanding 'scenarios'. According Bijleveld give 'all necessary resources' deployed but also have not one solution led. On pokriva Aruban police still research.

[Keepthefaith]

Hi Keepthefaith

Where is everybody?

 

If you are interested ... on Sunday evening I posted my paper regarding the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.  I created a thread in the Musing section by mistake.

THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.0


Magnolia ... thank you for your response regarding my document.

Hey ... I have no idea regarding Deepak Kalpoe words to Larry Garrison ... words that implied that Deepak claimed he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  Maybe Monkeys on this thread can help out?

Janet

Don't know where everybody is at Janet.I've been looking into oil campanies. So when my name appears i may be in another window trying to put a puzzle together.I briefly read over the Kalpoe/Mcgraw document and it never ceases to amaze me how these POS have walked FREE.Again.Why is Paulus so F'ing imposrtant that they won't prosecute him!Looking for the needle in the haystack!

KEEPTHEFAITH

Why?  I am sooo confused where all this research is headed.  Will the outcome of all this hard work determine what the truth regarding the motive behind the deception of the Persistence undertaking was all about?  Just wondering.

Anyways ... considering I am lost in regards to this topic and ... you all are on a roll ... I will be working behind the scenes on another document.  I do not want to be a distraction.  "My own little hide hole" is where it is at.

 

It is not all about Paulus van der Sloot although the guy is certainly connected.  It started out with Jan vander Straten doing a favor for a friend.

If Aruba had anticipated the determination of Natalee's mother ... Joran van der Sloot would have been selected as the sacrificial lamb from the getgo.  Joran was a minor and ... an "accidental" death as well as a "disposal of a body" ... would have implied a slay on the wrist in regards to accountability.

However ... by the time that Aruba realized that Beth Holloway was a force to be reckoned with ... it was too late ... a domino effect of those who would be held accountability ... not only for the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 but ... those involved in the coverup was far reaching.  It was too late to turn back.

IMO

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Latest in Search for Natalee Holloway
Aired October 4, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET

GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?

MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Beth Twitty
FOX NEW - MARTHA MACCALLUM
November 28, 2006

TWITTY: Well I think they will always have to look at there were two personnel involved from the Aruban Justice Department and that is why we do not have any evidence and that is what Joran’s attorney will have to be reminded of. It is because of Bob Witt and Ben King stopped the search warrants. It was made to initially search the entire area of Mon. 19 - the garden, the buildings and everything but on the spot a high ranking employee of the Justice Office, Bob Witt, reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran so that’s why we do not have any evidence because of involvement of the obstruction from the Aruban Justice Department personnel.

In regards to the outcome of the Persistence.Me personally.It was all about oil.Being able to pinpoint a contract in 2007 that would benefit Silvetti,Schaefer,and or Trahan is what i'm attempting to locate.Or.The value of what they were mapping.What's the price for an oil company down in that region,in regards to the ocean floor being mapped without anyone knowing?Hence,the guise,of the Natalee Holloway search.I do believe it was the GRAND-FINALE TO THE ARUBAN COVER-UP......

[wreck]

KTF:

In regards to the outcome of the Persistence.Me personally.It was all about oil.Being able to pinpoint a contract in 2007 that would benefit Silvetti,Schaefer,and or Trahan is what i'm attempting to locate.Or.The value of what they were mapping.What's the price for an oil company down in that region,in regards to the ocean floor being mapped without anyone knowing?Hence,the guise,of the Natalee Holloway search.I do believe it was the GRAND-FINALE TO THE ARUBAN COVER-UP......

I agree -- this goes a long way to explain the "indifference" of The Persistence crew. Finding Natalee was an "obstacle" -- not the "purpose"!

[Keepthefaith]

KTF:

In regards to the outcome of the Persistence.Me personally.It was all about oil.Being able to pinpoint a contract in 2007 that would benefit Silvetti,Schaefer,and or Trahan is what i'm attempting to locate.Or.The value of what they were mapping.What's the price for an oil company down in that region,in regards to the ocean floor being mapped without anyone knowing?Hence,the guise,of the Natalee Holloway search.I do believe it was the GRAND-FINALE TO THE ARUBAN COVER-UP......

I agree -- this goes a long way to explain the "indifference" of The Persistence crew. Finding Natalee was an "obstacle" -- not the "purpose"!

When you look at these companies.They buy,sell,lease-back,form new companies,subsidiaries.Very difficult to track most of the time.I wish i had more of a grasp of the ocean floors.Seems like Petrobras found a BIG gas deposit down off the eastern coast of Brazil.The water off of Venezuela,as well as Aruba has got to have some signifigance.The gas-pipeline?oil-pipeline?I think the tell-tale sign will potentially be who purchases the oil-refinery.Keep researching.All one can do!