Natalee Case Discussion #799 2/5/09 - 2/11/09

[Lifesong]

Spent some time thinking about the money laundering aspect.  Found a site called Ultimate Bets which blogged about a Million Dollar Poker tournament held in Aruba in the fall.  While there also found a participant had many photos on his flickr site.  One depicted the winner with bundles of cash in front of him.  (sorry, I didn't think to go find the links again before posting)

Just found this link, too.  It's not new, but found the money laundering and tax evasion explanations enlightening.

http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/1999/928.htm

It may all be an old hashed out topic, but I figured I'd put it out there. 

How would searching for Natalee help Schaeffer's cause in terms of his selling of stocks,as well as bankruptcy?By searching for Natalee was it easier for him to potentially launder,and or disguise what happened to the money?Just thoughts

The Persistence, sailing as a research vessel, would have been a good
hiding place to get the $22 million or so dollars to Aruban offshore banks.

And, Bingo!

[jen3560]

OK- so he wasn't there to search for Natalee at all?

According to the cng crew, she was secondary.

Of course, someone tried to come in and say that was all a ruse to flush out a leak - but considering the leak is STILL at that site.............and other details..........I just didn't believe that excuse.

[Keepthefaith]

OK- so he wasn't there to search for Natalee at all?

I think the fiasco surrounding the contents of the cage/trap lead me to believe exactly that!

[jen3560]

OK- so he wasn't there to search for Natalee at all?

I think the fiasco surrounding the contents of the cage/trap lead me to believe exactly that!

I think having found what was possibly Natalee so soon after they arrived might have been a hitch in their giddyup.

[Keepthefaith]

Spent some time thinking about the money laundering aspect.  Found a site called Ultimate Bets which blogged about a Million Dollar Poker tournament held in Aruba in the fall.  While there also found a participant had many photos on his flickr site.  One depicted the winner with bundles of cash in front of him.  (sorry, I didn't think to go find the links again before posting)

Just found this link, too.  It's not new, but found the money laundering and tax evasion explanations enlightening.

http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/1999/928.htm

It may all be an old hashed out topic, but I figured I'd put it out there. 

How would searching for Natalee help Schaeffer's cause in terms of his selling of stocks,as well as bankruptcy?By searching for Natalee was it easier for him to potentially launder,and or disguise what happened to the money?Just thoughts

The Persistence, sailing as a research vessel, would have been a good
hiding place to get the $22 million or so dollars to Aruban offshore banks.

And, Bingo!

As Bob Barker would say "Come on down Magnolia,your the next contestant on the Price is right!

[caesu]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

[Keepthefaith]

Spent some time thinking about the money laundering aspect.  Found a site called Ultimate Bets which blogged about a Million Dollar Poker tournament held in Aruba in the fall.  While there also found a participant had many photos on his flickr site.  One depicted the winner with bundles of cash in front of him.  (sorry, I didn't think to go find the links again before posting)

Just found this link, too.  It's not new, but found the money laundering and tax evasion explanations enlightening.

http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/1999/928.htm

It may all be an old hashed out topic, but I figured I'd put it out there. 

How would searching for Natalee help Schaeffer's cause in terms of his selling of stocks,as well as bankruptcy?By searching for Natalee was it easier for him to potentially launder,and or disguise what happened to the money?Just thoughts

The Persistence, sailing as a research vessel, would have been a good
hiding place to get the $22 million or so dollars to Aruban offshore banks.

And, Bingo!

Maybe,just maybe the FBI,as well as IRS are waiting to see some certain people's tax returns.You think?Be a great start.

[jen3560]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

That is GREAT news!!  Thank you caesu!

Does it go into detail or give specifics about their scandalous behavior?

This truly is the best news I've heard in a long, long time.  That the Netherlands have been looking into the corruption of the Aruban government is truly heartening!

[jen3560]

Spent some time thinking about the money laundering aspect.  Found a site called Ultimate Bets which blogged about a Million Dollar Poker tournament held in Aruba in the fall.  While there also found a participant had many photos on his flickr site.  One depicted the winner with bundles of cash in front of him.  (sorry, I didn't think to go find the links again before posting)

Just found this link, too.  It's not new, but found the money laundering and tax evasion explanations enlightening.

http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/1999/928.htm

It may all be an old hashed out topic, but I figured I'd put it out there. 

How would searching for Natalee help Schaeffer's cause in terms of his selling of stocks,as well as bankruptcy?By searching for Natalee was it easier for him to potentially launder,and or disguise what happened to the money?Just thoughts

The Persistence, sailing as a research vessel, would have been a good
hiding place to get the $22 million or so dollars to Aruban offshore banks.

And, Bingo!

Maybe,just maybe the FBI,as well as IRS are waiting to see some certain people's tax returns.You think?Be a great start.

 

[Keepthefaith]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

[jen3560]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

The PG...............the current PG?  Or one of the former PG's?

[jen3560]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Yes - Kyle said Silvetti was the one paying his invoices.

He also told us most were taking somewhere between .20 - .50 cents on the dollar for their time on the Persistence.

[Magnolia]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Kyle posted on this forum that he personally lost $15.000.
He didn't explain how.  Casino?

[jen3560]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Kyle posted on this forum that he personally lost $15.000.
He didn't explain how.  Casino?

Interesting...............considering he bought a new house last year.

[caesu]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

The PG...............the current PG?  Or one of the former PG's?

yes, the current PG.

the internal report leaked to Rudy is saying the PG, Rudy & Hendrik Croes, Oduber, Wever are all working together to intimidate and get in collision with The Netherlands.

if this is really an internal report from the Dutch government, and Rudy Croes is not making stuff up, this will be a major diplomatic row between Aruba and The Netherlands.

i am just waiting for the Dutch media to pick up on this. might take a few hours.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

[jen3560]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

OH dangit!!!  I actually know the answer to this one....................let me find it!!

[jen3560]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

caesu, I missed your previous post about this article, and just went and read it.

thank you for keeping us updated!

[Keepthefaith]

We're having a discussion Janet!

[jen3560]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02