Natalee Case Discussion #799 2/5/09 - 2/11/09

[jen3560]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

Another snippet from that article leads me to believe this timeshare was indeed used by others aside from Tim Miller:

"The search crew was planning to sleep on the search boat each night, but it only made sense that a hot shower and a comfortable bed at the timeshare makes it easier for them to maintain their stamina and focus," said Tremblay, whose company helps timeshare owners market and advertise their property as a timeshare rental or timeshare resale.

[Keepthefaith]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

When Kyle was off the Persistence in January didn't he stay at a hotel?

[2NJSons_Mom]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

I had known that, too, Jen, but was not thinking of the Persistence crew as TES team when I posted.  Is it near the hotels or in one of them?  Just thinking of Kyle's post about being on the beach, the boat, the site, etc.

[Magnolia]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

When Kyle was off the Persistence in January didn't he stay at a hotel?

He said the Holiday Inn.

[Keepthefaith]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

When Kyle was off the Persistence in January didn't he stay at a hotel?

He said the Holiday Inn.

If you had somewhere to stay for FREE.Why would you stay there?Can't be cheap if it wasn't FREE.Who owns the Holiday Inn?

[Lifesong]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Kyle posted on this forum that he personally lost $15.000.
He didn't explain how.  Casino?

Interesting...............considering he bought a new house last year.

And Schaeffer bought a $ 3.5 million in May 2007, the same month he contacted Dave Holloway.  I'll go dollars to doughnuts that rather than "losing half his fortune on the search for Natalee Holloway",  Schaeffer increased his overall personal financial position in both 2007 & 2008.  I would imagine 2009 may depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which are the lawsuits.

JMO & only MO

[Lifesong]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Kyle posted on this forum that he personally lost $15.000.
He didn't explain how.  Casino?

Interesting...............considering he bought a new house last year.

And Schaeffer bought a $ 3.5 million house in May 2007, the same month he contacted Dave Holloway.  I'll go dollars to doughnuts that rather than "losing half his fortune on the search for Natalee Holloway",  Schaeffer increased his overall personal financial position in both 2007 & 2008.  I would imagine 2009 may depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which are the lawsuits.

JMO & only MO

Edited my own post because my fingers were ignoring my brain.   

[Keepthefaith]

Kyle said Silvetti was paying his invoices.Was Kyle paid,take a pay-cut,will he use this as a tax write off as well?Jen?Any ideas.

How would this trip benefit everyone on the ship.You just don't leave families at home and go work for FREE for 4 months.I would think for the deckhands,as well as some of the crew!

Kyle posted on this forum that he personally lost $15.000.
He didn't explain how.  Casino?

Interesting...............considering he bought a new house last year.

And Schaeffer bought a $ 3.5 million house in May 2007, the same month he contacted Dave Holloway.  I'll go dollars to doughnuts that rather than "losing half his fortune on the search for Natalee Holloway",  Schaeffer increased his overall personal financial position in both 2007 & 2008.  I would imagine 2009 may depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which are the lawsuits.

JMO & only MO

Edited my own post because my fingers were ignoring my brain.   

Isn't that amazing how that works.Sell your stocks,company goes bankrupt,you buy a 3.7million dollar home,fund a multi-million dollar search out of the goodness of your heart?Why don't i buy that?

[2NJSons_Mom]

Wonder who paid for their lodging and meals when on shore....

As for losing $15K....guess we'd have to know how much Kyle normally earned while in these contract positions then do the math (20-50 cents to the dollar). 

I don't know if others aside from Tim Miller stayed there or not.............I would presume so, considering Tim was gone as of December 30th.

THEY HAD THE USE OF A 2-BEDROOM TIMESHARE THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM

DOVER — Chief executive officer of Sell My Timeshare Now, Jason Tremblay, is the first to say that no one should ever have to use timeshare resort property for a reason as sad as this one.

Tremblay's company is providing a two-bedroom timeshare to the members of the Texas-based search team, EquuSearch, who are in Aruba this week, continuing the search for Natalee Holloway, the American teenager who disappeared while on a school trip in 2005
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/BIZ/712190347/-1/rss02

When Kyle was off the Persistence in January didn't he stay at a hotel?

He said the Holiday Inn.

If you had somewhere to stay for FREE.Why would you stay there?Can't be cheap if it wasn't FREE.Who owns the Holiday Inn?

I just did a quick search and it appears that the HI has time shares available.  fwiw

Must go for a bit.  bbl 

[Tamikosmom]

We're having a discussion Janet!

Hi Keepthefaith.

You all are doing great research on this topic.  Considering ... I do not have any knowledge regarding the accounting end in regards to business tax deductions, etc. ... I do not have anything to contribute.  If you think I do ... just ask.  jen and wingnut are in a position to share related info that Kyle Kingman shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' site outside of what Kermit has sbmitted to the SM site.

I have made the decision to work on a document related to Phil McGraw/Kalpoe lawsuit.   I promise to share it with the forum upon completion.

Magnolia ... I am thankful that you are good at something.  That sweater you knitted me is keeping me toasty warm.  I am feeling hinky all over.

 

Later, Janet.

[Keepthefaith]

We're having a discussion Janet!

Hi Keepthefaith.

You all are doing great research on this topic.  Considering ... I do not have any knowledge regarding the accounting end in regards to business tax deductions, etc. ... I do not have anything to contribute.  If you think I do ... just ask.  jen and wingnut are in a position to share related info that Kyle Kingman shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' site outside of what Kermit has sbmitted to the SM site.

I have made the decision to work on a document related to Phil McGraw/Kalpoe lawsuit.   I promise to share it with the forum upon completion.

Magnolia ... I am thankful that you are good at something.  That sweater you knitted me is keeping me toasty warm.  I am feeling hinky all over.

 

Later, Janet.

Here's something crazy.I just had a customer talking about there fax machine acting up.Yep!They said it was acting Hinky..No Sh_T!Absolutely bizarre.....FWIW

[Tamikosmom]

We're having a discussion Janet!

Hi Keepthefaith.

You all are doing great research on this topic.  Considering ... I do not have any knowledge regarding the accounting end in regards to business tax deductions, etc. ... I do not have anything to contribute.  If you think I do ... just ask.  jen and wingnut are in a position to share related info that Kyle Kingman shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' site outside of what Kermit has sbmitted to the SM site.

I have made the decision to work on a document related to Phil McGraw/Kalpoe lawsuit.   I promise to share it with the forum upon completion.

Magnolia ... I am thankful that you are good at something.  That sweater you knitted me is keeping me toasty warm.  I am feeling hinky all over.

 

Later, Janet.

Here's something crazy.I just had a customer talking about there fax machine acting up.Yep!They said it was acting Hinky..No Sh_T!Absolutely bizarre.....FWIW

I do believe that "hinky" implies that something is wrong but ... I have adopted as a word to use in any situation when the "right word" just will not come.

The content of the sentence should reveal the intended meaning

 

Janet

[caesu]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

caesu, I missed your previous post about this article, and just went and read it.

thank you for keeping us updated!

by the way, Rudy Croes was supposed to be in The Netherlands this week.
for a tripartite meeting between the three justice ministers (Hirsch Ballin, David Dick, Rudy Croes).
but he didn't turn up in protest of not getting the higher court re-located to Aruba.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/politiek/car20090129_dick-imago
instead he schedules a press-conference and accuses the Dutch of espionage...


http://www.antilliaansdagblad.com/

[Magnolia]

We're having a discussion Janet!

Hi Keepthefaith.

You all are doing great research on this topic.  Considering ... I do not have any knowledge regarding the accounting end in regards to business tax deductions, etc. ... I do not have anything to contribute.  If you think I do ... just ask.  jen and wingnut are in a position to share related info that Kyle Kingman shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' site outside of what Kermit has sbmitted to the SM site.

I have made the decision to work on a document related to Phil McGraw/Kalpoe lawsuit.   I promise to share it with the forum upon completion.

Magnolia ... I am thankful that you are good at something.  That sweater you knitted me is keeping me toasty warm.  I am feeling hinky all over.

 

Later, Janet.

I am so glad you like your sweater, Janet.
Did you see Kermit's warm suit that he is going to wear for
his trip to the Frazer Valley?

[Tamikosmom]

We're having a discussion Janet!

Hi Keepthefaith.

You all are doing great research on this topic.  Considering ... I do not have any knowledge regarding the accounting end in regards to business tax deductions, etc. ... I do not have anything to contribute.  If you think I do ... just ask.  jen and wingnut are in a position to share related info that Kyle Kingman shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' site outside of what Kermit has sbmitted to the SM site.

I have made the decision to work on a document related to Phil McGraw/Kalpoe lawsuit.   I promise to share it with the forum upon completion.

Magnolia ... I am thankful that you are good at something.  That sweater you knitted me is keeping me toasty warm.  I am feeling hinky all over.

 

Later, Janet.

I am so glad you like your sweater, Janet.
Did you see Kermit's warm suit that he is going to wear for
his trip to the Frazer Valley?

I did miss the photo of Kermit in his outfit you knitted him for the trip to Canada.  When it is considered that winter is far from over ... Kermit is also going to feel "hinky" all over.

 

Janet

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg658537#msg658537

[Anna]

Accusing the Dutch of espionage sounds pretty serious.

Makes me wonder what they are doing that they think worthy of spying on?


 

[caesu]

Accusing the Dutch of espionage sounds pretty serious.

Makes me wonder what they are doing that they think worthy of spying on?


 

Rudy Croes is unbelievably stupid.
how he ever got that justice minister job is mingboggling.
Hendrik Croes and Oduber should keep him on a much shorter leash if they were smart, but i hope they don't.

if he didn't make fuss about this leaked internal report it would not have reached the media.
he always opens his mouth and causes trouble. but i hope he keeps doing that.

now everyone can read how the Dutch Governmental representation on Aruba thinks about the Aruban Government.
and it sounds to me a pretty close analysis. for example that Croes always tries to get in a fight with Netherlands.
right away Croes shows that the internal report is spot on by accusing the Dutch of espionage and throwing more insults.

and by saying "the Dutch are spying" on us. he is in fact acknowledging the information from "the Dutch CIA < his words" is correct.
he feels like he is caught red-handed.

now it already has hit the Dutch media.
http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Laatste-24-uur.htm?contentid=222569
http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article2024230.ece/_Aruba_woedend_over__spionage__van_Nederland_.html
http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/545527/aruba_woedend_over_spionage_van_nederland

let's wait if there comes more fall-out from this.
because this is just from a press agency (novum), no full news articles yet.

[Edward]

It is Absured, I had to laugh when I read that.

Aruba is a political crime Nest.. Corrupt people are swarming the island..

This is what they really need..

[Blue Moon]

i already touched on this in the previous thread:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4466.msg660298#msg660298

Aruba accuses The Netherlands of espionage

Oduber: irreparable damage between Aruba-Netherlands

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_52388.php

(i will translate if article won't appear in English soon)

Espionage??? Geez!!

this is going to be to biggest row between Aruba and The Netherlands in many years.

an internal report from the Dutch government has leaked. Rudy got this report.
it accuses Rudy, his brother Hendrik and Oduber and even the PG of scandalous behaviour.

caesu, I missed your previous post about this article, and just went and read it.

thank you for keeping us updated!

by the way, Rudy Croes was supposed to be in The Netherlands this week.
for a tripartite meeting between the three justice ministers (Hirsch Ballin, David Dick, Rudy Croes).
but he didn't turn up in protest of not getting the higher court re-located to Aruba.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/politiek/car20090129_dick-imago
instead he schedules a press-conference and accuses the Dutch of espionage...


http://www.antilliaansdagblad.com/

caesu, seem Rudy is pushing buttons isn't he?  How long will they let him get by pulling these stunts?

[Icehawk]

Quote from: Magnolia on Today at 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on Today at 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on Today at 12:48:33 PM
Spent some time thinking about the money laundering aspect.  Found a site called Ultimate Bets which blogged about a Million Dollar Poker tournament held in Aruba in the fall.  While there also found a participant had many photos on his flickr site.  One depicted the winner with bundles of cash in front of him.  (sorry, I didn't think to go find the links again before posting)

Just found this link, too.  It's not new, but found the money laundering and tax evasion explanations enlightening.

http://www.state.gov/p/inl/rls/nrcrpt/1999/928.htm

It may all be an old hashed out topic, but I figured I'd put it out there.

How would searching for Natalee help Schaeffer's cause in terms of his selling of stocks,as well as bankruptcy?By searching for Natalee was it easier for him to potentially launder,and or disguise what happened to the money?Just thoughts

The Persistence, sailing as a research vessel, would have been a good
hiding place to get the $22 million or so dollars to Aruban offshore banks.


Does Jossy own a bank?






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The Interbank is owned by the Mansur Family.