Caylee Marie Anthony #104 2/07/09 - 2/10/09

[wendiw8780]

I am no lawyer, but if this were the case, Sarah Palin would own the world. Just sayin. She would own NBC because of Tina Fey and SNL and she would own every late night talk show host, all the MSN. Can some smart monkey help me out here and explain if I am wrong? TIA JSM

Corrected by me. Should say MSM, I should learn to type better. 

Actually, because Sarah Palin was a public figure the proof of malice is WAY higher - that is why people get away with making fun of celebrities. Wonder if CinCin qualifies now?

Thanks Boyzmom. Why is there a difference, public vs private? I didn't read the whole story that was posted but wasn't one of the people a judge or a doctor or something. Wouldn't that be a "public" person. Cindy is PUBLIC now since she has been on every morning show, NG, GVS, etc? Can she sue me cause I think she has a mushroom head? Can KC sue me cause I say she is a slore? Can Lee sue me cause I made fun of his knee socks and shorts? If so, let them sue me! If they win, they can get all my assets. I have a dog that hey definately will not want, I have a car that is falling apart and that is about it! I say bring it on Cindy.   

The difference is not that public people can not get damages, but rather that the speech must be way over the top. What you may say about a normal person (like you or me) is much less than what you can say about a public figure - which is anyone that has a public persona by their choice - politicians, judges and movie/tv people meet that criteria. If you are famous because of something bad you did then it is not as protected. Also, there has to be real damages and the statement must be untrue. For example, saying that someone is black is not prohibited because it is a fact. Lying and saying they are Muslim is probably prohibited if they work in an area that may cause problems for them at their job. Saying someone committed a crime would likely cause them problems, and if not true, would cause a problem for the person that said it. This is one of the reasons that people like NG make a point of saying ALLEGED criminals. If they have not been convicted it would be a problem to say they are criminals. It is a pretty vague area of law governed on a case by case basis.
[/quote] Thanks Boyzmom, so the people that said the President was a muslim could or couldn't be sued? Not being political, but just asking cause I know that was a big thing during the Presidential race. Basically what I am asking is that why John McCain never brought it up because he thought he would be sued? TIA JSM
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JSM, you are in my thoughts & prayers! i am not sure what is going on with your health so i need to go back & catch up! i haven't been able to spend much time in the cage lately! also lucinda, i am thinking & praying for you & everyone that has posted! i am sorry if this doesn't make much sense, but i am honestly so tired i really am having trouble thinking! maybe after i eat i will be able to talk intelligently! (maybe) also, does anyone know if JOY/SARA are deleting posts-more than usual?????!!!! i was trying to read over there cause it doesn't take any thinking & also it cracks me up & i really need that! tia.

wendi

[Foggy Dew]

Good evening monkeys,

I've been catching up all day and can't possibly respond to everyone I want to, so I'll just ask a question.

Does anyone think Lee might not attend the memorial because there's a warrant out for him and he knows it?  I think LE will be monitoring who attends (or maybe I've watched too many episodes of The Sopranos). If he's there, they could arrest him afterwards or at least tail him.

I think its possible he may already be planning to turn State's evidence against the alleged perp.  Maybe he's already turned.  Well, that's my fondest wish anyhow. 

[islandmonkey]

http://www.westborobaptistchurch....090206_caylee-anthony-funeral.pdf

They plan to picket.

Here's another article listed under their picket schedule from their web site.

"First Baptist Church of Orlando - You Hate little Caylee! 3000 S. John Young Parkway For several weeks/months now this nation has been worshiping at the metaphorical graveside of a little girl named Caylee Anthony. HOW DARE YOU, YOU HYPOCRITES! It is YOUR FAULT the little baby girl is dead and you have the nerve to criticize the one who no doubt killed her? You taught your children that God is a liar when you told them that God loves everyone. That God loves you just like you are. That God didn't make no junk! Now you all with one voice RAGE against the one responsible, the simple slut mother who you taught to HATE little Caylee. You tell your females that abortion is not murder, and that it is okay to be gay (a f**) so what other possible message was this girl to get? Therefore, WBC will picket this worship service of the long gone little girl. Of a truth, what this "mother" did to that child is far kinder than what her mother did (and still does)to her. THIS is what they should have taught this little tart: Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, BUT THEY REFUSED! So, now THIS is what the DOOMED american whore mothers/grandmothers must teach their daughters: Jeremiah 9:20 Yet hear the word of the LORD, O ye women, and let your ear receive the word of his mouth, and teach your daughters wailing, and every one her neighbour lamentation. IT IS A CURSE when your child is slaughtered and left in a shallow grave in a trash bag, and you do this to your children every day because YOU HATE YOUR CHILDREN! All from the hand of God because God Hates america! AMEN! P.S. Tell that stupid grandfather to get a grip and next time he "tries" to kill himself, to just MAN UP and do the job right this time! Either way he's going to hell."

http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html

Their web site is http://www.godhatesfags.com  (nice name for a church)

I could be wrong because I didn't go to their website, but this sounds like the same "church" that pickets our fallen soldiers funerals

[wendiw8780]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP69IpUmOOM&feature=related

Have you monkeys seen this one?? it shows what looks like JB slipping something to KC in court.

OMG!!!! it does! her eyes are looking down & her body language looks so strange! i have to watch it again.

wendi

[cherjers]

I don't want to be the unpopular monkey but I really feel like this bashing Cindy thing is going a bit too far. I don't think anyone can be absolutely certain that Cindy was the horrible person she is being made out to be. Sure she could have been all that and more but we really don't know for sure. What we do know is that her spiteful daughter took Cindy's grandchild's precious life and threw it on the roadside like garbage and I think any actions by this family that must be heartbroken whether rational or not can be overlooked. Many families in similar positions have started foundations in honor of the children they have lost and many feel indebted to the organizations that helped them during their time of need. Sure we think KF is a blemish on the good reputation of these types of organizations but I do understand why Cindy and George don't see them like that. With Cindy's need to live in denial (which I don't like but won't condemn her for) she must have felt very alone during these really tough times in her life. She has been as hated and as vilified as her daughter but she never did any harm to Caylee only cared and provided for her. I think people forget that Cindy wasn't rich and that this care came from Cindy working damn hard with little to no help from anyone else in the family. Certainly not from her evil daughter. If she wants to continue with charitable works then I don't see the prob with that. I don't have to like th woman to feel empathy for her. Sorry if I seem to be ranting but I think somewhere along the way when Caysee was taken out of the firing line (out of sight and all that) people decided to turn on the next best thing and I wonder if we ever stopped to think about the fact we are united here to honour Caylee and she would not like to see her gran being vilified imo. it would make her little heart cry.

Good morning all,

At times I have felt like you Sharlock...but at other times like now I wonder.  If Tim Miller is an unwelcome guest at the memorial wouldn't that indicate that Cindy has not yet conceeded that searching for Caylee was a good idea.  Would she have preferred leaving Caylee in the woods forever?  If she believed Caylee was being held captive by a roaming babysitter than why wouldn't she want Tim and TES to search for her?   Seems all those people out searching in plain sight would have hindered the kidnappers ability to kill and depose of Caylee, certainly not enable it.    I can't help but think that Cindy's denial was geared more towards protecting Casey than towards protecting or finding Caylee.  JMO

I agree with you on that. Finding the body has rendered more evidence that can be linked to the A's house. It has ended the "Caylee is alive" which could go on for years. I personally would want closure if I didn't know what had happened to my grandchild...unless I was protecting my daughter.

I agree with you also in a way. I am not defending all of Cindy's actions though. Only asking that people consider what Caylee would think of the things being said about her grandma and remember that for all of her failings Cindy worked really hard to give Caylee everything she could. I believe that no matter what she does in her crazed grief stricken state she loved Caylee and should be given a break from the really nasty public beating she has gotten since her grandchild went missing. Yes Cindy stirred the hornets nest and I don't blame people for being angry with her but in the end she did not hurt Caylee only loved her and now she has lost her.

Sharlock I just posted a negative post about Cindy-After reading your post I am sorry I did.  You are right she loved Caylee-but she does rub me the wrong way.

[wendiw8780]

Credit SeaSearcher for the link:   http://www.wftv.com/news/18667721/detail.html


Am I the only one who feels this "obituary" falls flat.  I don't really  "hear" any real emotion in it.  And to even mention Kidsfinders network, grrr....  It sounds like an announcement for the Foundation more than anything.  This Cindy never ceases to amaze me. 

So now it is an obiturary instead of an eulogy. It does fall flat, and it doesn't sound like she wrote it, Michelle Bart anyone?

NRCG! I'm assuming you're joking. When I read this earlier, I could tell that Cindy did NOT write this, and neither did any of the PR folks they've been involved with. Though you could see Cindy's direction behind it, this contained mainly complete sentences, logical paragraphs, clear punctuation, and words used appropriately. These are not hallmarks of much we've seen from them so far.

Not everyone is a good writer or editor, and that's ok. But don't put yourself out there as a PR rep/spokesperson if you don't have these skills!!!

Ok, rant over. Sorry. BIG pet peeve of mine.

Yes, I think their lawyer had a hand in helping write this obituary.

definetly (sp??? sorry tired) GREASY BART!!!!!

wendi

[Foggy Dew]

Credit SeaSearcher for the link:   http://www.wftv.com/news/18667721/detail.html


Am I the only one who feels this "obituary" falls flat.  I don't really  "hear" any real emotion in it.  And to even mention Kidsfinders network, grrr....  It sounds like an announcement for the Foundation more than anything.  This Cindy never ceases to amaze me. 

I think it sounds more like a presentation than an obituary but I've only ever read one or two so I'm probably not a good judge...the only ones I've read were short and all about the person who is deceased and the family "survived by"..usually just names only...this sounds more like a tribute to me...I dunno

Obits come in many makes and models.

In some areas, its costs dearly to insert one so that's why some are often merely a statement of DOD, surviving loved ones, scheduled service locale and times etc.  Folks who can afford to do so can wax poetic and at great length if they choose to buy the column space.  But generally, obits are a statement of facts and don't often go into the detail that the spoken eulogy at the funeral or memorial service that goes into details (memories) about the deceased that bring on fond thoughts and tears.

Foggy

[BabsKats]

Anyone out there watching LP, pretty informative!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/leonard-padilla-live

[wendiw8780]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP69IpUmOOM&feature=related

Have you monkeys seen this one?? it shows what looks like JB slipping something to KC in court.

OMG!!!! it does! her eyes are looking down & her body language looks so strange! i have to watch it again.

wendi

i just went back to watch it & it says it is no longer available! is it my computer or what???? tia.

wendi

[BabsKats]

Its live, had some audio problems in the beginning, started about 15 minutes late

[Foggy Dew]

Credit SeaSearcher for the link:   http://www.wftv.com/news/18667721/detail.html


Am I the only one who feels this "obituary" falls flat.  I don't really  "hear" any real emotion in it.  And to even mention Kidsfinders network, grrr....  It sounds like an announcement for the Foundation more than anything.  This Cindy never ceases to amaze me. 

Cindy is her worst enemy-she should keep her mouth shut.  Caylee death had a purpose-what purpose could it have -its not heard to see how KC is so cold and heartless.  Is anyone in that family capable of real emotion.  I would never want to walk in their shoes -put you start to pity them and cindy writes something like that.  Cant anyone shut her up- cant blame George if he did try to kill himself-living with cindy must be hell on earth.  Thank God   Satan daughter is sitting in jail-now KC sitting in jail has a purpose

What really got me was the last bit about Caylee being an angel and watching over other kids now.

WHO WAS HER ANGEL YOU SUPERFREAKS?  GUESS YOU MISSED THE MEMO THAT HER ANGEL(S) SHOULD HAVE BEEN HER "MOM" OR HER KIN...

[no rose colored glasses]

IslandMonkey you are right that is the same church that pickets the fallen soldiers, they are nothing but trouble.

[Kat_Gram]

I was wondering whne the Westbury Baptist PPL would surface. They tried to get into Canada to make a statement at a funeral here. Most of them were denied entry at the border. Private citizens with police formed a guard around the church to prevent them from getting anywhre near the funeral service. They were a no show, no disruption.
OMG How horrible to have these folks rearing hteir ugly heads.

[islandmonkey]

IslandMonkey you are right that is the same church that pickets the fallen soldiers, they are nothing but trouble.

I figured it was probably the one My step-son, whom I raised since 2nd grade is in the army and will most likely be sent to Afghanistan in April, and to picket our soldiers/heros funeral is beyond despicable!

[klaasend]

I saw a program about those people and their founders.  THEY'RE NUTS, imo

[O4Bull]

Anyone out there watching LP, pretty informative!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/leonard-padilla-live

yes, I'm listening but the audio is driving me batty

[no rose colored glasses]

I saw a program about those people and their founders.  THEY'RE NUTS, imo

Nuts and dangerous.

[O4Bull]

I was wondering whne the Westbury Baptist PPL would surface. They tried to get into Canada to make a statement at a funeral here. Most of them were denied entry at the border. Private citizens with police formed a guard around the church to prevent them from getting anywhre near the funeral service. They were a no show, no disruption.
OMG How horrible to have these folks rearing hteir ugly heads.

oh, as much as I can't stand the anthony's I wouldn't wish this on them.  that group is EVIL

[O4Bull]

Leonard: he found a tip of a fingernail (but LP forgot he hid it) LOL
(when asked if Henry Lee found more hair in the trunk)   

[O4Bull]

Leonard: he found a tip of a fingernail (but LP forgot he hid it) LOL
(when asked if Henry Lee found more hair in the trunk)   

clarifying my post:  LP said that about the Spector case