Natalee Case Discussion #800 2/11 - 2/18/09

[jen3560]

I know we were aware of the purchase and leaseback.

I just didn't know if we were aware the ship was under construction in the Netherlands for Superior - ie, Shaefer at the time of the contract.

And maybe I'm the only one who didn't realize that. 

[caesu]

off-topic

the public prosecutor on Bonaire has demanded life imprisonment for Ryan Pieters.

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2009/februari/17/justitie-bonaire-eist-levenslang-tegen-ryan-p.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.new#new

[2NJSons_Mom]

I know we were aware of the purchase and leaseback.

I just didn't know if we were aware the ship was under construction in the Netherlands for Superior - ie, Shaefer at the time of the contract.

And maybe I'm the only one who didn't realize that. 

WE HAVE YOU COVERED.   SORRY FOR THE UPPER CASE...ON SON'S COMPUTER WITH MINI KEYBOARD.  I CAN'T STAND IT.

[Edward]

Project Manager Marc Broussard said, "We met the Holloway family and as parents ourselves we wanted to help out, give our all and give them the Cajun spirit to motivate them to go out there, to find this child and bring her home."

The one hundred and twenty five foot boat is usually used for off-shore mapping and navigation for oil companies. Now the boat will take on a different role.

The trip is funded through donations.

http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=7429813

A Kemah businessman has been on the front lines of the search for Natalee, spending over a million dollars of his own money. Over the past four months, he's paid for an underwater search.

The morning we were there, Louis Schafer was signing a wire transfer for $250,000. The money used to operate a sophisticated, deep sea survey boat, named the Persistence.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=5935135





Kemah businessman, Louis Schafer, has personally spent in excess of a million dollars over the last four months funding a sophisticated, deep sea survey boat, named the Persistence. This aptly named ship, and her wonderful crew, have surveyed the entire 50-square miles area off Aruba. Schafer says, "We have identified at least 60 of the targets. We have about 150 more targets to inspect." Any one of those remaining 150 "targets" could be the remains of our missing American teenager. He went on to say, "We have completely mapped the ocean floor, we know every object that's there, we know every object that could be a container holding her in the sea."

Unfortunately, right now... with the recovery of Natalee within our grasp, the money has run out.
http://www.meridianstar.com/opinion/local_story_062005533.html

1 Million dollars from Silvetti including a wire transfer of 250,000.00  AND ALL THE DONATIONS DAVE COULD Provide.

NOT A DIME MENTIONED FROM BETH ... Not a penny !!

Never the less..
The amount of money spent for the Persistence does not add up to one million dollars and all the money donated to the Holloway's..

Then you have to consider the fact that some oil company has also paid Silvetti to Map that ocean floor off Aruba.
The captain did not have to be informed of that nor did anybody on that boat need to be informed of that.. Some oil company stripped the Holloway's of ALL there donation money to help fund their own ocean floor mapping expedition off Aruba.
I think Silvetti got ALL of his One Million back..
Beth never spent a dime of money donated her way.. She uses that for her own mission.

Yet Silvetti says we are out of money... WHO pulled his string ?

Any way I cut this up it does looked rigged to strip the Holloway's of donation money..

Beth has stayed out of this... Yet the Frog says she works with Beth's knowlege and understanding of the frogs mission ...


Very interesting Indeed.. This is as Hinky as it gets.. 
jmho

Let me clarify that statement about moi.
I know what I have been working on.
Beth was told what I have been working on.
Therefore, I know what I know.
Does that help.
heh heh
 

Thank You..
I was getting the impression that Beth was fully informed on Silvetti through you and that SHE is sending "Free Birds" soldiers into battle against Evil Oil people in the Oceans of the Atlantic and Caribbean, and one from Texas who may have and appear to have conspired with Large Scale Aruban business people to strip Dave Holloway of his donation money and limiting his ability to search for answers into the disappearance of his/their daughter Natalee Holloway. I would think that would be ALL by design.

I have to keep my imagination under control so as I do not get to impressionised by my thoughts.. 

[oldiebutgoodie]

One of the (many) sources that Kermit posted mentioned, "Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source."

And other posters have mentioned the "reporter" who seems to be presenting as fact the notion that Natalee is to blame for her own death because she took drugs and alcohol.

Purely for the sake of argument here (and please don't think that I really think this), even if Natalee was the kind of teenager who liked to dabble in drugs or binge on alcohol, is this reporter or anyone else who thinks Natalee brought about her own death by excessive drug usage also claiming that Natalee was a MORON?

This was a brilliant girl who was well thought of by her peers and her community who had just sucessfully completed her high school career and graduated. This is not a moron. This is one smart young lady.

Given that, even if Natalee had experimented with drugs, why would such a smart girl take some unknown-to-her substance from a perfect stranger and imbibe it to the point of killing herself with it?

It's..not..logical. It doesn't make sense. When something just flies in the face of logic, the bullsh*t meter should be off the scale.

I think it's possible that all the high school girls, wanting to look sophisticated and on their own in a foreign country, might have had a drink in hand. I say it's possible, not a proven fact. Just possible. That's all.

Even so, that doesn't mean any of those girls were habitual drunks or drug abusers. But even if they were, don't you think the old warning all our Moms gave us when we were little about not taking candy from strangers might translate to "Don't take drugs from horny young guys in bars in foreign countries" when those girls got older?

Does anyone here think Natalee was such a moron that she couldn't have figured that out?

It's simply not credible at all to me that Natalee ever voluntarily participated in any activity that brought about her own death. If she had drugs in her system (which we will never know), then they got there by stealth and without her knowledge.

So why would a "reporter," an investigator of fact, publish such drivel and not even posit it as a question but publish it as established fact there is no evidence that Natalee brought about her own death. Why would any "reporter" report such crap? What is their agenda for doing so?

It troubles me that Natalee seemingly went willingly or at least showed no struggle over getting into the car with Joran and the Kalpoes. I have to wonder if at that point if some drug had already been slipped into her drink.

And even if she went willingly, it also bothers me that the rest of the American girls there, her school friends, let her go. At least one of them must have seen her go.

I used to go out karaoke singing and all of us were like a community of friends and we looked out for each other. If one of the girls looked to be leaving with a man we'd never seen before, they didn't get out the door until the stranger was checked out by the rest of us.

So it's been hard for me to understand how Natalee just slipped away with Joran without at least one of her friends qestioning it.

[jen3560]

I know we were aware of the purchase and leaseback.

I just didn't know if we were aware the ship was under construction in the Netherlands for Superior - ie, Shaefer at the time of the contract.

And maybe I'm the only one who didn't realize that. 

WE HAVE YOU COVERED.   SORRY FOR THE UPPER CASE...ON SON'S COMPUTER WITH MINI KEYBOARD.  I CAN'T STAND IT.

    Just as long as you're not yelling at me!!!   

[johan555]

Last news from Bonaire  (marlies vd Kouwe case )

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.new#new

[Lifesong]

One of the (many) sources that Kermit posted mentioned, "Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source."

And other posters have mentioned the "reporter" who seems to be presenting as fact the notion that Natalee is to blame for her own death because she took drugs and alcohol.

Purely for the sake of argument here (and please don't think that I really think this), even if Natalee was the kind of teenager who liked to dabble in drugs or binge on alcohol, is this reporter or anyone else who thinks Natalee brought about her own death by excessive drug usage also claiming that Natalee was a MORON?

This was a brilliant girl who was well thought of by her peers and her community who had just sucessfully completed her high school career and graduated. This is not a moron. This is one smart young lady.

Given that, even if Natalee had experimented with drugs, why would such a smart girl take some unknown-to-her substance from a perfect stranger and imbibe it to the point of killing herself with it?

It's..not..logical. It doesn't make sense. When something just flies in the face of logic, the bullsh*t meter should be off the scale.

I think it's possible that all the high school girls, wanting to look sophisticated and on their own in a foreign country, might have had a drink in hand. I say it's possible, not a proven fact. Just possible. That's all.

Even so, that doesn't mean any of those girls were habitual drunks or drug abusers. But even if they were, don't you think the old warning all our Moms gave us when we were little about not taking candy from strangers might translate to "Don't take drugs from horny young guys in bars in foreign countries" when those girls got older?

Does anyone here think Natalee was such a moron that she couldn't have figured that out?

It's simply not credible at all to me that Natalee ever voluntarily participated in any activity that brought about her own death. If she had drugs in her system (which we will never know), then they got there by stealth and without her knowledge.

So why would a "reporter," an investigator of fact, publish such drivel and not even posit it as a question but publish it as established fact there is no evidence that Natalee brought about her own death. Why would any "reporter" report such crap? What is their agenda for doing so?

It troubles me that Natalee seemingly went willingly or at least showed no struggle over getting into the car with Joran and the Kalpoes. I have to wonder if at that point if some drug had already been slipped into her drink.

And even if she went willingly, it also bothers me that the rest of the American girls there, her school friends, let her go. At least one of them must have seen her go.

I used to go out karaoke singing and all of us were like a community of friends and we looked out for each other. If one of the girls looked to be leaving with a man we'd never seen before, they didn't get out the door until the stranger was checked out by the rest of us.

So it's been hard for me to understand how Natalee just slipped away with Joran without at least one of her friends qestioning it.

I maintain that Joran had consistently represented himself to the MB group as a visitor to Aruba, also staying at the Holiday Inn.  If she went willingly, she thought she was going to her hotel.  If her friends let her go, they also thought she was going back to their hotel.

JMO and only MO.

[Keepthefaith]

Caribbean Mercatile Bank hosts a Mega Party for Bill, Joy, Javier & Sylvia
 Business     July 9th, 2008
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Members of the Maduro & Curiel Banking group bid farewell to retiring Canadian-born banker Bill Carson, General Managing Director, Caribbean Mercatile Bank, the group’s financial institute in Aruba, while congratulating veteran Managing Director Javier Wolter on the addition of General to his job description, and business cards, as Bill’s successor.

http://www.aruba.com/news/business/caribbean-mercatile-bank-hosts-a-mega-party-for-bill-joy-javier-sylvia/

[Blonde]

I think Kermit(Aka Secret service agent)had a great post yesterday and i think it was the furthest thing from being on a soap-box.Don't you ldstlou??

[Keepthefaith]

Blonde.I think reposting the background of Marco's,Hans,as well as Ko Van Der sloot is very interesting!Nothing better then having the brother laundering the VVD parties money???Is this how they fund their party?

[Tamikosmom]

I maintain that Joran had consistently represented himself to the MB group as a visitor to Aruba, also staying at the Holiday Inn.  If she went willingly, she thought she was going to her hotel.  If her friends let her go, they also thought she was going back to their hotel.

JMO and only MO.

THE REVELATION - JORAN IS NOT A TOURIST

Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

Page 39:  Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.

[Tamikosmom]

Thank You..
I was getting the impression that Beth was fully informed on Silvetti through you and that SHE is sending "Free Birds" soldiers into battle against Evil Oil people in the Oceans of the Atlantic and Caribbean, and one from Texas who may have and appear to have conspired with Large Scale Aruban business people to strip Dave Holloway of his donation money and limiting his ability to search for answers into the disappearance of his/their daughter Natalee Holloway. I would think that would be ALL by design.

I have to keep my imagination under control so as I do not get to impressionised by my thoughts.. 

EDWARD ... A REMINDER IN A NUTSHELL!!

klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
 
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator

Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

[Tamikosmom]

Thank You..
I was getting the impression that Beth was fully informed on Silvetti through you and that SHE is sending "Free Birds" soldiers into battle against Evil Oil people in the Oceans of the Atlantic and Caribbean, and one from Texas who may have and appear to have conspired with Large Scale Aruban business people to strip Dave Holloway of his donation money and limiting his ability to search for answers into the disappearance of his/their daughter Natalee Holloway. I would think that would be ALL by design.

I have to keep my imagination under control so as I do not get to impressionised by my thoughts.. 

Edward ... a reminder in a nutshell!!

Janet

+++++

klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
 
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator

Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

[Tamikosmom]

OOPS!!!

[Buckeye]

off-topic

the public prosecutor on Bonaire has demanded life imprisonment for Ryan Pieters.

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2009/februari/17/justitie-bonaire-eist-levenslang-tegen-ryan-p.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.new#new

It is about time that they consider the social ramifications regarding sentencing. They need to send a warning and a message. There is no deterrent to people helping their friends dispose of, by burning or the sea or whatever, the friend's victim (six months for disposal).

[Buckeye]

One of the (many) sources that Kermit posted mentioned, "Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source."

And other posters have mentioned the "reporter" who seems to be presenting as fact the notion that Natalee is to blame for her own death because she took drugs and alcohol.

Purely for the sake of argument here (and please don't think that I really think this), even if Natalee was the kind of teenager who liked to dabble in drugs or binge on alcohol, is this reporter or anyone else who thinks Natalee brought about her own death by excessive drug usage also claiming that Natalee was a MORON?

This was a brilliant girl who was well thought of by her peers and her community who had just sucessfully completed her high school career and graduated. This is not a moron. This is one smart young lady.

Given that, even if Natalee had experimented with drugs, why would such a smart girl take some unknown-to-her substance from a perfect stranger and imbibe it to the point of killing herself with it?

It's..not..logical. It doesn't make sense. When something just flies in the face of logic, the bullsh*t meter should be off the scale.

I think it's possible that all the high school girls, wanting to look sophisticated and on their own in a foreign country, might have had a drink in hand. I say it's possible, not a proven fact. Just possible. That's all.

Even so, that doesn't mean any of those girls were habitual drunks or drug abusers. But even if they were, don't you think the old warning all our Moms gave us when we were little about not taking candy from strangers might translate to "Don't take drugs from horny young guys in bars in foreign countries" when those girls got older?

Does anyone here think Natalee was such a moron that she couldn't have figured that out?

It's simply not credible at all to me that Natalee ever voluntarily participated in any activity that brought about her own death. If she had drugs in her system (which we will never know), then they got there by stealth and without her knowledge.

So why would a "reporter," an investigator of fact, publish such drivel and not even posit it as a question but publish it as established fact there is no evidence that Natalee brought about her own death. Why would any "reporter" report such crap? What is their agenda for doing so?

It troubles me that Natalee seemingly went willingly or at least showed no struggle over getting into the car with Joran and the Kalpoes. I have to wonder if at that point if some drug had already been slipped into her drink.

And even if she went willingly, it also bothers me that the rest of the American girls there, her school friends, let her go. At least one of them must have seen her go.

I used to go out karaoke singing and all of us were like a community of friends and we looked out for each other. If one of the girls looked to be leaving with a man we'd never seen before, they didn't get out the door until the stranger was checked out by the rest of us.

So it's been hard for me to understand how Natalee just slipped away with Joran without at least one of her friends qestioning it.

I maintain that Joran had consistently represented himself to the MB group as a visitor to Aruba, also staying at the Holiday Inn.  If she went willingly, she thought she was going to her hotel.  If her friends let her go, they also thought she was going back to their hotel.

JMO and only MO.

Exactly...and we have a thread with postings from her friends.  The people that knew Natalee all stated this was out of character.  Even Joran said, in his book, he portrayed a tourist.  Naive friends maybe, neglectful...never..

[Buckeye]

IIRC....Maaike Ruepert
is the "reporter" that wrote the article(s) regarding Paulus (?and the judges) involvement in porn and prostitution.  Those were pretty good....

[Tamikosmom]

Speaking of Louis Schaefer, here's an interesting little hit off the timeline:


12/18/2006
Superior Offshore International has announced the acquisition of Subtech Diving and Marine Pty Ltd in Durban, South Africa.  Subtech’s role in the group is to support the international contracting entities within the group structure in a planned expansion programme by Superior to enter other international markets.

04/20/2007
Initial Public Offering of Superior Offshore Int’l; raised $152 million

05/2007
Schaeffer contacts Dave Holloway

08/14/2007
After defendants and other Company insiders liquidated over $49 million of their personally held shares -- Superior Offshore begins revealing the truth about the Company problems existing at the IPO on 04/20/2007

09/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa is appointed as a major subcontractor to the Dredging International/Group 5 Consortium which has been awarded the DHEW (Durban Harbor Entrance Widening & Deepening contract) in Durban, South Africa.

11/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa has purchased a Modular Jack-Up Barge which is expected to significantly enhance the company’s capacity in terms of inshore civil marine operations.

11/14/2007
Superior Offshore shares decline again after defendants belatedly revealed that the Company was operating even below its recently revised forecasts, and that its core business was operating even worse than previously disclosed.

12/15/2007
Persistence arrived at Aruba

12/2007
Persistence meets with ALE Detective & his brother with a "vision", giving latitude of cage

12/30/2007
Tim Trahan's "No, nothing," dive.  Dateline & Tim Miller off the ship.

01/07/2008
ALE divers retrieve contents of the cage.

01/09/2008
Superior Offshore announced that it was suspending its prior substantially downward revised guidance. (Last date of stock purchases included in class action suits)

01/22/2008 HOUSTON, Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Superior Offshore
International, Inc. (Nasdaq: DEEP) today announced that it has completed the
sale and charter-back of the Superior Achiever with Hornbeck Offshore Services
LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Hornbeck Offshore Services, Inc. (NYSE: HOS)

02/2008
The previous owners of Subtech Diving and Marine have negotiated the buy back of Superior Offshore South Africa from Superior Offshore International Inc.

03/03/2008
Persistence leaves Aruba

 

Comprehension at a glance.  Thank you Lifesong.

Has any research revealed any contracts or incentives awarded to Schaefer/Silvetti that could have taken place during the period of the above timeline?

The Persistence undertaking may have been deceptively two fold but, affording John Silvetti the benefit of the doubt, I believe he went into this venture with the intention of being an active  participant in the recovery of Natalee Holloway's remains in the event of a discovery.  However, sometime between the discovery of the trap/cage and the December 30, 2008 dive, the Arubans became involved

I contend after the Arubans were made aware of the implication of the ROV images from the December 29, 2007 dive ... immediate damage control was where it was at and ... an emergency meeting was held aboard the Persistence.

Think about it ... the Dateline dive was scheduled for the next day.  I suspect that just prior to the second dive on December 30, 2007 ... an emergency meeting was scheduled by the Aruban with John Silvetti.  I speculate that at this meeting ... justice for Natalee Holloway and ... closurer for her family too a back seat and ... for an incentive ... John Silvetti became a participant in "the finale to the great Aruban coverup".  Considering Tim Trahan dove with the Aruban dive team on December 30, 2008 ... I contend that this American also became a player in the betrayal.  In otherwords ... the "thumbs down" was a given.

IMO

Janet

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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle: I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment

Kyle: I know Tim believed me and was convinced 100% which is why he went and told Dave that we found Natalee on Dec 29th. John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis to arrange the next dive -Dec 30th's which was the visual-only dive.  John told me then he didn't want to hear me ever mention the trap again. Of course this didn't set well with me

Kyle: Mr. Red shirt came on the Persistence along with Dolf, Mos, et al for the meeting on the 30th."

Kyle:   This is certainly NOT John Silvetti. I do not know this man. He was with the Arubans who came on board for the Dec-30th meeting.

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Yesterday's Diario Front Page, interesting...

http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/frontpage/index.html