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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #800 2/11 - 2/18/09  (Read 291725 times)
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
« Reply #860 on: February 17, 2009, 10:28:01 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on February 17, 2009, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 09:53:56 PM
I patiently await word from Red through Klaas regarding the phone-call!

Me too, KTF!! 
I am catching up.  I went to post last night and my computer crashed.
I had to buy another one today.

 

Sorry to hear that Magnolia!  But I'm glad you're back in business!  

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #861 on: February 17, 2009, 10:30:00 PM »
Quote from: San on February 17, 2009, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on February 17, 2009, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 09:53:56 PM
I patiently await word from Red through Klaas regarding the phone-call!

Me too, KTF!! 
I am catching up.  I went to post last night and my computer crashed.
I had to buy another one today.

Sorry your computer crashed Magnolia but now you have a new one 

I am thankful for my lovely new one, but I don't know all of it's bells and whistles yet.
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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!
« Reply #862 on: February 17, 2009, 10:33:14 PM »
Quote from: Lifesong on February 17, 2009, 07:41:19 PM
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I maintain that Joran had consistently represented himself to the MB group as a visitor to Aruba, also staying at the Holiday Inn.  If she went willingly, she thought she was going to her hotel.  If her friends let her go, they also thought she was going back to their hotel.

JMO and only MO.



THE REVELATION - JORAN IS NOT A TOURIST

Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

Page 39:  Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.


To be clear, I also maintain that Paulus is the man on the casino video sitting next to and attempting conversation with Natalee - with her friends and Joran also at the table. 

This means I absolutely believe that Paulus both knew of Joran's deception in claiming to be a tourist staying there at the hotel, and was complicit in it.

I maintain that is how premeditation is determined.

 

I've always believed urine and the pimps were procuring young tourists for elders and they played that game 20 times before and nothing bad happened (to the pimps). I'd bet it wasn't the first time urine told a young tourist and her group that he was a student visiting aruba and that he stayed at the same hotel they were staying at. Just think of how many aruba hotel, casino, pimps had to have been involved to "cover urine's lies" and this was a scam played over and over, finely tuned by the playmakers. The photo of paulass in the casino sitting near Natalee says volumes of guilty (goes to premeditation) to me.  Remember rumors of michael posner being livid when that video was released? Guido leaves shortly after if I recall correctly. And d kalpoe saying in the polis car.."your own father".
I'm a believer of Minnesota's Dads contention...paulass is your perp!
If it was only urine...as a minor, he would have been out long before now and aruba could go on their merry way..no worries if urine was prosecuted, tourism would hardly of felt a bump.
I believe there was direct links to paulass that required Natalee's body be disappeared..or paulass would have been implicated along with (fill in the blank..judges/polis/govt official).
paulass pulled out his "get out of jail card - for urine" because of his position in money laundering/drugs/human trafficking/govt contracts/etc.jmoo......
And I noticed yesterday that there are wantabee "stackaholics" lurching in the background....
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« Reply #863 on: February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM »
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
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« Reply #864 on: February 17, 2009, 10:35:45 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
I just found this and well, you decide:



  Mom !
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« Reply #865 on: February 17, 2009, 10:36:31 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....

I'll bet billb's real name is bill bubba!!
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« Reply #866 on: February 17, 2009, 10:41:11 PM »
Quote from: nonesuche on February 17, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
I just found this and well, you decide:



  Mom !



I couldn't help myself and was afraid no one would understand.   

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R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!

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None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
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« Reply #867 on: February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....
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« Reply #868 on: February 17, 2009, 10:41:54 PM »
Magnolia's computer trouble is a reminder to all of us to back-up your wanted pics, etc. periodically! Preferably to an outside medium such as a disc or jump drive!
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« Reply #869 on: February 17, 2009, 10:43:16 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:41:11 PM
Quote from: nonesuche on February 17, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
I just found this and well, you decide:



  Mom !



I couldn't help myself and was afraid no one would understand.   



I always watch for your posts NJ Son's Mom, wise and sophisticated humor 
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« Reply #870 on: February 17, 2009, 10:43:21 PM »
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....

I looked in the rafters and thought you dissappeared.Hey.You start a couple of stacks and see if these Monkey's will join...Maybe a lil' peer pressure for some stackin tonight!
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« Reply #871 on: February 17, 2009, 10:44:06 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on February 17, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....

I'll bet billb's real name is bill bubba!!
Mags...Now that's funny...I don't care who you are...That's funny...compliments of ya'all know who...my illegitimate cousin...Larry, the cable guy...
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« Reply #872 on: February 17, 2009, 10:44:48 PM »
Quote from: wreck on February 17, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
Magnolia's computer trouble is a reminder to all of us to back-up your wanted pics, etc. periodically! Preferably to an outside medium such as a disc or jump drive!

You've got that right, Wreck.  Thanks. 
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« Reply #873 on: February 17, 2009, 10:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....

I looked in the rafters and thought you dissappeared.Hey.You start a couple of stacks and see if these Monkey's will join...Maybe a lil' peer pressure for some stackin tonight!
Like this? 
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« Reply #874 on: February 17, 2009, 10:46:33 PM »
Quote from: wreck on February 17, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....

I looked in the rafters and thought you dissappeared.Hey.You start a couple of stacks and see if these Monkey's will join...Maybe a lil' peer pressure for some stackin tonight!
Like this? 

I'll stack till the cows come home and ya hear tha rooster's cockadoodlin!
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« Reply #875 on: February 17, 2009, 10:46:52 PM »
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on February 17, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....

I'll bet billb's real name is bill bubba!!
Mags...Now that's funny...I don't care who you are...That's funny...compliments of ya'all know who...my illegitimate cousin...Larry, the cable guy...
I really don't know if he's my illegitimate cousin...just saying...ya know...
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
« Reply #876 on: February 17, 2009, 10:47:30 PM »
Quote from: nonesuche on February 17, 2009, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:41:11 PM
Quote from: nonesuche on February 17, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 17, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
I just found this and well, you decide:



  Mom !



I couldn't help myself and was afraid no one would understand.   


I always watch for your posts NJ Son's Mom, wise and sophisticated humor 

I agree!  I got it, and I loved it!    
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #877 on: February 17, 2009, 10:47:45 PM »
Quote from: wreck on February 17, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
Magnolia's computer trouble is a reminder to all of us to back-up your wanted pics, etc. periodically! Preferably to an outside medium such as a disc or jump drive!

We would all be lost if Janet's crashed without backup.  Perish the thought!
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No Body...No Tourism aruba! Bring Natalee Home!
« Reply #878 on: February 17, 2009, 10:48:27 PM »
Quote from: wreck on February 17, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....

I looked in the rafters and thought you dissappeared.Hey.You start a couple of stacks and see if these Monkey's will join...Maybe a lil' peer pressure for some stackin tonight!
Like this? 
I thought I was starting??
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!
« Reply #879 on: February 17, 2009, 10:49:15 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: wreck on February 17, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: billb on February 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
BillB left.Good for him.Maybe he thought he was gonna have a a relapse and start stackin with all the stackaholics tonight.We're here Billb....
I left? where did I go? 
Bubba.....

I looked in the rafters and thought you dissappeared.Hey.You start a couple of stacks and see if these Monkey's will join...Maybe a lil' peer pressure for some stackin tonight!
Like this? 

I'll stack till the cows come home and ya hear tha rooster's cockadoodlin!

I will too, untill I get sucked up in one that is....!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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