THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION

[Tamikosmom]

DAVE HOLLOWAY:  JORAN'S APARTMENT ... NOT THE BEACH.

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Update on Natalee Holloway Investigation
Aired February 23, 2006 - 21:00   ET

TED ROWLANDS, GUEST HOST: Tonight, Natalee Holloway's parents speak out. Now that the chief suspect in her disappearance, Joran Van Der Sloot, has talked, nearly nine months after their beautiful daughter vanished in Aruba, Natalee's mom, Beth Holloway Twitty, and her dad, Dave Holloway, talk about trying to keep hope alive. ....

DAVE HOLLOWAY, FATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I think that was one of his excuses of why they stopped at his apartment. His apartment, by the way, is detached away from the main residence. And, you know, if you've got an individual that you're going to take advantage of, it's not likely that you're going to go to the beach. You're going to go to your apartment. And we believe that's where they stopped, and that's where the incident occurred.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html

[Tamikosmom]

Did Peter Devries sincerely believe that Dolphi Richards would be pleased with the Range Rover recording if it did not conform to the Aruban cover up agenda.  This guy was controlling the corrupt investigation from behind the scenes since the getgo.

When I read the following words of Devries ... I felt that something was hinky.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta - February 8, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: All right. Now, when you showed that tape to Hans Mos, the chief prosecutor, what did he say to you?

PETER DE VRIES, DUTCH CRIME REPORTER:: Oh, he was, of course, very happy. And there was also the police commissioner, Dolph Richardson. And when he was looking at the tape, he said to me, Can you please pinch me in the arm because this is what we are waiting for.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html


On the Record w/ Greta - April 5, 2006

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Why would Dompig want off this case? He has just gone on CBS 48 hours and said he was at a critical stage in this investigation. That is what they told 48 hours and he also said he believes it is alcohol and drugs. Making a rather profound announcement and then on Monday says he wants off.

JULIA RENFRO, EDITOR, ARUBA TODAY: Well, he actually said this last September. He was only suppose to be on the case for about six weeks. He was actually manhandling two positions by doing both the Noord district as well as the Oranjestad district. So, you know, this was a hefty handful here and Richardson who has been on the case since day one under Van der Straaten has continued on in Van der Straaten’s position. So it is really not as comical as people are making it out to be.

[Tamikosmom]

When Paulus van der Sloot was not detained along with Joran, Deepak and Satish in November, 2007 ... I felt that there was something hinky.

It appears that Deepak and Satish stood their ground.  If they were going to take the fall along with Joran ... then so would Paulus.

Was it at this point the the Aruban "powers that be" realized that the Kalpoes had to be distanced from involvement in the death and disposal of Natalee Holloway or ... the brothers would implicate Paulus van der Sloot in the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005?

How did the ten lawyers who agreed that there was enough evidence to implicate Joran, Deepak and Satish all get it so wrong.

Janet

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updated 7:17 p.m. EST, Fri November 30, 2007
Brothers to be freed in Natalee Holloway case

The Kalpoe brothers were previously jailed in the case, but were rearrested last week and charged with being involved in the "voluntary manslaughter" of Holloway.

The judge reasoned Friday that "the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in this case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up the traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse," prosecutors said.

But people accused of those crimes do not qualify for pretrial detention under Aruban law, Mos told reporters. He noted that on Monday, the same judge approved van der Sloot's continuing detention based on the same evidence.

"Apparently, the judge sees a difference between the third suspect and these two suspects," Mos said, since the judge concluded the evidence against the Kalpoes was not strong enough to warrant their continued detention.

When the arrests took place November 21, prosecutors said they had new incriminating evidence against the three men.

... Mos has told CNN he believes authorities have enough evidence to prove Holloway is dead, even if her body is never found. He has suggested her death was an accident.

The new evidence against the three men was gathered from advanced techniques used to re-examine existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared, Mos has said.

Investigators also returned to the homes of the suspects to try to re-create transmissions. The team also discovered that some existing evidence was improperly analyzed.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/30/aruba.holloway/index.html

[Tamikosmom]

Where did the evidence go or ... did the investigation take another path ... another path that would distance the Kalpoes ... the Kalpoes who could implication Paulus van der Sloot.

Janet

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updated 4:25 p.m. EST, Mon November 26, 2007
Dutch man to stay in custody in Holloway case

"There's no doubt in my mind that she's dead," said Hans Mos. "I think we have enough evidence to prove the girl is not alive anymore, even without a body."

Mos further explained that Aruban law does not require a body to prove someone is dead "and any day that passes now is just more evidence that she is not alive anymore."

In the recent investigation, advanced techniques were used to re-examine existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared, Mos said.

Investigators also returned to the homes of the suspects to try to re-create transmissions.

The team also discovered that some existing evidence was improperly analyzed, Mos added.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/30/aruba.holloway/index.html

[Tamikosmom]

I could be wrong but ... I believe that the Range Rover recordings began following Kalpoes and Joran release in December, 2007.

It is known that the fifth and final recording too place on January 29, 2008.  Two of the other recording dates from Patrick vander Eem's OVERBOARD were on January 13th and 15th.  Apparently ... Joran discusses with Patrick on one of the tapes regarding the detainment and interrogations of December, 2007.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta - February 8, 2008

VAN SUSTEREN: How much tape do you have? How many minutes or hours do you think total?

DE VRIES: Oh, we have in total, I think, 20 hours. But quite a lot of the 20 hours is spent with man talk about football, girls and things like that. And a couple of hours, they were talking about Natalee's case.

VAN SUSTEREN: In terms of the 20 hours, that's over how many different days? I mean, is that one very long trip, or is it broken up into a number of trips?

DE VRIES: Yes, that's an important question, Greta. It's not just one conversation. It's not a slip of the tongue. We have been recording five days. So several moments, several days, and sometimes a week between it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

The Dutch police were aware early on of the secret recording plan of Patrick van der Eem and Peter Devries.  The recordings commenced sometime following the December, 2007 release of Joran, Deepak and Satish from detention.

Janet

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Meet the Man Who Got Van Der Sloot to Talk About Holloway's Disappearance
Patrick van der Eem Gives the Inside Story to ABC News
February 4, 2008

Setback

But once the trap was set -- once de Vries had set van der Eem up with a brand new Range Rover tricked out with three hidden cameras, audio recording devices and a Lowjack-like tracking system, de Vries and van der Eem learned that their target had been re-arrested and was back in custody of the Aruba authorities.

"Three days before I was getting my car, he was gone,'' van der Eem said. "Oh, and it was the most … pain in my life. Peter [de Vries], me…everybody was devastated."

But the arrest eventually worked in their favor: Once a judge ordered van der Sloot released for lack of evidence and prosecutors acknowledged they would close the case, van der Eem said he realized he had a new opportunity on his hands.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=6082.520;num_replies=538


Wednesday, February 06, 2008
Joran and OM talk tomorrow in the Netherlands

ORANJESTAD – The conversation between Joran van der Sloot and the Public Prosecutor (OM) will most probably take place in the Netherlands tomorrow, said Joran’s lawyer Ariean de Bie.  Van der Sloot indicated last Monday that he is willing to be interrogated again by the police. According to Van der Eem, Joran continued to bombard him with email and sms until the day of the disclosure. 

After he had met Joran in a poker game in the casino, Van der Eem had approached the Dutch police last year with the suggestion to unmask him.   Justice questions the fact that he had given himself up.  Due to the fact that there is no law for special powers to investigate (BOB), deploy a civil informant in Aruba is unfortunately impossible, but this is different in the Netherlands.  Using police-informants is possible, but with ‘a lot of trouble’.  “But that is going to change”, said an insider in the OM.  “A BOB law is in the make and will probably be presented soon.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

[Tamikosmom]

Meet the Man Who Got Van Der Sloot to Talk About Holloway's Disappearance
Patrick van der Eem Gives the Inside Story to ABC News
February 4, 2008

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=2
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=3
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=4

[Tamikosmom]

I continue to ask myself,what did those "Range Rover" tapes accomplish?

Other than a confirmation placing Joran van der Sloot in the presence of Natalee Holloway when she expired by an apparent seizure ... I contend the Range Rover recordings were nothing but fabrications ... fabrications that all the archives attest to.

Keepthefaith ... you ask what the Range Rover tapes accomplished.  In my opinion these tapes accomplished a lot to further the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for an eighteen year old American citizen.

Joran's "full confession" effectively:

1.  negated the involvement of the Kalpoes.
2.  negated the involvement of Paulus.
3.  negated the involvement of those who assisted Paulus.
4.  negated the involvement of the sons of the elite.
5.  negated the corrupt investigation.
6.  negated the gardner's court testimony.
7.  negated the witness and suspect statements.
8.  negated the suspicions that dictated the detainment of all suspects.
9.  pacified the family of Natalee Holloway.
10. negated the trap/cage.
11. negated Joran's involvement regarding wrongdoing encompassing Natalee's demise.
12. furthered the possibility of a successful outcome to the Kalpoe's defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw.

Janet

13.  negate the shoe within the trap/cage as case related.
 

[Tamikosmom]

HANS MOS:  THE FAULT OF THE FAILED INVESTIGATION - FAMILY AND MEDIA

Holloway Attorney: 'Extraordinarily Painful'
Tuesday, December 04, 2007

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I sat with the prosecutor, and I actually thought he was a pretty smart guy until all this unfolded. But he told me that the reason the investigation had failed was because of two reasons. One is the family and bringing in the DA who happened to be there on the island at the time. And the other is the media. That's why he said that this has failed.

KELLY: You know, that's so sad because even now, as I speak, as I said, everything I might say based on conversations with him, you know, defense attorneys have had in their hands for 10 days now, two weeks. So it's nothing new being revealed here. And to — you know, he's the one holding press conferences. He's the one that sat down for the long interview with you before I ever spoke to you.

And you know, I'm sure he's a very smart guy, but he had no answers to any of the questions we asked when we were down there. It was kind of sad that even the first questions we started asking him, he had no answers to.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

Could the detainments of Joran, Deepak and Satish in November, 2007 have been all about getting stories straight for the Range Rover recordings that Dutch Authorities knew were going to happen?  Could the the timing of the arrests have some significance?

Think about it.  Hans Mos claimed to have sufficient new evidence to warrant charges.  However ... John Kelly claims that the prosecutor had nothing new.

Janet

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PATRICK VANDER EEM:  THE TIMING OF THE ARRESTS

Meet the Man Who Got Van Der Sloot to Talk About Holloway's Disappearance
Patrick van der Eem Gives the Inside Story to ABC News
February 4, 2008

Setback

But once the trap was set -- once de Vries had set van der Eem up with a brand new Range Rover tricked out with three hidden cameras, audio recording devices and a Lowjack-like tracking system, de Vries and van der Eem learned that their target had been re-arrested and was back in custody of the Aruba authorities.

"Three days before I was getting my car, he was gone,'' van der Eem said. "Oh, and it was the most … pain in my life. Peter [de Vries], me…everybody was devastated."

But the arrest eventually worked in their favor: Once a judge ordered van der Sloot released for lack of evidence and prosecutors acknowledged they would close the case, van der Eem said he realized he had a new opportunity on his hands.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=2


Wednesday, February 06, 2008
Joran and OM talk tomorrow in the Netherlands

ORANJESTAD – The conversation between Joran van der Sloot and the Public Prosecutor (OM) will most probably take place in the Netherlands tomorrow, said Joran’s lawyer Ariean de Bie.  Van der Sloot indicated last Monday that he is willing to be interrogated again by the police. According to Van der Eem, Joran continued to bombard him with email and sms until the day of the disclosure. 

After he had met Joran in a poker game in the casino, Van der Eem had approached the Dutch police last year with the suggestion to unmask him.   Justice questions the fact that he had given himself up.  Due to the fact that there is no law for special powers to investigate (BOB), deploy a civil informant in Aruba is unfortunately impossible, but this is different in the Netherlands.  Using police-informants is possible, but with ‘a lot of trouble’.  “But that is going to change”, said an insider in the OM.  “A BOB law is in the make and will probably be presented soon.”

http://amigoe.com/english/


HANS MOS:  JUSTIFICATION FOR THE ARRESTS

ABC NEWS - November 26, 2007

Hans Mos, Aruba's chief prosecutor, told ABC News he believes the the new evidence makes the case against the three men stronger than it was two years.

"We are convinced if we had had this evidence we have now they would not have been released by the court at that time," Mos said.

ttp://sendtofriend.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3912737


On the Record with Greta - November 27, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Breaking news from Aruba, Joran van der Sloot ordered to stay behind bars for at least eight more days. Now, the Kalpoe brothers already got the same news last week. Now, all three suspects were re-arrested. Why? The prosecutor has now charged all three with voluntary manslaughter of Natalee Holloway.

MOS: And this decision to re-arrest these three suspects was a decision taken by 10 lawyers, by 10 lawyers sitting around a table (INAUDIBLE) whole afternoon, being presented the new material.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313168,00.html


JOHN Q. KELLY - NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ARREST

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: ... John, how was your weekend?

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY: Disappointing, Greta. I think it was disappointing to me and actually extraordinarily painful and almost cruel for Beth and Dave after being down there ...

VAN SUSTEREN: ... The prosecutor had misleading statements?

KELLY: Well, in their press release and even in conversations. I had a long discussion with him Thanksgiving morning after the arrests, and you know, he indicated that they were very confident, this new evidence they had, this incriminating evidence. And it turns out, quite frankly, that it is nothing new, Greta. It's just the — you know, the — you know, the contradictory statements the boys made and some other accounts and the timeline and things like that that's been out there for two-and-a-half years now.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So you can say with 100 percent certainly there's nothing new, right?

KELLY: I can say it with 99 percent.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

What happened to all the new evidence that Hans Mos claimed warranted Joran, Deepak and Satish's detainment in November, 2007.  According to the judge ... it doesn't exist.  According to the defense attorneys ... it doesn't exist.  According the the Aruban judge ... it doesn't exist.

What then was the reasoning behind the rearrest of Joran, Deepak and Satish?

1.  Could it have had everything to do with the impending Range Rover tapes that Dutch authorities had been made aware of by Patrick vander Eem?

2.  Could it have been all about the Range Rover tapes that were meant to implicate only Joran in assisting to dispose of a Natalee Holloway's body after witnessing her demise following what appeared to be a seizure?

3.  Could it be that Joran was assured that when all was said and done ... he would not be held legally accountable?

Janet

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THE KALPOES' RELEASE

Wed December 5, 2007
Brothers suspected in Aruba case remain free

The Kalpoes and van der Sloot, who previously had been detained in the case, were re-arrested November 21, with prosecutors citing new and incriminating evidence against them. They were charged with being involved in the "voluntary manslaughter" of Holloway, as well as assault and battery leading to her death. All three have maintained their innocence.

The new evidence is the same against all three, Mos has said.

A judge Friday ordered the Kalpoes released from jail, refusing a request from prosecutors that they remain in custody another eight days. Wednesday's decision came in response to Mos' appeal of that ruling.

"The reasoning of the court reads as follows: Notwithstanding an extensive and lengthy investigation, the case file against the brothers S.K. and D.K. does not contain direct indications that Natalee Holloway has died as the result of a violent crime against her," Mos' office said in a statement released after Wednesday's ruling. "Equally, the case file does not contain direct indications of the suspects' involvement in a violent crime against Natalee."

After last week's decision to release the Kalpoes, Mos told reporters the judge reasoned that "the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in the case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse."

Under Aruban law, he said, people accused of those lesser crimes do not qualify for pretrial detention.

But, Mos said last week, a judge had approved van der Sloot's continuing detention based on the same evidence. "Apparently, the judge sees a difference between the third suspect and these two suspects," he said.

On Wednesday, Mos' office said that given the length of time elapsed since Holloway's disappearance, "the court does not see sufficient facts and circumstances substantiating serious grounds for the suspicion of the suspects' involvement in the crimes for which pretrial detention has been requested.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/05/aruba.holloway/


JORAN VAN DER SLOOT'S RELEASE

updated 1:17 p.m. EST, Fri December 7, 2007
Van der Sloot ordered released from Aruba jail

(CNN) -- In a decision that could end hopes for any prosecutions in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, an Aruban judge on Friday ordered the release of a third suspect, Joran van der Sloot.

The other suspects, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were released last week, a decision upheld by a three-judge panel on appeal. Prosecutors said they will not appeal the decision to release van der Sloot, meaning all three suspects will remain free pending any potential trial.

The judge's reasoning in making the decision Friday follows that of the Court of Appeal in the decision to uphold the release of the Kalpoes, Chief Public Prosecutor Hans Mos' office said in a written statement.

"He writes that recent investigation has not resulted in more direct evidence than before that Natalee Holloway has died as a result of a violent crime against her or that the suspect has been involved in such a crime," it said.

The prosecutor's office said that in light of the Court of Appeal's decision on the Kalpoes' release, an appeal of the van der Sloot decision is viewed as "fruitless."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/07/aruba/index.html

[Tamikosmom]

PROSECUTION SPOKESPERSON:  COLD CASE

Prosecutors Drop Holloway Investigation
Prosecutors Drop Investigation Into Disappearance of Alabama Teen Without Filing Charges
By CHRISTINE BROUWER and SCOTT MICHELS
Dec. 18, 2007

Weeks after several highly publicized arrests in the case of a missing American teenager, Aruban prosecutors said Tuesday that they were dismissing the case against the three suspects in the unsolved 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Prosecutors said there was not enough evidence to convict the three young men long suspected of involvement in her disappearance — Joran Van der Sloot and brothers Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

"The investigation did not bring about sufficient evidence to convince a court of law that a crime of violence against Natalee Holloway has been committed," the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, is "extremely disappointed," said her brother Paul Reynolds. "It's hard to put into words the frustration that she feels."

"It's extremely disappointing to hear [prosecutors] say they had something and then two weeks later that they don't. It doesn't make sense and it causes one to question whether this decision is appropriate," Reynolds said.

After years with little news, Aruban authorities last month announced they had new evidence in the case, and re-arrested Van der Sloot and the Kalpoes. Prosecutors also said they had evidence that Holloway, whose body has never been found, was killed.

But, within weeks, a judge ordered all three suspects released, saying there was not enough evidence to continue to detain them. A court of appeal upheld that ruling, agreeing that there was not enough evidence to conclude that Holloway had died "due to a violent crime," the prosecutor's office said.

Hans Mos, the Aruban prosecutor, told ABC News today, "We did everything we could, but unfortunately we have had to accept that this did not have the desired result, namely a clarification of the case."

Prosecutors said they still believed the three men were involved in Holloway's death and they could reopen the case "if new serious evidence were to be found." The statute of limitations is six years for involuntary manslaughter and 12 years for homicide.

A spokesperson said that the prosecutor's office "looks at it as a cold case."

http://i.abcnews.com/TheLaw/Story?id=4020498&page=1

[Tamikosmom]

RANGE ROVER TRANSCRIPT


NANCY GRACE
Judge Refuses to Order Arrest of Joran Van Der Sloot
Aired February 5, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PATRICK VAN DER EEM (through translator): How were you so sure she was dead, Joran? You can`t. You know, people can also go into coma.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT (through translator) : Yes, I wasn`t sure about that, but it really scared me to death.

VAN DER EEM: No, but I understand that. I definitely understand that you were scared. Did you really prod her (INAUDIBLE)

VAN DER SLOOT: No, no. But it didn`t look good.

VAN DER EEM: How didn`t it look good, then?

VAN DER SLOOT: Just -- you know, she`d been shaking and stuff.

VAN DER EEM: What, really shaking?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes. I don`t know. Yes. Pretty much.

VAN DER EEM: I`m asking you, how were you so sure (DELETED) she was dead, man?

VAN DER EEM: I wasn`t (DELETED) sure.

(END VIDEO CLIP)


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VAN DER EEM (through translator): This guy really knows what he`s doing. Did he weigh her down to make her sink?

VAN DER SLOOT (through translator): No, no. I don`t think so.

VAN DER EEM: You don`t even know that?

VAN DER SLOOT: No.

VAN DER EEM: Did he ever tell you how he did it?

VAN DER SLOOT: Of course he did.

VAN DER EEM: How did he do it, then?

VAN DER EEM: He just went out into the sea further and he just dumped her.

VAN DER EEM: He just threw her overboard, just like that? You`ve been really lucky, you know. No (DELETED) you`ve really been lucky.

VAN DER SLOOT: That`s what I say. I`ve been very lucky.

VAN DER EEM: Really lucky that he has been so stupid to do this, you know?

VAN DER SLOOT: I was even able to sleep that night. I just went home and went to bed.

VAN DER EEM: What happened to her? What (DELETED) happened to her? Joran listen, I`m from Aruba. I know the beach.

VAN DER SLOOT: I`m telling you honestly I know what happened to that girl.

VAN DER EEM: What happened then, Joran? (INAUDIBLE) she`s dead, isn`t she.

VAN DER SLOOT: Of course. The ocean`s big, isn`t it.

VAN DER EEM: Of course, the sea is big, man.

VAN DER SLOOT: I think that I`ve been incredibly lucky that she`s never been found because if they found that girl, I`d be in deep (DELETED), even if they find that girl dead with my sperm in her.

VAN DER EEM: And they can`t do anything anymore?

VAN DER SLOOT: Not a thing, no. They just can`t do a thing.

VAN DER EEM: She`s just lying still?

VAN DER SLOOT: Still, still. She`s not doing anything. He says, What happened? I said, I don`t know, either, man.

VAN DER EEM: Did you try and resuscitate her?

VAN DER SLOOT: Of course! I tried everything, man. I tried to shake her. I was shaking the (DELETED). I was, like, So what`s wrong with you, man? I almost wanted to cry. What (DELETED) going to happen to me. I said to him, This is impossible. He took the boat. He went far out, and he threw her over the side. Then he came back and he docked his boat there. And he came by my house for a bit.

VAN DER EEM: At night.

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes. Then we talked for a bit and he says to me, You know, it`s all good. She`s going to be missing. They`re going to search, but they`re not going to know a thing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/05/ng.01.html

[Tamikosmom]

Prior to the ABC special viewing ... John Kelly must be of the impression that the trap/cage contents discovered by the Persistence on Christmas Day, 2007 and ... recovered by the Arubans on January 7, 2008 were not case related.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta
New Developments in Natalee Holloway Case
Friday, February 01, 2008

VAN SUSTEREN: If the information (INAUDIBLE) was the information sufficiently detailed, or is the — or was the disposal such that the body could now be recovered? Because obviously, that would be giant in making out a case.

KELLY: It's my understanding from what I've heard that it would not be possible to recover the body at this time and the manner of disposal. And you know, Greta, I think it's going to be pretty simple. Seeing is believing, and this is something that's to air Sunday night. I think everybody's going to have the opportunity to see for themselves and judge for themselves. And I hate to even talk about something that's just basically going to speak for itself when it does air.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327625,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

There was a time I would have believed that Peter Devries would have gone down fighting to expose the entire truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway ... the entire truth which would implicate Paulus van der Sloot.

However ... when Devries claimed that the tapes were a full confession rather than declaring to all who would listen that Joran's words were nothing but lies throughout the recordings ... I began to suspect that this investigative reporter who possessed a comprehensive knowledge of the dynamics encompassing the Natalee Holloway had sold out to the Aruban coverup agenda.

I do not adhere to the contention that Peter Devries was duped.  I give him too much credit and ... along with that credit there is accountability.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

The distractions which were created to take the focus of attention away from the contents of the trap/cage that were afforded unchallenged by John Silvetti to the Aruban enemy on January 7, 2008 are very important.  Inquiring minds want to know why distractions were created if nothing case related was recovered by the Arubans

The speculation with backup that the false lead was created to divert attention away from the cage/trap discovery and recovery is embraced as a topic of discussion.

The speculation with backup that the witness/pond search was created to divert attention away from the cage/trap discovery and recovery is embraced as a topic of discussion.

Why is the speculation with backup that the Range Rover confession was a collaborated hoax which encompassed many projected outcomes such a sensitive topic of discussion?

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

When I consider the timing of the November, 2007 rearrests of Joran, Deepak and Satish and ... when I consider that the "powers that be" knew of the attempting "unmasking" of Joran van der Sloot

1.  I suspect at some period in time the "powers that be" became involved in the Range Rover recordings.

2.  I suspect the detentions were not justified and ... had everything to do with collaborating projected outcomes in the upcomming January Range Rover recordings ... projected outcomes that could bring a conclusion to the Natalee Holloway case.

3.  I suspect there was another collaboration with the "powers that be" for the fifth and final Range Rover recording ... another collaboration to assure that all projected outcomes were successfully accomplished..

Janet

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THE RANGE ROVER RECORDINGS


THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE DUTCH POLICE

Wednesday, February 06, 2008
Joran and OM talk tomorrow in the Netherlands

ORANJESTAD – ... After he had met Joran in a poker game in the casino, Van der Eem had approached the Dutch police last year with the suggestion to unmask him.   

http://amigoe.com/english/


THE TIMING OF THE REARRESTS

Meet the Man Who Got Van Der Sloot to Talk About Holloway's Disappearance
Patrick van der Eem Gives the Inside Story to ABC News
February 4, 2008

Setback

"Three days before I was getting my car, he was gone,'' van der Eem said. "Oh, and it was the most … pain in my life. Peter [de Vries], me…everybody was devastated."

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=2


Dutch Crime Reporter Peter De Vries Goes Inside Joran van der Sloot's Explosive Tape
Friday, February 08, 2008

VAN SUSTEREN: So what was the plan? When was the first taping? I think there was a little problem with the first taping. You planned it and then Joran got arrested?

DE VRIES: Yes, that's right. The day we were planning to do it, he was arrested.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html


REARRESTS - NEW EVIDENCE?

ABC NEWS - November 26, 2007

Hans Mos, Aruba's chief prosecutor, told ABC News he believes the the new evidence makes the case against the three men stronger than it was two years.

"We are convinced if we had had this evidence we have now they would not have been released by the court at that time," Mos said.

http://sendtofriend.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3912737


REARRESTS - NO NEW EVIDENCE

Holloway Attorney: 'Extraordinarily Painful'
Tuesday, December 04, 2007

VAN SUSTEREN: ... The prosecutor had misleading statements?

KELLY: Well, in their press release and even in conversations. I had a long discussion with him Thanksgiving morning after the arrests, and you know, he indicated that they were very confident, this new evidence they had, this incriminating evidence. And it turns out, quite frankly, that it is nothing new, Greta. It's just the — you know, the — you know, the contradictory statements the boys made and some other accounts and the timeline and things like that that's been out there for two-and-a-half years now.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So you can say with 100 percent certainly there's nothing new, right?

KELLY: I can say it with 99 percent.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html


FINAL COLLABORATION

Arubans wary of fifth car trip in Holloway case
Monday 25 February 2008
 
Dutch tv crime reporter Peter R de Vries set up a fifth car trip to try and get Joran van der Sloot to confess to murdering US teenager Natalee Holloway after the Aruban public prosecution department said the original four recordings did not contain enough evidence, the Volkskrant reported on Saturday.
 
Aruban officials told De Vries and his team at a secret hotel meeting that the tapes did not contain enough new evidence, the paper says in a reconstruction of events surrounding the tv programme which claimed to solve the mystery of her disappearance.

Aruban public prosecutor Hans Mos told the paper he did not want to have anything to do with the extra car trip because he was afraid it could be construed as entrapment and blow the case.
 
The final car trip with Van der Sloot and his 'friend' Patrick van der Eem took place on January 29 in a borrowed car which had been hastily kitted out with recording equipment, the paper said. The original had already been sold.

During that trip, Van der Sloot said he was not sure if Natalee had been dead when a friend dumped her body at sea ...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/02/arubans_wary_of_fifth_car_trip.php


COLLABORATED PROJECTED OUTCOMES?

The Range Rover recording effectively:

1.  negated the involvement of the Kalpoes.
2.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate Paulus.
3.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate those who assisted Paulus.
4.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate the sons of the elite.
5.  distanced the corrupt investigation.
6.  negated the gardner's court testimony.
7.  negated the witness and suspect statements.
8.  negated the suspicions that dictated the detainment of all suspects.
9.  appeased the family of Natalee Holloway.
10. negated the trap/cage discovered by the Persistence and its contents recovered unchallenged by the Aruban enemy.
11. negated Joran's extent of involvement regarding wrongdoing encompassing Natalee's demise.
12. furthered the possibility of a successful outcome to the Kalpoe's defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw

[Tamikosmom]

The one segment of the Range Rover recording regarding the seizure is the only part of the entire Range Rover recording that reflects a truth and cannot be negated by the the archives.

In my opinion the mention of a seizure ... an issue that can be backed up by the archives ... implies that Joran was present when Natalee Holloway died.

However ... as Wreck rightly pointed out ... the location of the seizure took place may not have even been the beach.

Janet

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Range Rover Transcript

Joran: By the corner, by the Marriot, between the Marriott and the fisherman's hut. There is a road. I get out and walk with her on the beach. I begin to kiss her and such, but she does not look too good. Shit man, but she also looked good, but she wanted (it), she really wanted (it). So I kissed her and fingered her, she has her hand in my pants, and so on, and all of a sudden Patrick, like in a movie what she did. Shaking, yes, very bad. So I was like, "Shit, what is this?" 

Patrick: What did you do then? 

Joran: I stayed with her, and there was nobody there, Patrick, nobody. 

Patrick: Of course, no one is there, it's night time Joran. 

Joran: And um, yeah, I talk to her, talk to her, talk with her, she's not talking, 

Patrick: How long did she shake then? Do you know what it is? 

Joran: I don't know. 

Patrick: An epileptic episode, or something, man. She was shaking and foam also, from her mouth? 

Joran: No, no foam from her mouth. Not that I saw ...


Beth Holloway on Joran van der Sloot's 'Confession'
Thursday, February 07, 2008

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE'S MOTHER:  And you know, when you're hearing it, some of the things that I was hearing — of course, the first thing that struck me when Peter was telling me — and there were some camera crews around. And Peter began to disclose to me how Joran described Natalee's condition, the shaking. And I tell you, Greta, I mean, I had to ask everyone to leave the room. I wanted everyone out.

I couldn't believe it because, I mean, it was so stunning, it was so stunning that I was hearing these words that Joran was saying because two- and-a-half years ago, gosh, Greta, within 48 hours of Natalee's disappearance — 48 hours — the lead detective, Dennis Jacobs, came to me in the Bubali (ph) police station and says, Does Natalee have a history of epilepsy or seizures? And I thought, No, why are you asking that? And he did it — they did it repeatedly to Jug. And when I was hearing that, it just — it just felt like it brought everything full circle of what we had been fighting for.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think, if the Aruban police asked that question within 48 hours of Natalee disappearing, and now we hear it on the tape with Joran two-and-a-half or three-and-a-half years later, whatever it is by now — do you think the Aruban police heard him say that? Do you think he told that to the Aruban police that night when they talked to him?

HOLLOWAY: I have absolutely no doubt that the only reason why that question was asked of us was they had a confession or an admission of this from Joran Van Der Sloot himself. So definitely. There is no way that we can tie what Joran said — you know, no way that we cannot tie when Joran said during that taped interview to what was asked of us from Dennis Jacobs not — within 48 hours. Absolutely. Absolutely, they knew.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329348,00.html

Janet,

I simply don't believe Natalee was disposed of that first night. I don't care if Joran claims that is what happened or not. Like you said, Joran told different stories to even Patrick. Yes, Natalee may have indeed had "seizures" that joran witnessed -- that DOESN'T mean those seizures happened on the beach or in the circumstances he told Patrick.

[Tamikosmom]

If Peter Devries ... an investigative reporter who possessed a comprehensive knowledge of the corrupt Aruban investigation ... had dismissed the finished recordings as nothing but a pack of lies by Joran ... lies that only furthered the Aruban coverup agenda ... I would have assumed that only Joran van der Sloot ...the Aruban "powers that be" and maybe Patrick ... were in on what I perceive as a hoax ... a hoax meant to bring the the Natalee Holloway case to a simple conclusion ... a conclusion that implied that only Joran was involved in the misdemeanor of assisting in the disposal of a body.  Case Closed!

However ... when Peter Devries refers over and over on the talk show circuit ... on his interview with Beth ... on his website .. that the recordings solved the case ... the recordings contain a "full" confession ... I draw the line.

Devries has had two years to reassess his position on the recording and ... in my opinion his silence speaks volumes.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Prior to January 7, 2008 ... I perceive the Arubans involvement in the Range Rover recordings as very beneficial.  Following the recovery of the samples located within the trap/cage ... the benefits of Aruban involvement increased by one.

IMO

Janet

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The Range Rover recording effectively:

1.  negated the involvement of the Kalpoes.
2.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate Paulus.
3.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate those who assisted Paulus.
4.  negated the possibility that the Kalpoes would implicate the sons of the elite.
5.  distanced the corrupt investigation.
6.  negated the gardner's court testimony.
7.  negated the witness and suspect statements.
8.  negated the suspicions that dictated the detainment of all suspects.
9.  appeased the family of Natalee Holloway.
10. negated the trap/cage discovered by the Persistence and its contents recovered unchallenged by the Aruban enemy.
11. negated Joran's extent of involvement regarding wrongdoing encompassing Natalee's demise.
12. furthered the possibility of a successful outcome to the Kalpoe's defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw