THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION

[Tamikosmom]

Looks like the hearing 11/16/09 (Motion to Compel) has been postponed until 1/29/2010:

Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

01/29/2010 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Compel (c/f 11-16-09)

05/06/2010 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference

05/17/2010 at 09:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial

Thanks Klaas

Could it be that the disputed segment of the Phil McGraw recording of Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak in regards to whether or not it was "edited" or "manipulated" is the holdup.  If the recording cannot stand alone as evidence that no defamation against the Kalpoes occurred ... then case documentation from Aruba is required.

According to the Kalpoes' representation ... the distancing of Deepak and Satish by Joran van der Sloot in the Range Rover confession could present a problem for Phil McGraw.  Could it be that case documentation that supports McGraw's contention that the Kalpoes were not defamed on his show can now be legally withheld under Dutch law by Aruba?

Obviously ... there are legal reasons that this case has not been dismissed.  In February, 2008 ... the judge gave the Kalpoes' representatives FIVE DAYS to come up with the requested documents.

Janet

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Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil      

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

The ruling came a day after ABC's "20/20" aired a secretly recorded conversation involving Joran Van der Sloot, who also has been interrogated by Aruban authorities on Holloway's May 2005 disappearance. In the tape, Van der Sloot claims that Holloway died on the beach while they were kissing, and that he tried to revive her but failed. He said that the teen's body was dumped in the ocean and that it would never be found.

Joseph Tacopina, a lawyer for Van der Sloot, said that his client was not responsible for the Alabama teenager's death and that the tapes do not amount to a confession. Last week, Van der Sloot said he was lying in those conversations and denied that he had anything to do with Holloway's disappearance.

The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling. "There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

In June, another judge dismissed a wrongful death case against the Kalpoes by Holloway's parents, ruling the Los Angeles Superior Court did not have jurisdiction. The parents maintained the brothers conceded jurisdiction when they sued CBS and McGraw in Los Angeles.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

04/29/09

Honorable Edward A. Fernes

Page 14:  To the extent that the Dr. Phil Show Defendants can be shown to have been negligent or reckless in the way they edited the show and thus potentially liable, there is no competent showing the Defendant Skeeter was so involved.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf

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THE ARUBAN PROSECUTOR - HANS MOS

Peter Devries has a background knowledge of the coverup agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing since the getgo.  However ... in his own words ... Devries upholds the Aruban investigation when he implies that the prosecutor Hans Mos is on the side of justice for Natalee Holloway.
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02 - 15 - 2008 / 11:30 a.m. (G.M.T.)
PETER DEVIRIES: NO REARREST FOR JORAN: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO HER RELATIVES?

- INVESTIGATION CONTINUES-

For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.

Peter R. de Vries

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-norearrest.htm


THE ARCHIVES - HANS MOS

ACCORDING TO JOHN Q. KELLY
 
On the Record with Greta - December 4, 2007

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY: Well, in their press release and even in conversations. I had a long discussion with him (Hans Mo) Thanksgiving morning after the arrests, and you know, he indicated that they were very confident, this new evidence they had, this incriminating evidence. And it turns out, quite frankly, that it is nothing new ...

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So you can say with 100 percent certainly there's nothing new, right?

KELLY:  I can say it with 99 percent.  ... I think it was disappointing to me and actually extraordinarily painful and almost cruel for Beth and Dave after being down there.

They'd like to get some answers and they'd like to see some progress made.  And it's not fair to bring them down there with the false promises, with raised expectations, sort of a dog and pony show down there with no substance.

And it was — it just really took whatever spirit, almost, that Beth and Dave had left, went through that this weekend. It was really — it was terribly painful, for lack of a better expression.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html


On the Record with Greta - December 3, 2008

Now the Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly wants action. In a letter to Aruban Chief Prosecutor Hans Mos, Kelly calls for the arrest of Joran van der Sloot. Joran's father Paulus and the Kalpoe brothers are also included ...

VAN SUSTEREN: It's your letter. What do you want from Hans Mos, and what have you heard from him?

KELLY: Nothing but deafening silence out of Aruba. No, I haven't heard from him.

The point of the letter was, and if you remember last year, Greta, with great fanfare and press releases, and, you know, just all kinds of dog and pony show, they arrested the Kalpoe brothers and Joran for absolutely no reason, no new evidence. Just picked them up and held them for a month.

And now they have new evidence. You have a damning confession by Joran as to serious criminal conduct he engaged in, implicates others. And they haven't done anything with it. And everything Joran has said is consistent with the facts as we know them right now.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,460908,00.html


ACCORDING TO BETH HOLLOWAY

Dateline NBC - February 22, 2008

The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.

Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records.  To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.

Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/


The Dana Pretzer Show - December 21, 2007

Jug Twitty:

She (Beth) said that the prosecutor lied to them when he told them that there was new evidence.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2007/12/21/scared-monkeys-radio-daily-commentary-friday-december-21-2007-dana-reflects-on-his-interview-with-natalee-holloways-stepfather-george-jug-twitty/
 

Quote from: jen3560 on July 21, 2009, 04:16:40 PM

Natalee's Freebirds heard from this family member on Sept 14 2008 with the info that Beth was not at all happy with Mos ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg884344#msg884344

 
The Lineup - December 2, 2007

Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera. She left the police department about 2:30.

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yw

[Tamikosmom]

RANGE ROVER RECORDINGS

PART ONE:  THE DUTCH CONNECTION

PART TWO:  HAPPENINGS ENCOMPASSING 11/07 REARRESTS

PART THREE:  THE ARUBAN CONNECTION


AN ABSOLUTE PRINCIPLE

“Sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.”

Private Eye - March 13, 2008 – Scared Monkeys

[Tamikosmom]

RANGE ROVER RECORDINGS

PART ONE:  THE DUTCH CONNECTION

It is naivety to expect a positive outcome by collaborating with the Dutch Administration … the Dutch Administration that has been a participant from the get go in the Aruban cover up agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

Could it be that Paulus van der Sloot and his son were aware of the Range Rover recording prior to the first ride and … prior to the November, 2007 rearrests?.


On the Record w / Greta - November 14, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  Well Greta, somebody is lobbying for Joran in the Hague in order to protect him ..... it has to be.


Amigoe – February 6, 2008

ORANJESTAD – ... After he had met Joran in a poker game in the casino, Van der Eem had approached the Dutch police last year with the suggestion to unmask him.

http://amigoe.com/english/


Overboard - Patrick vander Eeem

Heidi tells me a beat cop from the city area Broek in Arnhem has called her mother asking all kinds of questions about who drives in our Toyota RAV4. That was the car I was driving at the time but it was in my mother in laws name. Questions from a cop? I’m thinking what the hell. I can’t imagine what they want with me. So I call this guy back.

The cops name is Frank and let me just start by saying we need a thousand more like him. Beat cops have to have a special bond with the community. They need to be aware of what is going on there and know the people. I have nothing but praise for the care and effort this man put into his job. Having been on the wrong side of the law I don’t often have nice words for most police officers but Frank is an exception. He had even checked into my company, Pirtek, once he had my name and found out it was registered to me only.

‘Good afternoon, officer. I heard you wanted to speak to me. What can I do for you?’  He’s very nice on the phone.  Tells me he’s been seeing me around quite a bit, driving with my music up. ‘I’m a little confused,’ I tell him. ‘I know that I’m not driving too fast and the stereo is not too loud so those can’t be a problem.

’Could it be that I have this Joran van der Sloot in the car with me?’ Yes that hit the nail on the head. The Broek precinct is next to where Joran’s house is located.  The car had been seen there and he and I driving had been spotted often and now this officer was inquiring about it.

‘Do you want to talk to me about it? Frank asked. I have to hand it to this guy for being that observant. This was the opening I had needed.

‘Not that you don’t seem like a nice enough guy,  Frank, but I don’t think you’re the right person to talk to about this. No offence. I need someone higher up.’

The officer fell silent for just two seconds, but was surprisingly helpful about it all. He said he understood and that he would contact the right people for me. ‘Someone will call you.  Take care Patrick’.

You have to reflect on the beauty of how the universe is ordered. Here I had it wrapped in a neat little bow. I suppose it could be called God, karma or fate, but whatever it was, it was working in high gear. I had wanted to meet Joran and I did. I had high hopes for him to talk and I even had to stop him. I had needed the cops and here they were.

Frank had been a diligent beat cop and done his homework. Whatever was to come, I could not say that I had the  cop and done his homework. Whatever was to come, I could not say that I had the world against me. Everything had lined up perfectly. I had two aces in my hand and the powers that be gave me a third on the flop. Now all I had to do was play my cards right.

It took a week and a half for someone to contact me. As they say the waiting is the hardest part but there was nothing to be done about it since you can’t directly contact the CIE (Criminal Information Unit of the Dutch police which collects information on organized crime and big crime cases). They have to call you.

Frank had passed along that the information was pertaining to Joran van der Sloot. I told the man on the phone that I befriended Joran with the purpose of getting him to talk and that it might be interesting for them if we speak. Within a week I had an appointment to meet two CIE agents.

While I waited for this contact, I had time to think about what exactly I wanted out of all of this. It never hurt to aim high and see what you get.  You don’t get anywhere if you aim for the ground and not the stars. This was a real official channel and a shot like this was once in a lifetime. In my daydreams I put together the package deal to get three hundred thousand Euros and that it would all take place in a large hall where I would set up a weed plantation. Ideally I wanted to keep the plants when the whole sting was done. In return all the information they ever wanted on the Natalee Holloway case would be delivered to them.

Yes, it sounded steep, but this was not a small operation. Half would be used for start up money on the plantation and the other half would go to me which I would use to cover my time and expenses. I had already dumped quite a large amount of money into this project and it would be nice to recoup some of it.

The meeting was set at the Rijnhotel a cute little hotel in Arnhem next to the river the Rhine near the German border for eight in the evening. When I arrived I spotted the two agents immediately. A man and a woman. You could have surrounded them with a room full of people and I would have still picked them out.  They had that typical cop look. He was around 45, in good athletic condition, six feet tall and had a huge mustache.  Honestly, it was the type of mustache you only pictured on a cop. She was so extremely background it actually made her stand out and of course had half long half short hair. I really don’t remember too many of her features. I was kind of distracted by that massive mustache that nothing else really existed.

I had been told to bring my passport and they asked for it right away. No problem, I handed it to them and they handed me little plastic cards to show they worked for CIE. They came from Rotterdam, the Dutch harbor city. I asked if they had a business card for me to keep but they didn’t.  They told me this meeting never happened and they would never admit that it had so there was no need to exchange cards. Now, I know I should have remembered their names. They introduced themselves and I read it on the ID-cards but for the life of me I can’t. It didn’t seem important at the time because after the meeting it was clear they weren’t going to help me.

They sipped coffee and tea during the meeting. Very professional of them to stay away from the beer while working. I also like to avoid alcohol while I’m snorting and ordered a coffee. We chatted a little. I explained who I was and gave them some background. Although it was probably unnecessary since they would have pulled any files the police had on me. The Moustache said he had kids too, which was a nice way to bond with me during our chat. Then I laid everything out in front of them in detail. How I had met Joran and how I had been speaking with him everyday. I knew he would talk. I put my whole plan on the table, the weed plantation, the money, the cameras and taps. I went to great lengths to explain so they would see how brilliant it could all be if done right. When I had finished, the two agents looked like they had been given more than they bargained for.

Moustache took the lead in talking. He seemed quite convinced that this was all impossible. The money would never be approved and the police just did not get involved in operations like this. It was just not the way things were done.

‘You don’t have many questions,’ I taunted. ‘Do you really think your bosses would like you making decisions what happens or not without at least informing them what’s on the table?’

‘Well it doesn’t really work like that.’ Moustache started to repeat himself.  ‘Besides,before we can do anything you have to become a registered informer for us.’ What they proposed was I sign up as part of their infiltrator network and provide them with not just this case but help them with many others.

‘Look, this is the first and the last time I want to hear anything about that.’ I made sure they knew in no uncertain terms that I had no interest in becoming a stool pigeon. What I was doing with Joran was an exception to my normal lifestyle.

Moustache did not seem pleased with this. I think they had hoped that I would turn informer on my friends and former underworld ties. They would have a long wait for that to happen. Hell would have to freeze over first and with the rate of global warming that was not likely.

They told me they would need time to confer about what we had talked about. That seemed normal enough. Perhaps it was just all one big negotiation tactics. That became even more probable when they asked in their closing if they could come with  a counter proposal because the money really would not work.

‘Everything is on the table for discussion.  You can come back with what you like but if the money is not good enough I do not see us working together. Just remember I will get this done with or without you.’

Moustache seemed amused with that. ‘Well this Joran certainly has found trouble in you.’

They paid for everything.  The bill wasn’t much and they paid cash. When we parted it was agreed they would call me again with whatever the decision or counter proposal might be.

Walking away I had to shake my head. The meeting had lasted about an hour and all said it could have been handled better. It felt as if I had met a stone wall before I ever got started. I was playing hardball with the money but in truth if they came with a  decent counter offer I would listen. What would I do with the information if they didn’t want to use it? I had never even thought about it before. If the cops decided that they didn’t want to help me, my only other option would be Peter R. Devries or a news program to get the truth out.

Peter R. Devries had his own crime show on Dutch television and the things he had accomplished were amazing. He is an experienced crime reporter who put his skills and resources to solving cold cases and exposing injustice and governmental hypocrisy. He solved murders like a larger than life Sherlock Holmes. I knew he once personally tracked down the main kidnapper of Heineken in Paraguay, at that time the most wanted criminal of Holland, while the beer company had an army of investigators searching in vain. In many of his shows he used hidden cameras. He had done a show on Joran the year before and I knew he would jump on this but I wanted to give the police their chance. I mean, yeah, getting paid would be good but I had to do the right thing first.

The phone call from CIE took about two weeks. I saw them a few days later in the same hotel at eight again. They had talked with their superiors and they did not like my idea.

The money was not possible and the weed plantation certainly out of the question.  However they were convinced I had to become a mole for them and start giving them information on other activities.

‘This is the second time you’ve brought this up to me and really I have had enough of it.  It will not happen.  You have no advice for me on Joran? No counter proposal?’  They didn’t. In fact they did not even discuss Joran.  All they could fixate on was me turning informer for them. They spoke of drugs and the help I could give them on busting up some major crime networks in Arnhem and surroundings. Their pitch was on everything else but Joran. I was livid. What the hell were these people playing at with this?

I laughed at them. ‘I have a job, my own business. I make more money than you and your partner combined. How is that going to work? What are you going to give me for it? It wouldn’t matter anyway because everyone would laugh in my face and within three months I would be dead. I am not interested in becoming a stoolie for you.’ Not that there was any price high enough, but any person in the world is curious enough to ask ‘what do you pay for it actually?’ Unfortunately they were unwilling to discuss any compensation package. Seems to me like a data gathering process by a specialist police unit that will never fly if you want to put snitches out there.

I brought them back to Joran. ‘I guess we have no deal then.’ They needed to confer again and could they call me back. ‘Fine you do that.

This was starting to feel like a big waste of my time. What the hell were they thinking? What the hell had I been thinking? The entire meeting it was as if Joran did not exist. They were only interested in what I could give them about my other exploits. They had done nothing with my proposal. I doubt anyone higher up had even heard. By the third meeting, same place, same time, I was really done with it. In total it must  have lasted a whole fifteen minutes and even that was too long. Again they told me the money was impossible and that they only wanted me as one of their regular informants.

‘And what about Joran now?’  ‘Just go to Peter R. Devries,’ the Moustache advised.

That just floored me. During all three meetings his name was never mentioned and now the police left their job to a crime reporter? Well gee, I already thought of that myself. Thanks for the help, guys. Glad you’re out there protecting the public. Makes me feel safe.  So there it was. The police turned their backs on it. To be honest I would have taken a counter proposal.  The money wasn’t that important. I mean in the end I didn’t get it anyway so what does it matter. The police made the same mistake with me as many people did with Joran when they tried to make him talk. They jumped in and wanted everything on their agenda all at once. It was like trying to marry a girl before you had  dated. It just won’t happen.

They could have made a counter offer and I would have listened. It could have been something like: ‘Well we can’t grow the weed because we are police and that would be entrapment and we can’t give you the money because that is not in our budget, but when you hand us receipts of your expenses we can compensate them. How about making a new plan together to install recording equipment somewhere? We also hear there is a reward for information as to what happened to Natalee. We would give you a huge amount of credit in the press.’

That I would have considered. Hell, I would have gone for it. After all, the money would be nice but it was not my sole reason for doing all this. Then when we had wrapped up the Joran thing, they could have tried to get me as a stool pigeon. I would have never done it, but at least it would have shown some logical thinking at their side. From a simple beat cop, I get a thousand times better results than from the top police agency  in Holland. Frankly, the CIE should be ashamed. They should promote Frank. If there were a hell of a lot more like him the cops wouldn’t have an image problem.

So there I was back where I started and three weeks wasted. What to do now? The answer was pretty clear. I had thought it and the cop had said it. I would get in touch with Peter R. Devries. 

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PART TWO:  HAPPENINGS ENCOMPASSING 11/07 REARRESTS

Could it be that the November, 2007 rearrests of Joran, Deepak and Satish had everything to do with dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s in regards to the upcoming Range Rover recordings … the upcoming Range Rover recordings which had projected outcomes that would implicate ONLY Joran in a misdemeanour under Dutch law and … distance Deepak, Satish and Paulus from participation in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005.

Could it be that the most important projected outcome was to provide a measure of closure for the family?  In other words … silence the mother of Natalee Holloway who still had 37 years left in her 40 year quest for the truth regarding the disappearance of her daughter.


THE TIMING
 
ABC News - February 4, 2008

"Three days before I was getting my car, he was gone,'' van der Eem said. "Oh, and it was the most … pain in my life. Peter [de Vries], me…everybody was devastated."

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4236425&page=2


On the Record with Greta - February 08, 2008

VAN SUSTEREN: So what was the plan? When was the first taping? I think there was a little problem with the first taping. You planned it and then Joran got arrested?

DE VRIES: Yes, that's right. The day we were planning to do it, he was arrested.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html


NEW EVIDENCE

Fox News - November 22, 2007

Dutch student Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were arrested on suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway, the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312488,00.html


Fox News – November 27, 2007

Hans Mos, Aruba's chief prosecutor, told ABC News he believes the new evidence makes the case against the three men stronger than it was two years.  "We are convinced if we had had this evidence we have now they would not have been released by the court at that time," Mos said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313168,00.html
 

CNN/World – December 7, 2007

All three suspects, who were arrested and released during the investigation in 2005, were rearrested November 21, with authorities citing new and incriminating evidence against them. That new evidence has not been disclosed, but Mos has said it was gathered from advanced techniques used to re-examine existing information, including cell phone records and text messages exchanged the night Holloway disappeared.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/07/aruba/index.html


On the Record w/ Greta - November 27, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Breaking news from Aruba, Joran van der Sloot ordered to stay behind bars for at least eight more days. Now, the Kalpoe brothers already got the same news last week. Now, all three suspects were re-arrested. Why? The prosecutor has now charged all three with voluntary manslaughter of Natalee Holloway.

HANS MOS, ARUBA'S CHIEF PROSECUTOR:  And this decision to re-arrest these three suspects was a decision taken by 10 lawyers, by 10 lawyers sitting around a table (INAUDIBLE) whole afternoon, being presented the new material.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313168,00.html


NO NEW EVIDENCE

According to the Judges of the Aruban Court

CNN/Crime – January 31, 2008

All three suspects were arrested and released in the case in 2005. They were re-arrested last November 21, with authorities citing the new and incriminating evidence against them.
In freeing the Kalpoes from jail November 30, judges from Aruba's Court of Appeal wrote that there was no evidence Holloway died as a result of a violent crime against her or that the suspects were involved in such a crime. Using similar reasoning, a judge released Van der Sloot a week later

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/31/aruba.missingteen/index.html


According to John Q. Kelly

On the Record with Greta - December 4, 2007

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY: Well, in their press release and even in conversations. I had a long discussion with him (Hans Mo) Thanksgiving morning after the arrests, and you know, he indicated that they were very confident, this new evidence they had, this incriminating evidence. And it turns out, quite frankly, that it is nothing new ...

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So you can say with 100 percent certainly there's nothing new, right?

KELLY:  I can say it with 99 percent.  ... I think it was disappointing to me and actually extraordinarily painful and almost cruel for Beth and Dave after being down there.

They'd like to get some answers and they'd like to see some progress made.  And it's not fair to bring them down there with the false promises, with raised expectations, sort of a dog and pony show down there with no substance.

And it was — it just really took whatever spirit, almost, that Beth and Dave had left, went through that this weekend. It was really — it was terribly painful, for lack of a better expression.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html


Birmingham News – December 7, 2007

"The report of significant new incriminating evidence was misleading,”  (John Q.) Kelly said. "It was the same evidence or lack of evidence they had from the very beginning."

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2007/12/suspects_release_no_surprise_t.html


On the Record with Greta - December 3, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST:  Now the Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly wants action. In a letter to Aruban Chief Prosecutor Hans Mos, Kelly calls for the arrest of Joran van der Sloot. Joran's father Paulus and the Kalpoe brothers are also included ...

VAN SUSTEREN: It's your letter. What do you want from Hans Mos, and what have you heard from him?

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY:  Nothing but deafening silence out of Aruba. No, I haven't heard from him.

The point of the letter was, and if you remember last year, Greta, with great fanfare and press releases, and, you know, just all kinds of dog and pony show, they arrested the Kalpoe brothers and Joran for absolutely no reason, no new evidence. Just picked them up and held them for a month.

And now they have new evidence. You have a damning confession by Joran as to serious criminal conduct he engaged in, implicates others. And they haven't done anything with it. And everything Joran has said is consistent with the facts as we know them right now.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,460908,00.html


According to Beth Holloway

Dateline NBC - February 22, 2008

The three main suspects, Joran van der Sloot, and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were rearrested.

Dave Holloway broke his vow and rushed back to Aruba along with Beth for special meetings with prosecutors. They were asked to bring medical records.  To their horror, though, they say they ended up talking not about new evidence but were asked probing questions about Natalee’s character.

Beth Holloway: They kept saying that Natalee, you know, was a drug user … She's never had a history of drug use. She's never been in drug rehab. Yeah, I thought that -- then, they don't have anything. They don't have anything, you know?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/


The Dana Pretzer Show - December 21, 2007

Jug Twitty:

She (Beth) said that the prosecutor lied to them when he told them that there was new evidence.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2007/12/21/scared-monkeys-radio-daily-commentary-friday-december-21-2007-dana-reflects-on-his-interview-with-natalee-holloways-stepfather-george-jug-twitty/


The Lineup - December 2, 2007

Beth Holloway came in this morning about 9 o'clock, about 1/2 hour later than expected in a police station in the city Oranjestadt and after which she was put in a conversation with the prosecuting office, Hans Mos and Dop Kruimel After that was finished both the prosecutors left the office or left the police station and by surprise the interrogators came in and (inaudible) by Dolph Richardson the chief investigator, they started interrogating her which lasted for over 5 hours. She left not very happy and wouldn't say anything on camera. She left the police department about 2:30.
 
 
According to Dave Kock

PEOPLE – December 10, 2007

The prosecutors also have a new take on what happened to Natalee. Whereas before the three were accused of murder, the new charge is voluntary manslaughter, suggesting they now believe her presumed death was an accident. In any event a lawyer for Satish Kalpoe scoffed at the latest developments. "It seems like they shook the file, threw it on the table and qualified some things as new evidence," said attorney David Kock.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20170898,00.html


According to Ronald Wix

CBS News – December 20, 2007

But Ronald Wix, an attorney for the Kalpoe brothers, denied that prosecutors had new evidence.

"All they did was recycle old evidence and claim it was new evidence," Wix told The Associated Press, adding that his clients felt vindicated by the prosecutor's decision to drop the case.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/20/world/main3636049.shtml


According to Joe Tacopina

The Lineup - December 2, 2007

JOE TACOPINA, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT’S ATTORNEY:  There's no new evidence, look we're here in December now, they accept their own deadline for December 31. I've seen the 14 pages, there's no new evidence and there's certainly no new incriminating evidence.


FOLLOWING THE RELEASES

ABC News – February 5, 2008
 
It was after that December release that De Vries' undercover investigation began in earnest.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/Story?id=4239135&page=3


On the Record w/ Greta – November 19, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: How about Deepak and Satish Kalpoe?

JOSSY MANSUR: You know, they have played their part extremely well by being so quiet and so silent. I mean, they don't give out any kind of statement, no interviews, nada.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

PART THREE:  THE ARUBAN CONNECTION

Professional and personal conflicts of interests involving the father of the main suspect have been behind the cover up agenda within the Natalee Holloway investigation from the get go yet … Peter Devries who possesses an in-depth background knowledge of the case collaborated with the Prosecutor and the Police Commission in regards to the Range Rover recordings.

Could it be that Paulus van der Sloot and his son were either in on the collaborations or informed by the Aruban “powers that be”?


Dutch News – February 2008

Dutch tv crime reporter Peter R de Vries set up a fifth car trip to try and get Joran van der Sloot to confess to murdering US teenager Natalee Holloway after the Aruban public prosecution department said the original four recordings did not contain enough evidence, the Volkskrant reported on Saturday.
 
Aruban officials told De Vries and his team at a secret hotel meeting that the tapes did not contain enough new evidence, the paper says in a reconstruction of events surrounding the tv programme which claimed to solve the mystery of her disappearance.

Aruban public prosecutor Hans Mos told the paper he did not want to have anything to do with the extra car trip because he was afraid it could be construed as entrapment and blow the case.
 
The final car trip with Van der Sloot and his 'friend' Patrick van der Eem took place on January 29 in a borrowed car which had been hastily kitted out with recording equipment, the paper said. The original had already been sold.

During that trip, Van der Sloot said he was not sure if Natalee had been dead when a friend dumped her body at sea ...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/02/arubans_wary_of_fifth_car_trip.php


On the Record w/ Greta - February 8, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: All right. Now, when you showed that tape to Hans Mos, the chief prosecutor, what did he say to you?

PETER DE VRIES, DUTCH CRIME REPORTER:: Oh, he was, of course, very happy. And there was also the police commissioner, Dolph Richardson.  And when he was looking at the tape, he said to me, Can you please pinch me in the arm because this is what we are waiting for.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html


On the Record w/ Greta - April 5, 2006

JULIA RENFRO, EDITOR, ARUBA TODAY: Well, he (Dompig) actually said this last September that he was only suppose to be on the case for about six weeks. He was actually manhandling two positions by doing both the Noord district as well as the Oranjestad district. So, you know, this was a hefty handful here and Richardson who has been on the case since day one under Van der Straaten has continued on in Van der Straaten’s position.


Nancy Grace - October 4, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
 
JOSSY MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Nova - June 28, 2005

TWAN HUYS:  Do you know the people very well, for example, the people here from the public prosecutors' office that ordered your detention?

PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, for sure, because, before that, I have worked for eight years as chief of the cabinet of the prosecutor general.

HUYS: So, you also know the current prosecutor general?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

HUYS: Mrs. Croes.

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

HUYS: Yes, and what does that mean when your colleagues stop by to arrest you?

VAN DER SLOOT That gives a feeling of absurdity. It is indeed almost unimaginable that by someone you actually know very well, where you worked together with for a long time, that that one comes to tell you that you are suspected of complicity to murder.

HUYS: Who was that in your case?

VAN DER SLOOT: That was, in this case, that was the leader of the team of police commissioners.

HUYS: Jan van der Straaten.

VAN DER SLOOT: That was Jan van der Straaten, yes.

HUYS: And you know each other very well?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes

http://scrux.com/natalee/paulusinterview.htm


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[Tamikosmom]

Peter Devries has an in-depth knowledge of the dynamics encompassing the Aruban cover up agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway since the get go.  Why did this investigative reporter insist on upholding Hans Mos ... Hans Mos who did not detain Joran van der Sloot?  Joran admitted on the Range Rover records to a misdemeanor under Dutch law of disposal of a body.  Joran admitted to so much more.  He conceded he did not know if Natalee Holloway was deceased when she was dumped into the ocean.

It appears that the seven months following the Range Rover recordings gave Beth Holloway time to reflect and … obviously she has come to a difference conclusion than Peter Devries in regards to Hans Mos.

Janet

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February, 2008 -According to Peter Devries

02-15 -2008 / 11:30 a.m. (G.M.T.)
PETER DEVIRES – COMMENTARY
NO REARREST FOR JORAN: HOW DO YOUEXPLAIN THAT TO HER RELATIVES?

For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.

Peter R. de Vries

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-norearrest.htm


September, 2008 – According to Beth Holloway

Quote from: jen3560 on July 21, 2009, 04:16:40 PM

Natalee's Freebirds heard from this family member on Sept 14 2008 with the info that Beth was not at all happy with Mos ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg884344#msg884344


November, 2008 – According to Beth Holloway

NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOM: ARUBA INVESTIGATORS 'NOT FOLLOWING UP ON ANY LEADS'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Karin Janssen was the original prosecutor and Hans Mos took over. When she left Aruba, did she call you and sort of tie up lose ends, or did she just sort of vanish from your radar screen?

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: No, just absolutely vanished. I had no idea she was even leaving so quickly as she did. So you know, that's always been an issue, just no communication from the prosecuting attorney's office. And you know, it just leaves you wondering, you know, where are you? And you hear all this information coming them, saying that they're following up on every lead. Well, you know, that's just simply not true. They're not following up on any leads.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/aruba17.htm

November 11, 2009
 
Aruba Tourist Report: Aruba boycott is stronger than ever.

<snipped>


 http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/aruba18.htm

November 12, 2009
 
Aruba's Growing Deficit Is A Direct Result Of Natelee Holloway's Disappearance

<snipped>
 
 

BETH HOLLOWAY

March 25, 2006
Natalee Holloway: New Clues
Investigator Tells 48 Hours She Probably Died From Excessive Alcohol, Maybe Drugs

Last fall, Twitty called for a boycott of Aruba. The island’s tourism industry has suffered: Travel bookings are off more than 4 percent from a year ago.

Does she still support a boycott of Aruba?

"The only leverage that we have in getting any traction in the investigation is when they feel the effects of a boycott," says Twitty.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page2.shtml


PATRICK VAN DER EEM

Monday, April 14th, 2008
The ongoing boycot Aruba saga

I am not going into any claims of possible corruption in Aruba from the moment Natalee disappeared because I do not have the knowledge, nor the evidence, that there has been any official government corruption in this case. God knows if the father of Joran has used personal contacts to try to influence the outcome of the case when he was a judge in training. If so, than I would not call it official corruption, but the act of a man who is not even Aruban.

If it was a perfect world the bad guy would always go to jail, but it is not a perfect world. Yours neither Aruba’s. The boycott can go on forever, but at a certain point it ceases to be any good for anyone and that point started after I got Joran’ confession and Beth found peace after she came to know what happened to her daughter.

http://patrickvandereem.nl/stories/the-ongoing-boycot-aruba-saga/

[Tamikosmom]

Sorry for the delay all, things just a bit crazy.

I know many of you have wondered where the situation of the case is at with regards to Natalee and where Beth is in all of this. I had an opportunity recently to speak to Beth and will be visiting her soon in person.

The gist of the conversation that I can share is as follows. Do not give up the ship Monkeys.

Please know that just because you do not see the media covering the story does not mean that there is not things going on behind the scenes. Of course just like many of us, Beth is also interested in seeing what comes from the Kalpoe/Dr Phil lawsuit.

There is not much news out of Aruba, but that is to be expected from people whose wish is for all this to go away. I can say with much certitude that will not be the case. I cannot get into a lot of detail as I promised, but lets say that there are things being done in the background that I am sure Aruba will eventually not like.
 
When I meet with Beth some time in the future I do hope to get into a little more detail the status of Natalee's case in Aruba and whether the OM will ever prosecute the case. At some point they have to do something. If they close the case, then Beth gets the file.

Imagine what a document dump would look like in this case? It would make the one's out of FL with the Caylee Anthony case pale in comparison.

I do know in the future that Beth will need all of our help. As Beth said to me, you all have been such great advocates for Natalee and have kept the story alive. With some of the stuff that is being done, I know that the Internet and concerned forum and FP readers will be needed for organizational and grass roots movements.

Trust me, just because there is silence does not mean it will always be that way. Patience is a virtue.

Beth also said that one just never knows when Joran will slip up again. As I told Beth, with the BS that JVDS has been nailed with, the entire world including the folks in Holland know he is guilty. Many of those who once were his supporters gave up after his last efforts to get attention and admit his guilt.

Don't give up Monkeys ... don't ever give up. You have all provided Beth with a tremendous amount of information and sleuthing. Isn't that what ultimately what this is all about. Providing Beth with a beneficial service.

She thanks you all and looks forward to your continued help in the future.

 
January 27, 2008 - According to Beth Holloway

We've never really relied on an investigative approach to find an answer to Natalee. I think what we've relied on more heavily is that at any given moment something unexpected could happen and we really feel anyone could talk at any moment.
 
http://www.oprah.com/slideshow/world/peopleandpolitics/slideshow2_ss_politics/3


February, 2008 -According to Peter Devries

For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.

Peter R. de Vries

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-norearrest.htm


September, 2008 – According to Beth Holloway

Quote from: jen3560 on July 21, 2009, 04:16:40 PM

Natalee's Freebirds heard from this family member on Sept 14 2008 with the info that Beth was not at all happy with Mos ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg884344#msg884344


November, 2008 – According to Beth Holloway

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Karin Janssen was the original prosecutor and Hans Mos took over. When she left Aruba, did she call you and sort of tie up lose ends, or did she just sort of vanish from your radar screen?

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: No, just absolutely vanished. I had no idea she was even leaving so quickly as she did. So you know, that's always been an issue, just no communication from the prosecuting attorney's office. And you know, it just leaves you wondering, you know, where are you? And you hear all this information coming them, saying that they're following up on every lead. Well, you know, that's just simply not true. They're not following up on any leads.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

The main point being, do not think that this is over.

Its not even close to being over.

Please know that Beth is very much like me. She is plotting and does things in a methodical manner. In a phrase, she prepares her fileds for rain, so to speak.

Thanks Red.  I agree 100%.

Obviously ... the outcome of the Range Rover recordings that distanced Paulus van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers from implication in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway ...  did not appease her mother.  The volunteer boycott of Aruba was not called off and ...  continues to this day to affect the economy of Aruba.

As Keepthefaith would say ... TICK TOCK!  TICK TOCK!

Beth ... I never doubted you for one minute.  Somehow I knew that you had not given up your 40 year quest.

 

Janet

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PATRICK VAN DER EEM

Monday, April 14th, 2008
The ongoing boycot Aruba saga

I am not going into any claims of possible corruption in Aruba from the moment Natalee disappeared because I do not have the knowledge, nor the evidence, that there has been any official government corruption in this case. God knows if the father of Joran has used personal contacts to try to influence the outcome of the case when he was a judge in training. If so, than I would not call it official corruption, but the act of a man who is not even Aruban.

If it was a perfect world the bad guy would always go to jail, but it is not a perfect world. Yours neither Aruba’s. The boycott can go on forever, but at a certain point it ceases to be any good for anyone and that point started after I got Joran’ confession and Beth found peace after she came to know what happened to her daughter.

http://patrickvandereem.nl/stories/the-ongoing-boycot-aruba-saga/


A MOTHER'S VOICE THAT WILL NOT BE SILENCED

BETH HOLLOWAY:

'Scarborough Country'

I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


'Scarborough Country'

I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


'On the Record w/ Greta'

I met him (Prime Minister Oduber) in his office. And you know, the main things that we went over in the meeting, Greta — you know, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that — you know, Aruba is a small island. We agreed upon that. And this island, you know, it's well connected. Everyone knows everyone. And I wanted to make sure he knew there's no way that I will accept not having answers as to where Natalee is. And if I have to spend the next 40 years being the voice for her out of Aruba.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166524,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
 
We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over. They know—they have the answers there on the island.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/


'Scarborough Country'

I think it’s just the side that, you know, I—I will stop at nothing to get answers. There is nothing that I won’t do. There’s nowhere that I won’t go, and there’s nothing—I’m going to ask every question. I don’t care how painful it is. I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.”

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


'CNN News'

For the rest of my life, I will continue to be the voice for my daughter, seeking justice in Aruba. Every parent would want the same justice for their child.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/04/aruba.missing.teen/index.html


'Scarborough Country'
 
I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/

[Tamikosmom]

1.  THE RANGE ROVER RECORDINGS:  DEEPAK AND SATISH KALPOE

If the Range Rover recordings were a collaboration between Peter Devries and the Aruban "powers that be" ... could it be that one of the projected outcomes was to distance Deepak and Satish Kalpoe from implication in the events encompassing the demise of Natalee Holloway.  Think about it.  The Kalpoes possess the ability to blow the Aruban cover up agenda wise open by:

- exposing the extent of Joran van der Sloot's involvement in the demise of Natalee Holloway.
- exposing the extent of Joran van der Sloot's involvement in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body.
- exposing the extent of Paulus van der Sloots involvement in the disposal of Natalee Holloway's body.
- exposing the involvement of the sons of the elite who were detained as suspects in the case.
- exposing the involvement of Steve Croes and Geoffrey van Cromvoirt
- exposing those within the investigation who were participants in the cover up.

Janet

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ACCORDING TO PETER DEVRIES

THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent.  Joran declares with pride that he has abused them to create an alibi for himself. He calls them “very stupid boys’.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


Nancy Grace - February 7, 2008

GRACE: Peter, where do the Kalpoe brothers fit into this whole thing?

DE VRIES: Well, they brought him to the beach.

GRACE: Yes.

DE VRIES: They dropped him there, and Natalee, of course, and then they went home. And Joran was asked by Patrick, the insider, What do they know? And then Joran said -- and you have to notice his body language at that moment, No, they know nothing. They -- I told them nothing.

GRACE: So they just got dragged into this unwittingly?

DE VRIES: Yes.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/07/ng.01.html


ACCORDING TO JOSSY MANSUR

On the Record w/ Greta – November 19, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: How about Deepak and Satish Kalpoe?

JOSSY MANSUR: You know, they have played their part extremely well by being so quiet and so silent. I mean, they don't give out any kind of statement, no interviews, nada.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html


THE ARCHIVES

ACCORDING TO STEVE COHEN

Aruba Truth - December 7, 2005

A coalition of groups announced Friday the appointment of Steve Cohen to act as spokesperson to North American media, in regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance case.

AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June. He has a full knowledge of the case and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design Group that has served in an advisory capacity to both ATA and AHATA.

The goal of this action is to coordinate the responses of the private and public sectors to North American media.


Caribbean Voice - January 16, 2006

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (eTurboNews) -- ... Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance. "Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her. Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice," said Cohen …


Aruba Truth - January 29, 2006

There are concerns about the statements regarding the investigations view of whether or not any of the suspects had consensual sex with Natalee Holloway. It was not my intention to suggest that they had admitted any such actions on the official record.


ACCORDING TO THE GARDENER

Gardener - Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
Court Testimony - August 15, 2005
 
I have seen the car in the morning of 30 May of Sunday on Monday. I went to Lorena on Monday night, then I went to work, told that I saw a car standing along the way when I drove along there. I cannot remember on which day I saw the photograph of the persons in the newspaper. The photograph, which the police force showed me, is the same photograph as the photograph that appeared in the Diario. You ask me how can I know or recognize the persons from the photograph in the newspaper or that I had seen that night. The first time then I saw the photograph in the Diario I had been astonished and I said that to colleagues. You represent me that I have explained that I have recognized the persons from their construction and mail hour. You ask me if I could see from my position in the car. My position was a bit is higher, in the turning I had drive concerning a sand hill as a result of which my position was a bit slanted. As a result, I could look at in the car. I have recognized the car from the rims. Also to the color and the transparent squares. You ask me if I can designate the persons, which sat in the car. Yes.
 
 
Gardener - Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
Court Testimony - August 15, 2005
 
I looked and saw that on my watch it was at 02:30. For 03.00 I was at my work. I’m not sure exactly how precise it is. When I encountered the car in question, it was on that dirt road. I had slowed down to drive past there. The lights of my car "from" shining on that car. The person beside the driver, kept its hand for its head and face. I saw that the driver slid a bit to the back.
 
 
ACCORDING TO JOSSY MANSUR

Nancy Grace - July 26, 2005

JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, "DIARIO":  Because they were trying to hide their faces at that the hour, because we have to remember that the two Kalpoe brothers and Joran held on to the statement that they dropped Joran off at the beach and then went home. But here we have someone that says categorically that they did not go home, they were in the car with Joran. Joran was sitting in the driver`s seat.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/26/ng.01.html
 
 
ACCORDING TO BETH HOLLOWAY

Larry King Live - February 23, 2006
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  I know one thing that Deepak Kalpoe did in August was, when the gardener came before the judge of instruction to give sworn testimony of witnessing those three suspects together in the Kalpoe brothers' car that night at the pond, across the street from the Marriott, it was in front of the prosecutor, in front of the defense, the judge of instruction, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, Joran Van Der Sloot.
 
Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony. That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html


ACCORDING TO FREDDIE ARAMBATZIS

Freddy Arambatzis - Witness Statement - June 12, 2005

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub. Joran looked worried. He asked me if I could remember what he had said the previous day about the girl. I told him yes. The girl had gone missing. The FBI had been to his house during the night but he had not been home. His father had called him to find out where he was, Joran said that he was in the Raddison Casino. He told he that after that phone call he was called on the phone by Deepak and that Deepak picked him up a few minutes later. They drove to Joran's house. The FBI and the girls family were at his house.

After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and himself did not drop off the girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them drove to the beach at the north side of the Marriot Hotel. The girl had fallen several times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point she "no longer came around/no longer regained consciousness" and that they had left her on the beach. He also told me that he had left his gym/sporting shoes on the beach. After Joran had told me this, I asked him why he had left her there. He answered me that at that moment he had not known what to do. Joran told me that after this he was dropped off at home by Deepak and Satish.


ACCORDING TO THE MOTHER OF THE KALPOES

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 11, 2005

... To your question as to how late we got home, I can say the following. We arrived home approximately 02.20 hours.


Satish Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 11, 2005

My brother asked Joran if he was sure he would find another way to get home. Joran said that he was sure that he would find a way to get home. At that moment it was approximately 01.45 hours on May 30th 2005.


Nadira Ramirez - Dr. Phil Show - September 15, 2005

Natalee Holloway was last seen on May 30th with three young men, Joran van der Sloot and two brothers, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Two of Dr. Phil's investigators, Harold Copus and John Weeks sat down for an exclusive interview with Deepak and Satish's mother, Nadira. She requested that her face not be revealed and after the interview made several attempts to keep what she'd said from being aired on Dr. Phil …

"What time do you think they got in?"

"I assess that it was not four in the morning,” she says. "It's, like, before three or maybe three o'clock. How I know they were home? Because I leave my room door always open when they step out, so when they come they just close my door. And that's the sign that they are home."

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2732/?id=2732&isTip=&slide=1&null=null

[Tamikosmom]

It appears that the Holiday Inn account was fabricated prior the Beth and Jug arrival at the van der Sloots residence at 3:00 AM on the morning of May 31, 2005.  It appears that Deepak and Paulus were both participants in that fabrication.

Deepak and Satish hold all the Aces that are preventing the Aruban house of cards from collapsing.  They are in a position to implicate Paulus.  Is this the reason that the Range Rover recordings exonerated the brothers from implication in the events encompassing Natalee Holloway's demise and disappearance. 

Janet

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Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

MICKEY JOHN, FORMER SUSPECT: ... He (Deepak) said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: The father, too?

JOHN: All of them. They made up...

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say — Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?

JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?

JOHN: Well, I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161044,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

By his own admission ... Peter Devries possesses an in-depth knowledge of the Natalee Holloway case.
   
Does this investigative reporter not question why Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed complaints with the Aruban court regarding FBI assistance in the Aruban investigation if participation in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 was was limited to dropping Joran Van Sloot and Natalee Holloway off at the beach?
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LOG TXT FORMAT PDF PAGE 119 - 144

Name/Title: Complaint by Satish Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5 August 2005
File #: p-2005/03533
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Aruban Court
Responsive to Request 32

Name/Title: Complaint By Deepak Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5t August 2005
File #: p-2005103532
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator.. Aruban Court (Gerecht In Eerste Aanleg)

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YWJ
 

[Tamikosmom]

My love affair with Hans Mos ended on December 4, 2007 ... prior to the release of Joran van der Sloot from detention.  It was me who called it off.

ANYBODY who blames the family of Natalee Holloway ... for the failed Aruban investigation that had established a cover up agenda to protect Joran van der Sloot from implication ... does not get a pass from Tamikosmom.

Janet

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HANS MOS:  THE FAULT OF THE FAILED INVESTIGATION - FAMILY AND MEDIA

Holloway Attorney: 'Extraordinarily Painful'
Tuesday, December 04, 2007

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I sat with the prosecutor, and I actually thought he was a pretty smart guy until all this unfolded. But he told me that the reason the investigation had failed was because of two reasons. One is the family and bringing in the DA who happened to be there on the island at the time. And the other is the media. That's why he said that this has failed.

KELLY: You know, that's so sad because even now, as I speak, as I said, everything I might say based on conversations with him, you know, defense attorneys have had in their hands for 10 days now, two weeks. So it's nothing new being revealed here. And to — you know, he's the one holding press conferences. He's the one that sat down for the long interview with you before I ever spoke to you.

And you know, I'm sure he's a very smart guy, but he had no answers to any of the questions we asked when we were down there. It was kind of sad that even the first questions we started asking him, he had no answers to.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314966,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

A MURDER BY DROWNING OR A DISPOSAL OF A BODY?

Why is Peter Devries upholding the Aruban coverup agenda that implies that the ONLY wrongdoing that Joran van der Sloot confessed to was the felony of assisting in the disposal of a "body" which ... under Dutch law ... is a misdemeanor?

It appears that this investigative reporter is determined that Joran van der Sloot is not going to be implicated in anything more serious than the felony of disposing of a body.  WHY???

Think about it.  Peter Devries knows darn well that Joran concedes to Patrick van der Eem in one of the Range Rover drives that he could not be sure that Natalee Holloway was deceased prior to disposal.

Janet

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ACCORDING TO PETER DEVRIES

Peter Devries
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

At last Joran gives a complete confession, in which he reconstructs in detail what happened on the fatal night of the 29th onto the 30th of May 2005 on Aruba.

He and Natalee were dropped off that night by the Surinam brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe in their silver-gray Honda Civic nearby the Mariott Hotel on Palm Beach.  This is more than 100 meters away from the so-called Fisherman’s Huts, of which Joran talked about to the police.

After that he and Natalee were making love on the beach, when all of the sudden Natalee started to shake and seemed to have died. Joran dragged her body to some bushes that grow alongside the beach and walked up to a payphone near the swimming pool of the Marriot Hotel to call a friend.

Joran phones a person named ‘Daury’ who is half Dutch and half Aruban. A couple of other times Joran talks about the fact that he was helped by several other people that night.  Daury has a boat docked in front of the hotel in which he takes cruise tourists on ‘tubes’ and ‘bananas’.  Daury came instantly to Joran and together they quickly declared that Natalee was in fact dead.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


02 - 15 - 2008 / 11:30 a.m. (G.M.T.)
PETER DEVRIES - COMMENTARY
NO REARREST FOR JORAN: HOW DO YOU
EXPLAIN THAT TO HER RELATIVES.....?

If, during the drives, Joran had admitted to doing something to Natalee, this would imply a different – more serious – offence, which would indeed have allowed for detention on remand.

However legally correct this may be, this approach remains incomprehensible and inconceivable to Natalee’s relatives.  During five separate drives, Joran admitted to being present when Natalie died, that he didn’t go for help but rather had her body dumped in the ocean so that the police and her relatives could never find out what happened.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-norearrest.htm


ACCORDING TO JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

Range Rover Transcripts

PATRICK: How did you know she was dead?

JORAN: She didn't move anymore.

PATRICK: And Daury, did he check?

JORAN: Yeah, he stood over her and looked at her.

PATRICK: That's it? What if she was in coma?"

JORAN: Uh...I don't know. I didn't know [if she was dead], she could have been in a coma, I didn't feel her, but it didn't look good. I didn't know fuckin sure she was dead. Daury looked at her and said she was dead. He just looked at her and said, she's dead. Could've been a coma"

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[Tamikosmom]

THE SHOES

In regards to the shoes ... Joran van der Sloot could not keep his story straight.  Did he dispose of them on the route home or ... did he keep them?

Why does Peter Devries not acknowledge this discrepancy?  Why does this investigative reporter insist that Joran's words in the Range Rover recordings reveal the truth regarding the happening encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning Natalee Holloway went missing? 

Janet

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ACCORDING TO PETER DEVRIES

THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Together they carried the girl from the beach into Daury’s boat. Daury tells Joran to walk home. He, the friend, takes off onto the ocean where he throws Natalee’s body out of the boat into the sea. After that he visits Joran at his home, he has an apartment in the garden of his parent’s house, to talk about what happened. Joran tells Daury he walked back home and hid his shoes in a storm drain.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


Nancy Grace - February 7, 2008

PETER DE VRIES: Yes, I`m pretty convinced by that. Because it was not a slip of the tongue, what he did. He told -- he did a full confession on tape, not once, not twice but more than ten times. And he did -- there were some days between it. And they were very detailed, and so I`m convince that he told the truth.

Until now, Joran always denied that Natalee died in his presence, and now he confessed that. And he told what he did with the body, and he told how he came home, what he did with his shoes. It`s the complete story.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/07/ng.01.html


ACCORDING TO JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

THE RANGE ROVER RECORDING

1.  "I threw them away."

JORAN:  No.  These shoes I have thrown them away, I have thrown them away myself. On the way to there... on the way to home... 

PATRICK: You just took them off. 

JORAN: No, on the way to there, you have these puts (drains or manholes)... 

PATRICK: Riolering (storm drains) or something. 

JORAN: Yes.


2.  "I kept my them."

PATRICK:  All I can think is that there is something about those shoes that you do not want them to see.
 
JORAN:  No, of course not. I still have those shoes. I just told those dudes that I left my shoes behind.

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bblj

 
 

[Tamikosmom]

Peter Devries claims that Patrick van der Eem was paid $37,000 to cover expenses incurred in the making of the Range Rover recording.  Patrick claims he received $300,000 of the $850,000 afforded to Devries by ABC.

Janet

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Holloway Investigation Reopened

Van der Sloot was interviewed last week by the respected Dutch television show "Pauw & Witteman" following reports that De Vries had captured him making statements about the case.

"It is true I told someone. Everybody will see it Sunday," Van der Sloot said, referring to De Vries' planned television show.

"That is what he wanted to hear, so I told him what he wanted to hear," Van der Sloot said, adding that he had built up a relationship with the man he spoke to, but had never fully trusted him.

De Vries has said he paid the man Van der Sloot spoke to, Patrick van der Eem, $37,000 for his help, saying it was to cover his expenses.

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=32411


Posted: Sunday, 03 February 2008 9:44PM
Footage Claims to Solve Aruba Mystery But Informer Took $37,00 Payoff

Perhaps it is because the accused man said in advance he knew the informer, Patrick van der Eem, was a fraud and so lied to him. ...

De Vries admits he paid van der Eem, $37,000 for his help, but said it was to cover his expenses ...

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/1588314.php?


Disposed - Patrick van der Eem

... The ironic thing of it all is that I roughly got my three hundred thousand Euros after all but in a way completely unexpected. When Peter R offered me half of the rights on foreign sold clips I was told not to expect much. Endemol had no experience selling these clips and even if they did the shelf life of the product is short, only a few days, and seldom sells for much. No one could have predicted that Peter Schouten would walk in and in a matter of days strike an exclusive deal with ABC for 830,000 dollars. Endemol themselves managed to sell only a few thousand Euros worth in Europe. That delivered me just a few hundred Euros shy of the random number I pulled out of my ass for the police. Three hundred thousand turned out to be the lucky number in the cosmic lottery.

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thxJ

[Tamikosmom]

Patrick van der Eem's book DISPOSED reveals that this guys motive was big bucks from the start.  His meetings with the Dutch Police (CIE) was an attempt at negotiations in exchange for a confession.  Negotiations was also where it was at when Patrick approach Peter Devries.

Personally ... I contend there is nothing wrong in being compensated for a job well done but ... what I hate is deception.  Why does Peter Devries attempt to white-wash his and Patrick van der Eem's motivations in the media/talk show circuit?

Janet

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CRIME
Cracking the Holloway Case?
Meet the crime writer who believes he's solved the mystery.
By Catharine Skipp | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Feb 8, 2008 | Updated: 10:56  a.m. ET Feb 8, 2008

What is in this for van der Eem?
 
Patrick tells us he just wants to help solve this. He has two children and he is Aruban. He hates what this case has done to Aruba.

Was he compensated for his assistance?

We paid him 25,000 euros over five months.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/2

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[Tamikosmom]

Peter Devries ... the investigative reporter who has an in-depth knowledge of the case ... upholds Joran van der Sloot's claim that he and an unknown accomplish were the only persons who participated in the happenings encompassing the demise of Natalee Holloway as well as the disposal of her body.

What about the words of Steve Cohen?  What about the words of the gardener?  What about the words of Mickey John?  What about the words of Jossy Mansur?  What about the words of Freddy?  What about Deepak's own words in statements and emails?  What about the words of Beth Holloway?
 
All the archives that implicate the Kalpoes are negated when Peter Devries upholds Joran van der Sloot's words in the Range Rover recording as the truth..

Janet

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Newsweek - February 8, 2008

Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

No, not at all. On the tapes Joran calls them stupid. I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3

[Tamikosmom]

jen3560
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #826 11/07/09 -
« Reply #1813 on: December 08, 2009, 12:47:35 PM »

What do you Monkeys think?  I'm more than happy to send this to Peter....

Mr DeVries,

In studying what Joran vd Sloot told to Patrick vd Eem in the recorded discussions they had, we have run across some information you might find interesting.

What if the "Daury" Joran mentioned wasn't a reference to a person at all?

What if "Duarry" was, in fact, a boat?

Who on Aruba would possess such a boat?  Coast Guard?  Law Enforcement?

For obvious reasons, we do not feel comfortable trusting Aruban Law Enforcement to look into this possibility, and are hoping you still have an interest in seeing Justice done for Natalee Holloway.


Joran van der Sloot with Patrick van der Eem


PATRICK:  What's his name?
 
JORAN:  Daury
 
PATRICK:  Daury what?   Is he Dutch?
 
JORAN:  No, well, yes. Half Dutch, half Arubaans. Dutch mother, or something like that.

 
JORAN:  He said to me,  "This is a big problem".  But he has his own boat there on Aruba.


Duarry Boats

Astilleros Neumáticos Duarry S.A. is a Spanish company, founded by Juan Duarry Serra in 1968.
In 1950 the company manufactured latex products but in 1956 the production of boat in cotton fabric was started.
In 1958 the boats production range was expanded and the first boats to be equipped with outboard engine were manufactured. This year was the start of the production of inflatable liferafts for commercial use.Duarry was the pioneer in the manufacturing of Rigid Inflatable boats, with the first sort of boat manufactured in 1960.
 From 1966 to 1982 the range was expanded to the production of special products for military and civil use, such as flexible tanks, buoys, and inflatable product for the industry.
In February 1987 a fire destroyed completely the 9 floor building in the city centre of Barcelona. Since this year Duarry started a new era in Cornellà de Llobregat with the production of liferafts, commercial and leisure boats. Nowadays Duarry has a wide range of boats from 2 m. to 13,50 m. length made of Neoprene - Hypalon tubes and GRP hulls. The liferafts for both commercial and leisure markets are approved according to SOLAS and ISO 9650 with over 120 service stations around the world.
The Duarry's policy is to supply high quality products to our customers and a high standard in after sales service, being recognized by the most prestigious institutions around the world.

Astilleros Neumáticos Duarry S.A. is an ISO 9001-2000 certified company by Bureau Veritas.

http://www.duarry.com/english/quienessomos2.htm


Aruban Radar Turned Off, as Ordered by Law Enforcement

On the Record w/ Greta - November 19, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: And do you know -- and in terms of boats that night, do you know if any thorough investigation, one that you would have confidence in? Has that been done?

JOSSY MANSUR: No, it hasn't been done because that night, somebody in the police force told the people handling the radar that controls the boats in the vicinity on the coast of Aruba -- told them to put it off.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html


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