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« Reply #360 on: February 03, 2010, 08:30:53 PM »

FBI ANALYSIS?

On the Record w/ Greta - December 1, 2005


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN:  Dr. Phil and his staff stand by the tape they aired and claim Deepak admitted — and not denied — to having sex with Natalee. A representative for the "Dr. Phil" show specifically said that the show 1) Did not manipulate the Deepak tape in any way; 2) Did not alter what Deepak said in any way and 3) That they would give us [today] the tape they worked from so that we could inspect it to verify what they were claiming …

The representative also said the show stands by its position that Deepak said on tape, "You would be surprised how simple it was...." The implication of that quote is that Deepak had sex with Natalee.

We are also curious what the FBI has to say about the content of this interview. I was told by Jamie Skeeters on the phone the other night that he originally "taped" this interview directly to his computer hard drive and that he gave the hard drive to the FBI. Of course this hard drive — the "original" — is what will tell us exactly what was said or not said  — provided it can be adequately enhanced and analyzed. We don't have access to that hard drive so even after evaluating all the tapes and CD's given us, there could still remain in my mind some question.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'  - October 12, 2005

RITA COSBY, HOST:  Let me go to Jamie because, Jamie, the question tonight, as we heard from the deputy chief — he wants to hear these tapes.  He wants to verify them for himself.  Have you handed the tapes over?

JAMIE SKEETERS, POLYGRAPH EXAMINER: Well, see, that‘s the big issue here, Rita. I handed these tapes over to a very reliable company—it‘s called the FBI—a week or two ago. I‘m from the old school. I don‘t bring these things out in the public. You keep the integrity and the credibility of the evidence, and I can‘t think of anybody more credible than the FBI. ....

COSBY:  All of the tapes or just part of the tapes?

SKEETERS:  I turned everything I had over to the FBI, yes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9680121/

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« Reply #361 on: February 03, 2010, 08:38:32 PM »

It is my worst fear ... it is an ongoing nightmare ... that the Dr. Phil recording is not a reflection of the Skeeters' hard drive and ... this is the reason case documents from Aruba are requested  by McGraw's attorneys ... case documents which confirm that Deepak was not defamed by any manipulation.

When the Skeeters' estate was cleared of all wrongdoing ... I wish with all my heart that court had officially revealed exactly what was on that hard drive ... allowing all  speculation to cease.

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SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

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  To the extent that the Dr. Phil Show Defendants can be shown to have been negligent or reckless in the way they edited the show and thus potentially liable, there is no competent showing the Defendant Skeeter was so involved.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf
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« Reply #362 on: February 03, 2010, 08:45:11 PM »

I am anticipating the outcome of the defamation suit.  It is my prayer that the American Judicial System will confirm to the world ... beyond all speculation ... that Deepak uttered those enfamous words in the Skeeters' interview.

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'The Abrams Report' - December 2, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST: … I‘m going to play Jamie Skeeters‘ version—again, that‘s the actual one we got.  We went to Jamie Skeeters‘ office and recorded exactly what he had on his hard drive.
All right, so let‘s start with the—this is the Jamie Skeeters‘ version.  This is what actually came from the hard drive.  Here it is.
 
(BEGIN AUDIOTAPE)

SKEETERS:  Nobody told her that you can‘t (EXPLETIVE DELETED).  You know?  I mean and I‘m sure she had sex with all of you.
 
KALPOE:  Yes, she did.  You‘d be surprised how simple it was that night
.

(END AUDIOTAPE)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/
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« Reply #363 on: February 03, 2010, 08:55:01 PM »

I believe that once the defamation lawsuit has concluded and ... the Natalee Holloway case fades completely from media attention ... the Kalpoes' days on earth are numbered IF they do not come forward to the FBI with the WHOLE truth and seek asylum in the States.

Aruba and Holland cannot take a chance that the knowledge which Deepak and Satish possess pertaining to the events encompassing the morning when Natalee Holloway disappeared and ... those who participated in the events ... would be exposed at some future date ... exposure motivated by greed or conscience.  Either way ... the "powers that be" behind the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway realize that the Aruban house of cards would collapse.

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« Reply #364 on: February 03, 2010, 09:02:43 PM »

OPRAH WINFREY SHOW - January 27, 2008

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: We’ve never really relied on an investigative approach to find an answer to Natalee. I think what we’ve relied on more heavily is that at any given moment something unexpected could happen and we really feel anyone could talk.

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« Reply #365 on: February 03, 2010, 09:06:22 PM »

I  am having a difficult time regarding many aspects of this defamation case.  It is so hard for me to comprehend that the Kalpoes (Aruba) would have file this defamation lawsuit knowing that the outcome would reveal ... beyond all speculation that is out there ... that Deepak admitted to Jamie Skeeter that they all had sex with Natalee Holloway.

Anyways ... when all is said and done ... I am hoping my suspicions are wrong and ... the Kalpoes/Aurba are going to loose big time ... in more ways than one.
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« Reply #366 on: February 03, 2010, 09:08:53 PM »

Joran was lying through his teeth in the Range Rover recording when he stated that his father was at home sleeping throughout all the happenings encompassing the demise of Natalee Holloway.

When Beth Holloway's words are considered ... could it be that images of the major characters in the Natalee Holloway case began appearing in the media circuit and ... Madison recognized Paulus van der Sloot as the "older man" who was already sitting at the Black Jack table when Natalee and her arrived ... Paulus van der Sloot who was suppose to have left the casino during the Poker game sometime earlier.

Lies are meant to cover the truth.  What truth was Paulus van der Sloot covering?

Janet

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Katherine (Madison) Whatley
FBI Statement
July 12, 2005


After swimming at the hotel on Sunday, WHATLEY and other classmates, including HOLLOWAY, ate dinner at a restaurant next to the hotel. After dinner they went to the casino at the hotel. A few classmates were gambling at a card table along with an "older man" and YURON VAN DER SLOOT. (Whatley 302)


Beth Twitty
Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 19, 2005


HOLLOWAY TWITTY: ..... I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/


Jossy Mansur
DANA PRETZER
December 14, 2006


PRETZER: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?

MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2006/12/14/the-dana-pretzer-show-december-14th-2006-jossy-mansur/

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« Reply #367 on: February 03, 2010, 09:18:07 PM »

Consider I believe that justice will remain forever ellusive for Natalee Holloway ... two issues keep me keeping on.

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1.  If Kyle Kingman's own words regarding the happenings on board the Persistence encompassing the trap/cage along with the exposure of the ROV footage can bring pressure on Aruba to reveal the truth in regards to what was recovered from that trap ... the family of Natalee Holloway could received ... at the very least ... a measure of closure.  At the very most ...  my prayer is that Natalee could come home to rest on American soil.

2.  If the outcome of the defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw reveals beyond a doubt through comparative professional analysis that Deepak Kalpoe utter the disputed words in his interview with Skeeters ... the implicatons are huge.  Think about it.  Deepak is no longer a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case.

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THE SEARCH FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY - BETH HOLLOWAY
TLC – 2010-01-17


"What I can do is hopefully share some life lessons and prevent this tragedy from happening to another family.  So I stay focused on what I can do rather than what I can'tI can't get justice for Natalee".

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56293


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Page 197:  There is apparently no amount of money in the world that can get us the answer to what happened to Natalee.  When I asked an Aruban attorney about this, his response was chilling:  "The threat is bigger than the money," he says.  The Threat.  That dark influence.  The evil that nothing and no one can pierce.
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« Reply #368 on: February 04, 2010, 12:20:11 PM »

I believe that once the defamation lawsuit has concluded and ... the Natalee Holloway case fades completely from media attention ... the Kalpoes' days on earth are numbered IF they do not come forward to the FBI with the WHOLE truth and seek asylum in the States.

Aruba and Holland cannot take a chance that the knowledge which Deepak and Satish possess pertaining to the events encompassing the morning when Natalee Holloway disappeared and ... those who participated in the events ... would be exposed at some future date ... exposure motivated by greed or conscience.  Either way ... the "powers that be" behind the coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway realize that the Aruban house of cards would collapse if the Kalpoes talk.




If the Aruban "powers that be" do not stand in the way ... maybe Deepak and Satish will catch a flight ... leave Aruban soil for the last time and ... hightail it to the States in time for the disposition.

When the alternative is considered ... placing themselves at the mercy of the American Justice System ... in exchange for asylum/witness protection ... would appear to be in their best interest.

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« Reply #369 on: February 04, 2010, 04:59:49 PM »

If the Kalpoes are offered asylum or witness protection ... the Aruban Justice Minister would alledge that the FBI are interfering in an ongoing Aruban criminal investigation.  It would be a can of worms but ... after five long years ... Natalee Holloway's parents will have been afforded the "confirmed" truth regarding the disappearance of their daughter.

 
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« Reply #370 on: February 04, 2010, 05:01:30 PM »

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Post subject: Is our Skeeters recording fake?


I simply would not have hosted the recording if it had come from anyone other than the proper authority. Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be. They did not ask me not to reveal my source, however, I chose not to identify them, because I didn't think it would serve any useful purpose to do so at that time ....

So, I stand by the tapes, simply because of my belief (maybe naively) that the Aruban Police wouldn't be a participant in any irregularity of such magnitude ....

In spite of whatever suspicions I may have, after all the research and study of the documents I have done, my conclusion is : There is no evidence of any crime by Joran or Paul or the Kalpoes.

http://www.scrux.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=118


VIDEO - JAMIE SKEETERS/DEEPAK KALPOE INTERVIEW

While this must be regarded as unsubstantiated information, it appears to be the real thing, uncut and unedited. What was broadcast on the Dr. Phil show was edited and manipulated, to give a distorted view of what Deepak had to say. You will be amazed at the differences. However, we must say that we have not had the version we are hosting tested. We think that it is real. We received the complete interview as a compressed ".rar" file from directly from the Aruban Police. However, it would be good to have an independent professional, forensic, audiology laboratory check the recording to see if this version has been altered. We have not had such a test conducted, but would welcome just such an evaluation. That ".rar" file will be provided to any credible laboratory wishing to do such a test.

http://www.scrux.com/natalee/deepakskeetersvideo.htm
 

TRANSCRIPT - JAMIE SKEETERS/DEEPAK KALPOE INTERVIEW

Jamie Skeeters: Nobody told her that you can't f*** her. You know? I mean...
and I'm sure she had sex with all of you. And...
Whoop! (high pitched shriek)

Deepak Kalpoe: No. She didn't. (Shakes his head left to right five times)
 
Jamie Skeeters: Ok, well. I mean... good.  If she did (next syllable unintelligible)

(the sound after "did" cannot be discerned, obscurred by Deepak's "You'd")
 
Deepak Kalpoe: You'd be surprised how simple it was that night.
 
Jamie Skeeters: Really?

http://scrux.com/natalee/skeetersseg1script.htm


THE DR. PHIL RECORDING

Deepak:  She did.  You‘d be surprised how simple it was.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
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« Reply #371 on: February 04, 2010, 06:53:27 PM »

Thank you John Q. Kelly.  You have affirmed what I have been claiming all along.  The "alleged alteration of the tape" is what the lawsuit is all about.

Why are documents being requested?  Why is there a date for a disposition hearing?

A professional comparative analysis of both Dr. Phil's recording and Skeeters' hard drive could settle this case once and for all.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta - September 14, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: All right. So now back this up a little bit. Explain what this lawsuit is about and how your client was once in it and is now out of it?

JOHN Q. KELLY, ATTORNEY FOR HOLLOWAY FAMILY: The Kalpoe brothers claim - Deepak claims that when he was interviewed by Jamie Skeeters (ph), who subsequently passed away, he said on the tape that he was not involved in Natalee's disappearance and in no way did he engage in any sexual activity with her before disappearance. Deepak claims subsequently either Dr. Phil's production company or Jamie Skeeters altered the tape to reflect that Deepak had been involved in Natalee's disappearance and engaged in sexual activity with her prior to her disappearance. And therefore they have brought a lawsuit claiming libel, defamation, invasion of privacy and a lot of other claims based on the alleged alteration of the tape, a ledger alteration.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html


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« Reply #372 on: February 04, 2010, 07:29:59 PM »

It is my worst fear ... it is an ongoing nightmare ... that the Dr. Phil recording is not a reflection of the Skeeters' hard drive and ... this is the reason case documents from Aruba are requested  by McGraw's attorneys ... case documents which confirm that Deepak was not defamed by any manipulation.

When the Skeeters' estate was cleared of all wrongdoing ... I wish with all my heart that court had officially revealed exactly what was on that hard drive ... allowing all  speculation to cease.

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SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

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  To the extent that the Dr. Phil Show Defendants can be shown to have been negligent or reckless in the way they edited the show and thus potentially liable, there is no competent showing the Defendant Skeeter was so involved.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf


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« Reply #373 on: February 05, 2010, 08:59:53 PM »


According to the following log ... in August 2005 ...the FBI was able to identify Wendy Terry as Deepak friend ... Deepak's friend who contacted the FBI regarding his request for an alibi after the gardener's court testimony.

The indication is that Wendy Terry resides in Dallas Texas.  Unlike Aruban case documents ... hopefully these records will be forthcoming to Phil Mcraw's defence attorneys.
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From the privilege log, Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil:

Name/Title/Description: Interview with Wendy Terry
Date: 24 August 2005
Pages: 2
File #: 163a-bb-1426
Location: Dallas, Texas
Writer/Initiator: SA J. Brooke Donahue


Name/Title: Chat session review
Date: 30 August /2005
Pages: 6
File 4:163a-bb-1426
Writer/Initiator: SA William T. Clauss 2
Description: internet chat between Deepak Kalpoe and Wendy Terry
Location: Dallas, Texas



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  According to others present in the courtroom, Deepak appears very nervous when he hears the gardener's statement.  He panics.  And according to the FBI, contacts a young lady to ask her to lie for him.  The young lady calls the FBI in the States and reports that Deepak asked her to give him an alibi for the night Natalee disappeared.  They are trying to locate this girl.  She says she "doesn't want to get involved" and doesn't leave her name.  It's very hard to trace her number between international cell towers, but her information is riveting, and very, very important.


Larry King Live - February 23, 2006
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  I know one thing that Deepak Kalpoe did in August was, when the gardener came before the judge of instruction to give sworn testimony of witnessing those three suspects together in the Kalpoe brothers' car that night at the pond, across the street from the Marriott, it was in front of the prosecutor, in front of the defense, the judge of instruction, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, Joran Van Der Sloot.
 
Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony. That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html


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« Reply #374 on: February 05, 2010, 09:06:58 PM »

If Deepak Kalpoe had not been sitting in his vehicle across from the Marriott Beach at 2:30 AM on the morning when Natalee Holloway disappeared ... why would he require an alibi that implies otherwise.

It appears that Joran van der Sloots claim in the Range Rover recording that the Kalpoes only involvement in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 was when they dropped Natalee and him off at the beach could not be further from the truth.

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Nancy Grace - July 26, 2005

JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, "DIARIO":  Because they were trying to hide their faces at that the hour, because we have to remember that the two Kalpoe brothers and Joran held on to the statement that they dropped Joran off at the beach and then went home. But here we have someone that says categorically that they did not go home, they were in the car with Joran. Joran was sitting in the driver`s seat.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/26/ng.01.html
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« Reply #375 on: February 05, 2010, 09:08:07 PM »

Gardener - Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
Court Testimony - August 15, 2005


I have seen the car in the morning of 30 May of Sunday on Monday ....

I have recognized the car from the rims. Also to the color and the transparent squares. You ask me if I can designate the persons, which sat in the car. Yes. ....
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=271.msg41646;topicseen#msg41646


Gardener - Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
Court Testimony - August 15, 2005

 
I looked and saw that on my watch it was at 02:30. For 03.00 I was at my work. ....
 
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« Reply #376 on: February 05, 2010, 09:17:10 PM »

Nancy Grace - August 29, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  Beth, from the very beginning you told me on HEADLINE NEWS air that you thought Joran Van Der Sloot and the two Kalpoe brothers were involved in Natalee`s disappearance. Why have you thought that, been so sure from the very beginning?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well, you know, the main thing is, Nancy, is Joran`s admission on the night that we arrived on the island. First off. I mean, this is as early as 2:00 or 2:30 a.m. on the 31st, he`s admitting these sexual acts that he committed against Natalee in the car with Deepak and Satish. I don`t think it`s been a secret from day one.

GRACE: But why are you so convinced, because of their conflicting statements?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I mean, I`m not -- I mean, I`m convinced that early on he was already, you know, locking himself into this. I mean, nobody forced him to admit this to us. He just volunteered this information, came forward with a whole group of witnesses in front of two uniformed officers and DEA on the island.

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« Reply #377 on: February 05, 2010, 11:08:45 PM »

Long before the defamation lawsuit filed by Deepak and Satish Kalpoe against Phil McGraw there were media statements from the Aruban prosecutor's office alleging wrongdoing by the brothers.

What "strong" suspicions warranted the detainments of the Kalpoes in the Natalee Holloway case.?

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STRONG SUSPICIONS?

Deepak Kalpoe - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

Satish Kalpoe - 06/2005: Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

Deepak Kalpoe - 09/2005:  Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.

Satish Kalpoe - 09/2005: Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.


ACCORDING TO DUTCH LAW

Arlene Ellis-Schipper - Aruban Attorney

Nancy Grace - July 20, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: There is no grand jury in Aruba. It`s a different system.  You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/ng.01.html


Noraina Pietersz - Aruban Attorney

Associated Press- June 9, 2005


Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/

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« Reply #378 on: February 07, 2010, 05:48:21 PM »

Why did Peter Devries not want speculation directed on Lorenzo van Rijn regarding who the "Daury" of the Range Rover recording could respresent?

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Journalists have meanwhile started a chase on the ‘real Daury’.  According to crime journalist Peter R. de Vries, who gave the Holloway-case a new impulse last week with an undercover operation, the presented Daury Rodriguez is not the Daury that Joran meant.  He beeped away the last name of Daury in the footage of his investigation.  Daury Rodriguez denied having been the person that helped Joran van der Sloot dispose of Natalee Holloway’s body.  He was in the Netherlands when this happened in Aruba. 

According to the local radio station Cool FM and a journalist of the Dutch current affairs column Network, a half brother of Joran, a Lorenzo van R., does fit the profile.  He does have a boat and his name has already appeared earlier in the Holloway-file.  Peter R. de Vries has confirmed having heard of Lorenzo van R.’s name, but that he didn’t want to use him for his programme.  The Dutch programme Nova and other media have also mentioned other names, especially names of boys that often hang about the ‘surfing circuit’ near the Fisherman’s Hut next to the Marriott.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2578.msg343877;topicseen#msg343877


Dana Pretzer Show - June 18, 2006

Jossy Mansur:


I do know what our reporters have been able to find, Lorenzo is a half brother of Joran. He has a boat. He lives in a secluded section of the island, very close to Joran. I don't know if he was questioned, but people mention his name quite often in regard to this case.

http://sundaynightsatellite.libsyn.com/index.php?post_year=2006&post_month=06&post_day=18


Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

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  It was a flowchart with all of the suspects and interested parties on it.  He (Art Wood) noticed that one person who we thought was a suspect, Lorenzo van Rijn, rumoured to be Joran’s half brother, was not on it.  We had been told that he might have had some connection to Natalee’s disappearance.  He is supposedly known on the island by the nickname Xtacy.  Art asked him (Dennis Jacobs) where Lorenzo was, and Jacobs said that Lorenzo had nothing to do with Natalee’s case, so he doesn’t have to be on the flow chart.  We left, and Art commented on Jacobs’ reaction.  There is talk in Aruba that Lorenzo is a known drug dealer who lives in a compound on the island with a remote-controlled sliding gate, television monitors, and razor wire all around the top of the fence.  Apparently, you cannot get into that place.  It looks like a prison camp.  Since Lorenzo is suppose to be related to Joran, if the boys got drugs to give Natalee, they may have gotten them from him.



 
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« Reply #379 on: February 07, 2010, 09:25:26 PM »

THE CASINO TAPE

For the longest time I was a holdout in regards to the speculation that Paulus was involved in the unspeakable wrongdoing against the person of Natalee Holloway.  It was too much to comprehend.  Paulus' own words to the Twitty group on the morning of May 31, 2005 ... Paulus' own words that place him at the Palm Beach McDonalds at 4:00 AM on the morning Natalee Holloway disappeared ... convinced me that he entered the scenario following the demise of Natalee Holloway to protect his son from legal consequences.

However ... when the casino images were revealed ... casino images that captured Paulus at the Black Jack table conversing with Natalee Holloway ... I reconsidered my position.

Think about it.  Paulus claimed he left the casino during the Poker game ... prior to Natalee entering the establishment.  Why would he lie?  If there was nothing to hide ... why not admit that he had a short encounter with Natalee at the Black Jack table?  Why did Paulus attempt to distance himself from any connection to Natalee?

It should be noted that ... Joran van der Sloot own words on the Range Rover recordings ... akin to the Kalpoes ... absolves his father of all wrongdoing in the events that encompass the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning Natalee Holloway went missing.

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'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - March 21, 2006
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... He had initially told the witnesses that he himself had picked up Joran Van Der Sloot at 4:00 a.m. on the night of the 30th. But he later changed it about three weeks into the investigation that he did not pick up Joran at 4:00 a.m. on the 30th.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11959619/


Katherine (Madison) Whatley
FBI Statement - July 12, 2005


After swimming at the hotel on Sunday, WHATLEY and other classmates, including HOLLOWAY, ate dinner at a restaurant next to the hotel. After dinner they went to the casino at the hotel. A few classmates were gambling at a card table along with an "older man" and YURON VAN DER SLOOT. (Whatley 302)


Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - September 19, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: ..... I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/


Dana Pretzer Show - December 14, 2006

DANA PRETZER: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?

JOSSY MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2006/12/14/the-dana-pretzer-show-december-14th-2006-jossy-mansur/
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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