THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION

[Tamikosmom]

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #367 on: April 27, 2008, 12:38:30 PM »

I am amazed that the people who love or care for Joran do not yet see that he needs the help that can only be provided by him going to the authorities and telling the entire truth. Being rejected by society, labled as a criminal, all are taking a horrible toll on Joran that is going to fuel his addictions and push him further and further into a self destructive lifestyle. I would think his mother, and if he has a child, the mother of his child, would recognize Joran's needs, and see the benefit he would gain even from incarceration. Isn't an investment of five or so years worth a return of trhe rest of Joran's life? .... 

It is very telling that Beth's life is getting brighter every day, considering her loss, yet Joran the boy who "got away with it" is descending deeper and deeper into a self convicted sentence of life without parole unless he confesses. He will never, never be able to move on from this without repentance. Corny, yes, self serving, yes I want him to tell the truth, but is it the absolute truth, the absolute gospel, yes. Surprise, no, it is as the Bible teaches.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377586#msg377586

[Tamikosmom]

There were three events which happened in January, 2007 that took the focus off of the possibility that Natalee Holloway's remains were in the trap ... remains recovered unchalleged by Aruban divers on January 7, 2008.

1.  The Nicaragua lead
2.  The Pond Witness
3.  The Range Rover confession

IMO

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THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Joran phones a person named ‘Daury’ who is half Dutch and half Aruban. A couple of other times Joran talks about the fact that he was helped by several other people that night.  Daury has a boat docked in front of the hotel in which he takes cruise tourists on ‘tubes’ and ‘bananas’.  Daury came instantly to Joran and together they quickly declared that Natalee was in fact dead.

Together they carried the girl from the beach into Daury’s boat. Daury tells Joran to walk home. He, the friend, takes off onto the ocean where he throws Natalee’s body out of the boat into the sea.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm


Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman: "10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes I met Mos downtown in public"  During this time, I was eagerly waiting for results from the Jan-7th trap samples. I expected him to know something by then. When we met, he asked me how I was doing and he said that he was suprised that I was still in Aruba. After some small talk back and forth, he asked when I was leaving. I flipped the question around on him, asking, "Hans, you tell me. When am I going home?" With that, he hesitated. It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?" He looked around for anyone watching or listening, leaned forward and said into my ear: "ten days". He then turned and walked away without saying another word.

I had no idea what 10 days meant at the time, but it meant something big was going to happen. I had assumed it related to the trap and it's contents, but couldn't prove anything. Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes. I was really confused and didn't know what to feel. I honestly was a little dissapointed that the 10 days was about the confession tapes.

Credit: Kermit

[Tamikosmom]

DISPOSED - PATRICK VANDER EEM

In his book DISPOSED Patrick reveals that:

1.  the Dutch and Aruban authorities were informed in the beginning regarding his plans to secretly record Joran in the hope of getting a confession as well as the truth encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005.

2.  the November, 2007 rearrests of Joran, Deepak and Satish happened just as the secret recording were about to begin.

3.  he was provided with a list of questions for each of the January, 2008 ride ... including the final/extra ride which were the result of a meeting between Peter Devries and the Aruban "powers that be".

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Inquiring minds want to know:

1.  Could it be that Joran received a heads up from the Dutch/Aruban authorities ... the Dutch/Aruban authories who have been behind the cover up agenda since May 30, 2005 ... the coverup agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway?

2.  Could this possible heads up from authorities be the reason that in the January, 2008 Range Rover recordings Joran failed to:

- implicate himself in nothing more serious than the disposal of a body?
- implicate his father?
- implicate the Kalpoes?
- implicate all others who were detained as suspects in the Natalee Holloway case?

3.  Could this heads up be the reason that a cage disposal of Natalee Holloway was negated by Joran's own words thus implying that the contents of a cage recovered unchallenged by Aruban divers on January 7, 2008 were not case related.

[Tamikosmom]

THE KALPOES

I believe that Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were distance from implication by Joran's words in the Range Rover confess because these two had the ability to reveal the entire truth regarding the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 and ... also reveal all who participated in those events.

I agree with Klaas' position that the distancing of Deepak Satish by Joran in regards to any involvement in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway may also have something to do with the defamation lawsuit filed by the Kalpoes against Phil McGraw.

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klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
« Reply #494 on: February 27, 2010, 08:30:43 PM »

I haven't seen anyone here at SM that believes 100% of what Joran says whether it be the Range Rover story or the most recent falling off balcony story.  I do believe many feel as though with every lie is a smidgen of truth. 

It's clear to me that Joran is simply throwing stuff out there hoping it sticks and in the process making some $$.  He knows that he's already paid the consequence of unlawful disposal of a corpse.  Could be that the stories not involving K2 are in hopes of K2 getting a large settlement from Dr. Phil and sharing with Joran.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.msg1083973#msg1083973

[Tamikosmom]

lawyers for Mcgraw are requesting the Copies of all documents relating to the interview of Deepak Kalpoe on June 10th,2005 w ::dogwag::ith detectives Johnny Erasmus and Clyde Burke

klaasend
DEEPAK 06/10/2005 STATEMENT
« on: August 07, 2006, 11:51:52 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=215.0


PRIVIELEGE LOG TXT FORMAT PDF PAGE 70 - 144

Name: Deepak Kalpoe
Date: 10 June 2005 / 13:45
Pages: 8
Writer/Initiator: Jobny Erasmus & Clyde Burke
Description: second statement of D.S. Kalpoe as a suspect
Responsive to Requests 25 and 45

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1115.msg151856;topicseen#msg151856

I read over the Deepak Kalpoe's June 10th statement and I believe the following segment may be what Phil McGraw's attorneys are interested in.  It appears to have a relation to the the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil's recording of the interview.

Janet

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DEEPAK 06/10/2005 STATEMENT

To your question whether or not we pick up girls when we go for example to "Carlos & Charlies", I can state the following. Yes, we from time to time pick up girls there.

To your question whether these are local girls or tourists, I can state the following. They are tourists.

To your question as to who is the one who makes the first move towards the girls we are going to pick up, I can state the following. It usually is Joran or another friend with the name Freddy Zedan.

To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.

To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.

To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.

To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.

To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.

To your question whether it ever happened that the three of us had sexual intercourse with a girl, I can state the following. That has never happened.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=215.0


'The Abrams Report' for Dec. 1st
updated 6:00 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005

(BEGIN AUDIOTAPE)

JAMIE SKEETERS, POLYGRAPH EXPERT: Nobody told her that you can‘t (EXPLETIVE DELETED). You know? I mean and I‘m sure she had sex with all of you.

KALPOE: Yes, she did. You‘d be surprised how simple it was that night.

(END AUDIOTAPE)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/
 

[Tamikosmom]

When it is considered that the perception is that the "powers that be" in Holland and Aruba have been participants in a cover up agenda since May 30, 2005 ... a coverup agenda to distance Joran van der Sloot and his father from implication in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway ... it makes perfect sense that Joran was given a heads up in regards to Patrick van der Eem's secret recording plans.

Think about it.  In the Range Rover Recordings ... Joran failed to:

- implicate himself in nothing more serious than the disposal of a body.
- implicate his father.
- implicate the Kalpoes.
- implicate all others who were detained as suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.
- include a trap/cage in his account regarding the disposal of Natalee Holloway.

IMO

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Disposed - Patrick Vander Eem
 
Chapter 9

It took a week and a half for someone to contact me. As they say the waiting is the hardest part but there was nothing to be done about it since you can’t directly contact the CIE (Criminal Information Unit of the Dutch police which collects information on organized crime and big crime cases). They have to call you.

While I waited for this contact, I had time to think about what exactly I wanted out of all of this.  In my daydreams I put together the package deal to get three hundred thousand Euros.

I told the man on the phone that I befriended Joran with the purpose of getting him to talk and that it might be interesting for them if we speak. Within a week I had an appointment to meet two CIE agents.

... By the third meeting, same place, same time, I was really done with it. . Again they told me the money was impossible.

‘And what about Joran now?’  ‘Just go to Peter R. DeVries,’ the Moustache advised.

So there it was. The police turned their backs on it. To be honest I would have taken a
counter proposal. The money wasn’t that important

What to do now? The  answer was pretty clear. I had thought it and the cop had said it. I would get in touch with Peter R. DeVries. Why not? I would have to figure out how to contact him but that couldn’t be too difficult.

Chapter 11

We’ll work up some questions for you to ask but outside of that you can’t talk, just be all ear to what he has to say,’ Kees pleaded

The plan was set. I called Joran and told him that I found a place that might work for us
to set up the plantation. We made a date to look at it on Monday. Peter R and his crew
had rented the place for a few days. If need be we could rent it longer if I didn’t get
what was needed right away. Joran was brimming with anticipation

My cell rings on Wednesday the Twenty-first of November.  It was one of Joran’s housemates, MK. ‘Joran wanted me to call you. The cops just picked him up
and their taking him to Aruba.’

I received a phone call shortly after Joran’s arrest from the CIE. They wanted to know if I had anything to do with his being brought back to Aruba. That made my day. The police
intelligence agency of Holland in the dark on the whole matter. I told them no.

The public prosecutor’s office in Aruba ordered the arrest because apparently new evidence had come to light. Joran was being brought in and so were the brothers Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

Chapter 12

My sources in Aruba were better than anything Peter R. DeVries could set up. I knew in three days that they would only hold Joran for two weeks.

After two weeks, like clockwork, Joran was out as I had been informed.

I had been in contact with Kees and Peter to let them know about Joran’s release and phone call.  We needed to start getting things ready for Joran’s return in a week. That was when he planned to be back in Holland.

I was given a recorder so that my phone conversations could be captured. It was a James Bond type of earpiece that I wore to capture what was said on the other end. All very high tech. It also worked like a charm, because Joran was clearly anxious to tell me everything about Natalee after his release.

Chapter 13

After contact had been established with Joran again it was time to find out when he
was coming home. Every time I asked the answer was next week. It became a sort of
running gag. I would ask. He would say next week. Then I would let Kees know. Joran
would not give me a date. I would ask again and he would say the same as before:
next week. It was incredibly frustrating.

There were so many false starts in this period of time. Each time we had to take it
seriously. I’m not sure how many times they had to get the Range Rover and then bring
it back. I was frustrated and I know the Peter R. DeVries crew must also be pulling their
hair out. The tech crew had it all down now. They could get all the equipment in the car
in a matter of hours. Like a well oiled pit crew they operated at the drop of a hat. It was
impressive.

Joran was finally coming home. I got word that he would be in around the eighth of
January. As I thought he called me when he was in and we made a date to see each
other on the tenth. I contacted Kees and Peter the moment I knew. We had to get
things ready for real this time.

I could keep the Range Rover at my place. They would come in the morning and get things set up. I would go out and do my time.with Joran and then call when I was on my way back home. They would come back to my place and get the tapes and check over the equipment. That worked for me. Peter R had a list of ten questions he wanted me to ask Joran on this first trip.
Chapter 18

The footage from this fourth ride was the money shot. Although we still had no idea
who Daury was, everything else was beautiful. That was good since I could not do it all
again. I told Peter R as much. ‘I need a vacation. The family and I are going to Spain
for a few days. I have to get myself back together. I’m completely done with it. I have
made my last trip.’ The crime reporter was not happy with that. He loved my work on
the fourth trip

Peter and Kees would be in Aruba while I was in Spain. There they would make all the stand-uppers for the show, the text the host uses to make the story cohesive. Not an
easy job, because the crime reporter wanted to do it on the beach where Natalee
disappeared and of course could not film when people listened in to the wrap-ups he
used.

They thought it best to show the tapes to Hans Mos, the lead prosecutor there. They wanted to inform him about the confessions and get a response for the program. I would stay in contact with them the whole time. At this point I had no idea when the show would air and I wanted to know what the prosecutor would say when he saw the information gathered.

On January 19, I flew to Spain

Peter checked in with me regularly from the first day I was in Spain. The text messages were flowing back and forth. I now know why he has the reputation of a terrier. He is extremely persistent. There had to be another car trip.

The vacation ended far too soon and there I was back in the Netherlands. Joran called
me and said ‘Hey, are we going to do something? Am I going to see you?’ so I had
arranged to see him on January 29.

One of the questions Peter R put on my list was more detail about how he got home. He had said he got a ride from Deepak but that did not add up.

That night we hit the casino and the red light district in Arnhem.  It was really late when I decided to take him home we ran into a police checkpoint on the way out of the red light district.
 
I stopped the way I should and the officer asks for my driver's licence.  He asks if the car is mine and I say it's a rental because mine is in the shop.  Then he wants to see the paper work.  The rental agreement is listed to Endemol.  So I'm afraid the copy will say 'So you work for Endemol' with Joran sitting next to me.  I quickly step out of the car to talk with the police officer.
 
Another officer comes over and we all talk nicely and it gets straightened out.  No problems.  They let me go on my way.  Who knows, when they checked my documents they got a big 'leave this car alone' on their screen.


Arubans wary of fifth car trip in Holloway case
Monday 25 February 2008
 
Dutch tv crime reporter Peter R de Vries set up a fifth car trip to try and get Joran van der Sloot to confess to murdering US teenager Natalee Holloway after the Aruban public prosecution department said the original four recordings did not contain enough evidence, the Volkskrant reported on Saturday.
 
Aruban officials told De Vries and his team at a secret hotel meeting that the tapes did not contain enough new evidence, the paper says in a reconstruction of events surrounding the tv programme which claimed to solve the mystery of her disappearance.

Aruban public prosecutor Hans Mos told the paper he did not want to have anything to do with the extra car trip because he was afraid it could be construed as entrapment and blow the case.
 
The final car trip with Van der Sloot and his 'friend' Patrick van der Eem took place on January 29 in a borrowed car which had been hastily kitted out with recording equipment, the paper said. The original had already been sold.

During that trip, Van der Sloot said he was not sure if Natalee had been dead when a friend dumped her body at sea ...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/02/arubans_wary_of_fifth_car_trip


private eye
Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »

But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.

What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750


Nancy Grace - October 4, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
 
JOSSY MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


On the Record w / Greta - November 14, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well Greta, somebody is lobbying for Joran in the Hague in order to protect him ..... it has to be.


'Scarborough Country' - October 23, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.  They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. And there is a list of reasons, you know, why we know that is true.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/

yw ins?

[Tamikosmom]

THE COSMIC LOTTERY!!

Patrick Vander Eeem - Septermber, 2007

Disposed – Patrick Vander Eeem

Chapter 9

It took a week and a half for someone to contact me. As they say the waiting is the hardest part but there was nothing to be done about it since you can’t directly contact the CIE (Criminal Information Unit of the Dutch police which collects information on organized crime and big crime cases). They have to call you.

While I waited for this contact, I had time to think about what exactly I wanted out of all of this.  In my daydreams I put together the package deal to get three hundred thousand Euros.

I told the man on the phone that I befriended Joran with the purpose of getting him to talk and that it might be interesting for them if we speak. Within a week I had an appointment to meet two CIE agents. ….

By the third meeting, same place, same time, I was really done with it. . Again they told me the money was impossible.

‘And what about Joran now?’  ‘Just go to Peter R. DeVries,’ the Moustache advised.

So there it was. The police turned their backs on it. To be honest I would have taken a
counter proposal. The money wasn’t that important


Patrick Vander Eem - February 1, 2008
 
Disposed - Patrick vander Eem

Chapter 21

Friday the second of February the prosecutor’s office of Aruba announced that it would reopen the Holloway case

The night before Peter Schouten had sealed an exclusive deal with ABC in his hotel room with a handwritten contract. After the interview he told me the amount he sold the rights for to ABC. I was astonished and had to pinch myself in my arm.

Chapter 23

The ironic thing of it all is that I roughly got my three hundred thousand Euros after all but in a way completely unexpected. When Peter R offered me half of the rights on foreign sold clips I was told not to expect much. Endemol had no experience selling these clips and even if they did the shelf life of the product is short, only a few days, and seldom sells for much. No one could have predicted that Peter Schouten would walk in and in a matter of days strike an exclusive deal with ABC for 830,000 dollars.  That delivered me just a few hundred Euros shy of the random number I pulled out of my ass for the police. Three hundred thousand turned out to be the lucky number in the cosmic lottery.
 
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13561414/Patrick-van-der-Eem-book


Peter Devries - February 8, 2008
 
CRIME
Cracking the Holloway Case?
Meet the crime writer who believes he's solved the mystery.
Feb 8, 2008

What is in this for van der Eem?
 
Patrick tells us he just wants to help solve this. He has two children and he is Aruban. He hates what this case has done to Aruba.

Was he compensated for his assistance?

We paid him 25,000 euros ($37,000) over five months.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/2

[Tamikosmom]

Tuesday - June 1, 2010 is the deadline 

 

Thanks for the reminder Klaas.

According to John Kelly ... the Kalpoes' attorney make it clear from the getgo that no case documents would be forthcoming and ... three years later the case still has not been dismissed for non-compliance.

Maybe the disputed segment of McGraw's recording will have to stand alone.  Maybe  McGraw's attorneys will be required to prove to the court that the recording was not deceptively manipulated.  Maybe there will be a negotiated settlement.

MAYBE THE COURT WILL DISMISS THE DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST PHIL MCGRAW.

 

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Brothers Questioned in Holloway Case Sue Dr. Phil
Judge Refuses to Dismiss Holloway-Related Suit Against CBS and 'Dr. Phil' McGraw
LOS ANGELES Feb 6, 2008 (AP)

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom. ....
 
The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/WireStory?id=4248025&page=2


Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007

JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

Comparison at the beach and at the casino next to Natalee.

THE CASINO VIDEO

Paulus claimed he left the casino during the Poker game prior to Natalee entering the establishment.  Why would he lie?  If there was nothing to hide ... why not admit that he had a short encounter with Natalee at the Black Jack table?  Why did Paulus attempt to distance himself from any connection to Natalee?

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Witness Statement - Paulus van der Sloot - June 18, 2005

On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=237.0


Katherine (Madison) Whatley
FBI Statement - July 12, 2005

After swimming at the hotel on Sunday, WHATLEY and other classmates, including HOLLOWAY, ate dinner at a restaurant next to the hotel. After dinner they went to the casino at the hotel. A few classmates were gambling at a card table along with an "older man" and YURON VAN DER SLOOT. (Whatley 302)


Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - September 19, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: ..... I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/


Dana Pretzer Show - December 14, 2006

DANA PRETZER: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?

JOSSY MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2006/12/14/the-dana-pretzer-show-december-14th-2006-jossy-mansur/


The Lineup - June 9, 2006   

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE: It has been one year since the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Unfortunately we are left now with more questions than answers. What we do know is that Joran and the Kalpoe brothers were the last people seen with Natalee Holloway, which is the reason why they still remain to this day the main suspects in the case. As for Paulus, sources say he is the person next to Natalie in the casino.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198887,00.html


Rita Cosby Live & Direct - April 4, 2006

RITA COSBY, HOST:  John, first of all, is there a possibility that Paulus might have been talking to Natalee the night that she disappeared?

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY FAMILY ATTORNEY: Well, if you look at the surveillance video footage, it appears that he’s the one sitting directly next to her and tries to engage her in conversation a couple of times.

And it’s sort of ironic that it’s his father who brought his underage son to a casino and left him there after he left, with access to his line of credit, to put this unfortunate chain of events in process. ....

COSBY:  And did he ever say that he had talked to Natalee or not before? 

KELLY:  No, it’s never even been addressed before whether or not that’s Paulus in the videotape there sitting next to her.  And it certainly appears to be to me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12150698/

 
ABC7CHICAGO - February 23, 2006

(Michael) Posner says it was he who voluntarily turned over this casino surveillance tape to Aruban authorities and that he is furious they have allowed ABC News to broadcast it.
 
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=investigative&id=3936339&ft=print


Paulus Van der Sloot and the Man at the Excelsior Casino … You Make the call
Posted May 9, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/05/09/paulus-van-der-sloot-and-the-man-at-the-excelsior-casino-you-make-the-call/

[Tamikosmom]

[Tamikosmom]

Natalee Holloway's father knew it was just a matter of time.  Hey ... everybody knew it was just a matter of time.  It is so sad that another life had to be the catalyst.

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Nancy Grace - February 7, 2008

NANCY GRACE, HOST: .... But do you believe, Dave, at this juncture, after this secretly taped confession, he`s got to either say, I was lying when I was on tape, or she died, your daughter, died of some type of a convulsion and (INAUDIBLE) Is he locked into that statement?

DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER:  I`d be surprised if he tells the truth this time. I think his pattern is the same pattern, try and lie and get his way out of it. He`s tried to avoid this justice system for a long time, and you know, it - - I`m afraid it`s going to come back and haunt him some day.

http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/07/ng.01.html

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Nancy Grace - February 8, 2008

NANCY GRACE, HOST: When you saw this and you heard him refer to her as a bitch and a whore, what was your response?

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: God! I mean, Nancy, it`s just -- when I hear Joran talking about her like that -- my gosh, he just -- you know, first you want to come through the TV I want to kill him, I mean, and peel his skin off his face. And I think of the utter disregard he had for Natalee. And look what he`s done to his friends. Look what he`s done to a country. Look what he`s done to everyone. ....

I mean, he has just totally, totally dragged us all through hell with him, this Joran Van Der Sloot. It`s just despicable what he has done. It`s a sad form of a human existence, if you ask me, Joran is.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/08/ng.01.html

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No documents filed yet that can be retreived but this online in the K2 case:

06/02/2010 Ex-Parte Application (FOR ORDER EXTENDING DEADLINE FOR PLAINTIFFS' DEPO OR ALLOWING THEM TO PROCEED IN ARUBA )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

06/02/2010 Opposition Document (TO PLNTF'S EX PARTE RE: DEPO )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


The judge already said NO!

[Tamikosmom]

Got it. Beth on Greta, November 19, 2008:

HOLLOWAY: Yes. And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

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As you know, the judge ruled that the Kalpoes had to come to California to give their depositions.  The Kalpoes were given until 6/1/2010 to do this.  They filed a request for an extension the end of May and I've been waiting for those documents and the decision to be filed.  The docs (request/22pgs and response/32 pages) have been file and a 4 page decision was filed.  Here are 2 of the important pages of that decision.  Not sure what happens next:

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More in the recent documents filed in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case in California.  Just the first main pages of the request/reply/decisions:

KALPOES REQUEST TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE TO GIVE THEIR DEPOSITIONS




DR PHIL/CBS RESPONSE TO THEIR REQUEST






AS POSTED LAST NIGHT - THE JUDGES ORDER DENYING THE REQUEST

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Dutch youth lives under shadow of Holloway case 5 years laterBy the CNN Wire Staff
June 10, 2010 7:22 p.m. EDT

In 2008, a videotape surfaced on Dutch television. In it, van der Sloot tells a man he thought was a friend he had sex with Holloway on the beach after leaving the nightclub, then she "started shaking" and lost consciousness. He said he panicked when he could not resuscitate her and called a friend who had a boat. The two put Holloway in the boat, van der Sloot said, and he went home. The friend told him the next day that he had carried the body out and dumped it into the ocean.

"I don't lose a minute of sleep over it," van der Sloot said.

He later claimed the account was a lie, saying he told the man what he wanted to hear. A court ruled there was not enough evidence to re-arrest him. Aruba chief prosecutor Peter Blanken said the story was "unbelievable and not true."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/03/holloway.suspect.profile/index.html

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06/10/2010 Order  (ORDER EXTENDING DEADLINE FOR PLNTFS' DEPO, OR ALLOWING THEM TO PROCEED IN ARUBA )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

06/10/2010 Ex-Parte Application (FOR ORDER EXTENDING DEADLINE FOR PLAINTIFF'S DEPOSITION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

06/10/2010 Opposition Document
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

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Looks like the judge has granted a 3 month extension for the Kalpoes to come to LOS ANGELES to give their depositions.  This is actually great in light of the recent events.  It will give the Kalpoes three more months to sweat about it.