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« Reply #580 on: August 28, 2010, 02:49:44 PM »


I DIDN'T KNOW F------ SURE SHE WAS DEAD! (Continued)

According to Natalee Holloway's Mother

The Complete Interview with Beth Twitty
Thursday 31 January 2008


Peter R. DeVries: Its a full confession.

Beth Twitty: He doesnt even care, he doesnt even care that, oh they didnt even know if she was dead. Oh my gosh. They didnt even know.

Peter R. DeVries: Did you notice how he talked about her?

Beth Twitty: Yeah, the dont even know. Oh my god they could have dumped her alive in the ocean, just unconscious. I mean they dont even know.

Peter R. DeVries: Maybe in coma, or

Beth Twitty: They dont even know. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh dear God, he didnt even know. ...

http://www.peterrdevries.com/quote-beth.htm


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« Reply #581 on: August 28, 2010, 08:29:52 PM »

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - Former Suspects

It appears that Hans Mos made the decision not to detain Joran van der Sloot in regards to his "confession" captured in the Range Rover recording.  The reason?  Without backup evidence ... Joran has no credibility ... he cannot be believe.

However ... Joran's words in the same Range Rover recording which imply that Deepak and Satish Kalpoe had no involvement in the happenings encompassing the demise of Natalee Holloway somehow are believed ... are considered credible.

On January 6, 2009 ... Hans Mos referred to the Kalpoe brothers as "previous" suspect in the case.

Justice for Natalee Holloway never stood a chance!

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No Credibility

Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement


Ladies and gentlemen!

The fact that Joran has supplied the Police with a motive for his lying behavior and the fact that he has admitted that he often is not telling the truth, makes, according to the Court of Appeal, that the self incriminating new statements of Joran are devaluated.

In short: there is no corroborating evidence for the new self incriminating statements of Joran and the value of these statements is undermined by his own statement about his credibility.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg614673#msg614673


Credible

Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement


Ladies and gentlemen!

The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway

Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are jerks who dont know anything about what had happened .

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg614673#msg614673

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« Reply #582 on: August 28, 2010, 08:36:22 PM »

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe - Former Suspects!  (Continued)

Peter Devries and Hans Mos concur.

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Newsweek - February 8, 2008

Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

PETER DEVIRES:  No, not at all.  On the tapes Joran calls them stupid.  I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3

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« Reply #583 on: August 28, 2010, 09:16:26 PM »


A Time Bomb!

The Aruban judges refusal to ruled in favor of the apprehension of Joran van der Sloot based on his words in the Range Rover recording ... words that conceded that a live Natalee Holloway may have been thrown into the ocean ... ultimately led to the death of a young lady named Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez.

Joe Tacopina's arrogance/smugness in regard to Joran not being held accountable by the Aruban Justice System was at the expense of an innocent young lady named Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez.

On February 15, 2008 ... Natalee Holloway's stepfather revealed that knew that it was just a matter of time.

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Nancy Grace - February 15, 2008

JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S STEPFATHER:  ... I`ll tell you what really made me sick today to be honest with you is to see his U.S. attorney, Joe Tacopina, whoever, who has been kind of hiding for the last week because he didn`t know what was going to happen all of a sudden come on and he`s all over the TV now. And he is just saying, you know, with a smirk on his face, which just it makes me sick ... I told you so, nothing was going to happen. When he knows Joran is a time bomb just waiting to blow up.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/15/ng.01.html


Natalee Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Sought in Peru Murder
Dutch National Last to Be Seen with Murdered Woman, on the Lam in South America
June 2, 2010


Joran van der Sloot, the 22-year-old Dutch playboy twice arrested in the mysterious disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, has been named the prime suspect in the death of a young Peruvian woman found dead in a Lima hotel today, five days after she disappeared.

Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21, disappeared Friday and was found dead this morning at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima, Peru. Flores was last seen with van der Sloot, the Dutch national who was twice arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of Holloway , an 18-year-old American student who went missing in Aruba five years ago this week.

Flores was found beaten and stabbed to death in a room booked in van der Sloot's name, according to Dutch media reports.

Authorities believe van der Sloot has fled Peru, passing through customs into Chile, and is on his way to Argentina. Peruvian officials are in the process of putting together an international warrant, Dutch foreign ministry officials told ABC News.

Van Der Sloot reportedly entered Peru on May 14 and left on May 31

Flores left a friend's home Wednesday morning and was last seen that evening leaving a casino with Van der Sloot, according local media quoting to the woman's father, Ricardo Flores, a Peruvian businessman and racecar driver. Surveillance cameras caught the pair leaving the casino together.

Holloway similarly disappeared after being last seen with Van der Sloot outside an Aruban night club on May 30, 2005. Van der Sloot was initially arrested in Holloway's disappearance in June of that year. He was released and arrested again in 2007, when he was detained for questioning but never charged.

In 2008, Dutch journalist Peter de Vries claimed he solved the case when Van der Sloot confessed to an undercover reporter to being with Holloway when she died and dumping her body in the Caribbean Sea.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/TheLaw/joran-van-der-sloot-prime-suspect-natalee-holloway/story?id=10807407


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« Reply #584 on: August 30, 2010, 11:26:19 AM »

Most recent filing in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case:





This case wil drag on for another 5 years! Why would Dr. Phil's team agree to this??????????????????????????????????????
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« Reply #585 on: August 30, 2010, 12:56:23 PM »


 
This case wil drag on for another 5 years! Why would Dr. Phil's team agree to this??????????????????????????????????????


Wreck

Could it be that there are legal arguments of merit taking place behind the scenes by the Kalpoes' attorneys ... legal agruments of merit which imply that the Phil McGraw recording must stand alone in the defamation case without backup documentation derived from the Natalee Holloway case file.

Somehow it makes sense to me that the Kalpoes' attorneys would not have filed this defamation lawsuit if it were not a certainty that a professional comparison between Skeeters' hard drive and McGraw's recorded copy would reveal manipulation ... not editing.

Therefore ... the question requires an official answer ... "Was the Phil McGraw recording deceptively manipulated?"  Yes?  No?

Could it be that ... from the getgo ... the Kalpoes' attorneys anticipated a negotiated settlement?

Considering that four years later ... following one extention after another ... the defamation lawsuit has not been thrown out by the court in regards to ongoing non-compliance ... considering a signed declaration at the getgo forewarned the court that case documentation would not be forthcoming ... could it be that the anticipated outcome will come to pass?  The possibility this may happen is my worst nightmare come true.

If Phil McGraw emerges the victor in this defamation lawsuit filed by Deepak and Satish Kalpoe ... I will gladly eat an entire crow pie in regards to my doubts.

Janet

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THE ALTERED PORTIONS?

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


A SWORD AND A SHIELD

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html


POTENTIALLY LIABLE?

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

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  To the extent that the Dr. Phil Show Defendants can be shown to have been negligent or reckless in the way they edited the show and thus potentially liable, there is no competent showing the Defendant Skeeter was so involved.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf

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« Reply #586 on: August 30, 2010, 02:29:31 PM »

Could the Range Rover recording have ... intentionally or unintentionally ... furthered the possibility of a postive outcome for Deepak and Satish in the defamation case filed against Phil McGraw?

Playing the devil's advocate ... if the Phil McGraw recording was manipulated ... the ante could have been upped thanks to Joran's words in the Range Rover recording.  The possible defence could now be that two young men were defamed who ... according to the Prosecutor's office ... are no longer suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

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EXONERATES MY BOYS!

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

The ruling came a day after ABC's "20/20" aired a secretly recorded conversation involving Joran Van der Sloot ....

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


RECEIVED AN ALIBI!

Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement


Ladies and gentlemen!

The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway

Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are jerks who dont know anything about what had happened .

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg614673#msg614673


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« Reply #587 on: August 30, 2010, 02:41:06 PM »

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I haven't seen anyone here at SM that believes 100% of what Joran says whether it be the Range Rover story or the most recent falling off balcony story.  I do believe many feel as though with every lie is a smidgen of truth. 

It's clear to me that Joran is simply throwing stuff out there hoping it sticks and in the process making some $$.  He knows that he's already paid the consequence of unlawful disposal of a corpse.  Could be that the stories not involving K2 are in hopes of K2 getting a large settlement from Dr. Phil and sharing with Joran.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7126.msg1083973#msg1083973
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« Reply #588 on: August 30, 2010, 02:58:27 PM »


If the McGraw tape was not manipulated ... only edited ... why after four years  has Phil McGraw not emerged the winner in this defamation lawsuit.  It only take a professional comparison with Skeeters' hard drive to determine that Deepak defamed himself?

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« Reply #589 on: August 30, 2010, 03:17:09 PM »

Why has this defamation case dragged on for four long years when all it would take is a comparison between the McGraw recording and Skeeters' hard drive to reveal the truth one way or another regarding the "altered" portions.
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THE ALTERED PORTIONS?

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html
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« Reply #590 on: August 30, 2010, 03:44:41 PM »

He says! She says! Speculation!  Debate!  It should all be non issues when a comparison of two pieces of hard evidence has the ability to reveal the truth.

Janet

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Tale of the Tape Thursday
December 01, 2005


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN:  We are also curious what the FBI has to say about the content of this interview. I was told by Jamie Skeeters on the phone the other night that he originally "taped" this interview directly to his computer hard drive and that he gave the hard drive to the FBI. Of course this hard drive the "original" is what will tell us exactly what was said or not said  provided it can be adequately enhanced and analyzed.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html
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« Reply #591 on: August 30, 2010, 05:06:22 PM »


Somehow it makes sense to me that the Kalpoes' attorneys would not have filed this defamation lawsuit if it were not a certainty that a professional comparison between Skeeters' hard drive and McGraw's recorded copy would reveal manipulation ... not editing.

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JAMIE SKEETERS EXONERATED!

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

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  To the extent that the Dr. Phil Show Defendants can be shown to have been negligent or reckless in the way they edited the show and thus potentially liable, there is no competent showing the Defendant Skeeter was so involved.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf


Could it be that the NFI's claims regarding findings encompassing the Jamie/Deepak interview is what motivated the defamation lawsuit.  When the ATA/AHATA and/or the Kalpoes' attorneys considered the Phil McGraw financial  empire ...did the light dawn that an opportunity had presented itself which would allow Aruba to recoup the costs the Island had incurred in regards to the Natalee Holloway case?

Could it be that that ATA/AHATA and/or the Kalpoes' attorneys were deceived by the NFI's claims?

Janet

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THE TRUTH ... WHAT IS IT?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 
By Greta Van Susteren


To begin with, and as you may know, Dr. Phil paid polygrapher Jamie Skeeters to go to Aruba and investigate Natalee Holloway's disappearance. It is Skeeters' trip to Aruba that is at the center of a current dispute in the Natalee Holloway disappearance. ....

Did Deepak admit on the tape to having sex with Natalee or did he deny it? On the "Dr. Phil" show, it was claimed that Deepak admitted on tape to having sex with Natalee. The authorities in Aruba disagree and assert that on the original tape Deepak actually denies, not admits, to having had sex with Natalee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.

However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word she, there was a cut. And just after the word did, there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, No, she didn't. And he shakes his head while doingwhile saying that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/

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« Reply #592 on: August 30, 2010, 06:09:55 PM »

According to John Kelly ... the Kalpoes' attorneys never had any intentions of releasing incriminating documentation relating to the Natalee Holloway case.  I do not believe that the Kalpoes have any intentions of testifying before an American judge.  Their silence is a given.

Four years later ... after many granted extentions to comply ... the judge has failed to throw out the defamation lawsuit.  Why?  Could it be that the Kalpoes' attorneys are legally challenging the request by McGraw's attorneys for case documents?  Could it be they are citing that case document are irrelevent to the lawsuit?

In other words ... the issue is whether of not Phil McGraw manipulated the recording that was received from Jamie Skeeters ... an issue that a professional comparison of the McGraw manipulated/edited recording and ... Skeeters hard drive could resolve.

Considering McGraw's attorneys ARE NOT demanding a professional comparison ... I suspect that the McGraw tape WAS deceptively manipulated and ... the defence strategy is to obtain incriminating documents which would affirm that the manipulation did not defame the Kalpoes.

I could be wrong but ... I cannot comprehend another reason why this case has dragged on for four long years.

IMO

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THE ALTERED PORTIONS?

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


A SWORD AND A SHIELD

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html
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« Reply #593 on: August 30, 2010, 07:05:19 PM »


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This is a case of AHATA trying to exact revenge for the boycott. Everyone thought Phil would settle.  They were wrong.


It would only make sense that the ATA/AHATA and/or the Kalpoes' attorneys would anticipate a settlement if there was assurance that the McGraw tape had been deceptively manipulated.  Otherwise ... they lose the lawsuit.

I somehow suspect that the assurance that the McGraw tape was manipulated came directly from findings of the NFI.

My contention is that McGraw's attorneys came up with an unexpected strategy.  They would obtain incriminating case documents to prove that the manipulated tape did not defame Deepak and Satish.

Why has the FBI not released any findings?

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THE NFI FINDINGS

Thursday, December 01, 2005 
By Greta Van Susteren


To begin with, and as you may know, Dr. Phil paid polygrapher Jamie Skeeters to go to Aruba and investigate Natalee Holloway's disappearance. It is Skeeters' trip to Aruba that is at the center of a current dispute in the Natalee Holloway disappearance. ....

Did Deepak admit on the tape to having sex with Natalee or did he deny it? On the "Dr. Phil" show, it was claimed that Deepak admitted on tape to having sex with Natalee. The authorities in Aruba disagree and assert that on the original tape Deepak actually denies, not admits, to having had sex with Natalee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005


ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.

However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word she, there was a cut. And just after the word did, there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, No, she didn't. And he shakes his head while doingwhile saying that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/

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« Reply #594 on: August 30, 2010, 07:10:05 PM »


I suspect that the four years of extentions afforded by the judge for the Kalpoes to comply to requests for documentation ... requests to appear in deposition hearings ... implies that attorneys are ... behind the scenes ... presenting legal challenges. 

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« Reply #595 on: August 30, 2010, 09:30:02 PM »

Janet - I have to disagree with you on this.  I don't think they have any intention of settling with the Kalpoes.  I believe they expect the case to be thrown out and so do I. 

I agree with Magnolia - CBS and Dr. Phil have these attorneys on their payroll.  The Kalpoes are a minor irritation to CBS but do allow some hope of getting information regarding the NH case which is their intention IMO.

Klaas

We will have to agree to disagree until the outcome of this lawsuit is revealed.  If I am wrong ...  I will be rejoicing while eating crow pie.

Considering no findings have been released from the FBI investigation of the hard drive ... I suspect that the McGraw recording was manipulated with the expectation there would be no significant backlash from the Kalpoes.  After all ... at the most Deepak and Satish would be ... as you pointed out ... only "minor irritations".

However ... McGraw and his "people" did not anticipate that the ATA/AHATA would enter the scenario and take advantage of the NFI findings by financially backing the Kalpoes in a defamation lawsuit in anticipation of ultimately reaping a windfall ... a windfall that implied the Kalpoes ... the attorneys and ... Aruba would financially benefit.

Could it be that the filing of the defamation lawsuit by the Kalpoes' attorneys implied that McGraw had two choices ... settle or ... challenge the lawsuit by going in another direction.  The defence's strategy?  Case documentation would be requested.  The Kalpoes' own words and the words of those within the ALE would be evidence that no defamation occurred even if the tape was manipulated.

Why has the defamation lawsuit not been thrown out.  There has been four years of repeated extentions granted following non-compliance to court requests.

I suspect the Kalpoes' high priced attorneys are challenging the requests for documentation.  The Kalpoes' high priced attorneys must be citing that the incriminating case documents are not relevent to the defamation lawsuit ... only the disputed McGraw recording.

I would love to be wrong in my speculations.  I do not want it revealed that there was a manipulation of the tape.  I do not want the Kalpoes and their backer to emerge the victors.  The implication would be that ... for the sake of ratings ... Phil McGraw's attempt to deceive ... ultimately lined the pockets of those who were involved in the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 and ... those within the Aruban administration who have been behind the misinformation campaign to pervent justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

BTW ... a little googling will reveal that in the past negotiated settlements have happened in regards to lawsuits filed against the great Phil McGraw and his high priced attorneys.

Janet

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« Reply #596 on: August 31, 2010, 08:51:40 AM »

Why has the defamation lawsuit been dismissed by the judge?

John Kelly claims that the ground rules were established at the getgo by one of the Kalpoes' attorneys.  Why would the ATA/AHATA divert from the established ground rules by complying to the court's request to produce incriminating case documents  ... incriminating case documents implicating the Kalpoes in the rape and murder of Natalee Holloway as well as the disposal of her remain?

Could it be that the high priced Kalpoe attorneys backed by the ATA/AHATA are affording an ongoing legal challenge behind the scenes regarding the court requests for documentation and ... this is the reason the case has not been thrown out?

Could it be the contention of the high priced Kalpoe attorneys that the disputed McGraw tape is what the defamation lawsuit is all about?  In other words ... was it or was it not deceptively manipulated?

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A Signed Declaration

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.htm
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« Reply #597 on: August 31, 2010, 09:02:03 AM »


Deposition

That is what the Kalpoes are so far refusing to come to California (as ordered by the judge) to give to the Defense.

For crying out loud!!  What is the reason behind the judge's decision not to throw out this defamation case out!  For the past four years ... the Kalpoes have "refuse" time and time again to comply with court requests.


I prefer to believe that the Judge and the CBS/Dr. Phil team are on the side of Natalee more than anything else.  It would be better to get the depositions and case documents CBS/Dr.Phil are requesting/requiring.  I believe that's what they are all holding out for.  That small chance.  For Natalee.

It appears that it is not the Dr. Phil team who are prolonging the lawsuit for any lofty motive.  Following a 2008 failure to comply by the Kalpoes' attorneys ... the McGraw attorneys motioned the court to dismiss the case.  The motion was denied.

At that time the judge extended the request to comply deadline by five days.  Five days have come and passed 2 1/2 years ago and ... still the lawsuit has not been dismissed.  The judge has granted repeated extentions since.  Why?

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Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. ....

In their dismissal motion, attorneys for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling. "There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

In June, another judge dismissed a wrongful death case against the Kalpoes by Holloway's parents, ruling the Los Angeles Superior Court did not have jurisdiction. The parents maintained the brothers conceded jurisdiction when they sued CBS and McGraw in Los Angeles.

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« Reply #598 on: August 31, 2010, 12:01:26 PM »

As forewarned ... the Kalpoes' attorneys have failed to adhere to the court's requests time and time again in regards to case documents.  The judge grants extentions but ... fails to thow out the defamation lawsuit as the extention dates come and go without compliance.

Could it be that the Kalpoes' attorneys are working behind the scenes with the court/judge attempting to drop portions of the defamation lawsuit ... portions that imply case document are required by the McGraw attorneys in the defence of their client.

In other words ... will the disputed segment of the McGraw tape become the only issue. 

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The Dropped Portion?

Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil


The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and got rid of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


A Signed Declaration

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over. ....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html
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« Reply #599 on: September 04, 2010, 11:43:05 PM »

Wonder what happened with this?  I don't think that pertains to the case management hearing delayed until Sept 28.


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