Caylee Marie Anthony #105 2/10/09 - 2/12/09

[goodnmad]

Also,

Texas EquuSearch Joins Search For Haleigh
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:35:04 PM


SATSUMA, Fla. --  Texas EquuSearch director Tim Miller said his group will join in the search for Haleigh Cummings.  Josh Duckett and the Kid Finders Network are also searching for the 5-year-old Putnam County girl who vanished from her home Tuesday morning.

Texas EquuSearch opened an Orlando branch during the search for Caylee Anthony.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/10/missing_child_alert_girl_4_from_putnam_co.html

oh boy Kid Finders. 

Something isn't right there ... the dad's interview ... I guess we'll see. I hope and pray the little girl is found safe.

[OriginalKat]

I just read the blog from the man who was at the memorial, and was glad to hear there were many pics shown of her that we didn't see, that is one of the things that was lacking at the memorial. If that is true about the remains being in the teddy bear, at first I thought how strange, but then since she was only two years old, in a way that is kind of a special way of remembering her, and maybe that bear was one of her favorites.

  Very possible. I noticed when GA and CA went up to light the candle they both  "reached out" and touched the bear.
Yes no rose, I think it very possible that Caylee's remains might have been at the service afterall.

http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html

Thank-you so it is very possible the remains are in the teddy bear.

  Anybody have a guess why Conway would deny that she had been cremated?

I don't know why, I mean what reason does he have to deny it? Unless, G&C didn't tell him? Nah, probably not? Any other monkeys?

Isn't Conway the one who a week or two ago said they were thinking of cremation? I mean really it seemed the logical thing to do. It makes sense that the teddy bear could have been an urn. I think that is a great idea and that way they could feel like they could hold her and hug her. I notice the bow on the neck has creasing like it was in a box or something so I think it new.

[Today]

Also,

Texas EquuSearch Joins Search For Haleigh
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:35:04 PM


SATSUMA, Fla. --  Texas EquuSearch director Tim Miller said his group will join in the search for Haleigh Cummings.  Josh Duckett and the Kid Finders Network are also searching for the 5-year-old Putnam County girl who vanished from her home Tuesday morning.

Texas EquuSearch opened an Orlando branch during the search for Caylee Anthony.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/10/missing_child_alert_girl_4_from_putnam_co.html

FYI there is a thread for those interested http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4523.0

I was waiting to see if KF got involved.  I am also waiting to see if Josh fills one of those open board positions on KF.

[annettef49]

YES HUDS.. I AGREE WITH YOU. VERY GRUESOME . BUT LIKE YOU SAID, OUT OF LOYALTY TO HIS SISTER HE JUST MIGHT DO THAT. LEE STRIKES ME AS THE KIND OF PERSON TO DO THESE SORT OF THINGS THO. HE JUST GIVES ME A VERY UNEASY FEELING. I CANT HELP IT.. JMO

[Searching]

I just read the blog from the man who was at the memorial, and was glad to hear there were many pics shown of her that we didn't see, that is one of the things that was lacking at the memorial. If that is true about the remains being in the teddy bear, at first I thought how strange, but then since she was only two years old, in a way that is kind of a special way of remembering her, and maybe that bear was one of her favorites.

Yes no rose, I think it very possible that Caylee's remains might have been at the service afterall.

http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html

Thank-you so it is very possible the remains are in the teddy bear.

Wow....I bet Caylee's remains were right 'under everyone's noses'.  Not only in the jewelery they were wearing, but in the Teddy Bear.  I wonder if the A's get a kick of tricking the public.  They did say the remains wouldn't be at the service, but now I wonder.  I really had a lot of respect for Brad Conway, but he's the one that said it and now I'm beginning to wonder if Brad is as honest as I first thought.  I'm going back to watch the beginning of the service to see how Cindy handles the bear.  Thanks for showing us this.

Ok, I went and watched the first parts of memorial, the bear was sat on the pew in between CA and LA as though it were watching the service. Then gently carried up and placed by the candle etc. I believe Caylee was in that bear.  When my mother passed away,she was cremated and placed in a bury able urn per her own arrangements. When being transported to cemetery, my brother placed her in his seat and buckled her in as though she were still whole, if that makes sense. She was a stickler for seat belts and car never moved until all were buckled up. He said he wanted her safe for the ride to her final resting grounds. So, I do believe,the way the bear was handled that it was actually where our Caylee was at.JMO

[Today]

annettef49

[BooMonkey]

Michelle Bart's blog:

 February 11, 2009 - Wednesday
   
This and That...

The Public Memorial yesterday was beautiful and well organized; Cindy and the rest of the organizers did a wonderful job (in my opinion) and this was without a doubt a wonderful celebration to an angel who brought a nation together, if even through a sad and difficult time.
At the memorial George said "please do not judge, I love my daughter, and she too deserves love, prayers, and hope.  Please consider writing her a note..." well yesterday hundreds of you asked me where you could write her and instead of answering all of you I am posting the information here. According to the jail and her attorney Jose this is what they both informed me to tell the public. ALL MAIL must be sent through United States Postal Service (USPS), any other mail service will be denied.

Orange County Jail
Casey Marie Anthony
08049710  F-DORML - 12
P.O. Box 4970
Orlando, Florida 32802-4970
(407) 836-4300
Jail Link

Comments/E-mails: I posted and filtered through over 200 comment requests, today there are another 340 requests, I hope to filter and post most by the end of the day.  I will be deleting some past blogs in the next few days, as I delete them all your kind notes and comments will also be deleted in the process, but thank you for the kind words and the support you have given over the past eight months to Caylee Marie and to her family!

The e-mails through Caylee's Myspace site (most of the time) will not be answered, I would encourage you to post comments on the site as the family does read your kind notes.  I would suggest many of you please reconsider placing personal e-mail addresses and phone numbers in those comments as many folks have had issues later with providing personal data to the public.

National Vigil for Hope: is scheduled for Sunday, May 17, 2009.  We have over 30 states participating and are still taking hosts/committee members.  Please drop me an e-mail to helpingheroes@earthlink.net if you would like to join us as a host.  After a conference call this weekend, I will post even information on this site next week.

Please continue staying a friend until we have the new Caylee Marie Foundation website up, at that time we will provide you a link to the new site.  Thanks again for the support and I look forward to keeping you informed of how together we can help bring awareness to all missing children across the country!

Michelle

[Hudsunn]

There are some interesting questions and points being made today.  Here are some that I find coming up in my mind.
 
  1.  Do you guys think Lee was being followed by the police after Casey was arrested and he was first interviewed?  Likewise, George and Cindy?  I know the police do not have all the manpower they need, but I can see them following Lee, especially after he started to play amateur detective and when he and Casey had that first phone conversation.  After all, Lee admitted to going to Tony's and taking Casey's things before the cops even started questioning her.

 2.  If not the police, surely members of the media were watching the family and their homes.  Would any of them have taken a chance on moving the body when they were such a focus of police and media attention?  I think they wanted to help Casey, but how far would they have gone and how could they have done it without being seen by someone?

 3. What else could be coming out about this case?  We know a lot already.  What else could come forth?

     a.  The name of Caylee's father?  If it is a family member, that would be a real blockbuster.

     b.  Evidence of mental illness in Casey?  So far, they have denied that she is mentally or emotionally disturbed.  But will the psychologists find something else, and will Baez go with that as his defense?

     c.  Casey working as an escort, prostitute, drug mule or something else incriminating?  They would want to keep this secret, but wouldn't it already be out by now? 

     d.  A pornography or child pornography connection?  Again, this is something the defense would not want known, but there are rumors of it online.

     

[flamom]

Does anyone know who this is?



Does anyone know who the guy is sitting next to George at memorial?

Today,If the lady married to a guy who used to post here?

Looks like the wife of Colt45 that used to post here before he got the big red button....... 

[klaasend]

Hey Monkeys,
I read on here that bozo is allowed to bring a laptop with air-card into jail for meetings with kc. Some of you mentioned yesterday that is probably how kc say the memorial which I agree. 

Made me think that she could communicate with her family via Skype or some "phone" system. The jail can not record her visits with bozo, how would they know who she is talking to if there is a live laptop in there!?

sorry if already mentioned.

NM - exactly.  I'm not sure if the jail is that knowledgeable of the things one can do over the internet these days, or so it seems.

[Mtnmom]

I want to think colts wifes sn was Anita? Dont know if thats her tho cant remember.

[Bearlyhere]

sorry OT if any MOD could please move
Angela Squatrito , missing Persons to found. TIA

 

[Today]

Michelle Bart's blog:

 February 11, 2009 - Wednesday
   
This and That...

The Public Memorial yesterday was beautiful and well organized; Cindy and the rest of the organizers did a wonderful job (in my opinion) and this was without a doubt a wonderful celebration to an angel who brought a nation together, if even through a sad and difficult time.
At the memorial George said "please do not judge, I love my daughter, and she too deserves love, prayers, and hope.  Please consider writing her a note..." well yesterday hundreds of you asked me where you could write her and instead of answering all of you I am posting the information here. According to the jail and her attorney Jose this is what they both informed me to tell the public. ALL MAIL must be sent through United States Postal Service (USPS), any other mail service will be denied.

Orange County Jail
Casey Marie Anthony
08049710  F-DORML - 12
P.O. Box 4970
Orlando, Florida 32802-4970
(407) 836-4300
Jail Link

Comments/E-mails: I posted and filtered through over 200 comment requests, today there are another 340 requests, I hope to filter and post most by the end of the day.  I will be deleting some past blogs in the next few days, as I delete them all your kind notes and comments will also be deleted in the process, but thank you for the kind words and the support you have given over the past eight months to Caylee Marie and to her family!

The e-mails through Caylee's Myspace site (most of the time) will not be answered, I would encourage you to post comments on the site as the family does read your kind notes.  I would suggest many of you please reconsider placing personal e-mail addresses and phone numbers in those comments as many folks have had issues later with providing personal data to the public.

National Vigil for Hope: is scheduled for Sunday, May 17, 2009.  We have over 30 states participating and are still taking hosts/committee members.  Please drop me an e-mail to helpingheroes@earthlink.net if you would like to join us as a host.  After a conference call this weekend, I will post even information on this site next week.

Please continue staying a friend until we have the new Caylee Marie Foundation website up, at that time we will provide you a link to the new site.  Thanks again for the support and I look forward to keeping you informed of how together we can help bring awareness to all missing children across the country!

Michelle

I sure hope they remember to apply for Federal Identification Number and 501(c)3 before setting up that new website for the Foundation.  I know that the A's have a little problem with rules and regulations, but the IRS is really the wrong enemy to have. 

[mizjay]

I just read the blog from the man who was at the memorial, and was glad to hear there were many pics shown of her that we didn't see, that is one of the things that was lacking at the memorial. If that is true about the remains being in the teddy bear, at first I thought how strange, but then since she was only two years old, in a way that is kind of a special way of remembering her, and maybe that bear was one of her favorites.

Yes no rose, I think it very possible that Caylee's remains might have been at the service afterall.

http://www.perfectmemorials.com/soft-teddy-bear-cremation-urns-c-482.html

Thank-you so it is very possible the remains are in the teddy bear.

Wow....I bet Caylee's remains were right 'under everyone's noses'.  Not only in the jewelery they were wearing, but in the Teddy Bear.  I wonder if the A's get a kick of tricking the public.  They did say the remains wouldn't be at the service, but now I wonder.  I really had a lot of respect for Brad Conway, but he's the one that said it and now I'm beginning to wonder if Brad is as honest as I first thought.  I'm going back to watch the beginning of the service to see how Cindy handles the bear.  Thanks for showing us this.

Ok, I went and watched the first parts of memorial, the bear was sat on the pew in between CA and LA as though it were watching the service. Then gently carried up and placed by the candle etc. I believe Caylee was in that bear.  When my mother passed away,she was cremated and placed in a bury able urn per her own arrangements. When being transported to cemetery, my brother placed her in his seat and buckled her in as though she were still whole, if that makes sense. She was a stickler for seat belts and car never moved until all were buckled up. He said he wanted her safe for the ride to her final resting grounds. So, I do believe,the way the bear was handled that it was actually where our Caylee was at.JMO

WTH is wrong with these people?  If that is so, why not just say so. They have a unique way of involving others in their lies(mistruths ) when things are obvious to all or even when they've spontaneously blurted out the truth, they casually rewrite the history and get others (in this instance, Conway) to bolster the new version,and then at any time in the future they ammend the facts to suit them. no wonder Nejame flew.

[OriginalKat]

Michelle Bart's blog:

 February 11, 2009 - Wednesday
   
This and That...

The Public Memorial yesterday was beautiful and well organized; Cindy and the rest of the organizers did a wonderful job (in my opinion) and this was without a doubt a wonderful celebration to an angel who brought a nation together, if even through a sad and difficult time.
At the memorial George said "please do not judge, I love my daughter, and she too deserves love, prayers, and hope.  Please consider writing her a note..." well yesterday hundreds of you asked me where you could write her and instead of answering all of you I am posting the information here. According to the jail and her attorney Jose this is what they both informed me to tell the public. ALL MAIL must be sent through United States Postal Service (USPS), any other mail service will be denied.

Orange County Jail
Casey Marie Anthony
08049710  F-DORML - 12
P.O. Box 4970
Orlando, Florida 32802-4970
(407) 836-4300
Jail Link

Comments/E-mails: I posted and filtered through over 200 comment requests, today there are another 340 requests, I hope to filter and post most by the end of the day.  I will be deleting some past blogs in the next few days, as I delete them all your kind notes and comments will also be deleted in the process, but thank you for the kind words and the support you have given over the past eight months to Caylee Marie and to her family!

The e-mails through Caylee's Myspace site (most of the time) will not be answered, I would encourage you to post comments on the site as the family does read your kind notes.  I would suggest many of you please reconsider placing personal e-mail addresses and phone numbers in those comments as many folks have had issues later with providing personal data to the public.

National Vigil for Hope: is scheduled for Sunday, May 17, 2009.  We have over 30 states participating and are still taking hosts/committee members.  Please drop me an e-mail to helpingheroes@earthlink.net if you would like to join us as a host.  After a conference call this weekend, I will post even information on this site next week.

Please continue staying a friend until we have the new Caylee Marie Foundation website up, at that time we will provide you a link to the new site.  Thanks again for the support and I look forward to keeping you informed of how together we can help bring awareness to all missing children across the country!

Michelle

And MB is comprehending this a letters of love and support for Casey? I don't think so but the ones that they like they will probably publish in a book..."Letters to Casey". Maybe that is why George had such an unusual, national media request.

[JuJu]

i have never known anyone who was cremated and was taken aback when the "jewelry" came up yesterday.  i will research this later, but LA's kissing of the wrist was soooooo strange.  i guess that is what made me think it was a bracelet.  remember the bracelet bozo tried to sneak a bracelet in to KC?

i think it was one of those rubber things and i don't even know if it's possible to put some of the remains in one of those......just thinking out loud...

[Hudsunn]

I keep remembering the case of former Miss America, Marilyn van Derber, who was molested by her rich, prominent father for years.  Her mother knew but was in denial.  Marilyn eventually went public with her story and one thing she said was that silence and secrecy are so important to the abuser and the abused.  The abuser insists upon because he is afraid of being caught and punished.  And he does not want his reputation ruined.  The abuser wants it too because she is ashamed and feels like damaged goods or even partly to blame for her own abuse.  She also said that when she read about JonBenet and other murdered kids who were found with duct tape over their mouths, she suspected abuse within the family.  Her own father threatened to kill her if she ever told or to kill himself.  She did not tell until he had died.  Marilyn said that duct tape often signifies a family secret and the message is DO NOT TELL, NOBODY CAN EVER KNOW. In the JonBenet case, Marilyn said that the heart drawn on her palm was also part of abuse.  "I do this because I love you or you are so pretty I cannot help myself and if you love me, you will never tell."  Marilyn also described her placid and pretty exterior, she was always glowing and had a huge smile.  She said that underneath the big smile and the pretty clothes and all the glorious pictures of her as a beauty queen, there was enormous anger and a complete lack of self-esteem.

[Today]

Hudsunn or other monkeys, would it matter to the case if Lee was involved with something (porn, smuggling, something black)? 

A lot of monkeys have mentioned that Lee does not seem like Mallory's boyfriend.  Here is an outside of the box thought -- what if they are business partners? 

This case has taken many turns, especially when there seems to be something that maybe souldn't be looked at.  I think a serious look at who was involved and how, at the beginning, might lead to some answers or more questions.

[oldiebutgoodie]

A long time ago, I used to babysit two small children (one an infant, the other about 2 yrs. old) whose mother was always polite with me, always paid me, and was never visibly drunk or stoned -- at least, when I'd first arrive. However, I knew she was a partyer and heavy drinker and drug abuser. Her boyfriend told me she'd used LSD while pregnant with that infant. The baby had chronic diarrhea and on one occasion, seemed especially lethargic. I called the number the mother gave me and told her she had to come home to take her baby to the doctor and I was willing to stay with the other child for as long as she was at the doctor's or hospital.

The mother, by that time, was already pretty far gone (I was never enough of an expert to know if it was "just" alcohol or drugs were also involved although the mother was quite open about her drug use). She was having fun and refused to come home.

I called the police. There was no 911 then. So back then, you called "0" for Operator and gave her the address and asked for what emergency service you wanted and I asked for the police. I was only about 13 or so years old at the time and was afraid I would get into trouble for asking for an ambulance if the baby wasn't really sick. I also knew that I was getting the baby's mother into trouble with the police because that baby looked all-around sickly and not just sick in that one moment. That baby looked like it was not properly taken care of.

The diapering on the infant and toddler was also neglected. I always had to change full diapers when I got there and I'd have to scrub the babies clean from old poop.

These babies were an inconvenience to their mother. One evening, the only food in the house was a can of green beans. How do you shove solid green beans into a baby bottle?

After calling the police, I never heard from that mother again. I don't think she realized that I was trying to get her into trouble on purpose. I think she thought I was a dumb kid who just panicked. I always wondered if they took her children away. They both looked very neglected but that baby was getting desperately ill from the neglect. I was just a kid but I couldn't take a chance on waiting until the next time I might be called to babysit. This was about the third or fourth time I'd babysat these children and that baby looked worse each time. I just couldn't wait any longer.

SO... what does my long story have to do with Caylee? Well, when I first heard about her disappearance, I thought maybe she'd accidentally died at her mother's hands or as a result of neglect then the young mother panicked and tried to cover up. I'd already seen with my own eyes throughout my lifetime, some pretty sad results of child abuse and neglect.

Then I thought some more about that and decided it wasn't possible that Casey would all of a sudden, one day out of the blue, decide to be a neglectful parent to such an extreme that it brought about actual death to her child. The kind of personality that would be so neglectful does not happen with sudden onset. That person is that rotten for a long time, perhaps has always been that rotten.

So that child would have been neglected for a very long time, much like those babies I babysat. A pattern of clearly noticeable neglect would have emerged long before Caylee's disappearance.

And that neglect would have been noticeable to any adult that lived under the same roof as Caylee and Casey. Maybe Casey's mother took over the role of being mother to little Caylee but she still had to use Casey as a sometimes caregiver for her grandaughter. Maybe Casey's mother berated Casey constantly for her failures, especially for being such a poor mother. Maybe she tried to force Casey to live up to her responsibilities and that's why Casey resented little Caylee so much.

So it made sense to me that if Caylee died as a result of Casey's failings as a mother, Casey would be as desperate to hide the truth from her parents as she would be to hide the truth from the police. For the longest time, I believed Casey was 100% responsible for Caylee's death but that it wasn't specifically intentional, as in a planned-out first degree murder.

Then I read about Casey looking stuff up on the internet about snapping necks or other things that would indicate she'd been planning to kill Caylee and now I'm not sure what police and prosecutors can make of all that.

I do believe that Casey's parents have to stay in denial to protect their own hearts and consciences. How can they live with the knowledge that they surely saw signs that this was coming and still they made no move to remove Casey from her daughter's life? Why didn't they sue for full custody and throw their daughter out of the house? Let Casey go shack up with her party buddiesand make a living on her own.

I think they know they could have and should have done more to keep Caylee safe and now they have to find a way to live the rest of their lives knowing that child's life was in their hands and they failed her.

It's just not believeable to me that they didn't know or didn't see the signs that Caylee was seriously at risk when in the care of her own mother. And maybe this is the horrible conclusion they are afraid the authorities will reach, as well. Maybe this is the big thing or big "secret" they are hoping won't ever be officially publically declared... that they should also be publically named as having some responsibility in little Caylee's death.

I was only 13 years old, scared out of my wits that I might actually get into trouble with the police for calling them about a listless baby who never cried or showed any spirit and had too much diarrhea and whose mother didn't care, and I still called the police because I knew it was the right thing to do.

So why would any responsible adult who sees severe child neglect or who knows there is reason for concern not contact Child Protective Services? Or the police? Casey may have been their daughter, but good grief, Caylee was so little, she couldn't speak up for herself. Her grandparents were her only hope.

All child deaths are especially tragic but when you can "armchair quarterback" them and go back in time and actually see where responsible and loving care would have made a difference, it's hard not to do that.

And as Casey's parents torment themselves, I suspect Casey herself will remain breezy and light and her conscience free of any twinge. I believe she is a narcissist and it's all about her, you see, and her needs and what she wants. She hasn't got room for guilt. I don't think she ever will.

Sorry about the length of this post but as you all know this is an emotional topic and I guess we all tend to get wound up about it.

[no rose colored glasses]

I keep remembering the case of former Miss America, Marilyn van Derber, who was molested by her rich, prominent father for years.  Her mother knew but was in denial.  Marilyn eventually went public with her story and one thing she said was that silence and secrecy are so important to the abuser and the abused.  The abuser insists upon because he is afraid of being caught and punished.  And he does not want his reputation ruined.  The abuser wants it too because she is ashamed and feels like damaged goods or even partly to blame for her own abuse.  She also said that when she read about JonBenet and other murdered kids who were found with duct tape over their mouths, she suspected abuse within the family.  Her own father threatened to kill her if she ever told or to kill himself.  She did not tell until he had died.  Marilyn said that duct tape often signifies a family secret and the message is DO NOT TELL, NOBODY CAN EVER KNOW. In the JonBenet case, Marilyn said that the heart drawn on her palm was also part of abuse.  "I do this because I love you or you are so pretty I cannot help myself and if you love me, you will never tell."  Marilyn also described her placid and pretty exterior, she was always glowing and had a huge smile.  She said that underneath the big smile and the pretty clothes and all the glorious pictures of her as a beauty queen, there was enormous anger and a complete lack of self-esteem.

That is very telling, thanks for posting that, wow.