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Author Topic: Haleigh Cummings 5, Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #1 2/10/09-2/20/09  (Read 490557 times)
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« Reply #1000 on: February 14, 2009, 05:24:49 PM »

IslandMonkey - I have no idea what is blacked out but normally it's personal information about someone not related to the case, or their personal information is not public info and so they redact it.

Could it be a minor childs info? like the baby brother of Haleigh or another child?
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« Reply #1001 on: February 14, 2009, 05:27:37 PM »




PERZACTLY  CAPP

The pi## er was I didn't even mention ABC or possible financial gain by any media, but only mentioned most of the obvious stuff. Later in the night I went to see what was the prvailing attitude, after a 2 hr interim, there were still apprx. the same amount of posts as before which leads me to believe they were censoring heavily.

That only makes me want to try harder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1002 on: February 14, 2009, 05:28:09 PM »

IslandMonkey - I have no idea what is blacked out but normally it's personal information about someone not related to the case, or their personal information is not public info and so they redact it.

Could it be a minor childs info? like the baby brother of Haleigh or another child?

That makes more sense to me!!!

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« Reply #1003 on: February 14, 2009, 05:35:06 PM »


No ripping here, wasn't it a theory that jon Benet Ramsey had a bed wetting problem?

They did indeed confirm the father was at work, of course they will look at all phone records but we do know that Misty called Ron on his way home from work & we do know that Crystal was called by Ron's mom at 3:49 - thats all we know about definite phone calls so far.

Secondly, there is no report that states Haleigh had a "bedwetting problem" in fact when one of the grandmothers was asked about this she stated that Haleigh had not wet the bed in over 2 years when she cared for her.    There was only Misty's statement that Haleigh had wet the bed that night that is out there thus far.


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Thanks!  And yeppers, that's my understanding about Jon Benet, at least from some reports. 

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Thanks!  I hadn't seen that report yet, that the father was indeed at work that night.  Do you know if it has been confirmed that he was at work the *whole* shift that night, until 3am? 

Not sure that all of those phone calls were 'definite', as I've read that these were reported by the gf and by the father.  Guess I'm looking for confirmation with phone records before calling them definite.  I say that because at least one of those phone calls has been talked about in different ways.  The gf says she called the father at work, he said he was pulling into the driveway when she called.  In another interview the father said that he found out after he walked inside the home.  Perhaps all of that happened in the same phone call and I'm nit-picking.   

Not sure where I read it, but a 'bed-wetting' problem was talked about.  Because there was an ensuing discussion of sorts that bed-wetting is listed among the symptoms of the turner syndrome that Haleigh has.  Not sure tho that I've read anyone else but the gf reporting the bedwetting.  Was it just a comment by her which the media or someone has run with? 
     
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« Reply #1004 on: February 14, 2009, 05:36:11 PM »

IslandMonkey - I have no idea what is blacked out but normally it's personal information about someone not related to the case, or their personal information is not public info and so they redact it.

Could it be a minor childs info? like the baby brother of Haleigh or another child?

That makes more sense to me!!!

I tend to agree that it is info on a minor as well.

As I stated in a post earlier, ALL of their family history & behavior are raising red flags to me - all of it BUT I pray all this dysfunction will not detract from finding Haleigh & the truth in this case...yikes that police report is disturbing on a few levels but not sure if a family member is involved in harming Haleigh directly.   Its not looking good for Haleigh's safety right now but I will continue to pray Im wrong... HUGE SIGH


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« Reply #1005 on: February 14, 2009, 05:40:23 PM »

IslandMonkey - I have no idea what is blacked out but normally it's personal information about someone not related to the case, or their personal information is not public info and so they redact it.

Could it be a minor childs info? like the baby brother of Haleigh or another child?

I'm guessing it was the baby brother. 

I don't think Witness/Complaintant #5 info would be blacked out due to them not being related to the case.  The relationship would just be "Not Applicable" and the findings would indicate no involvement in the case.  Inf not a minor, this is usually the way their personal information becomes public (unfortunately).   
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« Reply #1006 on: February 14, 2009, 05:42:10 PM »

10/24/2001 - Assault Complaint
12/12/2002 - POSSESSION OF COCAINE, POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, POSSESSION OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS, POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION, POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
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Sentence: maybe someone can translate. These are the notes from the trial: THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI - ENT CIR CT MIN
12/12/2002 - ATTEMPTING TO TAKE DEER BY GUN AND LIGHT AT NIGHT
Notes:
2003-01-23 5 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2003-01-23 6 ADJ OF GUILT AND PLACING DEFENDANT CT I
2003-01-23 6 ON PROBATION AND SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2003-01-23 7 ADJ OF GUILT AND PLACING DEFENDANT CT II
2003-01-23 7 ON PROBATION AND SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2003-03-04 8 $188.00 FINE PAID 02/18/2003
2003-03-04 9 $ 25.00 COURT FACILITY FEE PAID 02/18/2003
2003-03-04 10 $ 25.00 WILDLIFE ALERT FUND PAYMENT 02/18/2003
11/16/2004 - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS, POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
DEFT SWORN, W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C, ADVISED

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2005-03-03 20 MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE, PSI WAIVED,
2005-03-03 20 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET SAME DAY
2005-03-03 20 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD
2005-03-03 20 $370.00 COURT COSTS (6 MONTHS TO PAY)
2005-03-03 20 ADI PROGRAM - LEVEL II
2005-09-08 21 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF ADI LEVEL II PROGRAM
2005-09-08 21 $370.00 COURT COST PAID
2005-11-14 22 $370.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
11/14/2006 - LEAVING THE SCENE OF ACCIDENT INVOLVING INJURIES
Notes:
This one was transferred to County Court
8/1/2006 - TRESPASS - http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDe...3879&a... ...
Notes:
2006-10-30 22 ADJUDGED GUILTY
2006-10-30 22 PROB HRDS 6 MONTHS
2006-10-30 22 1 DAY PCJ WITH CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED OF 1 DAY
2006-10-30 22 $273.00 FINE AND COST
2006-10-30 22 $ 40.00 PD FEE SUSPENDED
2006-10-30 22 RANDOM DRUG TEST
2006-10-30 23 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
2006-10-30 23 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2006-10-30 24 ORDER OF PROBATION
2007-01-17 25 $ 60.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 11/14/2006
2007-02-07 26 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2007-02-14 27 $120.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 12/28/2006
2007-03-16 28 $ 93.00 FINE AND COST BAL PAID 01/25/2007
12/19/2006 - LEAVING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT (I didn't notice before, but this is the same infraction as the one on 11/14/2006)
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2007-02-06 13 THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6416EEN2 - CARELESS DRIVING
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6418EEN4 - OPERATE ATV
2007-02-06 13 W/O HELMET
2007-02-06 14 WAIVER OF COUNSEL
4/3/2007 - AFFRAY
Sentence: 10 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE
11/14/2007 - POSSESSION OF MODERN FIREARM DURING MUZZLELOADING SEASON, TRESPASS
Sentence:$273.00 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED, 24 HOURS HOUSE ARREST


IIRC~Doesn't dad mother work in sheriff's office?? Makes you wonder why he got a slap on the wrist for the highlighted portions, also I will have to find the charges that show RX medication w/o prescription. NOT a model parent by any stretch of the imagination, and the fact he calls the woman in charge of his children a dumb f3cking biatch is even worse, if he thinks that of her why in h@ll would he leave her in charge of 2 innocent babies

NOLLE PROSEQUI means that the state decided not to prosecute. Usually it means that there was not enough evidence to make the case - it does not mean that the event did not occur just that there is not enough proof to convictt.

I understand that...I was just curious if dad's mom does work/worked for the sheriff's office and if she did how that might play into no prosecution??

I doubt it figured into it since the prosecutor's office makes the call not the police. but could be - stranger things have happened.
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« Reply #1007 on: February 14, 2009, 05:46:15 PM »

Did y'all notice that Misty just turned 17 on December 16?  For some reason, that really creeps me out....
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« Reply #1008 on: February 14, 2009, 05:52:08 PM »

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Not sure if it is confirmed that Ron was at work his entire shift or not but early on LE in a presser mentioned that the father was indeed at work.   By that I would think they confirmed that rather immediately.

To my knowledge the only mention of bedwetting was by Misty for that evening, and I watched one of the grandmother's state that Haleigh had not wet the bed in over 2 years in her care.   At this point, yes, I do think people heard that and ran with it...I skimmed several links for Turners Syndrome & there was no direct symptom listed as bedwetting but a few sites indicated kidney/urinary abnormalities at approx 30% in patients
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« Reply #1009 on: February 14, 2009, 05:53:19 PM »

TCUMOM - yes, very creepy.
Did anyone hear the 4:00 news conference scheduled for today?
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« Reply #1010 on: February 14, 2009, 05:54:10 PM »

Did y'all notice that Misty just turned 17 on December 16?  For some reason, that really creeps me out....

Disturbing but sexual consent is 16 in Florida, but where are her parents that a minor child is living with an adult man - for most parents this is a O HELL TO THE NO!
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« Reply #1011 on: February 14, 2009, 05:57:17 PM »

Exactly!  Where are Misty's parents?  What parent would ever let their 17 year old daughter (16 when they first started dating) live with, or even date a 25 year old with three kids??!  This is so very wrong, and disturbing. 
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« Reply #1012 on: February 14, 2009, 05:57:36 PM »

Did y'all notice that Misty just turned 17 on December 16?  For some reason, that really creeps me out....

Me too , just seems wild, but that fact alone makes me think IF she had anything to do with this directly, that she would have left mountains of evidence, and If she had done something and called family for help that all of them together  don't seem capable of stumping LE for very long.

That being said, she would appear to be a model of chasteness not already having a couple of babies by this time!!
I'm not trying to be overly sarcastic but it does look like everybody marries young in that circle.
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« Reply #1013 on: February 14, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »

'Items of Interest' Found to be Insignificant to Disappearance of Haleigh
Posted By: Josey Crews     Created: 2/14/2009 4:10:42 PM    Updated: 2/14/2009 4:36:35 PM
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SATSUMA, FL -- Chief Rick Ryan with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the items of interest found yesterday have been analyzed by the FDLE crime lab and found to be insignificant in the disappearance of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

In a 4 p.m. press conference Ryan did not release new information about the disappearance only about future plans for an extended search.

Sunday's plan is to search other locations in Putnam County. In addition, all dive searches along the shoreline of the St. Johns River will be suspended for the day.

Ryan said that they will continue water and air searches along the shore-line.

The sheriff's office said that no additional volunteers are needed for the search and that the operation did not "require a thousand people."

Investigators still say that everyone is a person of interest in the case and they will continue to interview family and will interview friends of the family soon.

Ryan noted that the family has been very cooperative and that Victim Advocates from Putnam County and across the state are working with the family.

Investigators also said that no information has been received that would warrant them to look into areas outside of the state.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=131322&catid=295

This has me worried~she's been missing 5 days now and they are still interviewing family...........maybe I'm wrong, but it seems if they had completely cleared them or they passed polygraphs that the investigation could move on to SO's in the area or others. I would have also thought they'd have already interviewed friends of family.

God bless this poor child.
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« Reply #1014 on: February 14, 2009, 06:01:31 PM »

Did y'all notice that Misty just turned 17 on December 16?  For some reason, that really creeps me out....

Disturbing but sexual consent is 16 in Florida, but where are her parents that a minor child is living with an adult man - for most parents this is a O HELL TO THE NO!

In some places here in Fla. the parents OH HELL TO THE NO translates into , yeah,whatever to the LE... Basically, at a certain age LE will not even step in to stop a 17 year old girl from making the biggest mistake of her life by hooking up and moving in with an adult man with child/children from the last girl that got mixed up with him... umm yes, I am bitter from my situation such as that... speaking of,my now 18 year old and her dead beat dad bf just showed up and they are fighting...feel the love on valentines day.. I shall return...       
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« Reply #1015 on: February 14, 2009, 06:04:35 PM »

Did y'all notice that Misty just turned 17 on December 16?  For some reason, that really creeps me out....

Disturbing but sexual consent is 16 in Florida, but where are her parents that a minor child is living with an adult man - for most parents this is a O HELL TO THE NO!

In some places here in Fla. the parents OH HELL TO THE NO translates into , yeah,whatever to the LE... Basically, at a certain age LE will not even step in to stop a 17 year old girl from making the biggest mistake of her life by hooking up and moving in with an adult man with child/children from the last girl that got mixed up with him... umm yes, I am bitter from my situation such as that... speaking of,my now 18 year old and her dead beat dad bf just showed up and they are fighting...feel the love on valentines day.. I shall return...       

P.S  I forgot to add, the family we have seen so far remind me of my daughters bf.. uggg
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« Reply #1016 on: February 14, 2009, 06:08:26 PM »

Thanks Islandmonkey.
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« Reply #1017 on: February 14, 2009, 06:12:17 PM »

Thanks Islandmonkey.

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« Reply #1018 on: February 14, 2009, 06:16:57 PM »

Hi everyone, I was wondering, is the birth mother only 19? meaning she was only 14 when she had the lil girl?
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« Reply #1019 on: February 14, 2009, 06:19:01 PM »

LE might be wanting more details of who has had contact with the child family members. Wasn't there a mention of going back thirty days. Pat Brown, a profiler thought that who ever did it ( if the gf wasn't involved )  would had to have some knowledge of the habits, like him going to work at night and what hour he returned. 
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