Caylee Marie Anthony #106 2/12/09 - 2/17/09

[mioyshi]

SO true Lucenda, well, Judiths case IS also bizzar, we were even told to stop looking for her by the local old men around here, or we too would end up missing.. AND, NO LE CARED....WE were laughed at,, and fbi made fun of me being native. 

Jennifer Kessee went missing from her home, le searched, everyone searched, then Caylee went missing, and all searches for Jeniffer stopped, well, the big searches anyway.

I guess you are considered important for different reasons, I have just not figured out yet, what reason they all want, before a massive search will be held.  I know a lot of people now, who have missing relatives, and I guess we all do the  same thing, we wait, for some hunter to stumble upon our missing loved ones, so they can be properly laid to rest, with respect, as respect is all we can really ask for.

Yet, I really do not think, we would want george here, leading the searchers, and having everyone look to him, with respect and trust. That thought just seems messed up to me.
jmo as usual though.....

Where is this case?  I am not familiar with the Judith name or the case and would like to look it up.

hello Turbo, and thank you for your intrest.. Her name is Judith Osteen. She is from Old Town florida. She was forcable carried out of her house by a white man, with greying hair on dec 16th, 2007.  It was the same time that Gary Hilton was killing women here in north florida.  You can google her name, as I have posted , and posted and posted till I have posted out about her, until the threats came, and I slowed down on posting, for our own safety here.
I just have not put her name here, dont know why, ....mio

[Dolce]

Maybe the Haleigh thread shoud take precedence over the Caylee Anthony thread on the main page.

No offense to you Grama, but why should Hayleigh take precedence over Caylee?  Why should Caylee or Hayleigh take precedence over Adji?  Why would any of them take precedence over Natalee.......where do you draw the line as to who is first and where?  The list of missing persons just continues to grow and grow and grow.  Sorry I took offense to this, but not against you personally.

[no rose colored glasses]

Good Morning. Friday the 13th good day for a doc dump and an arrest. Dolce I admire your effort with little Adji, for years I have been complaining how the media cherry picks what kids they want to focus on when a child goes missing. The unfortunate thing is they pick the child that will give them the most ratings.

[Dolce]

Maybe the Haleigh thread shoud take precedence over the Caylee Anthony thread on the main page.

No offense to you Grama, but why should Hayleigh take precedence over Caylee?  Why should Caylee or Hayleigh take precedence over Adji?  Why would any of them take precedence over Natalee.......where do you draw the line as to who is first and where?  The list of missing persons just continues to grow and grow and grow.  Sorry I took offense to this, but not against you personally.

Let me add to this that I am not taking offense to YOU Grama, I am taking offense to the media and how they follow cases (not SM).  Why is one considered to be more important than another and who determines that?
I get that a missing white girl is more of a selling point...but how can they sleep at night after pushing one to the back and another to the front?
(Did that make sense?)
George and KFN have done this - yet it is not being covered by the media.  That is a HUGE story in and of itself!!

[TURBOTHINK]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18701735/index.html

Sorry if this has been posted already

This just gives me chills!  George sounds like such a fake!

IMO, George sounds like a fake - because he IS a fake.
   
donations, donations, donations - that's what it is all about.   

He has no business taking in donations for any cause.   He has already proven himself to be a bad steward of money, having lost $30,000 of Cindy's money.   I also highly doubt it was lost on a "Nigerian Scan".    I think he lost that money and doesn't want anyone to really know how he lost it.   Maybe online gambling...  maybe online porn...  who knows.  But with him being in LE, I just can't see him getting suckered for $30K on a scam (maybe a couple of hundred - but $30 thousand???)  That's hard to believe.

This is really sickening.   I bet KFN is mad that TES is there, because TES might get some of the donation money.       

I had the "strangest" feeling when I read your post that something really bad is going to happen to either him or Lee to try to get this family's attention and to get them to stop.  (I know this sounds strange, but it feels like there is nothing else which will work)

[flossy]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18701735/index.html

Sorry if this has been posted already

This just gives me chills!  George sounds like such a fake!

IMO, George sounds like a fake - because he IS a fake.
   
donations, donations, donations - that's what it is all about.   

He has no business taking in donations for any cause.   He has already proven himself to be a bad steward of money, having lost $30,000 of Cindy's money.   I also highly doubt it was lost on a "Nigerian Scan".    I think he lost that money and doesn't want anyone to really know how he lost it.   Maybe online gambling...  maybe online porn...  who knows.  But with him being in LE, I just can't see him getting suckered for $30K on a scam (maybe a couple of hundred - but $30 thousand???)  That's hard to believe.

This is really sickening.   I bet KFN is mad that TES is there, because TES might get some of the donation money.       

I had the "strangest" feeling when I read your post that something really bad is going to happen to either him or Lee to try to get this family's attention and to get them to stop.  (I know this sounds strange, but it feels like there is nothing else which will work)

The whole thing is just disgusting - because regardless of his motive, either way I don't feel that it's out of the goodness of his heart.  I don't think the A's do ANYTHING that isn't going to benefit them directly - period!

I think he's either trying to make himself appear a certain way in the public eye, or to make it look like LE is bungling things by not ruling out the dad and his girlfriend as suspects (i.e., barking up the wrong tree, yadda yadda).  He may be trying to prove the point that LE focuses instantly on the family and that they shouldn't, even though we all know that according to statistics, they absolutely SHOULD approach it that way.  There's something motivating him, for sure.  Maybe money, maybe free PR - there's just no telling with anyone named Anthony.

[mioyshi]

Maybe the Haleigh thread shoud take precedence over the Caylee Anthony thread on the main page.

No offense to you Grama, but why should Hayleigh take precedence over Caylee?  Why should Caylee or Hayleigh take precedence over Adji?  Why would any of them take precedence over Natalee.......where do you draw the line as to who is first and where?  The list of missing persons just continues to grow and grow and grow.  Sorry I took offense to this, but not against you personally.

Let me add to this that I am not taking offense to YOU Grama, I am taking offense to the media and how they follow cases (not SM).  Why is one considered to be more important than another and who determines that?
I get that a missing white girl is more of a selling point...but how can they sleep at night after pushing one to the back and another to the front?
(Did that make sense?)
George and KFN have done this - yet it is not being covered by the media.  That is a HUGE story in and of itself!!

Good morning Dolce,,, I feel and hear your passion, and it does my heart good to see someone wanting the "right" thing s done with these missing people. Everytime a new person comes up missing, the older missing people get pushed further and further back.
Remember Trenton Ducket? Well, after his mother killed herself, the media just forgot about little Trenton. His father still searches for his son, and will probally never know what truley happened.

The not knowing what happened is the worst feeling to have for a missing family member.
MAybe we need to change the NEWS.. I do not know how to make it fair, but, I feel the need for some changes.  jmo mio

[theboyzmom]

I had written the church about my concerns about refusing persons entrance to a church and how non christian I considered it.  This is the reply I received, which makes no sense at all in reference to my original email. I don't know if he got the emails mixed up or what, but here is the reply.

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While we appreciate your concern for our church, we think it is very important for you to know the truth.  You have the right to believe or say anything that you would like, but the least we can do is to respond in the spirit of Christ and to honor God’s word when Paul says speak the truth in love!

When we were approached by the family, about hosting them, we were glad to do so because this is what we believe Jesus would do.  However, because of the nature of this case it quickly became apparent to us that the level of security would be unprecedented for us.  Even in the Payne Stewart Memorial we did not have this level of security.  The reason for this is due to the family’s request, as well as law enforcement.  After numerous meetings with both parties, we  developed a plan that we believed would insure a safe and worshipful environment in which to remember Caylee.

The use of metal detectors, bag searches, and restricted access for a handful of people were at the request of the family.  They  believed it was necessary and vital for safety.  In that case, we respected the wishes of the family out of concern for them.  This was their day to remember Caylee and we wanted to make it as special as possible all the while honoring our Lord Jesus.  

I am sorry that you disagree with this decision, but I would pray that you continually lift us up in prayer and ask for God’s merciful presence with us to protect and to comfort every time we open our doors for memorials.

 

Sincerely,

Pastor David Uth
Sr. Pastor

First Baptist Church Orlando

3000 S. John Young Parkway

Orlando, FL  32805

While I respect members of "the cloth" I have to wonder how the playing of cecular music, the uplifting of a murderer, and the lies of a family in "mourning" were at all uplifting to Jesus Christ?

He did not mention if they had to obtain additional insurance for fire given the lighting strikes that must have been edited out of the news media each time Cindy and Lee opened their mouth to lie speak.

I am Catholic (think what you will), but NO one is turned away regardless of the families wishes.  The Church closes their door to NO ONE, it is in the Bible.  Any Bible following Church will agree, it is just not done.  I am sorry but I call foul here and think that this Church was doing nothing more than self promoting and fund raising themselves, in a backwards sort of way.

Their intentions may have been good, but in the end it was just the Cindy Show.

I am also Catholic (or at least raised that way) and I disagree. The Church I grew up in kicked me out because I brought my stepson to church after he was accused of child molestation - granted he did do the crime but at that time we did not know that it was a pattern not an incident. I was told that if I was so stupid to bring a kid to a mass after he sinned then I did not deserve to be a member of the church. This is a parish that my great grandparents donated the land for! BUt I think that is a personality of that parish not all of the Catholic church.

[flossy]

Good morning Dolce,,, I feel and hear your passion, and it does my heart good to see someone wanting the "right" thing s done with these missing people. Everytime a new person comes up missing, the older missing people get pushed further and further back.
Remember Trenton Ducket? Well, after his mother killed herself, the media just forgot about little Trenton. His father still searches for his son, and will probally never know what truley happened.

The not knowing what happened is the worst feeling to have for a missing family member.
MAybe we need to change the NEWS.. I do not know how to make it fair, but, I feel the need for some changes.  jmo mio

You are right, Mio.  Their little faces should be kept in the media - we need to be reminded that they are still missing and to be able to recognize them in case they are still alive and could be spotted. 

[Anna]

I had written the church about my concerns about refusing persons entrance to a church and how non christian I considered it.  This is the reply I received, which makes no sense at all in reference to my original email. I don't know if he got the emails mixed up or what, but here is the reply.

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While we appreciate your concern for our church, we think it is very important for you to know the truth.  You have the right to believe or say anything that you would like, but the least we can do is to respond in the spirit of Christ and to honor God’s word when Paul says speak the truth in love!

When we were approached by the family, about hosting them, we were glad to do so because this is what we believe Jesus would do.  However, because of the nature of this case it quickly became apparent to us that the level of security would be unprecedented for us.  Even in the Payne Stewart Memorial we did not have this level of security.  The reason for this is due to the family’s request, as well as law enforcement.  After numerous meetings with both parties, we  developed a plan that we believed would insure a safe and worshipful environment in which to remember Caylee.

The use of metal detectors, bag searches, and restricted access for a handful of people were at the request of the family.  They  believed it was necessary and vital for safety.  In that case, we respected the wishes of the family out of concern for them.  This was their day to remember Caylee and we wanted to make it as special as possible all the while honoring our Lord Jesus.  

I am sorry that you disagree with this decision, but I would pray that you continually lift us up in prayer and ask for God’s merciful presence with us to protect and to comfort every time we open our doors for memorials.

 

Sincerely,

Pastor David Uth
Sr. Pastor

First Baptist Church Orlando

3000 S. John Young Parkway

Orlando, FL  32805

While I respect members of "the cloth" I have to wonder how the playing of cecular music, the uplifting of a murderer, and the lies of a family in "mourning" were at all uplifting to Jesus Christ?

He did not mention if they had to obtain additional insurance for fire given the lighting strikes that must have been edited out of the news media each time Cindy and Lee opened their mouth to lie speak.

I am Catholic (think what you will), but NO one is turned away regardless of the families wishes.  The Church closes their door to NO ONE, it is in the Bible.  Any Bible following Church will agree, it is just not done.  I am sorry but I call foul here and think that this Church was doing nothing more than self promoting and fund raising themselves, in a backwards sort of way.

Their intentions may have been good, but in the end it was just the Cindy Show.

I am also Catholic (or at least raised that way) and I disagree. The Church I grew up in kicked me out because I brought my stepson to church after he was accused of child molestation - granted he did do the crime but at that time we did not know that it was a pattern not an incident. I was told that if I was so stupid to bring a kid to a mass after he sinned then I did not deserve to be a member of the church. This is a parish that my great grandparents donated the land for! BUt I think that is a personality of that parish not all of the Catholic church.

I'm Catholic, too, and it was St. Mark the Apostle in Washington, D.C. where my son was charged $500 plus fee to priest and yes, there was security related to jobs of some in attendance.  And both he and his fiancee were registred members there as well.

So I know also that not all Churches are open to the public 24/7.  That is the one where Requim for Kennedy was held and it is locked when not in use.  It's in a very quesstionable neighborhood and if it were not, I think a lot of things would go missing.

[Dolce]

Good morning Dolce,,, I feel and hear your passion, and it does my heart good to see someone wanting the "right" thing s done with these missing people. Everytime a new person comes up missing, the older missing people get pushed further and further back.
Remember Trenton Ducket? Well, after his mother killed herself, the media just forgot about little Trenton. His father still searches for his son, and will probally never know what truley happened.

The not knowing what happened is the worst feeling to have for a missing family member.
MAybe we need to change the NEWS.. I do not know how to make it fair, but, I feel the need for some changes.  jmo mio

Good morning Mio.  I agree with you 100%!  The news needs to be changed and the focus be brought back to our missing loved ones along with the fear put into the hearts and minds of those who may have thoughts of taking them.

[Dolce]

I am also Catholic (or at least raised that way) and I disagree. The Church I grew up in kicked me out because I brought my stepson to church after he was accused of child molestation - granted he did do the crime but at that time we did not know that it was a pattern not an incident. I was told that if I was so stupid to bring a kid to a mass after he sinned then I did not deserve to be a member of the church. This is a parish that my great grandparents donated the land for! BUt I think that is a personality of that parish not all of the Catholic church.

How very sad.  Our Priests are the exact opposite. Our Parish's focus though is more on changing lives and making a difference in the communities.  I grew up in the Catholic church, however my parents believed that we needed to learn and understand all religions, which myself and my brother have learned and do. 
If taking from the Bible it clearly is stated that NO ONE is to be turned away in their time of need or while seeking redemption.

[Dolce]

I guess what I am trying to get at here with all of this is just this...
If it was truly an event to Remember Caylee and to bring closure to those who have hurt for this child then there would be no need to turn anyone away.  The pain of loss is the same no matter how you cut it, yes some might be deeper than others, but the pain is still there just the same. 
If Cindy and George were honestly there to memorialize Caylee than they would have been willing to put aside their differences for the 2 hours allotted and aloud those who needed to pay their respects to do so, regardless of any role they have played in this case thus far.
It all boils down to the fact that this was not Cindy's intentions, but rather it was Cindy's way to be in the media while using Caylee as a pedestal for the "Free Casey" campaign.

[numbersgirl]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18701735/index.html

Sorry if this has been posted already

Thank you for posting this link.  I listened to this video all the way through.  George makes a big pitch that this family needs donations to go to KFN and they already have a website using this child's name.

What?  TES is putting boots on the ground...bringing equipment in to search...WTF is KFN doing? 

NO MENTION OF DONATIONS TO TES. I am so angry I am crying right now....God, please make them stop.

What is KFN doing?? For shame!!  KFN may provide a giant billboard in a few days while all TES will be doing is just searching. KFN will provide George to drive the billboard, if the public will just open their hearts to pay for the gas and compensate him for his time. TES' horses, they just eat grass. Come on people, there's no comparison: KFN--BILLBOARD, GEORGE, DENNIS AND SHERRI, Gel Bracelets, T-shirts; TES--some guy name Tim and a few horses and some strange equipment, and a bunch of strangers tramping around looking and looking...

Yes, KFN will provide a giant billboard...one that is purchased from another of Milstead's enterprises called Gotcha Billboards! 

[mioyshi]

Good morning Dolce,,, I feel and hear your passion, and it does my heart good to see someone wanting the "right" thing s done with these missing people. Everytime a new person comes up missing, the older missing people get pushed further and further back.
Remember Trenton Ducket? Well, after his mother killed herself, the media just forgot about little Trenton. His father still searches for his son, and will probally never know what truley happened.

The not knowing what happened is the worst feeling to have for a missing family member.
MAybe we need to change the NEWS.. I do not know how to make it fair, but, I feel the need for some changes.  jmo mio

Good morning Mio.  I agree with you 100%!  The news needs to be changed and the focus be brought back to our missing loved ones along with the fear put into the hearts and minds of those who may have thoughts of taking them.

now, to only figure out a workable plan. Time Miller was sort of pushed into searching for missing, as he knows the drill when it comes to le, polygraphs, and more so, he knows the statistics of locations and distances where missing people have been found.  But look at the tool it has takenon his own welfare. Searching full time for missing children or adults is very trying on your soul.

For the last year, we have been attempting to tweek a sort of tracking of the thief. We have gone down many avenues to seek knowledge, so we too can bring home our missing loved one. But, with each case we research, the rules change for searching. Mostly because of the media coverage, lack of funds( which I never understand) or non involvement of the perpetrator.

Jessica Lundsford was hidden in a closet, and the le walked right passed that closet without finding her. She was  then buried alive, and not but a few houses from her own bed, by a convicted sex offender.  People just do not want to get involved, and with all the accusations by the now lawyers of casey to the searchers, one can understand the lack of want to get involved.

The night Judith Osteen was taken from her home, a  local sexual predator, (whom we later learned she knew) was checked by le. Le said perv had taken his ankle bracelet OFF THAT NIGHT.  Perv lied, and said he did not know Judith.  Perv was never taken into the sheriffs office to be interogated,  by the fbi,  but, WE were... go figure with this good ol boy routine.

The more rural the area, the less the news coverage stays. Now that george has been to see Haliegh, maybe the news WILL stay there until they find this child. I hope so anyway.

[Puzzler]

IMO..I'm so sorry that beautiful little Caylee was killed; however, since she was, I'm so glad she was finally found and that there has now been a memorial in her name.  This needed to happen. Now it's over.

How do you move a mountain?  Bit by bit...a little at a time until you come to the bottom of the mountain.  Liken this to finding Casey guilty.  It was necessary to find Caylee.  Yes, it was a horrible find.  But worth it: fingerprints on the duct tape, heart, blanket, dna from bones, plastic trash bag with yellow ties, pull-ups with flowers, etc.  All these things will find Casey guilty. 

It does NOT matter one whit what the Anthony's do or what they say or how they act or who they protect.....the EVIDENCE presented in a courtroom will find Casey guilty....and maybe others, too.

Right now...with the finding of Casey and the memorial behind us, it puts the focus more on where it should be....at the bottom of the mountain...or....on achieving justice for Caylee.  The focus needs to be on the facts and evidence and Casey...AND anyone else who aided and abetted Casey (Lee?). 

The mountain is almost moved.  Near the bottom is the widest part...so much more to move at the bottom...in particular, the trial.  Cindy and George are accessories, so-to-speak, in the after-math of the tragedy know as Caylee.  The main deal is the murderer and the trial of the murderer and bringing justice to Caylee.

Can't wait!!

[Puzzler]

Maybe the Haleigh thread shoud take precedence over the Caylee Anthony thread on the main page.

No offense to you Grama, but why should Hayleigh take precedence over Caylee?  Why should Caylee or Hayleigh take precedence over Adji?  Why would any of them take precedence over Natalee.......where do you draw the line as to who is first and where?  The list of missing persons just continues to grow and grow and grow.  Sorry I took offense to this, but not against you personally.

Let me add to this that I am not taking offense to YOU Grama, I am taking offense to the media and how they follow cases (not SM).  Why is one considered to be more important than another and who determines that?
I get that a missing white girl is more of a selling point...but how can they sleep at night after pushing one to the back and another to the front?
(Did that make sense?)
George and KFN have done this - yet it is not being covered by the media.  That is a HUGE story in and of itself!!

I wish the media would pick up on the fact that Kidfinders is there and would expose them again.  Kidfinders needs to be run out of town IMO.

George?  George is a grieving man, trying to find some little bit of purpose in life and somewhere to place his feet that has steady ground.  Think about it....his sunshine granddaughter was horribly murdered, found in a condition so horrible to put into words, it's obvious his own daughter killed this beautiful little girl that was so loved by her grandparents, and George himself said he couldn't bear to think that anyone he raised would kill his granddaughter, AND Cindy...my, my, my...the man loves her but that doesn't mean it's easy to live with her AND his son...I don't think we know eveything about Lee yet (one thing's for sure...he's constantly marching to a different drummer).  I'm not saying George is perfect by any means, but I wouldn't want to live his life.  Like he said at the memorial: you wouldn't want to be in any of our shoes.  No...I sure wouldn't want to be. 

[Today]

[BooMonkey]

Morning Monkeys!! Morning Joy! I see you up there lurking!! 

Happy Friday the 13th! What a wonderful day for amazing things to happen! We have a 80% full moon so be prepared for some wackiness to happen.

Dolce, all I can say is I'm so PROUD of you!!    I'm proud of all of you that do not stand back and decide not to get involved. The world needs more Monkeys!!

[TURBOTHINK]

hello Turbo, and thank you for your intrest.. Her name is Judith Osteen. She is from Old Town florida. She was forcable carried out of her house by a white man, with greying hair on dec 16th, 2007.  It was the same time that Gary Hilton was killing women here in north florida.  You can google her name, as I have posted , and posted and posted till I have posted out about her, until the threats came, and I slowed down on posting, for our own safety here.
I just have not put her name here, dont know why, ....mio

This is an interesting story. I don't get the feeling it had anything to do with online men, but locals. I am going to do some more research on this one.  I found it interesting a man who resembled her abductor disappeared right after her.  What is being hidden in that county?  Is there a large meth distributor around there that you know of?