Natalee Case Discussion #801 2/18/09 - 2/21/09

[Keepthefaith]

Hope the rest of you can keep the few visitors occupied.  See you later. 

Goodnight 2nj!

slowpoke (sp?)     

I tried.I got home and saw that the odds were STACKED AGAINST ME!

[hotping]

Nite Wreck and 2NJ! 

[hotping]

Hope the rest of you can keep the few visitors occupied.  See you later. 

Goodnight 2nj!

slowpoke (sp?)     

I tried.I got home and saw that the odds were STACKED AGAINST ME!

 

[Keepthefaith]

Hope the rest of you can keep the few visitors occupied.  See you later. 

Goodnight 2nj!

slowpoke (sp?)     

I tried.I got home and saw that the odds were STACKED AGAINST ME!

 

Hotping.You OK?That stackin juice hasn't weared off yet?

[Keepthefaith]

On a serious note.TM.You should bring over that article about Oduber,his brother,the chinese.Wish it was in english!

[hotping]

Everything is Cool here  KTF.....Just Chillin after all that Stackin.....

[texasmom]

On a serious note.TM.You should bring over that article about Oduber,his brother,the chinese.Wish it was in english!

Will do, hopefully we'll get a better translation!  

[Keepthefaith]

Everything is Cool here  KTF.....Just Chillin after all that Stackin.....

Yep.Just searchin different companies top see if we can make more connections that can stick!

[texasmom]

2/16/2009 Diario

http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/frontpage/index.html




http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/noticia/news4.html

Papiamentu translation:

crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca merca is preocupa cu relacion nel oduber y china interesnan personal of family is hungando one rol come across!

oranjestad (aan): daily paper owing to achieve informacion much delicado tocante one crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca. ultimo time have one view particular y preocupante of gobierno of merca for cu the relacion among nel oduber y gobierno of aruba cu some country comunista. on nivelnan high this is worde discuti y relata. kingdom dutch also will owing to cai inside y already end owing to send various message for first minister nelson oduber. also have all indicacion cu on level internacional is monitoria movecionan of aruba his gobierno y nel oduber provided that particular. have even intencionan cu if gobierno of nel follow cu the lazonan here the can have consecuencia pisa for aruba cu will can emboca in restrincionan for cu we island y his economia. the locual cu is haci the situation more dificil still is aruba his localidad geografico in door of sur-america caminda also have movecionan socialista/communista of rusia y china therefore.e. at venezuela y others paisnan in region. now have entendi cu the lazonan of nel oduber his gobierno y gobierno of republica comunista of china is birando more acute. this owing to place cu ultimamante reaccion americano also owing to become more acute y preocupante. this is haci cu the netherlands at one instant or another will can take cierto decisionan unilateralmente first cu estados unidos of america will have to revoca some lasonan cu aruba cu all consecuensia for aruba. the future desaroyonan cu gobierno of nel y republica comunista of china will worde scrutina on level extra-ordinario. recientemente camara of comercio of aruba owing to deny also of participa in one declaration of policy in cual productonan of china will owing to worde present at aruba for clientenan in region come see. sinembargo aruba will owing to core cu all the gastonan while cu eventual bentanan will not owing to core via aruba. this owing to place cu not was have interest local for participa in the proyecto here cu is worde promovi for brother of nel oduber, esta ruben oduber cu is representatnte of the compania “ciicbiz” of china cu cual gobierno of aruba owing to company one contract cu is costa we country centenares of thousand of dollar. camara of comercio owing to let know of not will participa at the asunto here. the origen of the relacion cu china owing to inicia on insistencia of brother of nel oduber, ruben oduber that have much interest in the relacion here. now the relacion cu china is bao of one microscope already cu they will wanted cumpra valero also y have till even indicacion cu nel oduber owing to company cu petrochina for cumpra the refineria. so china will achieve one posicion strategico at aruba. gobierno of merca is extremely preocupa cu the desaroyo here cu have one aspecto of crisis diplomatico combina cu one aspecto of corrupcion ashamed for aruba y kingdom dutch. hour cu the lineanan here is core directamente for cabez of the gobierno of one country the integridad y confiabilidad of aruba is worde soil y atacha door of actonan of gobernantenan. the reciente publicacionnan of corrupcion raporta door of oficialnan of the netherlands on the imagen of gabinete oduber is achieve now more right for preocupacion on level internacional. the throw of platform also cu companianan foreigner y insistencia sospechoso for stay cla for realisa “un success fee” all is discribi the potret of one gobierno corupto cu do not interesa in dañonan cu the is cause tanto on level diplomatico because; on level of imagen for aruba. perdida of one institute as klm recientemente is completa the imagen of one country in one decadencia overall follow behind another for escandalonan on level diplomatico for motibo of vinculonan cu is confirma corupcion y interesnan aheno. come across

[Keepthefaith]

2/16/2009 Diario

http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/frontpage/index.html




http://www.diarioaruba.com/dialuna/noticia/news4.html

Papiamentu translation:

crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca merca is preocupa cu relacion nel oduber y china interesnan personal of family is hungando one rol come across!

oranjestad (aan): daily paper owing to achieve informacion much delicado tocante one crisis diplomatico among aruba y merca. ultimo time have one view particular y preocupante of gobierno of merca for cu the relacion among nel oduber y gobierno of aruba cu some country comunista. on nivelnan high this is worde discuti y relata. kingdom dutch also will owing to cai inside y already end owing to send various message for first minister nelson oduber. also have all indicacion cu on level internacional is monitoria movecionan of aruba his gobierno y nel oduber provided that particular. have even intencionan cu if gobierno of nel follow cu the lazonan here the can have consecuencia pisa for aruba cu will can emboca in restrincionan for cu we island y his economia. the locual cu is haci the situation more dificil still is aruba his localidad geografico in door of sur-america caminda also have movecionan socialista/communista of rusia y china therefore.e. at venezuela y others paisnan in region. now have entendi cu the lazonan of nel oduber his gobierno y gobierno of republica comunista of china is birando more acute. this owing to place cu ultimamante reaccion americano also owing to become more acute y preocupante. this is haci cu the netherlands at one instant or another will can take cierto decisionan unilateralmente first cu estados unidos of america will have to revoca some lasonan cu aruba cu all consecuensia for aruba. the future desaroyonan cu gobierno of nel y republica comunista of china will worde scrutina on level extra-ordinario. recientemente camara of comercio of aruba owing to deny also of participa in one declaration of policy in cual productonan of china will owing to worde present at aruba for clientenan in region come see. sinembargo aruba will owing to core cu all the gastonan while cu eventual bentanan will not owing to core via aruba. this owing to place cu not was have interest local for participa in the proyecto here cu is worde promovi for brother of nel oduber, esta ruben oduber cu is representatnte of the compania “ciicbiz” of china cu cual gobierno of aruba owing to company one contract cu is costa we country centenares of thousand of dollar. camara of comercio owing to let know of not will participa at the asunto here. the origen of the relacion cu china owing to inicia on insistencia of brother of nel oduber, ruben oduber that have much interest in the relacion here. now the relacion cu china is bao of one microscope already cu they will wanted cumpra valero also y have till even indicacion cu nel oduber owing to company cu petrochina for cumpra the refineria. so china will achieve one posicion strategico at aruba. gobierno of merca is extremely preocupa cu the desaroyo here cu have one aspecto of crisis diplomatico combina cu one aspecto of corrupcion ashamed for aruba y kingdom dutch. hour cu the lineanan here is core directamente for cabez of the gobierno of one country the integridad y confiabilidad of aruba is worde soil y atacha door of actonan of gobernantenan. the reciente publicacionnan of corrupcion raporta door of oficialnan of the netherlands on the imagen of gabinete oduber is achieve now more right for preocupacion on level internacional. the throw of platform also cu companianan foreigner y insistencia sospechoso for stay cla for realisa “un success fee” all is discribi the potret of one gobierno corupto cu do not interesa in dañonan cu the is cause tanto on level diplomatico because; on level of imagen for aruba. perdida of one institute as klm recientemente is completa the imagen of one country in one decadencia overall follow behind another for escandalonan on level diplomatico for motibo of vinculonan cu is confirma corupcion y interesnan aheno. come across

Thanx TM!

[texasmom]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3167.340

Buckeye posted:

Posted by Pearl at BFN:

News snippet; am looking for more:

Aruban PM Says Dutch Secret Service are Wiretapping Him

THE HAGUE, 16/08/08 - The Prime Minister of Aruba, Nelson Oduber, claims that the Dutch intelligence service AIVD is monitoring his phone ...

under INTERNATIONAL
http://www.nisnews.nl/

Google translated:

   
Oranjestad - The Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has made declarations against the AIVD, the security service because his phone would have drained. Oduber base its declaration on two articles in Aruban newspapers.
The newspapers Diairio and Awe Mainta had reported that the prime minister will be tapped in connection with dubious activities of his brother. That is suspected of tens of millions in European money to put into an energy project in India.According to Prime Minister Oduber it is not the first time that there is message about possible eavesdropping by the Dutch security service AIVD. He wants the declaration to get clarity on the issue.

http://www.wereldomroep.nl/news/domestic/5919599/Arubaanse-premier-doet-aangifte-tegen-AIVD

[hotping]

Good Night TM and KTF and 3 Guests! 

[texasmom]

Good Night TM and KTF and 3 Guests! 

Goodnight Hotping!  I'm not far behind you!   

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night TM and KTF and 3 Guests! 

Goodnight Hotping,as wellas TM.Who needs college with all the sh_t i'm learning about just researching companies.Who needs a financial advisor.Research oil companies at Scared Monkey's and become a Multi-millionaire!!!

                              JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
                                  GOODNIGHT AND GOD BLESS
                                             KEEPTHEFAITH

[Lifesong]

Below is the timeline, still a work in progress of course.  I wanted to go ahead and get it posted even though its late tonight, as I'll be in and out of meetings all day tomorrow.

Please, everyone, feel free to add to or correct this as needed. 



General Timeline for Schaefer, Silvetti, the Persistence search and affiliated companies/organizations


12/18/2006
Superior Offshore International has announced the acquisition of Subtech Diving and Marine Pty Ltd in Durban, South Africa.  Subtech’s role in the group is to support the international contracting entities within the group structure in a planned expansion programme by Superior to enter other international markets.

02/14/2007
John D. Silvetti, Conrad Daigle, and Marianne Silvetti-Voorhies register Aim For A Cure, Inc.; a Louisiana, non-profit corporation

04/03/2007
Acergy wins contract to install pipeline for Petrobras a contract worth USD 400 million in Brazil to install the Mexilhao gas export trunkline

04/20/2007
Initial Public Offering of Superior Offshore Int’l; raised $152 million

05/2007
Schaeffer contacts Dave Holloway
Schaefer purchases $3.5m home

07/05/2007
Schaefer rings opening bell @ NASDAQ stock market


08/14/2007
After defendants and other Company insiders liquidated over $49 million of their personally held shares -- Superior Offshore begins revealing the truth about the Company problems existing at the IPO on 04/20/2007

09/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa is appointed as a major subcontractor to the Dredging International/Group 5 Consortium which has been awarded the DHEW (Durban Harbor Entrance Widening & Deepening contract) in Durban, South Africa.

11/2007
Superior Offshore South Africa has purchased a Modular Jack-Up Barge which is expected to significantly enhance the company’s capacity in terms of inshore civil marine operations.

11/14/2007
Superior Offshore shares decline again after defendants belatedly revealed that the Company was operating even below its recently revised forecasts, and that its core business was operating even worse than previously disclosed.

11/27/2007
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman describes the mobilization: "We will leave the dock at Midnight on 27-November, 2007 to perform a "wet-test" on all the gear. This test will take approximately 2 days, where we will calibrate and test all the equipment under real survey conditions."

11/30/2007
Persistence departs for Aruba

12/2007
Persistence search team meets with ALE Detective & his brother with a "vision", giving latitude of cage

12/15/2007
Persistence arrived at Aruba – “1615 hrs: ARRIVED at Aruba pilot station. Port Authorities board and the Persistence is cleared for docking.”

12/18/2007
“UPDATE: 1510 hrs: The Persistence has begun the search.”

12/20/2007
“Thurs. 20-Dec -0430 hrs:  The Persistence has completed the first day of the side scan sonar search.”

12/20/2007
CapsLockWizard registers at SM, 09:38:24 PM

12/22/2007
Persistence team tests sensing equipment using local construction materials for a wire trap to confirm detection and signatures. 

12/22/2007
This is the date Caps claims in a 1/30/08 posting on SM that he “started to look at the case of Natalee.”

12/25/2007
Trap found.  Per oceanexploration (Kyle Kingman):  “The trap in Video 1-3 was found from the first conducted ROV dive.  I found the target at 1:46 am on Christmas morning.  It was my #1 ranked priority target and therefore the first of the ROV dive series.”

12/29/2007
ROV visual inspection of the trap

12/30/2007
ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap.  Tim Trahan's "No, nothing," dive.  Dateline & Tim Miller off the ship.

01/07/2008
ALE divers retrieve contents of the cage.
Persistence loses internet connection for 2 days.

01/09/2008
Superior Offshore announced that it was suspending its prior substantially downward revised guidance. (Last date of stock purchases included in class action suits)

01/10/2008
Kyle has a few days off of the boat; stays at the HI from 1/10 to 1/14.

01/11/2008 -01/12/2008
Kyle claims he saw a Dutch/Aruban vessel (Panter) on site over the cage location.

01/17/2008
CapsLockWizard’s first posting to SM Forum, 10:18:50 PM

01/17/2008
Persistence gets call to help the “Michelle” in distress.

01/21/2008
Caps posts:  “Klaasend:  Any news from BT?  Need her to communicate”

01/22/2008
HOUSTON, Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Superior Offshore
International, Inc. (Nasdaq: DEEP) today announced that it has completed the
sale and charter-back of the Superior Achiever with Hornbeck Offshore Services
LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Hornbeck Offshore Services, Inc. (NYSE: HOS)

02/2008
The previous owners of Subtech Diving and Marine have negotiated the buy back of Superior Offshore South Africa from Superior Offshore International Inc.

02/07/2008
Caps posts on SM open forum regarding what the new witness claims to have seen

02/12/2008
Council of Ministers of Aruba makes a decision leading Edison Briesen, Minister of Tourism & Transportation to appoint MTBS  (Maritime & Transport Business Solutions) as Project Manager to lead and direct the redevelopment of the Aruban harbor areas.

02/15/2008
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman posts a request for donations through Texas Equusearch.

02/22/2008
E. Briesen sends a letter to Juan Manuel Trujillo in Madrid, Spain advising him of the appointment of MTBS as Project Manager of the redevelopment of Aruban harbor areas.

02/22/08
The Dateline episode on the Persistence search is broadcast.

02/26/2008
Dana Pretzer hosts Art Wood on his radio show. Concerning the Persistence search, Art says, “They've identified over 100 possible targets that could be Natalee on the ocean floor. They're trying to narrow that list to 30 or 40 more likely targets, they can dive on them however John has informed us that they have run out of money. Actually, if they can't come up with some donations within the next week to 10 days, they're going to be bringing the boat home.”

02/27/2008
Two members of the Persistence crew perform side scan sonar survey of the Montserrat pond.

02/27/2008
Robin posts the cage pictures received from the FBI.

02/28/2008
Kyle, posting at SM, makes two references to having been away from the search.  “I'm getting caught up with the data collected while I've been off the boat.”  “I've personally been handling the matter* while I was on the east coast last week.“
[*Note: the matter = selling television rights to the search]

02/29/08
The first class action lawsuit against Superior Offshore Int’l is announced on behalf of shareholders who purchased stock between 4/20/07 and 1/09/08.


03/01/2008
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman announces the side scan sonar search is complete.

03/02/2008
Kyle Kingman and the search team of the Persistence fly out of Aruba.

03/03/2008
Persistence and crew leave Aruba, sailing to the home port in Louisiana

03/20/08
Private Eye reveals to Kyle his knowledge of the blue denim and skull in an open post on the SM Forum.

04/03/2008
When asked how much money would be needed to complete the search, John D. Silvetti posts at BFN under the screenname dsurveyor1 “It is very difficult to say, since Louis has not selected a ROV vessel and we do not know how much of a humanitarian discount we can count on by the vessel and ROV owners, but my guess is that we will be looking at around 1 million dollars.”

04/03/2008
John D. Silvetti posts at BFN under the screenname dsurveyor1, “We received support from the Police, the Coast Guard, the Port Authority and vitually anyone we needed help from.”


06/2008
Petrobras talks/meetings were held in ARUBA

06/29/2008
Kyle Kingman flies to John Silvetti’s house

12/23/2008
John D. Silvetti, Conrad Daigle, and Marianne Silvetti-Voorhies register OSV Determination, L.L.C.; a Louisiana limited liability company.

[texasmom]

Good Night TM and KTF and 3 Guests! 

Goodnight Hotping,as wellas TM.Who needs college with all the sh_t i'm learning about just researching companies.Who needs a financial advisor.Research oil companies at Scared Monkey's and become a Multi-millionaire!!!

                              JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
                                  GOODNIGHT AND GOD BLESS
                                             KEEPTHEFAITH

Goodnight and God bless you too KTF! 

Keep on diggin', and never give up hope!  The Truth will be uncovered, and hopefully Justice will follow!

 

[texasmom]

Thank you for posting the timeline Lifesong!   

[Lifesong]

Thank you for posting the timeline Lifesong!   

It's so hard to find a stopping place when you know there's more...

   

I'm glad it's up too!

[texasmom]

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TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

[texasmom]

Thank you for posting the timeline Lifesong!   

It's so hard to find a stopping place when you know there's more...

   

I'm glad it's up too!

Well you've done a very good job so far!  I really appreciate your putting it together.  You can always add more to it!