Natalee Case Discussion #801 2/18/09 - 2/21/09

[Sleuth]

Published: Today 07:39
Update: vandaag 08:31 Update: Today 08:31

Met de komst van een nieuw te bouwen vijfsterrenhotel lijkt de economische crisis op Aruba weinig te bestaan. With the advent of a new build five economic crisis seems to be little in Aruba. De regering in Oranjestad maakte donderdag bekend een contract te hebben getekend met de hotelketen Ritz-Carlton voor de constructie van een toeristisch resort. The Government in Orange City Thursday was known to have signed a contract with the hotel chain Ritz-Carlton for the construction of a tourist resort. Daarbij is een investering van ruim 160 miljoen euro gemoeid. It is an investment of over 160 million euros.
Volgens een regeringswoordvoerder heeft Aruba vijftien jaar geijverd om het sterrenhotel naar het eiland te halen. According to a government spokesman Aruba fifteen years has been the star to the island to retrieve. Aruba wil voorkomen dat het een massatoerismebestemming wordt en richt zich steeds meer op de rijke toerist die minder gevoelig zou zijn voor recessies. Aruba wants to prevent a mass tourism destination, and increasingly focuses on the rich tourists who would be less sensitive to recessions. ,,We willen een vijfsterrenbestemming worden en investeren daarom veel in het verbeteren van het centrum en de haven'', aldus de woordvoerder. ,, We want a five star destination and invest so much in improving the center and the harbor''said the spokesman.

De gevolgen van de mondiale crisis lijken op Aruba voelbaar te worden in het toerisme maar zijn niet dramatisch. The effects of global crisis similar to Aruba to be felt in the tourism industry but not dramatically. Time-shareprojecten hebben het moeilijker; een enkele staat op de rand van faillissement. Time-share projects are difficult, one is on the brink of bankruptcy.

Ritz-Carlton is onderdeel van Marriott International dat al een hotelfiliaal onder de eigen naam op Aruba heeft. Ritz-Carlton is part of Marriott International hotel that has a branch under its own name on Aruba has. De bevolking heeft kritiek geuit dat de populaire witte stranden aan de westkust van Aruba worden volgebouwd met hoogbouw hotels, waaronder Hyatt, RIU, Westin, Holiday Inn en Radisson. The people have criticized the popular white beaches on the west coast of Aruba are built with high-rise hotels, including Hyatt, RIU, Westin, Holiday Inn and Radisson.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.depers.nl/economie/286331/Crisis-te-lijf-met-superhotel.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daruba.startpagina.nl%26hl%3Den

Thank you Hotping.

Yes, I'm hearing that those papers were signed.  If I remember correctly, this is the land by the Fishermen's Huts.

[Magnolia]

Can someone tell me who "Agent Shipley" is.  He went to Aruba on March 18, 2008.
I can't place him.

[cajun miracle]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

[Keepthefaith]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes Cajun.I just figured it was me!

[Mere]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes...it must have something to do with being Cajun....lol

[cajun miracle]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes Cajun.I just figured it was me!

Thanks KTF

[Sleuth]

Can someone tell me who "Agent Shipley" is.  He went to Aruba on March 18, 2008.
I can't place him.

He was the one who supposedly told the family that Natalee that Natalee was most likely dead.

[cajun miracle]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes...it must have something to do with being Cajun....lol

Hey Mere, You gave me the best laugh of the day. Thanks and Happy Mardi Gras to ya.   

Cajun Miracle

[Sleuth]

Magnolia - here is the info regardign Shipley from the Who's Who thread...

SHIPLEY, Doug – FBI agent on Aruba, who informed family on 6-10-05 that there was little chance Natalee was alive.

[Magnolia]

Can someone tell me who "Agent Shipley" is.  He went to Aruba on March 18, 2008.
I can't place him.

He was the one who supposedly told the family that Natalee was most likely dead.

Thank you, Sleuth!

[Keepthefaith]

pursuant to which each of the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch has agreed, subject to certain exceptions, not to offer or sell any shares of Common Stock or securities convertible or exchangeable or exercisable for shares of Common Stock for a period of at least 180 days from April 19, 2007 without the prior written consent of the Representatives. The Lock-Up Agreements with the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch are attached hereto as Exhibits B, C and D, respectively.

http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1h16

When did Schaefer unload his stock?

[Magnolia]

Magnolia - here is the info regardign Shipley from the Who's Who thread...

SHIPLEY, Doug – FBI agent on Aruba, who informed family on 6-10-05 that there was little chance Natalee was alive.

In Kermit's timeline last night it says that Agent Shipley arrives in Aruba March 18, 2008
They must have sent him back about the pond draining or something.
Mos asked for the pond to be drained the next day.

My lines are jumping too, Cajun.

[Mere]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes...it must have something to do with being Cajun....lol

Hey Mere, You gave me the best laugh of the day. Thanks and Happy Mardi Gras to ya.   

Cajun Miracle

   Fingers crossed for good weather....!

[2NJSons_Mom]

pursuant to which each of the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch has agreed, subject to certain exceptions, not to offer or sell any shares of Common Stock or securities convertible or exchangeable or exercisable for shares of Common Stock for a period of at least 180 days from April 19, 2007 without the prior written consent of the Representatives. The Lock-Up Agreements with the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch are attached hereto as Exhibits B, C and D, respectively.

http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1h16

When did Schaefer unload his stock?

Didn't take the time to find Kermit's rundown, but am pretty sure it was November, 2007.  I'll see if I can find Kerm's post to be positive. 

[cajun miracle]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes...it must have something to do with being Cajun....lol

Hey Mere, You gave me the best laugh of the day. Thanks and Happy Mardi Gras to ya.   

Cajun Miracle

   Fingers crossed for good weather....!

Thanks Magnolia & Mere. Should be good weather, at least the forecast so far. Not riding a float this year, so it won't matter to me.

[Magnolia]

Hey, Do all of you have jumping pages or lines? It's driving me nuts!!!!!!!!

Yes...it must have something to do with being Cajun....lol

Hey Mere, You gave me the best laugh of the day. Thanks and Happy Mardi Gras to ya.   

Cajun Miracle

   Fingers crossed for good weather....!

Thanks Magnolia & Mere. Should be good weather, at least the forecast so far. Not riding a float this year, so it won't matter to me.

Let the good times roll!!

[Keepthefaith]

pursuant to which each of the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch has agreed, subject to certain exceptions, not to offer or sell any shares of Common Stock or securities convertible or exchangeable or exercisable for shares of Common Stock for a period of at least 180 days from April 19, 2007 without the prior written consent of the Representatives. The Lock-Up Agreements with the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch are attached hereto as Exhibits B, C and D, respectively.

http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1h16

When did Schaefer unload his stock?

Didn't take the time to find Kermit's rundown, but am pretty sure it was November, 2007.  I'll see if I can find Kerm's post to be positive. 

Thanx 2nj.LifeSong.This may be worth a short look in terms of Schaefer setting this stuff up with Koch then unloading his stock.May or may not fit with anything in the timeline.Putting it out there FWIW!

[Sleuth]

YW Magnolia

Here is the source of the information.  Beth to Joe Scarborough

'Scarborough Country' Monday, October 24, 2005

SCARBOROUGH:  You talk about the flipping.  Didn‘t Joran point at the other two brothers and then they got angry and there may have been some threats going back and forth? 

HOLLOWAY TWITTY:  You know, Joran van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were not denying.  They were not denying a crime.  They were implicating each other.  They were fingering each other over and over again.

And that was the day that the FBI came in, Doug Shipley (ph) came in and said that the way the interrogations are unfolding, there‘s a strong possibility that Natalee may not be alive.  That was huge.  That was the day that—I think, Joe, everyone buried Natalee that day, on June 10.  

And then it just—from there, the night went on.  There were body sightings, countless.  They were knocking on my door.  They thought they found her.  Oh, no, they didn‘t.  It went on from 2:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m.  It was horrific.

So, whatever was happening that day, on June 10, we were getting the answer.  Then, the next day, June 11, is when Prime Minister Oduber comes on international media and announces to the world that there‘s blood; there‘s blood in Deepak and Satish Kalpoe‘s car.  I mean, all that was happening for a reason. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/

[2NJSons_Mom]

pursuant to which each of the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch has agreed, subject to certain exceptions, not to offer or sell any shares of Common Stock or securities convertible or exchangeable or exercisable for shares of Common Stock for a period of at least 180 days from April 19, 2007 without the prior written consent of the Representatives. The Lock-Up Agreements with the Partnership, Mr. Schaefer and Mr. Koch are attached hereto as Exhibits B, C and D, respectively.

http://www.secinfo.com/dsvRu.u243.htm#1h16

When did Schaefer unload his stock?

Didn't take the time to find Kermit's rundown, but am pretty sure it was November, 2007.  I'll see if I can find Kerm's post to be positive. 

Thanx 2nj.LifeSong.This may be worth a short look in terms of Schaefer setting this stuff up with Koch then unloading his stock.May or may not fit with anything in the timeline.Putting it out there FWIW!

NOVEMBER 2007 LOUIS SCHAEFER SELLS HIS STOCK:

11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.84
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.82
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.80
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 187 $8.75
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 125 $8.74
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.72
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.71
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 658 $8.70
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.69
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.68
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.64
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.60
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.50
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.42
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.34
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.23
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.22
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.17

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4179.msg557914;topicseen#msg557914

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I know I had found it on another site & posted a couple of times but chose to search for Kermit's. 

[Sleuth]

One last tidbit regarding Doug Shipley that links him to Quantico...


From the  Dr. Phil list of case documents....

Name/Title: Laboratory Report
File No: 163a-bb-1426
Date: 29 August 2005
Pages: 10
Writerllnitiator: Douglas S. Shipley/ Brendan F. Shea
Description: DNA Laboratory Report
Source: FBI, Quantico VA
Lab nr: 050611001KS RT
Location: Quantico VA, Aruba