Natalee Case Discussion #801 2/18/09 - 2/21/09

[Kermit]

You are all more then welcome...and honestly, no thanks are necessary.

May I say that was a great timeline you put together and very useful. Thank you too.

[Tamikosmom]

Capslockwizard said: "The Natalee case and the Ritz Carlton scandal need to be expose to the world to show how corrupt the MEP government is. They are the root of all the corruption on the Island. Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan. They are the cornerstone of the Corruption in Aruba.

Capslockwizard said: "Remains were taken on January 17 sent to the FBI on January 22/24.............."

It appears that that Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan could have a legal field day when Kyle Kingman's words are considered.

 

The drive bys refuse to discuss Kyle Kingman words ... words that imply John Silvetti was a participant in the finale to the great Aruban coverup.

Janet

[Kermit]

i bet they won't pay the debt back now.
these hotel projects on Aruba are always riddled with shady financial schemes.

* Like how did Posner come up with the money to buy a casino.
* Gov't owned the hotels
* Paulus van der Sloot worked as an attorney for the gov't when he first came to Aruba
* Antonio Carlos worked as an attorney for the gov't.
   Both of them work together now.

[Magnolia]

Capslockwizard said: "The Natalee case and the Ritz Carlton scandal need to be expose to the world to show how corrupt the MEP government is. They are the root of all the corruption on the Island. Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan. They are the cornerstone of the Corruption in Aruba.

Capslockwizard said: "Remains were taken on January 17 sent to the FBI on January 22/24.............."

I saw that last quote a minute ago and I wondered if he got the date wrong or if there was another dive.
Of course he was never one to get the facts straight.

Charles Croes was really against the building of the Ritz Carlton too.

[Keepthefaith]

I figured something was up earlier Klaas!

When?

Janet

Can i answer Klaas?

Yes/No?

[Tamikosmom]

I figured something was up earlier Klaas!

When?

Janet

Can i answer Klaas?

Yes/No?

It does not matter?

 

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

I figured something was up earlier Klaas!

When?

Janet

Can i answer Klaas?

Yes/No?

It does not matter?

 

Janet

Thank you Janet.It really doesn't!

[Keepthefaith]

Like Kermit said.We've hit a nerve!Once some great discussions get started.Pow..Drive-by.Let's Keep Rolling!

[Tamikosmom]

Capslockwizard said: "The Natalee case and the Ritz Carlton scandal need to be expose to the world to show how corrupt the MEP government is. They are the root of all the corruption on the Island. Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan. They are the cornerstone of the Corruption in Aruba.

Capslockwizard said: "Remains were taken on January 17 sent to the FBI on January 22/24.............."

Hi Kermit

Could I please have the links to the above two quotes.

Thank you.

Janet

[klaasend]

I figured something was up earlier Klaas!

When?

Janet

Can i answer Klaas?

Yes/No?

I thought I already answered

[Lifesong]

Capslockwizard said: "The Natalee case and the Ritz Carlton scandal need to be expose to the world to show how corrupt the MEP government is. They are the root of all the corruption on the Island. Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan. They are the cornerstone of the Corruption in Aruba.

Capslockwizard said: "Remains were taken on January 17 sent to the FBI on January 22/24.............."

Hi Kermit

Could I please have the links to the above two quotes.

Thank you.

Janet

Janet and all, just fyi...I'm still grabbing all of the info that comes through the thread and will include w/links in the updated timelines.  I'll mark new items so they'll be easy to spot.

Any items not verified yet just won't have links.  I've already cleaned up a few duplicate entries with slightly different dates.

[Kermit]

sorry I don't recall the person who posted this image for credit to him/her

Left to Right in Picture

1. David Brown (Valero PR Director)
2. source do not know
3. source do not know
4. Jan van Ness (GM Playa Linda) (ex director ATA)
5. Rob Smith (ex GM Westin) (CEO AHATA)
6. Michell Brooks (HR Director Hyatt) (Ex HR employee Radisson)
7. Roland Peterson (SNBA - San Nicholaas Busisness Assoc.) (Ex Chief of Aruba Police during 1986-1990)
8. Source do not know
9. Fritz Isreal (director of Marketing at ATA)
10. Jorge Pesquera (Ex CEO AHATA) (President of convetion center of West Palm Beach FL.)

A New Board for AHATA
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005
The Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association voted in a new board at its general assembly which took place at the Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino.

The owner of the Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino, businessman Alfonso Riveroll, became the new Chairman of the Board for the Association.

Fellow hotelier Ewald Biemans, Bucuti Beach Resort & Tara Suites, became 1st Vice Chair while Warren Stanley, Atlantis Adventure assumed the role of 2nd Vice Chair. Marriott General Manager Rick Zeolla will serve as Treasurer of the Association and Alex Nieuwmeyer, Divi & Tamarijn Beach Resort accepted responsibilities as the board’s Secretary.

Board members voted in are businessman Eduardo de Veer, Renaissance/Meta Corp; Banker Bill Carson, Caribbean Mercantile Bank; hotelier Scott Allen, Hyatt Regency; Director Peter Steinmetz, Aruba Airport Authority; Public Relations official David Smith, Valero Oil Refinery, Lisette Malmberg, De Palm Tours and hotelier Werner Hein, Occidental Resort.

The election process was assisted by Dr. Ryan Peterson, Universidad di Aruba, attorney Antonio Carlo and Marlene Purcell, Salamander Holdings under the supervision of consultant Jaap Beaujon.

The new board is seen here in the picture with members of the outgoing board and Jorge Pesquera AHATA’s President and CEO.
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_12_04_archive.html


The government of Aruba allocates close to 10 million dollars annually to
promote the island abroad through Aruba Tourism Authority.
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=53670

Aruba Hotel & Touism Association
Pesquera, President & CEO
Bill Carson, CMB Carribean Mercantile Bank;
David Smith, Valero Refinery;
Rick Zeolla, Marriott Resorts
Rob Smith, Aruba Westin Resort & Casablanca Casino
Peter Steinmetz, AAA, Aruba Airport Authority




San Antonio-based Valero, the largest U.S. refiner, faces expiration of an exemption at the end of 2010, which shields it from Aruba's 28 percent tax rate. Valero has owned the 79-year-old Aruba plant since it purchased the facility for $627 million from El Paso Corp. in 2004. The refiner sold its 121-year-old facility in Lima, Ohio, for $1.9 billion in May 2007, and is exploring the sale of its refineries in Krotz Springs, La.; Memphis, Tenn.; and Ardmore, Okla.
The Aruba refinery is capable of processing 275,000 barrels of crude a day. The 800-acre complex includes two delayed coking units, which use heat and pressure to process heavy crude, such as the grades derived from Petrobras' offshore fields.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/MYSA041608_02D_valerorefinery_2f6254a_html.html



Valero refinery that processes Venezuelan oil for sale on the East Coast of the United States, and the
Dutch oil giant Shell is expanding its reach into Venezuela.
http://tinyurl.com/5nvm3n


DIARIO a haya bisbita di Bill Day di Valero
Wednesday, 29 October 2008 00:00 Local
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Recientemente DIARIO a haya bishita di Bill Day.E ta ocupa e funcion di "director of media relations" di Valero Energy na Merca y pa Aruba.Hunto cu Mariaine Arends Croes, kende ta e vocero di Refineria Valero na Aruba el a bin combersa un rato riba diferente desaroyo cu tin actualmente rond di e refineria staciona na Aruba.
Naturalmente a papia riba e ultimo acontecimentonan caminda e director di media relations a mustra riba e responsabilidad cu nan tin pa cu loke a pasa.
Na DIARIO e ehecutivonan di refineria Valero a ser ricibi di parti di gerencia Jossito Mansur y Luis Miguel Mansur mientras cu Nelson Speed Andrade tabata presente como parti di redaccion di DIARIO y pa e contactonan estrecho cu esnan di e refineria.
http://www.diario-aruba.com/200810294757/Local/DIARIO-a-haya-bisbita-di-Bill-Day-di-Valero.html

[Kermit]

Hi Kermit

Could I please have the links to the above two quotes.

Thank you.

Janet

One was in an email
the other I think is Caps posts from here.

[Kermit]

Like Kermit said.We've hit a nerve!Once some great discussions get started.Pow..Drive-by.Let's Keep Rolling!

Exactly.

[Lifesong]

This also..
Colombia had just crossed the border into Ecuador and found a FARC camp where Colombian soldiers killed most and found computers that contained detailed information that proved Hugo Chavez supports fully the FARC with money from the time he takes control of Venezuela.
 Hugo then threatens Colombia "President Uribe" with Military action and "president Correa" of Ecuador joins into the threat against Colombia for crossing its borders.
"President Lula" of Brazil  and president Urbie call in the U.S. as they are both allies and can do that kind of thing....
 Then next we see a air-born military command show up in ARUBA "Air force 2" to monitor the situation and Persistence eventually pulls out..
Hugo backs down and so does Correa..and everything settles back down.
Just another day in South America..

All this is date recorded by news articles posted at BFN in this thread..
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7483.720

and that is the way it was.

Thank you, Edward.  This information helps too.  I want to see the whole picture!

[Kermit]

Capslockwizard said: "The Natalee case and the Ritz Carlton scandal need to be expose to the world to show how corrupt the MEP government is. They are the root of all the corruption on the Island. Rudy Croes, Nelson Oduber, Booshi Wever, Ben King, Sloots, Some reporters, some of the parliamentarian of MEP and Nilo Swan. They are the cornerstone of the Corruption in Aruba.

Capslockwizard said: "Remains were taken on January 17 sent to the FBI on January 22/24.............."

I saw that last quote a minute ago and I wondered if he got the date wrong or if there was another dive.
Of course he was never one to get the facts straight.

Charles Croes was really against the building of the Ritz Carlton too.

Whoa!
Really?

Well, that is interesting.

...because it was lalasmom who wanted to know why I posted 7 Catrini in the Shango thread.
She was so interested about it, she asked about it more then once.

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle
It turns out it is near Charles Croes home and also someone else.

[Tamikosmom]

You monkeys are on a roll great job!

keep it up frog, we are looking for more ammunition. Keep posting...PLEASE!!!! You all are making this waaaaay too easy!!!

Enough of the drive byes and trying to start trouble.

Janet  - this is why.  There was no arguing going on.  Everything was going along smoothly then she posted the above. 

Janet, She is now saying that those good businessmen are going to sue you for threatening to spit on them.

Magnolia ... Please tell me "where" Lou is stating the above.

In other words ... Link Please!

Thank you.

Janet

[klaasend]

Janet ..

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=871.0

[Keepthefaith]

Janet ..

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=871.0

It's very interesting to see who's in chat as we speak!

[Magnolia]

You monkeys are on a roll great job!

keep it up frog, we are looking for more ammunition. Keep posting...PLEASE!!!! You all are making this waaaaay too easy!!!

Enough of the drive byes and trying to start trouble.

Janet  - this is why.  There was no arguing going on.  Everything was going along smoothly then she posted the above. 

Janet, She is now saying that those good businessmen are going to sue you for threatening to spit on them.

Magnolia ... Please tell me "where" Lou is stating the above.

In other words ... Link Please!

Thank you.

Janet

GM recent post  I am scared to post the actual link.  I don't think Klaas will allow it.