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Topic: Haleigh Cummings #2 2/20/09 - 2/26/09 (Read 320556 times)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on February 20, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
You don't hear much about the little boy, I wonder if he was abused, and who knows what info he has told, probably a lot. I could have sworn I read that the bio mother's boyfriend made a comment about when it was time to go back to the father's house Haleigh would fuss about having to go back.
yes, I heard that also and that terrifies me because that is how my son acted when he knew he was due a visitation with his father, I called my therapist and he told me that fear of specific persons or places is a number one indicator of molestation.........turns out he was right
Although, once he told me he was scared I NEVER let him visit again.......
Island If I could, I would HUG you right now. I can't even fathom what your mind has been through, let alone what your Son has been through.
Thanks Deenie~maybe that explains why my mind is mush now.....but, he is doing great now, but there will always be lingering issues in our future-we just trust God will continue to heal those wounds and in the meantime, I feel like at least we can help raise awareness of what to look for so others don't have to go thru the same hell on earth {{{hugs}}}
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on February 20, 2009, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on February 20, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
You don't hear much about the little boy, I wonder if he was abused, and who knows what info he has told, probably a lot. I could have sworn I read that the bio mother's boyfriend made a comment about when it was time to go back to the father's house Haleigh would fuss about having to go back.
yes, I heard that also and that terrifies me because that is how my son acted when he knew he was due a visitation with his father, I called my therapist and he told me that fear of specific persons or places is a number one indicator of molestation.........turns out he was right
Although, once he told me he was scared I NEVER let him visit again.......
Hope your dad is doing fine. Right from the start Ron bothered me, I hope I'm wrong with my feelings.
Thanks~he did well on his stress test today, so I am praying it's the statin's he take that are making him feel this way. Ron has always bothered me too..........other than the obvious, I feel there is something else and I just can't put my finger on it yet.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Today on February 20, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
If Geraldo's photo of Haleigh being beat up is accurate, how come there wasn't a police report? We have found reports on everything else. Is it possible that it would be sealed because she is a minor? Florida has such open records I am curious.
Did he show a picture?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Today on February 20, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
If Geraldo's photo of Haleigh being beat up is accurate, how come there wasn't a police report? We have found reports on everything else. Is it possible that it would be sealed because she is a minor? Florida has such open records I am curious.
There IS one photo of her that I noticed what looks like bruises from fingers on her right arm....it's the one that shows her birthmark on the side of her face.....D@MN, I go look because I noticed it days ago and it looks like someone grabbed her way too hard and firmly gripped her arm.
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/18711660/detail.html
I can't copy it, but it is photo 15 of 19........some other monkey take a look and tell me what you see, I'd love another opinion
I can't copy it either ARR - I see what looks like a Indian rug burn - when one's arm is grabbed and the skin is twisted in opposite directions. Leaves a Purplish skin burn. Due to the capillaries directly under the skin are broken. For God Sakes - Hmm.
I do see too that Haleigh is either eating something that is runny - such as melted chocolate, or BBQ Sauce. If you look at her face under her bottom lip - spots.
I can't tell if it is Food or Impetigo.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: nonesuche on February 20, 2009, 08:46:53 PM
Klaas he clearly believes that Ronald beat up Haleigh but he didn't outright state "I know he did it"?
deenie, I didn't hear what you are referring to in the Geraldo broadcast on Bill O Reilly, but I may have missed the very beginning. I was on a work call that finished late.
tcumom, you are welcome. I hope you have a good night and you and your family are doing well.
Speaking of O Reilly and Geraldo.. I was looking to see if the Geraldo being discussed was online and found this.. Im sorry, I can not help myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaeVGiFTKJA&feature=related
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Today on February 20, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
If Geraldo's photo of Haleigh being beat up is accurate, how come there wasn't a police report? We have found reports on everything else. Is it possible that it would be sealed because she is a minor? Florida has such open records I am curious.
There IS one photo of her that I noticed what looks like bruises from fingers on her right arm....it's the one that shows her birthmark on the side of her face.....D@MN, I go look because I noticed it days ago and it looks like someone grabbed her way too hard and firmly gripped her arm.
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/18711660/detail.html
I can't copy it, but it is photo 15 of 19........some other monkey take a look and tell me what you see, I'd love another opinion
I can't copy it either ARR - I see what looks like a Indian rug burn - when one's arm is grabbed and the skin is twisted in opposite directions. Leaves a Purplish skin burn. Due to the capillaries directly under the skin are broken. For God Sakes - Hmm.
I do see too that Haleigh is either eating something that is runny - such as melted chocolate, or BBQ Sauce. If you look at her face under her bottom lip - spots.
I can't tell if it is Food or Impetigo.
I think it's probably food:
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Today on February 20, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
If Geraldo's photo of Haleigh being beat up is accurate, how come there wasn't a police report? We have found reports on everything else. Is it possible that it would be sealed because she is a minor? Florida has such open records I am curious.
There IS one photo of her that I noticed what looks like bruises from fingers on her right arm....it's the one that shows her birthmark on the side of her face.....D@MN, I go look because I noticed it days ago and it looks like someone grabbed her way too hard and firmly gripped her arm.
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/18711660/detail.html
I can't copy it, but it is photo 15 of 19........some other monkey take a look and tell me what you see, I'd love another opinion
I can't copy it either ARR - I see what looks like a Indian rug burn - when one's arm is grabbed and the skin is twisted in opposite directions. Leaves a Purplish skin burn. Due to the capillaries directly under the skin are broken. For God Sakes - Hmm.
I do see too that Haleigh is either eating something that is runny - such as melted chocolate, or BBQ Sauce. If you look at her face under her bottom lip - spots.
I can't tell if it is Food or Impetigo.
It is more clear when they show it on tv......that isn't the best pic I've seen of it, but on tv you can see individual fingers, at least I did, enough to make a mental not of it anyway.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Island - Months Back you gave me Your Email - I saved it -
YOU have Nanners
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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I hope that Haleigh was not physically abused...God that pisses me off if that happened..
I am not going to believe anything like that until I see pictures, which I don't want to see, or have proof of it...If Geraldo has a picture, then wouldn't it have been reported and wouldn't you all have found that? someone would have seen that report by now, either by one of you monkeys or on WS....I think that the dad does have a mean streak in him, but I feel that he loves his kids...dear God...let her be ok....
Listening to NG now...
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 09:52:07 PM
Island - Months Back you gave me Your Email - I saved it -
YOU have Nanners
Thanks Deenie~nanners back!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Hello All,
Its strikes me as odd that they still have the home taped off. Geez, the Ants were hardly ever booted from their abode, let alone for 10 days (+/-). What's up?
Foggy
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Deenie
, don't know if you ever read my thanks for the avi some time ago.
But last night I was very tired and thanked Desi too
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Foggy Dew on February 20, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
Hello All,
Its strikes me as odd that they still have the home taped off. Geez, the Ants were hardly ever booted from their abode, let alone for 10 days (+/-). What's up?
Foggy
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Deenie
, don't know if you ever read my thanks for the avi some time ago.
But last night I was very tired and thanked Desi too
Good point about the house . You would certainly think they had searched it completely by now. Why can't they return? Why is it still taped off?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 20, 2009, 10:29:01 PM »
You know, we don't know what time the Dad came home. The 911 call was made after he came home and we only have Misty's word for this ... and that isn't saying alot.
Anything is possible with him. Is there a time window here ? He could have come home enraged or been set off as soon as he came in. That might explain some of the hinky factor with Misty. Ok, going back to watch NG.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 20, 2009, 10:38:31 PM »
I do not agree with the animosity toward the family.
The father reminds me of Mark Lunsford. He wants his daughter back
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 20, 2009, 10:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:36:40 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 20, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Today on February 20, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
If Geraldo's photo of Haleigh being beat up is accurate, how come there wasn't a police report? We have found reports on everything else. Is it possible that it would be sealed because she is a minor? Florida has such open records I am curious.
There IS one photo of her that I noticed what looks like bruises from fingers on her right arm....it's the one that shows her birthmark on the side of her face.....D@MN, I go look because I noticed it days ago and it looks like someone grabbed her way too hard and firmly gripped her arm.
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/18711660/detail.html
I can't copy it, but it is photo 15 of 19........some other monkey take a look and tell me what you see, I'd love another opinion
I can't copy it either ARR - I see what looks like a Indian rug burn - when one's arm is grabbed and the skin is twisted in opposite directions. Leaves a Purplish skin burn. Due to the capillaries directly under the skin are broken. For God Sakes - Hmm.
I do see too that Haleigh is either eating something that is runny - such as melted chocolate, or BBQ Sauce. If you look at her face under her bottom lip - spots.
I can't tell if it is Food or Impetigo.
ok well to me it looks like paint, on her arm and fingers... I do hope I am right
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: klaasend on February 20, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Foggy Dew on February 20, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
Hello All,
Its strikes me as odd that they still have the home taped off. Geez, the Ants were hardly ever booted from their abode, let alone for 10 days (+/-). What's up?
Foggy
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Deenie
, don't know if you ever read my thanks for the avi some time ago.
But last night I was very tired and thanked Desi too
Good point about the house . You would certainly think they had searched it completely by now. Why can't they return? Why is it still taped off?
great question, I've been wondering that for about 8 days...........
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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I just don't know. This Dad doesn't remind me of Mark Lunsford. Too much of a hot head.
I believe and trust the GrandMa's.
I also know that Lunsford did not have a squeaky clean past, but there were never the allegations of abuse towards Jessie. And his parents were at home when this happened. They were good people. I do think about them even after these few years.
Maybe it's just me, can't warm up to any of these people in this case.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Deenie on February 20, 2009, 04:40:13 PM
Hi Monkeys
I am confused I thought on the news it was said that Crystal and Ronald were never married. Were they Married?
I saw on Misty's brother's old Myspace that he graduated from Freeland High School in Michigan. I checked in the Saginaw County Clerk Site and there is records under the name Croslin.
http://www.saginawcounty.com/scripts/criminal.pl
Clester Leon Croslin Jr - I think that the County site has a Typo and it is to be Chester.
CHG DISP COUNT MCLA/ORDINANCE CHARGE DESCRIPTION CHARGE DATE
Nolle Pros 01-00 750.110-B B & E OCCUP DWELLING 11/30/1983
Guilty Plea 02-00 750.92-B B & E ATTEMPT OCC DW 3/22/1984
I checked the Michigan OTIS - Offender tracking site and there are NO Croslins in the data base. It searches all State and County Jails and all Michigan Correctional Facilities.
The other Names that came up were Civil Cases - closed in 2000
Name:Croslin, Dawn Renee - plaintiff
Name:Croslin, Adam Troy - defendant
Appears to be Divorce proceedings
However it does show that Dawn Renee had a PPO issued against Adam
4/26/2000 WR* FILING FEE WAIVED 00042703 $100.00
4/26/2000 C CASE FILED WITH CIRCUIT COURT
4/26/2000 - COMPLAINT AND MTN FOR PPO FILED BY PLAINTIFF
4/26/2000 001 (STAT COLLECTION)
4/26/2000 * UNSIGNED EX PARTE PPO FWD TO CRTRM WITH FILE
4/28/2000 8EX EX PARTE PERSONAL PROTECTION ORDER, EXPIRES:
4/28/2000 - 04-27-01
4/28/2000 1LX (STATISTICAL COLLECTION)
4/28/2000 FDO FINAL DISPOSITION--OTHER
4/28/2000 RET FILE RETURNED TO CLERK S OFFICE
4/28/2000 RCO FILE RETURNED FROM COURT TO CLERK S OFFICE
5/8/2000 SUP REVIEWED, CLERK S OFFICE SUPERVISOR
3/2/2001 POS PROOF OF SERVICE: 02/26/2001, ADAM CROSLIN
3/2/2001 SPO PPO SERVED ON DFDT BY POLICE OFFICER
3/2/2001 - SERVED BY SGT. HALL OF MIDLAND CO
4/30/2001 * CONFIRMATION PPO EXPIRED (4-27-01) FILED BY LEIN
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*** Was thinking maybe there is Still Ties to Michigan for the Croslin Family
Ok Monkeys trying to catch up but this is crazy to me this is my county ..I know that school oh my goodness...
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Quote from: nonesuche on February 20, 2009, 08:46:53 PM
Klaas he clearly believes that Ronald beat up Haleigh but he didn't outright state "I know he did it"?
deenie, I didn't hear what you are referring to in the Geraldo broadcast on Bill O Reilly, but I may have missed the very beginning. I was on a work call that finished late.
tcumom, you are welcome. I hope you have a good night and you and your family are doing well.
If that's true, it could be one reason Haleigh supposedly missed so much school.
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I don't want to cause any disagreements here. I don't have any real strong feelings about this one way or another and I have been waffling around. One thing we can agree on is that there are way too many SO's near this family.
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=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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