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« Reply #1600 on: February 25, 2009, 11:58:42 PM »

New video of Haleigh on Greta... just a small clip opening Christmas presents this past Christmas.

Phone interview w/Crystal's mother.  She said she's heard rumors that put Misty at a party house that night and had left someone else to stay with the children.  Rumors only

Asked by Greta what she thinks should be done, said she'd be talking extensively to RC & Misty because they're the ones who are there every day & know who has been in and around the house.

Hmmmm.. rumors or not, that's interesting! 

Unfortunately rumors and police records are really all we have to go on at this point


And don't forget body language, meta-messages, and the ever popular hinky meter! As subjective as they may be, I still find them useful . 



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« Reply #1601 on: February 25, 2009, 11:59:48 PM »

Aerial photos are fine. 

FYI - Brandi is a valued member and a wonderful photoshop artist but is not in charge 

Thank you Klaas, I never know how to reach you, but than you always magically appear!!
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« Reply #1602 on: February 26, 2009, 12:00:08 AM »

RC's pastor is on, he stated RC is not an official informant........curious as to why he chose to throw in the word "official"...weird

Ah yes, the pastor... He certainly did Ron no favors with some of what he said tonight.  I agree with you about the comment "not an 'official' informant", made me immediately think, okay was he an unofficial informant then? 

And then the pastor talks about how Ron has been trying to do the right thing, turn his life around, etc.  Then he says he talked with Ron who told him (something to the effect of) he worked his 8 hour shift and went home.  Specifically said EIGHT hours.  Ermmm.. Ron supposedly works a 12 hour shift.  Was the pastor saying that Ron told him he had worked 8 hours that day?   

We've heard that Ron supposedly works from 3 pm to 3 am.  And yet...

We've heard Ron say that he picked Haleigh up from the bus stop, taking her home before going to work.  That would have put him at work around 4 pm or so.  If he had worked 8 hours, as the pastor said, that would have put him back home around midnight. 

In one of Misty's earliest everchanging stories, I heard her say that she checked on the kids before going to sleep at 10 pm, covering Haleigh up with the blanket she had washed and dried.  And then, "when WE woke up it was around 3 am".  She didn't ever repeat the WE again.  But I wondered then... Who is the WE she had referred to? 

Could it have been Ron?  Could he have been at home from midnight on??   
 
I just popped back on and was catching up.......WYKS~great catch, I didn't even catch that part......but, I've heard the statement you are referring to as well and twice from Ron, he said he left the kids in bed at 10pm under Misty's care........now, we have to ask was the employer lying when he said Ron was at work the entire time, or if he only worked 8 hrs-that opens a whole new can of worms

What I've heard reported is that it was confirmed that Ron was at work that night.  Haven't heard reported exactly the words that yes, Ron was at work his entire 12 hour shift that night.  From Ron's own words, we know that he worked about 11 hours that night. 

I sure wish we'd start getting straight up info, it's really hard to put anything together with what we're getting.  sigh.
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« Reply #1603 on: February 26, 2009, 12:00:34 AM »

Anybody here know about a boat (John Boat) and a van?
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« Reply #1604 on: February 26, 2009, 12:02:02 AM »

New video of Haleigh on Greta... just a small clip opening Christmas presents this past Christmas.

Phone interview w/Crystal's mother.  She said she's heard rumors that put Misty at a party house that night and had left someone else to stay with the children.  Rumors only

Asked by Greta what she thinks should be done, said she'd be talking extensively to RC & Misty because they're the ones who are there every day & know who has been in and around the house.

Hmmmm.. rumors or not, that's interesting! 

Unfortunately rumors and police records are really all we have to go on at this point


And don't forget body language, meta-messages, and the ever popular hinky meter! As subjective as they may be, I still find them useful . 




very true.......I find them useful as well, you have to go with your gut, and heart.
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« Reply #1605 on: February 26, 2009, 12:02:55 AM »

Anybody here know about a boat (John Boat) and a van?

There was the mysterious van mentioned in the infamous blanket story, but we don't know whose or when or.... whatever...



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« Reply #1606 on: February 26, 2009, 12:02:56 AM »

Anybody here know about a boat (John Boat) and a van?
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« Reply #1607 on: February 26, 2009, 12:03:20 AM »


On that statement from the pastor about "he's not an official informant" .... right before that he said "That's not to say he (RC) hasn't done things he doesn't regret ... but he's not an official informant".   I think that went together and if so, would add meaning to the not-an-official-informant. 

But JVM was moving on, didn't catch the official informant part.



Yep!  The talking heads all go so fast am thinking they rarely hear the whole answer, let alone key points in an answer.  There's so many times I'm yelling at the screen for them to back the train up and zero in on whatever was just said.   
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« Reply #1608 on: February 26, 2009, 12:04:00 AM »

They all get me riled up and hinky meters going gang busters.

I'm bringing the rumors of a boat and a van over...
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« Reply #1609 on: February 26, 2009, 12:04:29 AM »

im reposting this cause all these similar names drive me crazy(crazier?).

thanks to wyks and brandi for compiling it so far.

In case we don't have all the who's who in this case... here's another list, am still filling in info on some:

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Mother of Haleigh is Crystal Diane Sheffield – age 24

Crystal's mother is: Nancy Marie Griffis – age 43 (second marriage to Bruce A. Griffis in 2002 in Putnum County, Florida)

Crystal's father is: Johnny Marcus Sheffield – age 46 – Satsuma and MacClenny

Crystal's siblings are: Sarah Lavon, Marcus, Savannah

Crystal's step-mother (married to her father): Connie Sheffield - age 29?

Crystal's step-father (married to her mother): Bruce A. Griffis – age 46 – Glen St. Mary, Lake City, Sanderson, Lawstoy

Crystal's boyfriend/fiance: Chad Griffis – age 29 (may be son of step-father or step-uncle)

Griffis relatives: Victor Griffis – age 52; Deborah Lynn – age 48; Jill – age 25

FATHER

Father of Haleigh is Ronald Cummings – age 25

Ronald's father: Jack Cummings

Ronald's mother: Theresa Neves

Ronald's girlfriend: Misty Croslin

FATHER'S GIRLFRIEND

Misty Croslin – age 17

Misty's father: Hank Thomas Croslin – age 40

Misty's mother: Lisa Croslin – age 39

Misty's siblings: Lindsey and Chelsea

Misty's father’s occupation: owns T&T Drywall Company – Hank Croslin, Inc.

Misty's father’s relatives: Chester Leon – age 44; Adam Troy – age 43;
June Marie – age 63; Timothy A. – age 21 (this could be Misty's older brother); Michael – (no age given)



Corrections from my notes to your list of who's who:

"Mother of Haleigh is Crystal Diane Sheffield – age 24 .... "

According to my notes, she is 23, born on 8-30-1985:
Crystal Sheffield, 23, mother. Was at her home when Haleigh disappeared.
Currently lives in Glen Saint Mary, Florida.

In addition to yours, I also have:
Andrew Sheffield, uncle of Crystal Sheffield.
Sarah Sheffield, sister, 21 years old. MACCLENNY, Florida

Crystals children are:
Haleigh Ann Marie Sheffield, 5, (DOB: 8-15-2003)
Ronald (Junior) Cummings (aka butterbean) 4, brother of Haleigh. (DOB: 2-14-2005)
Chloe, 9 months as of Jan.15, 2009

Aunts: Katrina Belcher, Dana

For Ronald's side of the family, I have:

Ronald Lemyles Cummings, 25, father. DOB: 10-19-1983.

Crystal Cummings, Ronald's sister, aunt to Haleigh.

Teresa Ann Never, 48, Ronald's mother, grandmother of Haleigh, Alachua County SO Dispatcher. DOB: 3-7-1960.
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« Reply #1610 on: February 26, 2009, 12:06:05 AM »


On that statement from the pastor about "he's not an official informant" .... right before that he said "That's not to say he (RC) hasn't done things he doesn't regret ... but he's not an official informant".   I think that went together and if so, would add meaning to the not-an-official-informant. 

But JVM was moving on, didn't catch the official informant part.



Yep!  The talking heads all go so fast am thinking they rarely hear the whole answer, let alone key points in an answer.  There's so many times I'm yelling at the screen for them to back the train up and zero in on whatever was just said.   


I KNOW!!! JVM and NG both... there'll be an obvious follow-up question just screaming to be asked and they just move right on to the next thing as if they're not even hearing what is said. GAH!




 
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« Reply #1611 on: February 26, 2009, 12:08:24 AM »

Good night all; going to try to get some sleep while it is still dark outside for a change. Wink

Keep sleuthing!
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« Reply #1612 on: February 26, 2009, 12:09:51 AM »

I have posted a few times about this johnboat. I have yet to hear that LE confirmed they had taken one. Can someone give me a link or something that confirms this boat belonged to RC or anyone else outside of LE for that matter. I know on day one there was a twitter report that LE drove by with a johnboat, but I am thinking it LE's boat that they used for searching. Again I may have just missed the confirmation that it was evidence. Can anyone confirm anything on this boat?

Maybe the boat belonged to someone else. LE hasn't told us who the van they're processing belongs to either. But for Misty's blanket to be in it, there has to be some connection there.

If so, it seems Misty and Ron should be suspecting that person or persons by now.
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« Reply #1613 on: February 26, 2009, 12:10:47 AM »

Peanut..the light bothers me as well...Also, the home is not that big...wouldn't you notice if a light was switched on near your room? why would a perp take the chance of turning on a light and someone seeing him??? makes no sense...they creep around in the dark, like dark houses and bushes outside the dark house to hide in etc....

Big fat yes to Peanut and Cookie and.. and sorry I forgot who else.... about the light being a red flag. Has always bothered me. Not impossible, but really peculiar and seems sort of generally unlikey and weird.

But then we're speculating this from the perspective that Miss Misty was home to even SEE the light going on. And jr. may not be as likely to notice a light. Or woud he? And even if he did, what would he likely do? He doesn't have a lot of options.

Still the more light, the better that someone will see you and ID you.. if there's anyone there to see you and ID you. And then the less light, the more bumping into stuff and knocking stuff over; But yet again if there's no one there but two kids under 5..... and perp knows that.

But that brings me back to...why no trace of the guy? Tracks, prints, tires, feet, etc. Is the ground so hard or grassy or whatever that there are NO prints or traces of people walking? No tracks or trace of someone going all those yards to "fetch" (southern) (TM me) the cinderblock aka "brick?" (TM Misty)

And Ron doesn't strike me as the type of dude not to know what's in his yard. Did he not say he had no awareness of a stack of cinderblocks or am I  losing it and need a nap? 



Yep, he said he hadn't noticed cinderblocks in his yard or near the house etc.  When the reporters panned the cameras around the back yard, they zoomed into the mobile home... and voila!!  Right there, near the right corner of the mobile home (looking at it from the back), a pile of cinderblocks very near to, almost under the mobile home itself.  Within feet of the side/back door where the ramp is, where the screen door was supposedly found propped open with a cinderblock.  And I was thinking then, "omg Ron, who the hell do you think you're kidding?"   
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« Reply #1614 on: February 26, 2009, 12:10:57 AM »


Thanks for the list, Peanut.

I could be wrong, but I could have sworn that Misty's siblings were two brothers, Timothy and Thomas Croslin and their wives, Misty's sisters-in-law are Lindsay and Chelsea; But I'm off caffeine today and clearly can't be trusted. .



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« Reply #1615 on: February 26, 2009, 12:13:38 AM »

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

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« Reply #1616 on: February 26, 2009, 12:14:49 AM »

Peanut..the light bothers me as well...Also, the home is not that big...wouldn't you notice if a light was switched on near your room? why would a perp take the chance of turning on a light and someone seeing him??? makes no sense...they creep around in the dark, like dark houses and bushes outside the dark house to hide in etc....

Big fat yes to Peanut and Cookie and.. and sorry I forgot who else.... about the light being a red flag. Has always bothered me. Not impossible, but really peculiar and seems sort of generally unlikey and weird.

But then we're speculating this from the perspective that Miss Misty was home to even SEE the light going on. And jr. may not be as likely to notice a light. Or woud he? And even if he did, what would he likely do? He doesn't have a lot of options.

Still the more light, the better that someone will see you and ID you.. if there's anyone there to see you and ID you. And then the less light, the more bumping into stuff and knocking stuff over; But yet again if there's no one there but two kids under 5..... and perp knows that.

But that brings me back to...why no trace of the guy? Tracks, prints, tires, feet, etc. Is the ground so hard or grassy or whatever that there are NO prints or traces of people walking? No tracks or trace of someone going all those yards to "fetch" (southern) (TM me) the cinderblock aka "brick?" (TM Misty)

And Ron doesn't strike me as the type of dude not to know what's in his yard. Did he not say he had no awareness of a stack of cinderblocks or am I  losing it and need a nap? 



Yep, he said he hadn't noticed cinderblocks in his yard or near the house etc.  When the reporters panned the cameras around the back yard, they zoomed into the mobile home... and voila!!  Right there, near the right corner of the mobile home (looking at it from the back), a pile of cinderblocks very near to, almost under the mobile home itself.  Within feet of the side/back door where the ramp is, where the screen door was supposedly found propped open with a cinderblock.  And I was thinking then, "omg Ron, who the hell do you think you're kidding?"   


I need to read about the new "touch DNA" for porous and non-porous materials, but surely whoever put the cinderblock there was wearing gloves.

(heh I just typed wearing cloves ......b/c I guess they wanted to smell delightful.)



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« Reply #1617 on: February 26, 2009, 12:17:57 AM »

im reposting this cause all these similar names drive me crazy(crazier?).

thanks to wyks and brandi for compiling it so far.

In case we don't have all the who's who in this case... here's another list, am still filling in info on some:

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MOTHER

Mother of Haleigh is Crystal Diane Sheffield – age 24

Crystal's mother is: Nancy Marie Griffis – age 43 (second marriage to Bruce A. Griffis in 2002 in Putnum County, Florida)

Crystal's father is: Johnny Marcus Sheffield – age 46 – Satsuma and MacClenny

Crystal's siblings are: Sarah Lavon, Marcus, Savannah

Crystal's step-mother (married to her father): Connie Sheffield - age 29?

Crystal's step-father (married to her mother): Bruce A. Griffis – age 46 – Glen St. Mary, Lake City, Sanderson, Lawstoy

Crystal's boyfriend/fiance: Chad Griffis – age 29 (may be son of step-father or step-uncle)

Griffis relatives: Victor Griffis – age 52; Deborah Lynn – age 48; Jill – age 25

FATHER

Father of Haleigh is Ronald Cummings – age 25

Ronald's father: Jack Cummings

Ronald's mother: Theresa Neves

Ronald's girlfriend: Misty Croslin

FATHER'S GIRLFRIEND

Misty Croslin – age 17

Misty's father: Hank Thomas Croslin – age 40

Misty's mother: Lisa Croslin – age 39

Misty's siblings: Lindsey and Chelsea

Misty's father’s occupation: owns T&T Drywall Company – Hank Croslin, Inc.

Misty's father’s relatives: Chester Leon – age 44; Adam Troy – age 43;
June Marie – age 63; Timothy A. – age 21 (this could be Misty's older brother); Michael – (no age given)



Corrections from my notes to your list of who's who:

"Mother of Haleigh is Crystal Diane Sheffield – age 24 .... "

According to my notes, she is 23, born on 8-30-1985:
Crystal Sheffield, 23, mother. Was at her home when Haleigh disappeared.
Currently lives in Glen Saint Mary, Florida.

In addition to yours, I also have:
Andrew Sheffield, uncle of Crystal Sheffield.
Sarah Sheffield, sister, 21 years old. MACCLENNY, Florida

Crystals children are:
Haleigh Ann Marie Sheffield, 5, (DOB: 8-15-2003)
Ronald (Junior) Cummings (aka butterbean) 4, brother of Haleigh. (DOB: 2-14-2005)
Chloe, 9 months as of Jan.15, 2009

Aunts: Katrina Belcher, Dana

For Ronald's side of the family, I have:

Ronald Lemyles Cummings, 25, father. DOB: 10-19-1983.

Crystal Cummings, Ronald's sister, aunt to Haleigh.

Teresa Ann Never, 48, Ronald's mother, grandmother of Haleigh, Alachua County SO Dispatcher. DOB: 3-7-1960.



Does anyone know Jack (Ron's dads middle name)???
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« Reply #1618 on: February 26, 2009, 12:18:10 AM »


I know we've been over this, and don't want to rile anyone up; but the whole door wide open thing just screams staged to me and I can't seem to get past it.

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« Reply #1619 on: February 26, 2009, 12:20:26 AM »


Thanks for the list, Peanut.

I could be wrong, but I could have sworn that Misty's siblings were two brothers, Timothy and Thomas Croslin and their wives, Misty's sisters-in-law are Lindsay and Chelsea; But I'm off caffeine today and clearly can't be trusted. .

oh...im not sure on her siblings either, i c&p it from a previous post from brandi and wyks.

will have to check more things out i guess, and also include all the kids from chad griffis.




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