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« Reply #1620 on: February 26, 2009, 12:21:10 AM »


I know we've been over this, and don't want to rile anyone up; but the whole door wide open thing just screams staged to me and I can't seem to get past it.

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ME TOO~after all wouldn't a perp wan't his crime to go unnoticed for as long as possible....easier to get more distance from crime scene to wherever????? That never made since to me.
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« Reply #1621 on: February 26, 2009, 12:22:06 AM »


Does anyone know Jack (Ron's dads middle name)???


Jack Lester Cummings.

But let me see...   how do I know that. . 



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« Reply #1622 on: February 26, 2009, 12:23:37 AM »


Jack Lester Cummings... according to this site;

However I don't know that it is exactly a beacon of journalisitic integrity.  . 

http://www.cafemom.com/group/99606/forums/read/7597486/Who_s_Who

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« Reply #1623 on: February 26, 2009, 12:24:15 AM »


I know we've been over this, and don't want to rile anyone up; but the whole door wide open thing just screams staged to me and I can't seem to get past it.

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ME TOO~after all wouldn't a perp wan't his crime to go unnoticed for as long as possible....easier to get more distance from crime scene to wherever????? That never made since to me.

i agree, that and the light on are def hinky. only way it would make any sense at all was if the intruder heard something/someone and booked out asap.
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« Reply #1624 on: February 26, 2009, 12:26:20 AM »

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=132095&catid=295

Detectives have talked to the child. Relatives on both sides say he told police he saw a man in a ski mask come in their trailer and leave with his big sister.

Just thought we'd throw a ski mask in to the all black outfit.

 

What they gonna add tomorrow, that he also saw a black 9mm Beretta (gun) ?? 

And the 4 yr old supposedly saw what he did in the dark bedroom. 
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« Reply #1625 on: February 26, 2009, 12:28:54 AM »

Peanut..the light bothers me as well...Also, the home is not that big...wouldn't you notice if a light was switched on near your room? why would a perp take the chance of turning on a light and someone seeing him??? makes no sense...they creep around in the dark, like dark houses and bushes outside the dark house to hide in etc....

Big fat yes to Peanut and Cookie and.. and sorry I forgot who else.... about the light being a red flag. Has always bothered me. Not impossible, but really peculiar and seems sort of generally unlikey and weird.

But then we're speculating this from the perspective that Miss Misty was home to even SEE the light going on. And jr. may not be as likely to notice a light. Or woud he? And even if he did, what would he likely do? He doesn't have a lot of options.

Still the more light, the better that someone will see you and ID you.. if there's anyone there to see you and ID you. And then the less light, the more bumping into stuff and knocking stuff over; But yet again if there's no one there but two kids under 5..... and perp knows that.

But that brings me back to...why no trace of the guy? Tracks, prints, tires, feet, etc. Is the ground so hard or grassy or whatever that there are NO prints or traces of people walking? No tracks or trace of someone going all those yards to "fetch" (southern) (TM me) the cinderblock aka "brick?" (TM Misty)

And Ron doesn't strike me as the type of dude not to know what's in his yard. Did he not say he had no awareness of a stack of cinderblocks or am I  losing it and need a nap? 



Yep, he said he hadn't noticed cinderblocks in his yard or near the house etc.  When the reporters panned the cameras around the back yard, they zoomed into the mobile home... and voila!!  Right there, near the right corner of the mobile home (looking at it from the back), a pile of cinderblocks very near to, almost under the mobile home itself.  Within feet of the side/back door where the ramp is, where the screen door was supposedly found propped open with a cinderblock.  And I was thinking then, "omg Ron, who the hell do you think you're kidding?"  


What video I keep hear about the cinder blocks too, but never saw them.  And one more thing, my husband worked the 3 to midnight shift for a year and he most definatly could not tell you what was in our yard at that time.  I hated it always had to cut the grass waaaaa!  But what video?
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« Reply #1626 on: February 26, 2009, 12:29:33 AM »

hearing... getting tired and wandering.
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« Reply #1627 on: February 26, 2009, 12:29:37 AM »

Oh well, we can delete this if it's not Ron's dad, but here are the records for Jack Lester Cummings.............pls, let this one be unrelated

Details:

UCN: 542000MM000155XXAXMX
File Date: 2000-01-18 Judge: PETER T MILLER   
Defense Atty: 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, JACK LESTER 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2000-01-18 1 COMPLAINT: JANET RICKS BATTERY-DVR 

2000-04-18 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION 


Details:

UCN: 542000CF001698XXAXMX
File Date: 2000-10-25 Judge: A W NICHOLS III   
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, JACK LESTER 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2000-10-25 1 COMPLAINT FILED: SCHEME TO DEFRAUD 

2000-10-25 1 BY DOMINIC PISCITELLO 

2000-11-17 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $1504.00 

2000-12-07 3 BOND UNSECURED IN OPEN COURT ON 12/07/2000 

2000-12-07 3 PER JUDGE NICHOLS 

2000-12-08 4 ARREST REPORT - CHARGES 

2000-12-08 4 SCHEME TO DEFRAUD- BOND SET AT $1504.00 UNSECURED 

2000-12-08 5 APPEARANCE BOND - UNSECURED $ 1504.00 

2000-12-08 6 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS 

2000-12-13 7 INFORMATION (SCHEME TO DEFRAUD) 

2000-12-14 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01/03/2001) 

2000-12-14 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2000-12-20 10 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT RETURNED 

2000-12-21 11 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT AND WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY 

2000-12-21 11 FILED BY JOHN W. STEPHENSON 

2000-12-21 11 CASE SET FOR PRE TRIAL 02/01/2001 

2000-12-28 12 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 02/01/2001 

2001-01-02 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-01-2001) OUT OF JAIL 

2001-01-09 14 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT RETURNED 

2001-02-01 15 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY 

2001-02-01 15 JOHN STEPHENSON. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 2/16/2001 

2001-02-05 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-16-2001) OUT OF JAIL 

2001-02-09 17 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT RETURNED 

2001-02-16 18 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY 

2001-02-16 18 JOHN STEPHENSON, W/D FORMER PLEA AND PLEAD NOLO AS 

2001-02-16 18 CHARGED SCHEME TO DEFRAUD, ADVISED OF 5YRS AND OR 

2001-02-16 18 $5000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE SET FOR 

2001-02-16 18 SENTENCING 3/27/2001. RESTITUTION TO BE MADE- DEFT'S 

2001-02-16 18 CORRECT ADDRESS: P.O. BOX 502 LAKE COMO, FL. 32139 

2001-02-19 19 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-27-2001) OUT OF JAIL 

2001-03-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED 

2001-03-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON 

2001-03-27 21 SENTENCED AS FOLLOWS: COURT WITHHELD ADJUDICATION OF 

2001-03-27 21 GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST AND $320 

2001-03-27 21 RESTITUTION, SENTENCED TO 5 YEARS PROBATION, COST OF 

2001-03-27 21 SUPERVISION SET AT $5 PER MONTH, IF NO VIOLATIONS HAVE 

2001-03-27 21 OCCURED AND ALL COSTS ARE PAID THE PROBATION MAY 

2001-03-27 21 TERMINATE AFTER 2 YEARS 

2001-03-28 22 ORDER OF PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK 336 PG 298-301 

2002-01-14 23 AFFIDAVIT VIOLATION OF SUPERVISION-(SCHEME TO DEFRAUD) 

2002-01-14 24 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION ISSUED 

2002-01-14 24 BOND SET AT $NO BOND FIRM 

2002-01-15 25 REARREST REPORT - VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

2002-01-15 25 BOND SET AT NO BOND FIRM 

2002-01-15 26 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2002-01-15 27 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2002-01-16 28 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION RETURNED EXECUTED 

2002-01-18 29 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-31-2002) IN JAIL 

2002-01-31 30 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRES, P D APPOINTED 

2002-01-31 30 ARRAIGNED, ENTERED A PLEA OF NOLO TO VOP CONDS #1 & #2, 

2002-01-31 30 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE 

2002-01-31 30 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET ON 01/31/2002 

2002-01-31 31 SCORESHEET FILED 

2002-01-31 32 VOP SENTENCING MINUTES: DEF PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON 

2002-01-31 32 SENTENCED AS FOLLOWS: COURT ORDERED PROBATION REVOKED, 

2002-01-31 32 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY, SENTENCED TO 364 DAYS PCJ 

2002-01-31 32 WITH 19 DAYS CREDIT, ANY REMAINING FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS 

2002-01-31 32 CONVERTED TO A CIVIL LIEN 

2002-01-31 33 VOP JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT MIN CIR CT 

2002-01-31 33 BK 350 PG 483-498 

2002-02-11 34 ORDER OF REVOCATION OF PROBATION 

2002-02-11 34 ENT MIN CIR CT BK 350 PG 482 

2002-02-11 35 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE 

2002-02-12 36 RESTITUTION ORDER- $58.65 NAPA AUTO PARTS- ENT AS 

2002-02-12 36 CIVIL JUDGMENT_ REC OR BK. 884 PAGE 732-733 

2002-02-12 37 RESTITUTION ORDER_ $18.65 TO HENRY'S FISH CAMP- 

2002-02-12 37 ENT AS CIVIL JUDGMENT_ REC OR BK. 884 PG 730-731 

2002-02-12 38 RESTITUTION ORDER- $33.65 TO FRUITLAND ACE HARDWARE- 

2002-02-12 38 ENT AS CIVIL JUDGMENT_ REC OR BK. 884 PAGE 728-729 

2002-02-12 39 CHARGES/COSTS/FEES- $255.00 COURT COST- ENT AS CIVIL 

2002-02-12 39 JUDGMENT- REC OR BK. 884 PAGE 725 

2002-02-12 40 RESTITUTION ORDER- $71.15 TO BARKERS CHEVRON- ENT AS 

2002-02-12 40 CIVIL JUDGMENT_ REC OR BK. 884 PAGE 726-727 

2002-03-21 41 $3.85 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 


Details:

UCN: 542008MM004483XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-11-24 Judge: PETER T MILLER   
Defense Atty: 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, JACK LESTER 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2008-11-24 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO/ BRIDGES (ARREST 11-23-08) 

2008-11-24 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 08-05080 

2008-11-24 1 TRESPASS AFTER WARNING 

2008-11-24 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 11-24-08 

2008-11-24 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2008-11-24 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2008-11-24 2 $504.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2008-11-24 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2008-11-24 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2008-11-25 5 $504.00 A-1 24HR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS#2136126 11-24-08 

2008-12-17 6 INFORMATION (TRESPASS AFTER WARNING) 

2008-12-17 7 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01/20/2009) 

2009-01-20 8 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES IN COURT WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL 

2009-01-20 8 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO TRESPASS AFTER 

2009-01-20 8 WARNING - DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED - 

2009-01-20 8 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY 

2009-01-20 8 2 DAYS PCJ WITH 2 DAYS CREDIT 

2009-01-20 8 $283.00 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED 

2009-01-20 8 $ 50.00 COST OF PROSECUTION SUSPENDED 

2009-01-20 9 WAIVER OF COUNSEL 

2009-01-20 10 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO 

2009-01-20 10 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT 

2009-01-26 11 COMMITMENT ISSUED 

2009-01-28 12 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE CT I 


Details:

UCN: 541991MM002343XXAXMX
File Date: 1991-05-19 Judge: PETER T MILLER   
Defense Atty: LUKASHOW, TOM 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, JACK LESTER 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
1991-05-19 1 ARREST REPORT: WILLIAM T GRUBBS 

1991-05-19 2 CITATION NO: #11726-JA 

1991-05-20 3 DEFT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING, ADJ INS P D APPT 

1991-05-20 3 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND. $504.00 UNSECURED BOND SET 

1991-05-21 4 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

1991-05-21 5 APPLICATION AND ORDER FOR APPOINTMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENDER 

1991-05-21 6 APPEARANCE BOND (UNSECURED) 

1991-05-24 7 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (6-11-91) 

1991-06-11 8 DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY FRANK GEORGE, ASST P D 

1991-06-11 8 ARR ENT PLEA OF GUILTY TO DUI - LESS THAN .20 

1991-06-11 8 DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED, ADJUDGED GUILTY 

1991-06-11 8 PROB HRDS 1 YEAR 

1991-06-11 8 $556.50 FINE 

1991-06-11 8 D L REVOKED 6 MONTHS 

1991-06-11 8 50 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE 

1991-06-11 8 DUI SCHOOL 

1991-06-11 9 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NO CONTEST TO CRIMINAL CHARGE IN 

1991-06-11 9 COUNTY COURT 

1991-06-11 10 ORDER OF PROBATION 

1991-09-06 11 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

1991-09-09 12 VOP SUMMONS ISSUED BY CERTIFIED MAIL (10-8-91) 

1991-09-17 13 VOP SUMMONS RETURNED EXECUTED 

1991-10-08 14 DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY FRANK GEORGE ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY 

1991-10-08 14 SET FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING ON 11-6-91 

1991-10-08 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (11-6-91) 

1991-10-08 16 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY 

1991-11-06 17 DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY FRANK GEORGE, ASST P D 

1991-11-06 17 W-DREW FORMER PLEA, ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO VOP 

1991-11-06 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, 

1991-11-06 17 PROBATION MODIFIED AND EXTENDED 

1991-11-06 17 50 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE IN LIEU OF 1/2 OF FINE 

1991-11-06 18 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NO CONTEST TO CRIMINAL CHARGE IN 

1991-11-06 18 COUNTY COURT 

1991-11-20 19 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION 

1991-11-20 19 (PROB REINSTATED 7 MONTHS AND 4 DAYS OR FROM 11-6-91 

1991-11-20 19 TO 6-10-92) 

1992-01-13 20 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

1992-01-23 21 VOP SUMMONS ISSUED BY CERTIFIED MAIL (2-11-92) 

1992-02-11 22 DEFT NOT PRESENT FOR VIOLATION ARRAIGNMENT 

1992-02-11 22 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND $1004.00 

1992-03-09 23 VOP SUMMONS RETURNED UNEXECUTED 

1992-07-06 24 RE ARREST: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

1992-07-07 25 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

1992-07-07 26 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED 

1992-07-07 27 $1004.00 JACK'S BOND POSTED #264732 (7-6-92) 

1992-07-08 28 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (7-28-92) 

1992-07-28 29 DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY TOM LUKASHOW, ASST PD, ARR ENT PLEA NOT 

1992-07-28 29 GUILTY CASE SET FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING ON 09/14/92 

1992-07-28 30 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (9/14/92) 

1992-07-30 31 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (9/14/92) 

1992-09-14 32 VOP HRG MINUTES: 

1992-09-14 32 DEFT PRES, W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE 

1992-09-14 32 TO VOP - PLEA ACCEPTED - PROBATION REINSTATED 90 DAYS 

1992-09-14 33 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NO CONTEST TO CRIMINAL CHARGE IN 

1992-09-14 33 COUNTY COURT 

1992-09-14 34 BONDSMAN DISCHARGED 

1992-09-24 35 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION 

1992-09-24 35 (PROB REINSTATED 9-14-92 TO 12-13-92) 

1992-12-15 36 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION 

1992-12-15 36 (EXTENDED 12/14/92 TO 3/13/93) 

1993-02-10 37 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION 

1993-02-10 37 (PROB PLACED ON HOLD DUE TO BACK INJURY UNTIL 3/13/94) 

1994-02-10 38 AMENDED ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION 

1994-02-10 38 NUNC PRO TUNC TO 11/06/91 - REINSTATED 11/06/91 

1994-02-10 38 TO 6/10/92. FINE REDUCED TO $278.25 AND DEFT SHALL 

1994-02-10 38 COMPLETE 50 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE IN LIEU OF REDUCTION 

1994-03-03 39 $278.25 FINE PAID 

1994-03-04 40 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION 


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« Reply #1628 on: February 26, 2009, 12:29:39 AM »

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=132095&catid=295

Detectives have talked to the child. Relatives on both sides say he told police he saw a man in a ski mask come in their trailer and leave with his big sister.

Just thought we'd throw a ski mask in to the all black outfit.

 

What they gonna add tomorrow, that he also saw a black 9mm Beretta (gun) ?? 

And the 4 yr old supposedly saw what he did in the dark bedroom. 

I just heard that the LE is saying that JR,s story is not believable, they arent putting much stock in it!
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« Reply #1629 on: February 26, 2009, 12:29:56 AM »

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=132095&catid=295

Detectives have talked to the child. Relatives on both sides say he told police he saw a man in a ski mask come in their trailer and leave with his big sister.

Just thought we'd throw a ski mask in to the all black outfit.

 

What they gonna add tomorrow, that he also saw a black 9mm Beretta (gun) ?? 

And the 4 yr old supposedly saw what he did in the dark bedroom. 


i wish we knew if the tv in the bedroom was on while they slept, haleighs bed was near it...could have provided just enough light.

but they wont tell us anything!
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« Reply #1630 on: February 26, 2009, 12:31:35 AM »


I know we've been over this, and don't want to rile anyone up; but the whole door wide open thing just screams staged to me and I can't seem to get past it.

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ME TOO~after all wouldn't a perp wan't his crime to go unnoticed for as long as possible....easier to get more distance from crime scene to wherever????? That never made since to me.

i agree, that and the light on are def hinky. only way it would make any sense at all was if the intruder heard something/someone and booked out asap.

True that y'all, but the propping bugs me too; And does the propping scream someone wantin to haul "A" outta there?

Maybe so....

It just seems so extraneous. And contrived. to me...

And the whole blanket story bugs me greatly. Is she accounting for a missing blanket? Or a blanket that is too clean? Or does she want us to infer that someone was peeping now that the window was uncovered?

*sigh*

The other WTH thing is the shirt. Was it on TOP of the dirty clothes pile? Was it buried in underneath there? How likely is it that she remembered correctly what Haleigh was wearing? Some kids have special jammies and won't sleep in anything else and some even have a backup second same set. If that's the case it would be easy to know; But was that pink shirt Misty described a day play shirt or a nighty jammie shirt?

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« Reply #1631 on: February 26, 2009, 12:31:42 AM »

Dang, if this is Ron's Dad, this family has built the Jailhouse there in Satsuma with all these fines!
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« Reply #1632 on: February 26, 2009, 12:34:09 AM »

I still  say her dissapearance has something to do with the cousin, there is some kind of connection between the two and I cant figure it out yet, but I just feel like he did something!

supposedly he was cleared though right?
well thats what LE said but, how do we know what he could have cookied up in the name of revenge, He didnt neccessarily have to be the one there, he could have sent someone else, I just know he and mistie is involved someway!
also, there was a train that came by about the same time that the Le drove up to the Cummings house, if someone jumped on that train and then jumped off again 20 miles down the road, unless they left any clues how would anybody know?   I myself as a child me and my brothers use to do this because we knew where this train track went and we would crawl into the empty box-car and ride for about 6 miles and then jump off and go to my aunts house and it was no big deal, so I know it can be done!


HH, I totally agree.  We didn't live around trains, but I (and some of my country friends) might have hopped a slow moving train a time or two if one'd come 'round. 

I am reading backwards, but I mentioned the train/water issue early on when Haleigh vanished...if I were LE, I'd be huntin' at every stop/or when it slowed between Satsuma and the end of the world.  I hope LE share our concerns/of like mind re. the train tracks and waterways thereabouts. 

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« Reply #1633 on: February 26, 2009, 12:34:58 AM »

Dang, if this is Ron's Dad, this family has built the Jailhouse there in Satsuma with all these fines!


BWAH!! Gotta generate that revenue . . .


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« Reply #1634 on: February 26, 2009, 12:37:23 AM »

does anyone know yardwise, just how close the nearest body of water is? maybe a boat could have been used?

I sound like a moron now but it was 400 feet or 400 yards I want to say yards. Dangit, I cant keep up with all the links. So unless I find a reliable source don't listen to me, heh.



At the outset of Miss Haleigh's disappearance I questioned the tracking dogs going to the railroad tracks and water (St John's River/tributaries/canals?).  Cummings family resided very, very close to both.

I was listening to a broadcast one eve and the reporter was drowned out by train warning, so that implies it moves slowly through intersections thereabouts.

Dispatcher/deps are recorded saying early on that whomever should contact CSX re. their schedule through that area.

As re. tracking dogs, I would have taken them to the other side of the river that night to see if scent was picked up on the other side, but I never heard that LE/K9s headed over to the other side at that juncture.  Maybe they did head over there, but if they didn't it was a lost opp imho.   

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As for the differing reports of 1. the dogs ending at the water, and 2. the dogs ending at the tracks, am thinking it's the same thing.  Have heard that the train goes out over the water on a train bridge going to the island or whatever on the other side.  Where one of the RSO's live, by the way.  And yeah, heard something about how slow the train has to go in one part in that area near the Cummings because it makes a tight curve or something like that. 
 
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« Reply #1635 on: February 26, 2009, 12:37:57 AM »

Dang, if this is Ron's Dad, this family has built the Jailhouse there in Satsuma with all these fines!

According to the players Jack Lester Cummings is Ronald's dad........there were more charges, but some almost no info and some were for minor infractions, so I didn't c/p those

Any brothers to Crystal or Ron??
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« Reply #1636 on: February 26, 2009, 12:41:55 AM »

Ya know, in the earliest reports we heard about "a johnny boat that LE took".  I've never heard about that since.  Some thought that comment was about LE's own johnny boat that they "took" (used) to search the water.  Others think that comment was that LE "took" (seized) a johnny boat belonging to Ron.  Anyone hear about this? 
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« Reply #1637 on: February 26, 2009, 12:44:49 AM »

Actually real Peddies thump and dump, not to be so graphic, but that is the whole reason for the search in a so many mile radius.  Usually you never find the bodies or atleast not a link to the SO.  I think we get lucky when we catch them: Adam Walsh, Danielle VanDam, Dylan Groen, the list goes on.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent Al Danna, who for 25 years has investigated crimes against children, said 44 percent of children abducted by strangers are killed within the first hour. The statistic rises to 74 percent within three hours and 91 percent are killed within 24 hours of being abducted.

Within a week of a child going missing, 99 percent have been killed by the abductor, Danna said.

"Sometimes it's a matter of the abductor knowing they will victimize and kill a child right from the start, or they'll let them go," Danna said. "Or it's a case where the child does something that panics the abductor, or the publicity of the child going missing gets too great, and the abductor kills them to eliminate the witness. But normally it's planned and not a spur-of-the-moment outcome. Abductors rarely hold onto children for years."

So yeah a light left on and a door left open does work for me with a SO abduction.
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« Reply #1638 on: February 26, 2009, 12:44:57 AM »

Just another thing about Haleigh and water...I don't know about a great fear of water here.

In all of the pics of Haleigh in/near water, at the river, at a pool, she looks happy to me, no sign of any fear or reluctance. 
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« Reply #1639 on: February 26, 2009, 12:45:21 AM »

Ya know, in the earliest reports we heard about "a johnny boat that LE took".  I've never heard about that since.  Some thought that comment was about LE's own johnny boat that they "took" (used) to search the water.  Others think that comment was that LE "took" (seized) a johnny boat belonging to Ron.  Anyone hear about this? 


I don't remember hearing anything about a johnny boat.  In fact, I don't know what a johnny boat is but I'll google and find out 
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