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« Reply #480 on: February 22, 2009, 01:39:56 PM »

http://208.75.175.18/ovationweb/courtcase.aspx?casetype=Criminal&case=06000240CFMA

Crystals - Chad record,  hmmmmm

These should be brought forward next to Ron's right?  These are more current, aye?
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« Reply #481 on: February 22, 2009, 01:41:26 PM »

I have been reading back and I can not think of one house that was held as a crime scene for so long either. Hell we KNOW something happened at or around the Ants and they had their house back in two days. As someone here said maybe something about the plumbing... the washing machine might be suspect but that is just one appliance. I was thinking Meth but there are no men in space suits going in and I doubt they would have allowed Misty to go back in there. I really am stumped here as to their innocence. I wonder what Tim Miller thinks about all this?

They must have recovered 'something' the very day they were there to keep it a crime scene.  I am thinking that they escorted her back in for some reason.  Wow....Tim is probably so happy that he is outtttta there, but sad that they did not find Haleigh.
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« Reply #482 on: February 22, 2009, 01:42:04 PM »

False allegations from the past and Cocaine ....hmmmm
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« Reply #483 on: February 22, 2009, 01:44:25 PM »

I am glad to see I am not the only one who thinks Geraldo is B-rated show at best. Ever notice that he never gets clips in the right place and sound is always off. His technical crew stinks. Probably a family member. LE should really get on HIS case if he comes back.

About the spanking thing. In trying to be to up-front can sink your ship, that is for sure. You can bet Ron has been under the microscope since winning custody. Social services follows up and makes home visits and make reports. At least in NY they do. I am sure he took parent classes.

 I have to tell you this. I spanked!! At about 10 my son told me to F myself. Without ANY thought at all I back-handed him across the lips hard. We do not speak that way and it threw me. I still feel guilty BUT....he has never spoke to me like that again. He is 27.
Wonder what Geraldo would say about that?

At the end and no rise from Ron, He pushes past Geraldo and gets to the camera and begins to beg for his child. This is very telling to me and I believe he does not know where she is and wants her home desperately.    Sorry Geraldo..He didn't snap and we all know that's what you wanted.


Hi Scarrlett     I so agree with your post!! I believe that RC's first priority is to get his daughter back home. Regardless of whether he has a temper or not, it seems he has his priorities straight. He didnt take on Whoraldo, but instead went to the camera for one more chance to beg for his child to be brought home. Although I believe he would have LIKED to let Whoraldo have it, he chose not too which was a very wise decision on his part. He used that time for something much more positive and productive. Just because he speaks differently and is perhaps uneducated to some extent doesnt necessarily mean that he doesnt have good sense and reasoning.

I too was strong on discipline when my children were younger and at home. I was a single mother much of that time, so I had to maintain respect in our home. When my son was 13 he and I had a situation too. I had made biscuits and he decided he didnt want his younger sister to have any. I went to the kitchen and told him to let her have hers, and he took a stand and put his fists up at me. (he was quite a tall and strong, muscled up boy at the time, and I think that may have gone to his head LOL).  I picked up a metal kitchen stool and told him to bring it on. I also told him that I would pick him up and take him to the hospital too, but that if he felt big enough to hit his mother, he needed to understand that she would hit back. It ended right there. He backed off and went to sit outside, and came in later to apologize which gave us all a chance to sit down and talk it through. It was the one and only time he ever challenged me until he graduated and moved out on his own, and he never again tried anything close to that with his sister either. I realize that discipline is abused in some families and that breaks my heart, but there are times even in good families when strong discipline is absolutely necessary IMO.
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« Reply #484 on: February 22, 2009, 01:47:55 PM »

Crystal's was for FALSE REPORT TO LAW AUTHORITY.
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So, the next time you make a report, true or no, you have no creds.
Drugs seem to be a theme here with Ronald, Crystal, Amber and Misty. And cousins. 
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« Reply #485 on: February 22, 2009, 01:49:17 PM »

http://208.75.175.18/ovationweb/courtcase.aspx?casetype=Criminal&case=07000652MMMA

Maybe this is why Crystal does not have the kids,  hmmmmm

i doubt it~dates are way off............but, let me say one more thing about me ex and his prior wife, when she went back to court to try and modify the custody arrangements, she was fined $17,000. Her request for modification was that he had been indicted by a grand jury in Illinois and was facing a jury trial and possible prison time........hmm, amazing the judge fined her and left custody with my ex (aka Satan).
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« Reply #486 on: February 22, 2009, 01:56:37 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 
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« Reply #487 on: February 22, 2009, 02:10:27 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 

Thanks for this post......it is indeed far different to smack a teenageer than a kindergartener, not that I'm stating as fact that he did hit her, but the DCF statement makes me wonder if they had to get involved to explain to him how he can/cannot disciple his children. Plus, I do see him as an abuser........and if you will hit your gf/wife you will hit your kids.
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« Reply #488 on: February 22, 2009, 02:20:45 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 

Thanks for this post......it is indeed far different to smack a teenageer than a kindergartener, not that I'm stating as fact that he did hit her, but the DCF statement makes me wonder if they had to get involved to explain to him how he can/cannot disciple his children. Plus, I do see him as an abuser........and if you will hit your gf/wife you will hit your kids.
I sure see that look in his eyes of an abuser, I have to say he scared me last night on Geraldo, even my hubby who doesn't pay much attention to these cases, made a comment of how mean he looked. We both thought he was going to punch Geraldo.
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« Reply #489 on: February 22, 2009, 02:21:45 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 

Thanks for this post......it is indeed far different to smack a teenageer than a kindergartener, not that I'm stating as fact that he did hit her, but the DCF statement makes me wonder if they had to get involved to explain to him how he can/cannot disciple his children. Plus, I do see him as an abuser........and if you will hit your gf/wife you will hit your kids.

Somebody said that it's required in Florida, to take a parenting class in cases of divorce and custody.
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« Reply #490 on: February 22, 2009, 02:23:22 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 

Thanks for this post......it is indeed far different to smack a teenageer than a kindergartener, not that I'm stating as fact that he did hit her, but the DCF statement makes me wonder if they had to get involved to explain to him how he can/cannot disciple his children. Plus, I do see him as an abuser........and if you will hit your gf/wife you will hit your kids.
I sure see that look in his eyes of an abuser, I have to say he scared me last night on Geraldo, even my hubby who doesn't pay much attention to these cases, made a comment of how mean he looked. We both thought he was going to punch Geraldo.

He sure did~I think if it wasn't for his family jumping in, he very well might have......aslo, I think his mother is an enabler and can see none of his actions as irresponsible nor criminal
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« Reply #491 on: February 22, 2009, 02:24:52 PM »

Smacking a 13 yr old who is lipping off is not the same as smacking a 39 pound little girl.
Haleigh is small for her age I think. My two yr. old GD is 29 pounds. She does not get spanked. Her hand gets tapped and she is talked to and sometimes she gets a time out.
It works and she understands.
The ten yr old has never been spanked. 

Thanks for this post......it is indeed far different to smack a teenageer than a kindergartener, not that I'm stating as fact that he did hit her, but the DCF statement makes me wonder if they had to get involved to explain to him how he can/cannot disciple his children. Plus, I do see him as an abuser........and if you will hit your gf/wife you will hit your kids.

Somebody said that it's required in Florida, to take a parenting class in cases of divorce and custody.

yes it is~but if you read all the custody transcripts he admits he hasn't taken his and bio mom had her certificate of completion..........I guess this was just one more time he's skirted the law.
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« Reply #492 on: February 22, 2009, 02:26:27 PM »

I thought Ron and Crystal were never married? Do I have that wrong?
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« Reply #493 on: February 22, 2009, 02:30:08 PM »

I thought Ron and Crystal were never married? Do I have that wrong?

no, you are correct..............
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« Reply #494 on: February 22, 2009, 02:41:02 PM »

They were never married. She had the kids and he had visitation. He kept them after one of the visits. She tried ( very weakly IMO ) to get them back and didn't. That's why these custody papers are on line for us to look at. lol 
Now that the sh%t has hit the fan, Crystal and her family are bringing forward their past issues with him having custody. Pot calling kettle black as far as I am concerned.
She seemed very uninvolved with what was going on with Haleigh recently. Didn't seem to know too much. Why did the kid miss school ? I don't know. meantime, the GM said the kid had been in the hosptial alot. Did she go to school on the Monday. I don't know seemd to be the favorite anwser on NG.   
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« Reply #495 on: February 22, 2009, 02:42:32 PM »

I hope they ban Geraldo mout of the state of Florida, He got just what he came to Satsuma for, trouble....Then he went home and collected his money and never gave it another thought while now everything in Satsuma is up in arms!   I hate Geraldo......He needs to stick to reporting the weather, maybe another wave will get him!
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I don't know, I was at work....I don't know, I was sleeping........Where is Haleigh???????
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« Reply #496 on: February 22, 2009, 02:50:41 PM »

Hi Monks.  Hope everyone is having a good weekend. 

I, too, saw Geraldo last night and I was appalled.  Geraldo was acting like a big bully.  I didn't understand his being all lovey-dovey with Crystal and so combative with Ronald.  IMO both their credibility is in question.  Except for one thing.  It is unusual for a judge to award custody of minor children to a father when a mother is available and willing.  So please keep in mind that Crystal is no angel, although that is the impression Geraldo tried to convey.

Drugs have have permeated every strata of our society.  From people like Ronald and Crystal to multi-millionnaire movie stars.  Until this country is willing to tackle this problem head on it will only get worse.  Our border with Mexico is so open that millions of dollars of drugs are brought in every day.  If a couple of border guards try to prevent it, they are prosecuted and jailed.  No wonder those whose duty it is to guard the border hesitate to do their job.

I don't keep up with sports so I don't recall the name of the multi-gold medal swimming star, but i'm speaking of the one who was pictured on the front of a London tabloid smoking marijuana.  He was not prosecuted and many people not only wondered, but wondered aloud what he had done that was so wrong, and that included Geraldo Rivera.  Every person who uses cocaine or meth started small.  That doesn't mean that every pothead will use harder drugs, only that those who do started that way and most of the hugh grade marijuana comes across the Mexican border. Every person who uses illegal drugs is contributing to that cross border drug trade. And Geraldo Rivera is one who is opposed to stepping up protection of our borders.

And these young girls who have babies and live with men at 16 and 17.  Where are their parents?  Or more likely, where is their mother since the father is missing in most cases?  The posters on this forum who say they raised children alone and apparently did a fine job at it are to be commended and I in no way wish to cast aspersions on you.  But for every one of you who raised decent children, there are probably 10,000 who did not. Sadly, you are the exception.

Ronald Cummings is somewhat different from the norm in that he did not abandon his two children.  He fought for custody of them.  I can think of no other case of which I am aware where this happened, although I admit my knowledge of this is limited.  I know of the problem only by what I read and see.  Apparently he has worked at the job he has for several years and  that, too, is unusual in that socioeconomic level of society.  Many of the young men in his position work long enough to get workers' compensation and then get another job when it expires.  The cycle repeats. And they continue to impregnate young girls and abandon them.

I don't know what happened to Hayleigh but it seemed to me when I saw Ronald's attitude last night, that he truly loves the little girl.  I thought that Geraldo was out of line in his manner of asking questions of Ronald, but not of Crystal.  Of course, Geraldo is a  well-established womanizer who trades his wife in for a newer model quite often.  I remember how he swore his devotion to C.C. a few years ago, but then he met the present one and good-bye C.C.  He only differs from the people in that trailer court by the amount of money he has made, better and more expensive clothing, better grammar,  and his name recognition.

While watching Geraldo Rivera last night, I wondered where he was when the hard questions needed to be asked of Cindy and George Anthony?  Oh yes, we know, he was on his yacht entertaining Jose Baez. IMO there is indisputable  evidence to charge the Anthonys with several crimes, yet Rivera praises that fool George Anthony for going to Samsuta to "Support" Ronald.  Again, George and Cindy are better-looking people who use better grammar, but they have produced a child-murdering daughter, which Rivera overlooks in his fawning over them and their attorney. 

I am not willing to condemn anyone on the basis of a "Gut feeling" or a hit on my "Hinky meter."  Nor am I willing to condemn anyone on the basis of Geraldo Rivera's say-so.  I only pray that Hayleigh will return to her family safe and sound and that the person responsible for her abduction be prosecuted.  As of now, I cannot accuse anyone.

When Mark Lunsford's daughter Jessica was taken and murdered, I saw a side of myself I did not like very much.  I suspected that, because of Mark's appearance and manner of speaking he must have had a hand in it.  We saw that he was perfectly innocent and his heart was broken.  I hope that I will never, ever repeat that.
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« Reply #497 on: February 22, 2009, 02:50:43 PM »

Thanks, I didn't think they were ever married.
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« Reply #498 on: February 22, 2009, 02:53:19 PM »

Babybear totally agree with you on the drug problem, and it was Michael Phelps the Olympic swimmer that was photographed with the bong.
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« Reply #499 on: February 22, 2009, 03:00:45 PM »

one more thing about what Geraldo has done, at a time like this when every available police officer is needed to help find Haleigh, he just gave them extra work to do, did he think about that.   NO ONLY MONEY!!!!!!STAY HOME GERALDO!!!!!!
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I don't know, I was at work....I don't know, I was sleeping........Where is Haleigh???????
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