Haleigh Cummings #2 2/20/09 - 2/26/09

[flamom]

Great post BabyBear

[higherhopes]

I will be sending Geraldo at Large a very Large Letter tomorrow to discuss his actions and total disregards for this little girl being missing in exchange for higher show ratings..........

[sandy leiva]

Hiya Monkeys! The State of Florida requires all divorcing couples with children to complete a parenting class prior to having their divorce finalized

not true   not all couples, my brother and his x wife 3 yrs divorced with lil children and a teenager never had to go to parenting classes, nor councelling.

[no rose colored glasses]

I will be sending Geraldo at Large a very Large Letter tomorrow to discuss his actions and total disregards for this little girl being missing in exchange for higher show ratings..........

Tell him to just cover hurricanes and do us all a favor.

[higherhopes]

I will be sending Geraldo at Large a very Large Letter tomorrow to discuss his actions and total disregards for this little girl being missing in exchange for higher show ratings..........

Tell him to just cover hurricanes and do us all a favor.

Amen, that is were he belongs, that way nobody is in danger but him!

[flamom]

Hiya Monkeys! The State of Florida requires all divorcing couples with children to complete a parenting class prior to having their divorce finalized

not true   not all couples, my brother and his x wife 3 yrs divorced with lil children and a teenager never had to go to parenting classes, nor councelling.

sandy, how long ago? we HAD to go, no choice, and we were amicable

http://www.laskylawfirm.com/PracticeAreas/Parenting-Classes-Divorce.asp
If you are a parent seeking a dissolution of marriage in Florida, you will have to participate in one of the various parenting classes offered throughout the state. Though the formats vary from county to county, each circuit has some type of program to help assist and educate parents with the needs of their children as the family navigates through the divorce process.

Children First in Divorce
Here in Jacksonville, Florida, parents are required to complete the Children First in Divorce Program. It is a program offered via Hope Haven Children's Clinic. Please note that both spouses must complete the class before the court will grant a divorce.

[fatcatlurker]

New Topic.  Who thinks Misty is getting lawyered up?

[Kat_Gram]

There have been some cases where the wrong ppl were considered poi's by us and the media... Chandra Levy .. Lunsford.. Ed Smart .. and I do remember the media's hincky meter going off in the Groene case on the Dad and someone Brenda Groene knew.
BTW Mr. Groene is dying from cancer. 

[no rose colored glasses]

New Topic.  Who thinks Misty is getting lawyered up?

I do, I do, can't believe it hasn't happened sooner, also Ron can't believe he doesn't have a lawyer.

[no rose colored glasses]

There have been some cases where the wrong ppl were considered poi's by us and the media... Chandra Levy .. Lunsford.. Ed Smart .. and I do remember the media's hincky meter going off in the Groene case on the Dad and someone Brenda Groene knew.
BTW Mr. Groene is dying from cancer. 

Yes I heard that, how sad.

[flamom]

There have been some cases where the wrong ppl were considered poi's by us and the media... Chandra Levy .. Lunsford.. Ed Smart .. and I do remember the media's hincky meter going off in the Groene case on the Dad and someone Brenda Groene knew.
BTW Mr. Groene is dying from cancer. 

Shasta's dad? 

[fatcatlurker]

New Topic.  Who thinks Misty is getting lawyered up?

I do, I do, can't believe it hasn't happened sooner, also Ron can't believe he doesn't have a lawyer.

Ron seems to me like he is already talking to someone.  JMO by the way he is talking and handling the media opportunities.  Also I would find it hard to believe w/his mother working in the sheriffs office that he would not be seeking some sort of counseling even if it is over the phone.

[fatcatlurker]

I thought for sure Ed Smart and John Ramsey were both guilty.

[flamom]

I may be wrong, but unless some lawyer offers his services to Misty, IMO she seems to be too unknowing to lawyer up.
I tried to put that as charitably as I could... 

[cookie]

There have been some cases where the wrong ppl were considered poi's by us and the media... Chandra Levy .. Lunsford.. Ed Smart .. and I do remember the media's hincky meter going off in the Groene case on the Dad and someone Brenda Groene knew.
BTW Mr. Groene is dying from cancer. 

Yes I heard that, how sad.

Mr. Groene, is that Shasta;s father?? Have not heard that he is dying...how very sad...

back to Geraldo and Ron...I was appalled in the way that he ambushed Ron really! I thought that it was cruel under the circumstances where there is a child missing...totally out of line in my opinion.'
In regards to Crystal...She said something along the line of that she had to get out of the relationship with Ron because he was abusive to her and for her own good she had to stay away...Ok....but you leave your 2 small children with someone that you are afraid of...that's it, save yourself but leave your defenseless children with your abuser...makes total sense to me... While I am at it, what about these grand parents? if they thought that Haleigh was being abused by the father, why didn't they step in to get custody or at least take the children at night to ease his load of working and stress of raising his children without a mother there? If anyone was abusing my grand kids, I would be right there in their face....And another thing, if my children were taken from me, I would stay in the same area as they were so that I could see them more often than every two weeks...I would be able to attend their school functions and perhaps Ron would have even let her have the kids more, especially during the evening hours that he was working and then he would not have to depend on a 17 yr old girl to help him care for his kids...This mother is not innocent in any of this...she could have taken more of an interest in her children's welfare in my opinion...Instead, she goes to another town with another man and creates another baby! this whole situation really pisses me off....poor babies...I wonder what will happen now with the children? will they be taken away? I think that Ron loves his kids. does anyone know if he has anything to do with Jordan, his child with Amber I think?
Pray that Haleigh is found alive and returned to her family...

[flamom]

I thought for sure Ed Smart and John Ramsey were both guilty.

Ditto.. me too fatcat 

[islandmonkey]

I thought for sure Ed Smart and John Ramsey were both guilty.

Out of all of those listed earlier, Gary Condit was the only one I thought was guilty.....

[islandmonkey]

I have a question about RC's rap sheet........WTH is Maintaing a Drug Vehicle?? I have never heard of that charge until now---------anyone else know

[flamom]

Maybe using his car to deliver or store his drugs? Here is Fla they have the option to seize your vehicle

[rana]

The anger coming from Ron to Geraldo was scary, if there wouldn't have been an audience and cameras, Ron looks like he would have hauled azz and knocked Geraldo to the ground, and who knows what else.

I do agree with that but Im not sure its not warranted - both families are slinging alot of dirt but Im not finding Crystal credible at all either

I don't believe any of them, and unfortunately the children are the ones that have to suffer.

Yup, that is exactly what I said earlier...children are the victims of selfish idiot adults

Dottie, I see dishonesty in Crystal, her fear is that she knows shes lying but she is also aware of Ron's temper so why she would push this at this time is beyond anyone with logic.    One has to ask why Crystal isnt being questioned  by LE if her accusations have merit or paperwork leads them to investigate further

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I have talked to and seen battered and abused women and it's very common for their body language and eye contact to be just like Crystals.  They are afraid to speak for fear of retribution, they have shame and guilt.  Why would she push this at this time?  Because her child is missing and if she has any knowledge that something could have happened to Hayleigh at her fathers hand she has every right to speak her mind.  She was honest about the cocaine use....she said they were both using...I think she deserves credit for that, she could have just said he was using.  His anger has bothered me from the start.  I don't think you have to stretch the imagination too far to believe that he abused her.

This is a very accurate description of Crystal, Dottie, IMO. Also, of course, Ron wants the focus off of him. Additionally, looking someone defiantly and angrily in the eye is an act of aggression, not "honesty."

His last sentence gave me the chills: "I'm always gonna believe she's alive, until they find her." It goes back to his statement on "day one" (TM Cindy Anthony) "I'd give my life to have my child's life back."