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Author Topic: Haleigh Cummings #2 2/20/09 - 2/26/09  (Read 214901 times)
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« Reply #820 on: February 23, 2009, 06:22:03 PM »

About Crystal and Geraldo and the fireworks the other night, could it be that  LE gave her permission to spill the beans? I mean it seems likely that everything that she said to Geraldo would have been things that she would have likely already shared with LE. There wouldn't be a reason for her not to tell LE of her concerns right?

Also, I wonder if after the recent additional 4-5 hr questioning of Misty the other day, if LE urged Crystal to talk to Geraldo about these incidents in order to put pressure of some sort of Ron; and Geraldo was just a player in the process.

I have a question about the domestic viiolence injunction violation of Ron's. I'm not familiar with this, so maybe someone who is will answer this. When a domestic violence injunction is issued, does that mean that there is proven domestic violence? Or can these restraining orders (is that the same as "injunction?") be issued on allegations alone?


you know there is a background video of this, by a local reporter in Palatka, and it shows alot of family woeing going on by Geraldo, Everyone has nice big fresh cups of coffee and Geraldo pointedly asks Crystal at one point if she is ok or cold and if she would like to sit in his limo to get warmed up.....Speculate away.  The local reporter is spotted and outed by Geraldo, anyway it is interesting but beware the reporter added alot of snarky jungle sounds to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ieSp87KbY0

it's from the site www.visitpalatka.com
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« Reply #821 on: February 23, 2009, 06:26:53 PM »

Ok, this is in the gossip category. Source : Fox Orlando blog, the Caylee case.
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The day of the " missing " , Crystal was found in contempt of court.
Back child support plus health insurance premiums. 
According to the poster who called Ms. Neves, the total was now 17,000.00. That seems rather high given the length of time the kids were in Ron's care.
We have drug offenses, a custody issue, a money issue, cousins who are molesters, So's quite close, cousins who are criminals, allegations of physical abuse against the child.
And in steps Geraldo.
  

Didn't the costody doc say about 300 something per month for child support?  If that's the case by my math she has never paid him a dime.
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« Reply #822 on: February 23, 2009, 06:29:44 PM »

Maybe the paper that Ron handed over to LE was a list of who has been saying bad things about him.
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« Reply #823 on: February 23, 2009, 06:35:35 PM »

From IM's link on the various charges, in particular the domestic violence injunction violation, it was in 2005 Sarasota County. Do we know to whom it pertains? I mean, I didn't see that it said that it was related to Crystal per se.

Has anyone here found any evidence of Crystal being in Sarasota at that time? Sarasota is not very close to and Baker or Putnum County. Or maybe I'm confused. I'm just wondering if that injunction violation pertains to Crystal or if it's an entirely separate issue with someone else seeking a restraining order.
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« Reply #824 on: February 23, 2009, 06:36:33 PM »

I think there must some inflating of the amount, if true. I did hear that there has been a contempt order, but for who. Usually these Fox Bloggers were pretty good sometimes.
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Where I live, you just have to cause fear at a minimum to have a restraining order against you. However, we have zero tolerance laws. Something as simple as a separation where one spouse comes over uninvited and unwanted can cause the other to fear and get one of these. Verbal threats over the telephone and a person could get one too. 
They can be issued thru Family Court or thru regular court.   
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« Reply #825 on: February 23, 2009, 06:40:11 PM »

My understanding of the 911 call and what happened the first night :
Misty finds Haleigh gone at somewhere around 3 am.
No call is made to 911 until Ron gets home from work.
He works 16 miles away and worked until 3 am.
Do we know if she called him while he was in the route home ?
I understood that the first he heard of this was when he got home and she told him.
So, there is a small window of time opportunity, from 3:15 to whenever the first call was, about 3:40 when they were both home.
Now, I am going to look to find some facts as I am going by memory.
 

Misty actually says it was 3, I saw a 3 on the clock and did not notice or remember the minutes, so it could of been 3:20 for all we know.

I'm sorry in the police report she does say 3am, in the interview must be where she changed it to the 3, i just saw a 3 on the clock and didn't notice or remember the numbers.  My fault.

You're right about her changing it to "I just remember seeing the 3", from "3am or a few minutes before", just another inconsistency I'm going to need a spreadsheet before long.........
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« Reply #826 on: February 23, 2009, 06:43:12 PM »

I think there must some inflating of the amount, if true. I did hear that there has been a contempt order, but for who. Usually these Fox Bloggers were pretty good sometimes.
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Where I live, you just have to cause fear at a minimum to have a restraining order against you. However, we have zero tolerance laws. Something as simple as a separation where one spouse comes over uninvited and unwanted can cause the other to fear and get one of these. Verbal threats over the telephone and a person could get one too. 
They can be issued thru Family Court or thru regular court.   
Yes, that does make sense. I don't want to ask you your location. I wonder what the deal is in Florida?
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« Reply #827 on: February 23, 2009, 06:50:55 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.
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« Reply #828 on: February 23, 2009, 06:55:15 PM »

Does anyone know the protocol for DCF to visit a residence? Do they go out on any anonymous call about anything? Does it have to be a severe credible tip or complaint? I'm just asking bc I thought they - as a dept -  are over-worked and under-staffed and so they have to be discerning about what cases they pursue due to time and tight funds allocation; but I could be way off on that.


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« Reply #829 on: February 23, 2009, 06:56:42 PM »

I am in Canada. Far away from FL.
But, human nature in these cases is the same.
Whoever has the kiddos gets the child support.
Games are played to get more time with the kiddos to get the child support, making this a commercial transaction rather than anything that has to do with the best interests of the child.
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Crystal would have to have a job or had a job in order for her pay child support and a portion of health care.
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It will come out via paper rather than this internet blog stuff.
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« Reply #830 on: February 23, 2009, 06:58:14 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.

Thanks, I just saw that.
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« Reply #831 on: February 23, 2009, 07:00:10 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.

Yep. I am going to watch JVM. But, Crystal and Chad don't live in Satsuma. This entire thing is odd. Too many characters that I am liking for this.   
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« Reply #832 on: February 23, 2009, 07:04:14 PM »

Maybe the paper that Ron handed over to LE was a list of who has been saying bad things about him.

 
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« Reply #833 on: February 23, 2009, 07:04:52 PM »

Maybe the paper that Ron handed over to LE was a list of who has been saying bad things about him.

 


 
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« Reply #834 on: February 23, 2009, 07:08:29 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.

Thanks, I just saw that.

Maybe he's being charged with slander
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« Reply #835 on: February 23, 2009, 07:09:40 PM »

In the Geraldo clip, Crystal says "We were living in Leesburg at his mother's house; I was pregnant with Haleigh;" So that gives a time (roughly) and a place; Does that fit with the restraining order locale at all?

Also, they keep saying Haleigh and "school;" Do they mean kindergarten since she's 5? If so, that is over at like 12 PM not 3 PM right? He says he picked her up at the bus stop.

Just trying to get these bits straight in my head.
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« Reply #836 on: February 23, 2009, 07:10:54 PM »

Maybe the paper that Ron handed over to LE was a list of who has been saying bad things about him.

 


 

Just thinking out loud....

Now if Junior is correct in saying a man in black took his sister does that mean junior was awake and also wouldnt he been upset and frighten to stay in the house... crying for his sister....
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« Reply #837 on: February 23, 2009, 07:11:13 PM »

daughter2 wants to know why the babysitter/gf gets to smoke on tv... she says the law is you cannot smoke till you are 18....... has she been cited for it?
    DAUGHTER 2 is very observant!!!  good job 
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« Reply #838 on: February 23, 2009, 07:12:22 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.

Yep. I am going to watch JVM. But, Crystal and Chad don't live in Satsuma. This entire thing is odd. Too many characters that I am liking for this.   

I think Crystal is also Ronald's mothers name?  There are 2 Crystals.
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« Reply #839 on: February 23, 2009, 07:13:07 PM »

Jane Velez-Mitchell (JVM) is reporting on HLN that Crystal's fiance was interviewed by LE today FWIW.

Thanks, I just saw that.

Maybe he's being charged with slander

I don't believe slander is a criminal offense.  Slander is something dealt with in civil courts.
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