The Shadow Party - Who is George Soros?

[WhiskeyGirl]

How much does George Soros influence the global misery index?  Is he one of the super rich that profits from the misery of those trapped into the cycle of free trade around the globe?

George Soros:  International Man of Misery

 By Joy Tiz  Wednesday, February 18, 2009

The term “euphemism” refers to the substitution of a vague or milder term for one that may be considered harsh, offensive or blunt.

Example: George Soros is a “philanthropist”.

If by “philanthropist” we mean one who creates chaos, destruction and financial ruin for his own personal gain, it’s a perfect fit.  Calling Soros a philanthropist is rather like referring to the Nazi block wardens as Neighborhood Watch.

Soros certainly gives lots of money away.  But a philanthropist acts to improve the human condition.  Soros acts solely to improve the Soros condition.  Despite the lofty sounding rhetoric about an Open Society, Soros’ objective is to wreck the United States.  Actually Soros never really defines his Open Society.  The concept arose in the 1930s with the notion of a moral code based on “universal principles”.  After tweaking the concept to suit his own purposes, Soros adopted his own version of an Open Society which would be one in which the US has no power.

I do believe that the U.S. is headed to destruction, poverty, and generations of misery.  The U.S. is broke, but continues to borrow money.  Why would anyone borrow money to a nation that is broke?

Soros amassed his fortune by speculating in the currency markets.  He got a lot of attention for tanking the British pound in 1992.  More than once, Soros has used his status as an investor to manipulate markets.  According to Horowitz and Poe, the great patriot Soros likely sold short after 9/11 when the rest of the nation was being urged to take whatever they could afford and buy some shares of their favorite stocks.  Lots of patriotic Americans did exactly that.

I remember hearing or reading Rahm Emanuel saying somewhere that Soros was cheap, it was an interview about fundraising for the Democratic party.  For many reasons, I believe Blago and Burris are just diversions from the real problems.

For all of the nonsensical blathering he does about how he can make the world a better place, he has no real plan to do any such thing.  Soros loses interest in a project after the demo phase is over.  According to Horowitz and Poe, Soros candidly admits he finds destruction easier than creation....

In 2004 Soros made it his personal mission to defeat George W Bush.  Not only did Bush not share his moral relativism and radical ideology, Soros was outraged about Afghanistan and Iraq.  Soros opposed Bush’s War on Terror and provides funding to pro terror groups.  Worse still from Soros’ point of view, after enjoying easy access to the Clintons, Bush was not equally impressed and failed to seek out his wise counsel on foreign policy.

In any day and age, governments in my opinion, should build firewalls around their economies so that if certain forces take down one nation, the other ONLY get a cold.  Nations shouldn't collapse like dominos.

It's part of the theory behind the internet - a military project run amok and into the lives of each and every one.  Build in good solid communications that cannot be interruped during times of unrest or war. 

Build a good solid economy that can withstand outside forces, unrest and war.  In my mind on of the best cures for many evils in this world is a sound economy.  The U.S. is headed for an economy based on a broken down roller coaster.  Wow - what a ride we're in for.   

The type of revolution Soros wants requires a charismatic figure that can create a mass movement.   Soros himself actually dislikes publicity.  Good oratory skills and personal charisma are what he needs.  Soros himself prefers to stay below the radar and work his subterfuge behind the scenes.  After all, “Soros’ main concern is that somebody be elected who is indebted enough to him to pick up the phone when he calls” (Ehrenfeld and MacComber).

Charismatic figure = Barack Obama

Problems with a birth certificate?  No problem.  Just don't show your cards, put up a legal fight, anything but reveal the true facts.  If the facts are not really the issue, it is to create a diversion from something else.  Maybe the involvement of Soros? 

What a grand legacy he will leave behind.

It’s important to understand that George Soros doesn’t want to “change” America.  He wants to destroy it.  America in its current state is anathema to Soros.  The current Oval Office Occupant is not particularly fond of America either.  His association with America hating radicals should be enough for most people but let’s not overlook the fact that his very first sit down interview after becoming president was to al Arabyia News Channel.  Obama took the opportunity to share his views with the Muslim world that America has behaved very badly and we can be expected to change our ways so our relationship with Muslims will be like it was “twenty or thirty years ago”.  This is a bit perplexing unless Obama either knows less about history than we thought or he longs for the days when Islamofascists led by Khomeini were holding 52 American hostages.  I daresay the Muslim world was cheered to learn that our new president plans to take us back to the happy halcyon days of the Carter Administration.  Soros is actually working toward a plan to completely overhaul the US Constitution.

I suspect the recent pork/spending bill will provide a cushion for many to the economic destruction, devastation, and misery I expect in the near future.

The Democrats are the party that will 'spend' us out of the depression.  Has this ever worked for any nation?

For all the posturing Soros does about creating his Marxist Utopia there is no actual plan to create a new social order, an open one or otherwise.  Soros, for all of his rambling hasn’t thought it through that far and he is not going to.  His interest begins and ends with his potential to exploit whomever he can to grab money and power.  He actually makes garden variety dopey liberals rather endearing by comparison.  At least some of them believe in their unrealistic vision of socialism.

Do normal socialists and liberals pale in comparison to what  Soros has in mind?  Maybe he plans on giving away all his money to fix the problems of the U.S.?

Keeping in mind that Soros will always act in ways that provide maximum benefit to Soros what are his plans for Obama?  It’s clear he found the cult leader he needed.  Obama is performing correctly with his daily catastrophizing and power grabbing.  But what would benefit Soros more:  a successful Obama presidency or a failed one?  Success would give Soros four to eight years to work in the Shadows to destroy America and grab what spoils he can.  But a failed presidency could offer even more.  Obama and his Ministry of Propaganda have managed to create fear and panic in the population.  His policies, if implemented cannot but lead to economic trouble and eventual shortages and rationing.  Nobody knows more about how to destroy a currency than Soros.  We have assumed that the peculiar short selling patterns and over hyped economic “collapse” were staged to get Obama elected.  If an inept, inexperienced and radical president has his way, which Obama surely will, the net result is pretty predictable.  Is that kind of social and economic chaos designed to open up a power vacuum that a guy like Soros just can’t resist?

Will George Soros live forever?  A leftover from Hitler?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8574

just my opinions

[WhiskeyGirl]

The Top 115 Individual Donors: Bloomberg, Soros, Catsimatidis

by Jimmy Vielkind on February 17, 2009

"It's a small number of people giving big checks. So you're starting to see a picture of who funds Albany: it's powerful interest groups, corporations, trade associations, unions and the last part of the picture are big donations, presumably from wealthy individuals," said Blair Horner, NYPIRG's legislative director.

Not entirely surprisingly, the top donor is Michael Bloomberg.

High on the list are lobbyist Patricia Lynch, financier George Soros (and several relatives) as well as supermarket mogul and potential mayoral candidate John Catsimatidis.

Barbara Bartoletti, legislative director of the League of Women Voters, repeated her call to reform campaign finance, but noted that the governor and legislative leaders are "all of one mind" and that with the Democrats controlling all three points of power, "the political excuses no longer exist."

Enforcement of the current laws are very lax, Bartoletti said, noting State Senator Pedro Espada, Jr. is still not in compliance for the last election cycle.

http://www.*******.com/mobile/article/82434

The nations doesn't screen/vet political candidates, voters, etc.  Based on many of my own observations, I believe vote/election fraud exists in many places in the U.S. 

Nobody is looking out for the best interests of Americans.

just my opinions

[WhiskeyGirl]

George Soros: “Russia can commit new military adventures”
 
[ 16 Feb 2009 15:16 ]
Baku – APA. The Kremlin can commit new acts of aggression due to the world financial crisis, famous financier George Soros said in his article published in Russian “Vedomosti” newspaper, APA reports.

George Soros writes that fall of oil price has changed the geopolitical landscape and mentions that oil-rich countries Iran, Venezuela and Russia has recently opposed the current world order.
At the time when oil sale is not so profitable, they have fewer chances to organize political intrigues. What can we expect from Russia while other countries will express careful and soft position? It should be noted that not careful bureaucrats, but adventurers work in the Kremlin and they took serious risks to obtain what they have now. They can use great opportunities of power.

The financier considers if the oil price does not rise, one can expect from Moscow new military adventures, like the war in Georgia, and repressions inside the country.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=97178

The U.S. is bankrupt and has fewer resources than at any time in history.  With continued spending, the future looks even dimmer.

mo

[WhiskeyGirl]

He says Mr Soros runs a campaign to legalise marijuana disguised as "harm reduction" but he says in reality, it is anything but.

"Harm reduction increases the likelihood that drugs will be available. It increases the drug harm that results from it. It decreases the efficacy of police and disempowers parents and the community.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyID=152621

Why would anyone want to make our communities less safe? 

[WhiskeyGirl]

February 17, 2009

Exclusive: Who Was Behind the Attack on Our Economy – Just Before the Election?
John Sweat


A financial attack on the world economy happened on Monday, September 15, 2008 – but we're not supposed to talk about this. The mainstream media has been ignoring this issue, and the only attention it has been receiving is from talk radio and the blogosphere.
 
House Representative Paul Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania) let slip in a January 27, 2009 interview on C-Span the following about a discussion in a meeting he attended with Secretary of the Treasury Hank Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke:
 

"…at about 11 o'clock in the morning, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to the tune of $550 billion, as being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two.
 
"The Treasury opened up its window to help. It pumped $105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn't be further panic out there, and that's what actually happened."
 
If they had not done that, their estimation was that by 2 o'clock that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy system of the United States and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed."

No further details were forthcoming.

A certain well-known financier has a theory, a theory that "...financial markets cannot possibly discount the future correctly because they do not merely discount the future; they help to shape it. In certain circumstances, financial markets can affect the so-called fundamentals which they are supposed to reflect."
 
In other words, markets can be manipulated at the right time by creating "dynamic disequillibrium." The theory was put into practice in 1992 in a manner that collapsed the European monetary system. In 1996 and 1998, the same principles were applied in response to the Asian currency crises.
 
It appears the timing of the Kanjorski-described bank run of mid-September 2008 was applied to create dynamic disequillibrium, and it succeeded spectacularly. By creating a cascade effect that impacted the American economy, the market manipulator succeeded in creating a situation that directly led to – dare we say it – regime change in the United States.
 
One man – a person found guilty of insider trading and who, according to BBC News, “is widely known as the man who ‘broke the pound’, after helping force sterling out of Europe's exchange rate mechanism in 1992” - has made no secret of his desire for regime change in the United States. Indeed he has said the following:
 
"America under Bush", he said, "is a danger to the world, and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."  That man is George Soros. In fact, it is reported that Soros spent over $20 million in 2004 trying to defeat Bush, calling it “the central focus of my life, a matter of life and death.” Such fanaticism reveals extreme, even irrational, disdain and loathing for its target and can lead to very nasty outcomes.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2539/pub_detail.asp

The good news - we are created from dust, and to dust and our creator we return.  By devine design, the physical body does not live forever. 

At some time in the future, flowers will bloom in the wake of forces that seek to destroy us. 

Soros has not made any secret of his disdain for Capitalism in its current form, either. In his book, Open Society, he wrote, "The main failing of global capitalism is that it is too one-sided: it puts too much emphasis on the pursuit of profit and economic success and neglects social and political considerations."
 
According to Robert Slater, George Soros has long sought to "wield power in Washington, not by winning elective office nor even by being appointed to an important cabinet post." In other words, power without accountability or oversight.

Maybe Soros is one of the 'rich' the Democrats think can afford to pay more?

my opinions

[WhiskeyGirl]

I can't claim to understand all of this, but it sounds like in the EU, the buck stops in individual members pockets.  The changes would mean that the buck stops in someone else's pocket and all may pay for the irresponsibility of a few.

The euro suffers from certain structural deficiencies; it has a central bank but it does not have a central treasury and the supervision of the banking system is left to national authorities. These defects are increasingly making their influence felt, aggravating the financial crisis.

Sounds like the time in the U.S. before the Federal Reserve.  Who owns the Federal Reserve in the U.S.?  Who profits everytime the currency supply is expanded?

The capacity of individual member states to protect their banks came into question and the interest rate spread between different government bonds began to widen alarmingly. Moreover, national regulators, in their efforts to protect their banks, were unwittingly engaging in beggar-thy-neighbour policies. All this is contributing to internal tensions.

Sounds like some states in the U.S. beggering the nation and therefore other states...Germany is at odds with most of the world in its attitude to the current financial crisis but it is easy to understand why. It has been traumatised by its history during the 1930s when runaway inflation in the Weimar republic led to the rise of Hitler. While the rest of the world recognises that the way to counteract the collapse of credit is by expanding the monetary base, Germany remains opposed to any policy that might carry the seeds of eventual inflation. Moreover, while Germany has been a steadfast supporter of European integration, it is understandably reluctant to become the deep pocket that finances bail-outs in the eurozone.

Sounds like someone in Germany remembers...those who forget the past are bound to repeat it.

... Properly structured, it would relieve Germany’s anxiety about other countries picking its pocket.

 

The regulation of the financial system would then be put in the hands of the European Central Bank while the task of guaranteeing and, when necessary, rescuing financial institutions would fall to the finance ministers...

What happens when the central bank is out of control?

...Usually it takes a crisis to bring about a compromise but the crisis is now brewing and the sooner it is resolved the better.

I say...the U.S. is past due to take control of or abolish the Federal Reserve and return to the constitution.  "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9e79ee62-fdc3-11dd-932e-000077b07658.html

jmho

[WhiskeyGirl]

Some folks like Soros -

http://www.betterworldheroes.com/soros.htm (coming soon)

[nonesuche]

WG it's a shame tylergal isn't here to respond, she's an expert on Soros and yes, he's a terrifying figure. He does despise the US and is orchestrating our downfall, at least as a driving force/player in this for some time now.

[WhiskeyGirl]

WG it's a shame tylergal isn't here to respond, she's an expert on Soros and yes, he's a terrifying figure. He does despise the US and is orchestrating our downfall, at least as a driving force/player in this for some time now.

There are so many good reasons to build financial firewalls between nations, trading partners, states, and financial despots.

The actions of one player shouldn't collapse the whole enchilada. 

Bigger is not better. 

A EU or United States is only as good as it's weakest link.  Should the weakest link destroy everything? 

The development of the 'internet' over the past 40 years is a good example of how networks can be built and benefit everyone.  Smart duplication and technology to ensure that if one link is taken out, the others continue with little interruption or effect on the other hubs.

[LouiseVargas]

From what I've heard about George Soros from Bill O'Reilly (a conservative Republican), he is a rich, liberal Democrat who is promoting the Democratic party. O'Reilly hates him.

[nonesuche]

Louise I am sure BOR dislikes Soros but the bigger picture is many dislike and also fear Soros. This piece is a good short one on his philosophies and also the holes within those.

I always find it bizarre that people would listen to a very rich man spouting we should all 'serve' and make great personal sacrifices for the common good. As if he might ever do that himself? What I mean is not to stroke a check or deliver a blow hard speech, or even as he does, work overtime to undermine any republican. It's that he would never sacrifice himself for the common good, just some of his money - and if you peel back the onion of even that - he's benefitting from it in some personal regard.

http://world-development-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_advent_of_the_antichrist

[WhiskeyGirl]

Soros sees no bottom for world financial "collapse"

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE51K0A920090221

Where are the financial firewalls to protect this country?  Where was the Democratic Congress when some wanted to reform the problems before the catastrophe?  Democrats controlled Congress two years before Obama was elected...Obama was part of the Democrat controlled Congress.  Why didn't he make a difference? 

jmho

[nonesuche]

WG - what Soros won't say is how the influence of ACORN on Fannie Mae and others, to force our banks to make home loans to those who really could not qualify for traditional loans was such a catalyst for the housing bubble, is the factor most are now tracing back to our decline. Our financial system was largely compromised by all the bad 'paper' and Obama was pushing all the while for every American, credit worthy or not, to be financed for a home.

Now Obama is just pouring more money onto that fire and China now owns 40% of our debt? Throwing money on this is not solving the problem, our financial systems are all connected globally now. If Obama moves to open the door to nationalize the banks that will be the first step toward eliminating private banking, and we will know that socialism was the goal from the get-go from this new administration and the democrats.

[WhiskeyGirl]

I think the reason Obama doesn't want those folks to file for bankruptcy is that some, if not all have already gone that route.  They aren't currently eligible, and are between a rock and a hard spot.  It's a tough place to be. 

Over the years I've known folks to filed for medical bills, failed business, divorce estate planning by spouse, and for excessive credit card debt.  Most of these folks just stepped off the path and went on to live responsible lives.

These days, it seems like folks have been encouraged to spend, spend, spend, and file, file, file.  Spend and file as often as necessary. Some can't file bankruptcy again, it's to soon.  So, Obama want's to excuse the spending yet again.

my opinions

[WhiskeyGirl]

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

"We are still in the third and fourth innings," Roubini told Reuters in an interview, using a baseball analogy to drive home his view that the current cycle is only nearing its midpoint.

"And it's getting worse," said Roubini, a professor at New York University's Stern School of Business and chairman of RGE Monitor, an independent economic research firm.

It would be more responsible for somebody in Ben Bernanke’s position to admit that the U.S. Dollar is on the verge of collapse, and the only thing keeping the illusion of solvency alive is the increasingly opaque treasury auctions, where anonymous “primary bidders” are increasingly defined as domestic as opposed to foreign. That way, investors would be able to migrate their now over-priced U.S. Dollars into under-priced precious metals so that the rogue wave of impending dollar demise doesn’t sink all the ships left in the harbor that haven’t been foreclosed upon.

And Barack Obama’s image as the Bird of Paradise is losing feathers faster than you can say DoubleSpeak. From one side of his magnificently articulate lips he asks for $3.6 trillion in spending while from the other he promises to halve the U.S. deficit by the end of his “first” term. I think that’s admirable, but again, based on what? All of the key indicators point to a rise in the deficit, and this first budget sets the record for highest deficit of all time.

A smart investor would observe the continued demand for gold, the diminishing appetite by foreigners (particularly China) for U.S. Treasurys, the escalating domino effect of collapsing banks, and stagnant world inventories, and rightly conclude that for all the smiles and reassurances, you can’t fall half the way off a cliff, and a golden pillow is all that’s out there to break an individual’s fall.

http://www.midasletter.com/commentary/090227-1_Bernanke-contradicting-soros-roubini-volcker-reality.php

[WhiskeyGirl]

Most hated man on the globe?

Coleman will win, no one wants to see the Demonicrats steal another election with ACORN carrying the voter fraud votes. Frankin is a big bumba-s, he was never funny nor smart , and we need real people in congress to remove the illegal alien Obama and send him back to Kenya where he was born or Indonesia sinnce he still is a Mulsim citizen! I bet ACORN stole 2.5 million votes through voter fraud across the nation, and OBAMA gave the 8.5 billion dollars in the Pork/stealing America blind/stimulus package to ACORN (YIKES)! Coleman wins by 1800 plus votes. Schummer should be in jail when he tanked the Indy Mac Bank right on que with Soros tanking the entire countries net worth by 1.5 trillion on sept 16 2008 to get Obama elected and now is trying to steal a senate seat! I call for Obama/Barry Soetoro (Google this name up), Schummer Sorors to be  removed as economic terrorists!   Frankin would even further Obamas Marxist Dictatorship, by being an Obamas B-tt boy slave!

NOBAMA ILLEGAL ALIEN 2010 (Sent Friday, February 27, 2009 11:16 AM)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/02/27/1813134.aspx

The amounts going to ACORN seem to be increasing.  I wonder what the online check book will show at the end of the year?  How much to ACORN and affiliates?