Natalee Case Discussion #802 2/21/09 - 2/25/09

[Magnolia]

Definitions of MUI on the Web:

Multilingual User Interface (MUI) is the name of a Microsoft technology for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office and other applications that allows ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUI

Thanks Klaas.

The definition is all Dutch to me but ... could the definition be applied to a grid as it related to the Persistence undertaking.

Janet

I think I found it!! 

This was posted by Mum in Ohio the same day as Caps post using the acronym.

Netherlands Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia31 Coy on Curaçao and 32 Coy on Aruba. These units are under direct command of the ... Marine Intervention Unit (former BBE) (a Counter-terrorism unit); ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps - 41k
 
 
 

[Tamikosmom]

Definitions of MUI on the Web:

Multilingual User Interface (MUI) is the name of a Microsoft technology for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office and other applications that allows ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUI

Thanks Klaas.

The definition is all Dutch to me but ... could the definition be applied to a grid as it related to the Persistence undertaking.

Janet

I think I found it!! 

This was posted by Mum in Ohio the same day as Caps post using the acronym.

Netherlands Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia31 Coy on Curaçao and 32 Coy on Aruba. These units are under direct command of the ... Marine Intervention Unit (former BBE) (a Counter-terrorism unit); ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps - 41k
 
 
 

Great find Magnolia!!!

MIU were the right initials ... not MUI.

MIU makes sense when you consider the context of CAPS' post.

My hubby showed me on his Marine locator system where the initials MUI are on the screen where he can map out/grid the different areas within a certain area of our local waters.  I think I worded that right.

 

Janet

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CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
« Reply #394 on: January 27, 2008, 03:27:58 PM »

No no

The question is like this

Joran said that they drop the body near the Mariotte are, fishermans hut. but it is not the body that was drop. something else was drop.  Joran self was not there, it was the young MIU and the Shivas that went over there but not to build sand casle.

The KALOES (SURINAM) MOBS must have drop someting over there so that The MIU can recovert it and with the f16 send to holland.

but the real body was dumped in a body of water in noord that has not been search

The MUI was a diversion for something else.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg332992#msg332992

[Magnolia]

Definitions of MUI on the Web:

Multilingual User Interface (MUI) is the name of a Microsoft technology for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office and other applications that allows ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUI

Thanks Klaas.

The definition is all Dutch to me but ... could the definition be applied to a grid as it related to the Persistence undertaking.

Janet

I think I found it!! 

This was posted by Mum in Ohio the same day as Caps post using the acronym.

Netherlands Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia31 Coy on Curaçao and 32 Coy on Aruba. These units are under direct command of the ... Marine Intervention Unit (former BBE) (a Counter-terrorism unit); ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps - 41k
 
 
 

It was in answer to this query from CapsLockWizzard:

Klaasend:

Good Morning all monkeys. This is the last question in the Shango Riddle
and I will give you a sample of what is coming...Today is the day that the floors will shake...prepare the news...

but first the question
Do anyone know the name for the Dutch Special force like the SEALS of the USA

[Tamikosmom]

Kyle Kingman does not clarify anything in the following post.  If visibility prevented divers/Tim Trahan from conclusively determining the contents of the trap/cage ... why was Tim Miller put in the position of informing the family of Natalee Holloway that there was NOTHING case related in the cage/trap?

Logic dictates that Dave and Beth would have been informed that another dive would be necessary to conclusively determine if the contents of the cage/trap was related to their precious daughter.

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!

Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17.
Scottish author & novelist (1771 - 1832)

Janet
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oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 -
« Reply #284 on: March 03, 2008, 11:34:25 PM »

To clarify the thumb down issue:

-It was agreed immediately before the 30-Dec dive that 2 thumbs up (by Tim Trahan) meant positive ID on Natalee from something conclusive.

-One thumb up was to indicate human remains

-There was no set signal pre-dive for anything but the above scenarios.
 
By Tim's own admission, his observation of the inside of the trap (lasting a few seconds) was inconclusive. His signal indicated an inconclusive observation referring to the object said by some to be a skull, a hardened sponge by others...

What you can't see is immediately before Tim approached the trap opening, a large skate stirred up sediment reducing visibility.

The quick signal came because the dive time was nearly up .

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360282#msg360282


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The Search for Natalee Holloway
TRANSCRIPT
By Chris Hansen
Correspondent
NBC News
updated 5:20 p.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 22, 2008

Chris Hansen: That had to be a crushing blow.

Tim Miller: It was a crushing blow.

Now Tim Miller had to deliver that same crushing blow to Natalee’s parents.

Chris Hansen: How hard is it for you to dial their numbers and tell them that this in fact is not the break in the case we-- we hoped for?

Tim Miller: Probably one of the hardest calls I ever made. Probably one of the hardest … probably should have never made the first one. But everything looked right at the time.

Natalee’s father was at home in Mississippi when the call came.

Chris Hansen: What was it like for you to, once again, have a setback?

Dave Holloway: That's probably about the time that-- the chest pains intensified to an extreme. I mean, how many times can I take this?

Beth Holloway: You know, it's a disappointment. But, you have to look at the magnitude and the sacrifices being made even to get to that point.

Chris Hansen: You didn't know these folks before this happened. What do they represent to you now?

Dave Holloway: They represent heroes to me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/5/

If by 'large skate' he means 'the ALE Divers', then I guess I can believe that.

Very profound Lifesong.

 

Janet

I have always been troubled by Kyle's explanation that the "dive time was almost up". The skate stirred up the bottom at the END of the dive. What did they see BEFORE the skate stirred up the sea????? What, did they have only 1 minute of air in the tanks???????? 

Even if the dive time was up ... whatever that means.  The possibility that Natalee Holloway's remains were in that cage/trap should not be ruled out.  Another dive would be were it was at.

I contend the thumbs down was a sign predetermined by the "powers that be" prior to divers even getting wet on December 30th.

Janet

[Magnolia]

The reason I was so interested in it was that CapsLockWizzard is saying
that Joran wasn't there.
It was the Shivas(Kalpoes) and the young MIU(young Dutch Marine).

His words were nothing but the same as Julia Renfro and put out there
for the same purpose.

[Tamikosmom]

The reason I was so interested in it was that CapsLockWizzard is saying
that Joran wasn't there.
It was the Shivas(Kalpoes) and the young MIU(young Dutch Marine).

His words were nothing but the same as Julia Renfro and put out there
for the same purpose.

I contend that CAPS reeks of the Mark Purcell/Julia Renfro/ATAHA gang.

Janet

[bastibro]

Hey guys (and girls),

I found a photo of Julia Renfro in her younger years,



Thought you all would like to see it 

[Magnolia]

The reason I was so interested in it was that CapsLockWizzard is saying
that Joran wasn't there.
It was the Shivas(Kalpoes) and the young MIU(young Dutch Marine).

His words were nothing but the same as Julia Renfro and put out there
for the same purpose.

I contend that CAPS reeks of the Mark Purcell/Julia Renfro/ATAHA gang.

Janet

I think that you contend correctly, Janet.

[caesu]

Definitions of MUI on the Web:

Multilingual User Interface (MUI) is the name of a Microsoft technology for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office and other applications that allows ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUI

Thanks Klaas.

The definition is all Dutch to me but ... could the definition be applied to a grid as it related to the Persistence undertaking.

Janet

I think I found it!! 

This was posted by Mum in Ohio the same day as Caps post using the acronym.

Netherlands Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia31 Coy on Curaçao and 32 Coy on Aruba. These units are under direct command of the ... Marine Intervention Unit (former BBE) (a Counter-terrorism unit); ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps - 41k
 
 
 

It was in answer to this query from CapsLockWizzard:

Klaasend:

Good Morning all monkeys. This is the last question in the Shango Riddle
and I will give you a sample of what is coming...Today is the day that the floors will shake...prepare the news...

but first the question
Do anyone know the name for the Dutch Special force like the SEALS of the USA

here a list special forces:

The Korps Commandotroepen (KCT) are the elite special forces of the Royal Netherlands Army. It is one of the two principal units tasked with special operations in the Netherlands (the other being the Maritime Special Operations Forces (MARSOF) of the Dutch Marine Corps), and it is deployable anywhere in the world under any circumstance, conducting all conceivable missions from the full spectrum of special operations, including counter-terrorism overseas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korps_Commandotroepen

The Unit Interventie Mariniers (Unit Intervention Marines, UIM), formerly known as the Bijzondere Bijstands Eenheid (BBE), is an elite Dutch special forces unit, which is especially trained for intervention missions. It consists of a selection of specially trained marines of the Dutch Marine Corps, and it is part of the Maritime Special Operations Forces (MARSOF), which is the maritime counterpart of the Dutch Army's Korps Commandotroepen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_Interventie_Mariniers

The 11 Luchtmobiele Brigade (Air Assault) '7 December' (11 Luchtmobiele Brigade, or 11 LMB) is the elite rapid-reaction air assault unit of the Royal Netherlands Army. Its operators are trained to be deployed via helicopters (using fast-rope and rappelling) and fixed wing aircraft (parachute), and can be deployed anywhere in the world within 7 to maximally 20 days. Combined with the helicopters of the Royal Netherlands Air Force, they form the 11 Air Manoeuvre Brigade (11 AMB).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_Luchtmobiele_Brigade

[caesu]

addition:

Special Forces

The Maritime Special Operations Forces (MARSOF) are the combined Special Forces units of the Marine Corps, namely the Maritime Special Operations company (MSO-CIE) and the Unit Interventie Mariniers (UIM). MSO-CIE contains the Mountain Leader and "SEALs" (frogmen) long-range reconnaissance platoons. UIM operations include domestic counter-terrorism, as well as international SF operations together with MSO-CIE (as MARSOF).

MARSOF regularly work together with the Korps Commandotroepen of the Dutch Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Marine_Corps#Specialisations

[Keepthefaith]

Just researching Geolab srl and happened to come across this.So weird how things pop-up with names that we've been thinking about!Keep digging Monkey's..

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[wingnut]

Posted by Lorain at RU:

LoRain Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:16 pm   

Many pardons....but I'm not sure anyone got the question...WHY do SM's still say that Natalee was in the cage when Dave is on his way to FIND HER????

But really I just want the question asked at SM....usually folks are lined up to copy and paste elsewhere but for some strange reason....NOT this time....why is that??....

You just don't get it do you?  It's not so much we believe Natalee was in the trap, as that KYLE believed she was in the trap.  Kyle's own words point to a diversion AGAIN by the Aruban authorities and yet ANOTHER injustice to Natalee and her family.  Did KYLE tell the truth or did KYLE lie? 

Where has SM said that Natalee was in the trap?

That was Kyle who said human remains, etc.  I don't know if she was or not and the reason I don't know is that whatever was in the trap was given exclusively to ALE.

Given their history, how can anybody claim to know what they did with the trap contents?  Kyle said it was human remains and fitted a photo of Natalee over the contents of the trap.

Also, some keep forgetting that the door of the trap was forced inward and that must be taken into account in these measurements which makes them somewhat differrent.  Some always measure against a quarter of the trap when in fact it is the entire door that I believe the baggies are on top of. 

Is that a correct assumption in regards to the door or am I confused as usual?

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In addition to KYLE stating that they were human remains, the FBI stated that they were human remains......at least, according to Kyle.

[klaasend]

Definitions of MUI on the Web:

Multilingual User Interface (MUI) is the name of a Microsoft technology for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office and other applications that allows ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUI

Thanks Klaas.

The definition is all Dutch to me but ... could the definition be applied to a grid as it related to the Persistence undertaking.

Janet

I think I found it!! 

This was posted by Mum in Ohio the same day as Caps post using the acronym.

Netherlands Marine Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia31 Coy on Curaçao and 32 Coy on Aruba. These units are under direct command of the ... Marine Intervention Unit (former BBE) (a Counter-terrorism unit); ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps - 41k
 
 
 

Thanks Magnolia!

[Anna]

I think Tim Miller went off to chase down Marco.  I don't think TIm Miller had a clue he was not welcome on the Persistence.

But I can tell you that I think the reason he would still work with Silvetti is the same reason he will still work with the Anthonys in the Caylee case.  He went to see George Anthony when he was so upset and attempted suicide.

Tim is a very unique person.  He has his flaws and so is very tolerant of them in other people.  He is almost like a man without a temper.  Never seems to get angry except at Leonard Padilla.  He always refused to say anything negative about Aruba because he knew he might have to go back and ask to search again so he would sometimes praise them when I know he could have choked the lot of them. 

I think that is just the way he is.  He will do anything to search and that's basically all he cares about.

To me he is a hero and lovable character in all of this and other cases. 

[Anna]

I just had a strange thought.  Since it was Dolphi Richardson who tripled the search area, what if he did it because they wanted a map to move the big port. 

Just a thought. . . .maybe he thought he could get a free map by saying to triple the area.  Is this anywhere close to where they plan the new port to be?

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4145.80

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The man's name was Marcos by any account I have read. 

[Tamikosmom]

The reason I was so interested in it was that CapsLockWizzard is saying
that Joran wasn't there.
It was the Shivas(Kalpoes) and the young MIU(young Dutch Marine).

His words were nothing but the same as Julia Renfro and put out there
for the same purpose.

I contend that CAPS reeks of the Mark Purcell/Julia Renfro/ATAHA gang.

Janet

I think that you contend correctly, Janet.

When CAPS attempts to justify Beth's apparent lies to to Julia Renfro in regards to Natalee Holloway being a virgin ... he is subtlely implying that Beth is a liar.

Beth does not lie.  She is on a quest for the truth.  How will lies accomplish that.

If Beth states that Natalee was a virgin ... she believes that Natalee was a virgin.  Beth did not have an underlying motive to state what she know is not true.

Janet

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BETH LIES??


CAPS

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #609 on: April 01, 2008, 03:15:49 AM »

my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369749#msg369749


GEROLD DOMPIG

Missing White Female
by Bryan Burrough January 2006

Despite reports to the contrary, Dompig feels certain Natalee didn't meet Joran until her final day on Aruba, Sunday. He confirms that there have been numerous reports that she may have been involved with other young men on the island. "We have taken two statements, from Julia Renfro and a Holiday Inn worker, that Beth told them she had gotten a call from her daughter, and that she was in love with a tall, blue-eyed Dutch teenager. So [Beth] had contact with her daughter. But she denies it. The question is why. If [the Twittys] don't level with us, how can they talk about a conspiracy? We need to know the truth. Joran did not have blue eyes. So who was this boy?" Beth denies making any such statements, or even having talked with Natalee while she was in Aruba.

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2006/01/natalee200601?currentPage=9



JULIA RENFRO

As missing-teen case cools, Aruba turns against family
By Carol J. Williams
Los Angeles Times

American Julia Renfro, editor-in-chief of Aruba Today, initially sided with Holloway's parents when they sought publicity and lambasted Aruban police for following Dutch investigative procedures different from those in the United States.

Galvanized by compassion for a desperate mother, Renfro stopped the presses of her daily newspaper for the first time in its history to include a picture of Holloway to aid Arubans in the islandwide search.

Renfro, a mother of four, spent weeks shuttling the family from the scene of one rumored development to another, but she became disenchanted with what she saw as Twitty's pandering to tabloid TV and "flat-out lies" she told on the air.

"I feel guilty saying any negative thing about a mother who has lost her daughter," Renfro said. "But her behavior was odd from the get-go."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003741183_aruba09.html


MARK PURCELL

Source: MIP6 on rjames.com forums October 11, 2005, 06:46 AM

I figure with my next post I should get the boot, haven’t decided which one to use yet the Beth lies or denouncing the Sainthood of Natalee. I have way too much fun watching them all freak out.

[Sam]

Just here for a minute to say I continue to pray for Natalee and all of her family.

Sam

[bastibro]

I think Tim Miller went off to chase down Marco.  I don't think TIm Miller had a clue he was not welcome on the Persistence.

But I can tell you that I think the reason he would still work with Silvetti is the same reason he will still work with the Anthonys in the Caylee case.  He went to see George Anthony when he was so upset and attempted suicide.

Tim is a very unique person.  He has his flaws and so is very tolerant of them in other people.  He is almost like a man without a temper.  Never seems to get angry except at Leonard Padilla.  He always refused to say anything negative about Aruba because he knew he might have to go back and ask to search again so he would sometimes praise them when I know he could have choked the lot of them. 

I think that is just the way he is.  He will do anything to search and that's basically all he cares about.

To me he is a hero and lovable character in all of this and other cases. 

Tim is solid gold!

[Sam]

I think Tim Miller went off to chase down Marco.  I don't think TIm Miller had a clue he was not welcome on the Persistence.

But I can tell you that I think the reason he would still work with Silvetti is the same reason he will still work with the Anthonys in the Caylee case.  He went to see George Anthony when he was so upset and attempted suicide.

Tim is a very unique person.  He has his flaws and so is very tolerant of them in other people.  He is almost like a man without a temper.  Never seems to get angry except at Leonard Padilla.  He always refused to say anything negative about Aruba because he knew he might have to go back and ask to search again so he would sometimes praise them when I know he could have choked the lot of them. 

I think that is just the way he is.  He will do anything to search and that's basically all he cares about.

To me he is a hero and lovable character in all of this and other cases. 

I think part of it is he feels the pain of families who have lost a loved one because he has been there and done that.

When I met Tim I told him he was a hero and gave him a hug. He said" I am no hero . I am just a small fish in a big old pond."