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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois, 14yr, Last seen 02/13/09 #1 1/20/09 - 1/15/10  (Read 709011 times)
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« Reply #1880 on: January 04, 2010, 03:00:25 PM »

Sebastian ..I felt that , and I could be wrong, that this woman mentioned in the story was just a Sucker for this S.O.
She probably never knew he was going to attempt to kidnap a 19 year old girl.
Plus everyone at the store knew him from previous BOOZE runs he and his girlfriend had made to the store.. and I gathered from what I had read that SHE drove a vehicle and HE was the passenger.

He may not have a car or license.. Which would really make her a sucker.. lol
He may not actually have a home..

Anyways.. Historically Women like this lie at times for the S.O. perp..
I do not trust her for that reason.

She having a daughter at home.. Gee Wiz..
She is foolish indeed.

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« Reply #1881 on: January 04, 2010, 03:10:58 PM »

Sebastian ..I felt that , and I could be wrong, that this woman mentioned in the story was just a Sucker for this S.O.
She probably never knew he was going to attempt to kidnap a 19 year old girl.
Plus everyone at the store knew him from previous BOOZE runs he and his girlfriend had made to the store.. and I gathered from what I had read that SHE drove a vehicle and HE was the passenger.

He may not have a car or license.. Which would really make her a sucker.. lol
He may not actually have a home..

Anyways.. Historically Women like this lie at times for the S.O. perp..
I do not trust her for that reason.

She having a daughter at home.. Gee Wiz..
She is foolish indeed.



Hi Edward,
When they were arrested, she got in trouble for driving with a suspended license and drugs. I was really hoping that she had just met him at one of the casinos and decided to go get beer with him. Do you know if she was actually his girlfriend? It makes me nuts that she has a child close to Amber's age. She is obviously no longer incarcerated based on her facebook account, but I wonder where he is?
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« Reply #1882 on: January 04, 2010, 03:14:24 PM »

I don't know how to get a map of Cougars Pass. What I wanted to say is this. Many people in the area know about Cougars Pass because of the hiking trails, the partiers that come out at night and it used to be a short cut to Valley Center. You used to be able to take Cougars Pass to Valley Center. However, the person who owned the property making the road accessable got upset at all of the late night activity and trash etc left on his property. He put up a barrier fence so that you can no longer get to Valley Center from Cougars Pass.

If you can give me two cross street names I will map it for you.

Hi Northern Rose!
If you start off at the high school on Broadway and take Broadway north all the way out, you will see where there are two different ways to get up to Cougars Pass. Once on Cougars Pass you can take it all the way to Betsworth. Somewhere before Betsworth is where the gate has been put up so that you can no longer go through to Valley Center. A little bit before you get to Betsworth is where the partiers and such hang out. Someone could have grabbed her and took her up there without ever having to get on the freeway.

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« Reply #1883 on: January 04, 2010, 03:30:51 PM »

Sebastian,
Maybe she did just meet him.. But like you said it would be hard for them to live in Carlsbad previous IF she had just met him.

I am running this whole conversation on memory because I have not read about him for awhile..

I hope LE does go back and take a closer look at him and try to build a search for Amber based on HIM and that area where he/she was noted as living..

Back then when I looked up her home it was in a nice area..

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« Reply #1884 on: January 04, 2010, 03:49:49 PM »

From the area of the high school.. going East.. out of town.
Valley center road to Lilac road.. left, to old castle road .. or further on is, Circle R Dr.
either way left on either..
Both end up at Ormsby st. and the goes Under the freeway.. then you are on the west side of 15 going towards the park named Guamone.


Edward- I made it up to 15 but not sure where you want me to go from here.  The Tower and Hidden Meadows are on the map.  I have taken the circles off the tower and left perimeter pins to show service from the tower.  Where do I go from 15?   Also, please check your email.

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« Reply #1885 on: January 04, 2010, 03:55:27 PM »

Northern Rose .. Could you please mark out those roads on a ping map ?
The girlfriends actual street address would be nice too.. But not at this moment..

I just want to see how close these roads are to the Ping Area mentioned.



I do not know the g/f's address.  Can you please provide?
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« Reply #1886 on: January 04, 2010, 04:03:26 PM »

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« Reply #1887 on: January 04, 2010, 04:10:34 PM »

I do not have it handy.. The g/f street.
I think a news report gave a street name and then I went to the street view off Google to look...
I do not think I ever posted it..

You did A Great job with that green line of roads with the Cell Tower, Northern Rose..
It all looks very centered.. Like a Pattern.
I do not know the ping area of that tower but it all looks right to me...

Turner lake is also an isolated spot with many canyon roads.. Isolated for the most part. Just off to the right of the green line and behind Hidden Meadows community.





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« Reply #1888 on: January 04, 2010, 04:17:44 PM »

I just noticed when I was mapping that the road that goes directly beside the At&T tower is a turn around and truckers park there.  Truckers who have a route have habits of where they stop.  Not saying these guys were there that day but here are some of the trucks that do park there.  Have any of these companies been talked to about seeing anything in that area the day Amber went missing?

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« Reply #1889 on: January 04, 2010, 04:20:43 PM »

That green line is perfect and you do not have to go any further then 15..

The road goes UNDER 15 at that point.. He would never be on the freeway at all with Amber with him..
Lots of spots he could have stopped.
Once you go under 15, I am not sure what path he would take...The green line represents his way out of town and circling his home base at Hidden Meadows.
What he would do with Amber is all a guess..

The map is perfect.

Thank You so much Northern Rose.
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« Reply #1890 on: January 04, 2010, 04:29:36 PM »

Hi Northern Rose!
I was wondering if you could do a mapping of 30012 old hwy 395 #82, escondido, ca 92026. There is a very very bad SO named Merrill Oliver Tracy at that address. His crimes include kidnapping, rape etc. A little bird told me that he may have moved. If so, he has obviously not notified anyone as to his new address. I had done a lot of research on this *&^%. Apparently he came from a large family and there were a lot of kids who got sent to foster homes etc. One of his sisters was looking for him and other siblings on one of the adoption sites.
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« Reply #1891 on: January 04, 2010, 04:41:18 PM »

Hi Northern Rose!
I was wondering if you could do a mapping of 30012 old hwy 395 #82, escondido, ca 92026. There is a very very bad SO named Merrill Oliver Tracy at that address. His crimes include kidnapping, rape etc. A little bird told me that he may have moved. If so, he has obviously not notified anyone as to his new address. I had done a lot of research on this *&^%. Apparently he came from a large family and there were a lot of kids who got sent to foster homes etc. One of his sisters was looking for him and other siblings on one of the adoption sites.

By the way, he lives out in the same area in a trailer park. Most of these trailers are the kind that you take with you. They attach to the back of a truck. They are not permanent. This is the thing that is bothering the heck out of me. I know that LE has their hands full. I have mentioned before that Escondido has a very diverse population and a huge hispanic population. The crime rate is low considering, in my opinion. LE also keeps the gang activity to a minimum. I just cannot figure out though why they are not ALL OVER THESE SO's with Amber missing? I have already told you about the SO with the Halloween decorations, the camera, the one I think is missing in action, the one kissing the little girl on the web. If Merrill Oliver Tracy truly has re-located, where the heck is he and how long has he been gone? It is my understanding that LE only HAS to check in with them once a year? Is there a maximum to the amount of times they can check in without it being harrassment? I just don't get it. I would think that they would be doing a weekly check all them all until Amber is found. I guess it is just wishful thinking on my part.
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« Reply #1892 on: January 04, 2010, 04:49:08 PM »

LE needs to get to that property and do a search in hidden meadows.


Edward when your screen jumps as you are typing you can fix it by hitting the tab by the refresh button that looks like a torn piece of paper. Warning though, copy what you have been working on because you will lose it. That should fix the problem.
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« Reply #1893 on: January 04, 2010, 04:50:45 PM »

Hi Northern Rose!
I was wondering if you could do a mapping of 30012 old hwy 395 #82, escondido, ca 92026. There is a very very bad SO named Merrill Oliver Tracy at that address. His crimes include kidnapping, rape etc. A little bird told me that he may have moved. If so, he has obviously not notified anyone as to his new address. I had done a lot of research on this *&^%. Apparently he came from a large family and there were a lot of kids who got sent to foster homes etc. One of his sisters was looking for him and other siblings on one of the adoption sites.
Ok this is weird.  I looked at this place very early on looking at the red truck angle with the altered tailgate possibly for a trailer.  Here it is.

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« Reply #1894 on: January 04, 2010, 04:52:57 PM »

I'm running backwards a few posts. Someone mentioned a Church short cut that the kids can take to school. This happened on Valentines day, has anyone checked if there was a worker at the church that morning. These SO and killers often seem to hide behind the church.  Did the LE check to see if any SO's worked at the church? Also the Church has a parking lot, where there any cars in the parking lot that morning? Have they ever had a problem with anyone parked cars in the parking lot? 

I read somewhere that they abduct in there own comfort zone. So the perp must have lived, worked or driven that route for a long time. Has anyone ever checked to see if there have been other 7:00 a.m. abductions? Leaving behind no trace is tuff.
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« Reply #1895 on: January 04, 2010, 05:12:30 PM »

I'm running backwards a few posts. Someone mentioned a Church short cut that the kids can take to school. This happened on Valentines day, has anyone checked if there was a worker at the church that morning. These SO and killers often seem to hide behind the church.  Did the LE check to see if any SO's worked at the church? Also the Church has a parking lot, where there any cars in the parking lot that morning? Have they ever had a problem with anyone parked cars in the parking lot? 

I read somewhere that they abduct in there own comfort zone. So the perp must have lived, worked or driven that route for a long time. Has anyone ever checked to see if there have been other 7:00 a.m. abductions? Leaving behind no trace is tuff.

I almost hate to post this as it will add so much more possibilities into the mix. But.........I am pretty sure that Carrie told me that they talked to people at the church and no one saw anything. HOWEVER, I am almost positive that Carrie found out that they hold AA meetings at that time of the morning. I think they talked to some of those people as well.
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« Reply #1896 on: January 04, 2010, 05:16:54 PM »

Reading backwards is very normal for Monkeys to do..  Monkey Devil!

It happened on Feb 13 Friday. The next day was valintines day..Amber did have valintines items with her.

There is a church on Amber s walk to school..All of this is withing the 95 pages of posting and the pictures of amber's walk are in the first 20 pages and pictures of the church too.
We have other cases where church members are involved.. Sandra Cantu is one.
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« Reply #1897 on: January 04, 2010, 05:47:22 PM »

I talked with Carrie and the tower is Verizon and not AT&T
she will get the location and post it for us..

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« Reply #1898 on: January 04, 2010, 09:40:09 PM »

I talked with Carrie and the tower is Verizon and not AT&T
she will get the location and post it for us..



A location would help tons, Long and Lat would be the best but I would settle for anything.  FCC does not require all towers to be registered and a lot of cell companies lease bandwith from existing towers.  Though the tower I was guessing at is registered to AT&T, other carriers do use it to put through their cell service. Here are all the registered cell towers in Escondido.  None of them are registered to Verizon so they have to be leasing bandwidth off one of the other carriers.

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« Reply #1899 on: January 05, 2010, 12:17:39 AM »

I talked with Carrie and the tower is Verizon and not AT&T
she will get the location and post it for us..



A location would help tons, Long and Lat would be the best but I would settle for anything.  FCC does not require all towers to be registered and a lot of cell companies lease bandwith from existing towers.  Though the tower I was guessing at is registered to AT&T, other carriers do use it to put through their cell service. Here are all the registered cell towers in Escondido.  None of them are registered to Verizon so they have to be leasing bandwidth off one of the other carriers.

Hi Northern Rose,
I think Carrie is trying to figure out who Verizon leases from. Do you have any idea?


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