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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois, 14yr, Last seen 02/13/09 #1 1/20/09 - 1/15/10  (Read 441960 times)
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« Reply #240 on: May 14, 2009, 05:41:52 PM »

Can you show the normal pattern that Amber walks to school on a map ?
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« Reply #241 on: May 14, 2009, 06:44:07 PM »

Can you show the normal pattern that Amber walks to school on a map ?

This is what is understood to be Amber's usual route.  "Eyewitnesses" have reported that Amber was last seen walking on the "school side" of Broadway - which means she would've crossed the street at Vista.  The truth is she could have been taken along any point of this route - IMHO
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« Reply #242 on: May 14, 2009, 07:26:43 PM »

Thank You very much... Ampersand

That is a very short walk..

But now I can take that to google earth and map-quest with images and look around..
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« Reply #243 on: May 14, 2009, 07:29:46 PM »

Those who cannot be at the vigil may light a candle here:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Amber



Lighting a candle for Amber Leeanne.
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« Reply #244 on: May 14, 2009, 08:18:47 PM »

Well after 4 attempts I must say my computer at work is garbage..
I will have to do this on google earth when I get home, But I can see where there are a couple of places during this walk to school where she could have been approached on vista without anybody paying attention..A field and a business parking lot where the culprit could have been sitting in his car in wait.. or just drove up next to her and pointed a weapon at her and told her to get in his car.
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« Reply #245 on: May 14, 2009, 10:49:41 PM »

Those who cannot be at the vigil may light a candle here:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Amber



Lighting a candle for Amber Leeanne.

I have these candles glowing on my screen when as often as I can - thank you.
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« Reply #246 on: May 14, 2009, 10:50:51 PM »

Well after 4 attempts I must say my computer at work is garbage..
I will have to do this on google earth when I get home, But I can see where there are a couple of places during this walk to school where she could have been approached on vista without anybody paying attention..A field and a business parking lot where the culprit could have been sitting in his car in wait.. or just drove up next to her and pointed a weapon at her and told her to get in his car.

Better luck at home.  Believe me, I understand your frustration.  Let me know if you see something we may have overlooked.
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« Reply #247 on: May 14, 2009, 11:37:40 PM »

I hope you understand, I do not think any of you have overlooked anything.. 
We are completely on your side..
 You do live in Escondido and WE do not, and I am just trying to get a perspective for all of us so that we can begin to understand what YOU already know all to well. Your streets and town are common to you but many of our members, me included have never been to Escandido.
One thing I am positive of ..
 Some creep was able to get a hold on Amber without anyone seeing it. Having some idea WHERE that may have occurred gives all of us a starting point. I just happened to notice the Business and the playing field with parking lots on both sides of the street..

This is a possible place for an abduction. I am looking at it from the perspective that the other witness who claims to have seen amber may have been incorrect. A rain day, construction trucks that should have construction people near and a very busy street that the high school is located on leads me to consider that the witness MAY have been mistaken.
This photo is of that area on Vista drive... Amber would have to walk through this area to get to the high school..
Amber is 14.. Does the high school run from 8th grade to 12th grade ?



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« Reply #248 on: May 14, 2009, 11:53:04 PM »

In the abve photo on the right side is actually a school parking lot .. What is the name of that school ?
There should have been plenty of people at that school ?

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« Reply #249 on: May 15, 2009, 12:58:06 AM »


Ambers Grandmom
  I want you to know that my heart breaks for you and the entire family. We live not very far from where Amber was last seen. My daughter and I have attempted to find out info on searches in the area on the weekends and didn't have good success with accurate info from Escondido police.  I should have known to check in the forum here but I didn't. Now that I know there is an updated thread here, we will definately want to help. If there is anything that we can do please post the location , time date etc.  My daughter's husband and their family have off road type vehicles (quads, minibikes)  and all of those guys would probably help too.  I'm sorry that we didn't try harder earlier but frankly EPD wasn't very "up" on what was going on and where to find out.  I'll check in here everyday from now on.

Please know that our prayers are with all of you and we want Amber to come home to her loving family.
  janet

Hi Janet -

We have had and will continue to have organized searches every weekend until our Amber is home safely - please refer to www.BringAmberHome.com for continued information regarding searches and other events.  Thank you so much!

Amber's Aunt

Lisa

   Lisa          so very glad to that Amber has so many that love her. The web site is great and will be at the center to help next weekend. My daughter and her husband are going out of town this weekend and I'll be watching the little guys, so we're anxious to help. Good luck this weekend, prayers for Amber's return.
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« Reply #250 on: May 15, 2009, 10:55:15 AM »

Areas of intrest.
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« Reply #251 on: May 15, 2009, 11:00:35 AM »

Amber would have to walk past entry to bus yard to get to school.. Or walk down the bus yard access driveway to go to animal area.

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« Reply #252 on: May 15, 2009, 11:35:02 AM »

Thank you Edward for the maps.  I waited to post incase you had more, I didn't want to get in the middle.  Can you get an estimated spot of the Burgandy truck?  Would the truck have to exit onto N. Broadway or is there an alternate exit?  And also, where was Amber last seen and which direction was she headed.  (I tried to read back and find, I really did!)

TIA, Lovin

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« Reply #253 on: May 15, 2009, 12:53:46 PM »

The bus yard is where the burgundy/red truck was on surveillance video..
Where exactly in that parking lot I am not sure.. BUT In that video the Burgundy/red truck is first seen backing up a long distance before going forward and then parking facing the bus maintenance yard, where we see a man walking around.. Also the small white car that comes into the bus parking yard..
WHY was the pickup backing up like that ?? then drives forward and parks.. Like he was trying to get something under control while he was parked out of view of others ??
Like trying to get Amber under control ??

One of the posters at web sleuths has some very good still images of the white car and the man walking in the bus yard. I know he/said said the images were sent to the family, I do not think it would be polite of me to bring the images over here without that posters permission.

That white car may have seen the occupant of the burgundy/red pick up and the man walking appears to be behind the bus and may not have had any view of the pickup in question.
The area appears to be very busy..

One thought I had is IF Amber went to the animal yard before going to school, it appears she would have to walk through this bus area parking lot to get to the animal area. The spot behind the baseball stadium looks to be a vulnerable spot for her if that was so.
The main street looks very busy with houses across the street and possible many people walking to school..
 
So that leaves 2 possible locations for somebody to approach amber and threaten her to get into a vehicle. One on Vista, although that also appears to be a school.. and the other location near the animal area.. Both spots could be out of view of others under the correct circumstances..

I do believe somebody has seen something.. The white car..The houses across the street.. the parking lots on vista Dr. There must be some sort of witness who has not considered what they witnessed as having something to do with this case yet. I pray they come to some sort of awareness to what they may have seen and call it into police. 
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« Reply #254 on: May 15, 2009, 01:29:56 PM »

El Cajon Police Records Division
http://www.elcajonpolice.org/faq/records_reports.html
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« Reply #255 on: May 15, 2009, 02:10:22 PM »

I have been trying to monitor stolen vehicle reports from San Diego to San Bernadino. As well as any attempted abductions or assults on Minors..

This was back on march 25 2009..

Parents in the Poway Unified School District are on the lookout for a suspicious white van. The van was seen recently stalking a first grader and a seventh grader.

Sabre Springs resident Brett Hanavan keeps track of crime in his area through a neighborhood watch email string. Recently he started to see a pattern.

"Seems like there's been some similar situations with a white van - the same details, the same suspicious nature," Hanavan said.

Two recent incidents involving a white Ford van with three Hispanic men inside happened in Torrey Highlands. On March 12, the mother of a seven-year-old girl dropped off by a school bus near Torrey Meadows Drive and Torrey Santa Fe Road reported the white van following her daughter.

"The van was noticed by one of the moms. The kid escaped to the mom, and the van took off allegedly ran a red light in doing so," Hanavan said.

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10072355

It is not the Red pick up truck, but 3 months ago there was talk of the white van and the article and ALL the user comments are interesting and educational to read and be aware of..
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« Reply #256 on: May 15, 2009, 02:12:40 PM »

Child stalking and abduction incidents.. San Diego area..
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107792725227373756468.000465d184cb91081a7fd&ll=32.965179,-117.108765&spn=0.143448,0.219727&z=12





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« Reply #257 on: May 15, 2009, 02:15:48 PM »

Is it that I do not know how to spell or is it that my big fingers keep hitting the wrong keys..
I will let you decide ...

Why can't I have a edit button for my posts on this forum ? 




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« Reply #258 on: May 15, 2009, 02:16:31 PM »

I hope you understand, I do not think any of you have overlooked anything.. 
We are completely on your side..
 You do live in Escondido and WE do not, and I am just trying to get a perspective for all of us so that we can begin to understand what YOU already know all to well. Your streets and town are common to you but many of our members, me included have never been to Escandido.
One thing I am positive of ..
 Some creep was able to get a hold on Amber without anyone seeing it. Having some idea WHERE that may have occurred gives all of us a starting point. I just happened to notice the Business and the playing field with parking lots on both sides of the street..

This is a possible place for an abduction. I am looking at it from the perspective that the other witness who claims to have seen amber may have been incorrect. A rain day, construction trucks that should have construction people near and a very busy street that the high school is located on leads me to consider that the witness MAY have been mistaken.
This photo is of that area on Vista drive... Amber would have to walk through this area to get to the high school..
Amber is 14.. Does the high school run from 8th grade to 12th grade ?


Don't get me wrong - we appreciate fresh eyes and perspectives looking at everything!     Personally, I have not lived in Escondido for years - I am in Orange County
I concur with your observation that the witnesses may have been mistaken, not only was it busy and rainy - Amber was wearing a hoodie and more likely than not - may have had the hood on due to the precipitation - we don't know.  EHS is 9-12 I believe - Amber is in 9th grade.
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« Reply #259 on: May 15, 2009, 02:17:15 PM »

A historical crime blotter..

http://www.cbs8.com/global/category.asp?c=154776
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