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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois, 14yr, Last seen 02/13/09 #1 1/20/09 - 1/15/10  (Read 446950 times)
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« Reply #400 on: May 20, 2009, 12:36:57 PM »

Cool! Now I have experience with awareness campaigns, not of this sort but they are all the same in principal if you ask me. As I have written on the Sandra Cantu thread....One clear message which answers the basic marketing questions.

1. what is the product (or message)
2. How  will it work for me (why should I care)
3. and why do I need it, (How can I help or what should I say in this case.)
All the while tugging on emotions.

So, you have an entire area to draw from. The more people writing and getting the attention the better, obviously. Making it as easy as possible for people is what will be needed. Not that people are lazy, but their time is limited.

Lets put a sample letter together so people have something to draw from and gather idea's from. It needs to be short, precise and to the point. the people reading these things read thousands of things  day. We need to use language which grabs them and grabs emotional strings. With the media, we use their need for ratings to our advantage. We make the story as compelling and heart wrenching as we can. (I know this sounds terrible but it is reality). After we do this, we ask everyone we know to help! People want to help, most people don't know what to do. 

Another idea is an online petition to politicians and also to the media as a cry for attention for this story. these are easy to get siggys for as long as it is something people care about, and they will care about this story.

I am sure other monkey's will have far more advice to offer, can anyone think of other things and ways to draw attention? Or maybe correct any of the suggestions I have made? I want to get this right.

This is great information - I'm working on the sample letter - I'll keep you posted!
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« Reply #401 on: May 20, 2009, 12:40:50 PM »

Ampersand your photo comparisons are amazing..

I did just get a call from the detective in Auburn ..
He told me to contact detectives in Placer county sheriff department as they have the attempted abduction case although he was amazed at the comparison photo.
He said when the attempted abduction occurred, he himself and half his force drove all over the area checking every red 4 door truck they had come across. Never found the guy..
Nobody has identified the truck yet..

Edward - thank you - I really just put together what seemed obvious to me - anything to bring Amber home.  We're working independently on more data as well - I'll release the information as soon as I'm authorized - you understand ~ 
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« Reply #402 on: May 20, 2009, 02:29:32 PM »

In Theory ..Yes I am crazy...
 Just something to consider and maybe throw out.

IF it is the same suspects as in the San Bernardino kidnap of the 3 year old boy..
 Which had a Blue Bronco, although that could have been anyone's vehicle, they could have borrowed it or both men have a vehicle of there own..

Also in Theory..That these 2 men actually are members of a cartel out of Mexico and sometimes can be referred to as the Mexican Mafia..
Then they would be runners.. soldiers..
Given task and accomplishing missions handed to them by others..
While they are in between JOBS .. We see various incidents of them inside of America attacking innocent girls.. In Serial behaviors.
FACT: These cartel gang members have often times been trained by ex military personal. It is a fact that members are put through boot camps designed to make them into soldiers and trained to murder, kidnap and extort information through torture.. They are terrorists.

In news media reports
A white van .. seen from San Diego to Los Angeles with 2 or 3 different males attempting to get females into the van, I have read 6 different incidents of this van..
A blue Bronco seen in one abduction of a 3 year old boy in San bernardino
A maroon or red 4 door pick up seen in Escondido to Sacramento/Auburn

So assuming this may be who has taken Amber..
What would have been there route if they had Business relative to Drugs in San Bernardino and someplace like Reno  and they wanted to stay off the main highway system and out of view of police..

So again in theory ..

After the abduction of Amber in Escondido What direction may they take.. ?

These soldiers stay at other cartel/ gang members homes ? There are gang/cartel members everywhere.. They stay with there own kind arranged through contacts..
 
Here is a direction tahat would take them north of escondido and headding for San Bernadino

1. Head west on CA-78 W  295 ft
2. Take the exit onto I-15 N toward Riverside  31.2 mi
3. Slight right at I-215 N (signs for San Bernardino/I-215/Riverside)  35.0 mi
4. Take the exit onto I-215 N  20.6 mi
5. Merge onto I-15 N  15.0 mi
6. Exit onto US-395 toward Bishop/Adelanto
Entering Nevada  392 mi
7. Continue on N Carson St  2.3 mi
8. Take the ramp onto N Carson St/US-395
Continue to follow US-395  17.7 mi
9. Take the ramp to N Reno  0.6 mi
10. Merge onto US-395 N  8.9 mi
11. Take exit 68 to merge onto I-80 W toward Reno  1.9 mi
12. Take exit 13 toward Virginia St  0.2 mi
13. Merge onto E 8th St  0.1 mi
14. Turn left at US-395/N Virginia St  0.3 mi

 Reno, NV 

 Then they take 50 or 80 into Auburn and after the failed attempt on the girl in Auburn they drive down 5 all the way to Mexico and drop the boy off in the streets of Mexicali after hearing how hot he is..
They are not stupid.. and now they hide and reside in a Mexico home base again..

Look at map here..

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GGIC_enUS317US317&q=map%20escondido%20to%20reno&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl

It is just something to consider.. All in theory.
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« Reply #403 on: May 20, 2009, 02:37:40 PM »

OK .. That whole thing completely failed !! map directions and all..

Back to the drawing board.. 
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« Reply #404 on: May 20, 2009, 04:09:39 PM »


Oh Edward.. LOL    We all know how you feel.  With all confidence in you, I'll be back in a while, and I'll bet you have those maps up for us.

Thanks for all the work you do for the missing and their families.   an angelic monkey

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« Reply #405 on: May 20, 2009, 04:20:16 PM »

I will have to do it tonight after I get home.. This computer at work does not cooperate with me at times.. lol

But the route is direct from escondido to San bernardino then out through victorville across the desert floor and up 395 through Bishop and the mountain range ..Out of sight and out of the minds of police as most all searches were being done in south California for the boy and Mexico..meanwhile they are probably in Reno or some place like that and they drop the bronco and travel only in the red pickup as they come down 80 into auburn area.. Then it is straight down 5 to Mexico and home free in Mexicali.
 The search for Amber should follow that path between Escondido and San Bernadino ?
I do not think they had Amber with them when they had posetion of the boy..
A officer or his mom could show the photos of amber to the boy to see if she was with them..
Anyways it was just an idea..

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« Reply #406 on: May 20, 2009, 05:58:31 PM »

Placer County Sheriff office..

530-889-7800  #4
2929 Richardson Dr.
Auburn California 95603


 
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« Reply #407 on: May 20, 2009, 10:58:36 PM »

Ampersand your photo comparisons are amazing..

I did just get a call from the detective in Auburn ..
He told me to contact detectives in Placer county sheriff department as they have the attempted abduction case although he was amazed at the comparison photo.
He said when the attempted abduction occurred, he himself and half his force drove all over the area checking every red 4 door truck they had come across. Never found the guy..
Nobody has identified the truck yet..

I have no idea if this is in any way related to Amber's disappearance - but I do so appreciate Monkey eyes, evaulation and input so here it is:

It has been reported that the driver of a "red" crew cab pickup has allegedly been involved in two child molestations at different super stores in San Diego county -

http://www.kusi.com/home/45549497.html

You may need to cut and paste the URL to make it work.

Again - Monkey input is so greatly appreciated.

Edward - I do hope none of my previous postings were "out of bounds" - it is certainly not my intent. 

Thanks!   

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« Reply #408 on: May 20, 2009, 10:59:55 PM »

I probably should've written "driver" instead of "owner"

Fixed. 
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« Reply #409 on: May 21, 2009, 12:22:43 AM »

You are wonderful Ampersand for giving us the opportunity to assist..

There are members here who can do wonders with this video as in getting snap shots and posting it of both the man in the video and possibly his license plate number.
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« Reply #410 on: May 21, 2009, 12:25:57 AM »

http://www.kusi.com/home/45549497.html?video=YHI&t=a
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« Reply #411 on: May 21, 2009, 09:33:43 AM »

I'm wondering about the description "red".  If I said I saw a red pickup, I would mean fire engine red.  If I saw a maroon pickup, I would describe it as maroon or burgundy.  I think either some people can't see the difference in color, or don't know how to describe it properly.  In the video of the truck at the bus garage, did the truck have a lockable tool compartment in the back like the truck at Walmart?  Definitely something that someone in the construction business would have. 

Ambersand & Ambersgrandmom ~ I'm sending you a special hug today.  I think of you and Amber all of the time and pray.  May God give you strength and bring Amber home. 
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« Reply #412 on: May 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM »

Here are the Web Sleuths images courtesy of member, Cloudajo



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« Reply #413 on: May 21, 2009, 12:11:46 PM »

Sorry the pics didn't post. Page 16 #307 there is still photos from the truck at the school.
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« Reply #414 on: May 21, 2009, 12:17:10 PM »

I did a comparison, zooming in on both trucks, I don't think they are the same. The walmart truck does not have the same chrome on the sides from what I can tell.
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« Reply #415 on: May 21, 2009, 12:48:58 PM »

Hi Ampersand

 Has anything turned up in last weeks search or any new leads come up in the last week ?
 You do not have to go into detail if not permitted but just wondering..

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« Reply #416 on: May 21, 2009, 01:07:37 PM »

I'm wondering about the description "red".  If I said I saw a red pickup, I would mean fire engine red.  If I saw a maroon pickup, I would describe it as maroon or burgundy.  I think either some people can't see the difference in color, or don't know how to describe it properly.  In the video of the truck at the bus garage, did the truck have a lockable tool compartment in the back like the truck at Walmart?  Definitely something that someone in the construction business would have. 

Ambersand & Ambersgrandmom ~ I'm sending you a special hug today.  I think of you and Amber all of the time and pray.  May God give you strength and bring Amber home. 

Firstly, from my mom and I - thank you and hugs back!  Secondly - I agree - Fire Engine Red - is a universally known color.  Maroon and burgundy are more difficult to pin down or differentiate between - but it definately rules out "fire engine red" - if that makes any sense?  We had several email tips regarding this new video from the superstore parking lot and I thought it was worth reviewing since chrome accessories can be easily added or removed.

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« Reply #417 on: May 21, 2009, 01:10:12 PM »

Hi Ampersand

 Has anything turned up in last weeks search or any new leads come up in the last week ?
 You do not have to go into detail if not permitted but just wondering..

Thanks 

Edward - We're pushing very hard to have more descriptive information to provide - and we hope that will be very soon.  The minute I have anything - I'll post it here - I guarantee!   
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« Reply #418 on: May 21, 2009, 01:28:38 PM »

I look for patterns of behavior..

The one pattern that keeps on top in my mind is the early morning abduction attack on the 16 year old girl in El Cajon.
I think early morning abductions are rare..

He was also in a stolen vehicle.. whicah means he could be driving anything on the day amber disappears..

 
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« Reply #419 on: May 21, 2009, 02:44:25 PM »

I look for patterns of behavior..

The one pattern that keeps on top in my mind is the early morning abduction attack on the 16 year old girl in El Cajon.
I think early morning abductions are rare..

He was also in a stolen vehicle.. whicah means he could be driving anything on the day amber disappears..
 

Edward - I'm sorry - I'm totally blanking on the details of the El Cajon attack - can you provide a link?  Thank you!
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