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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois, 14yr, Last seen 02/13/09 #1 1/20/09 - 1/15/10  (Read 456320 times)
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« Reply #700 on: May 25, 2009, 10:11:22 PM »

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« Reply #701 on: May 25, 2009, 10:49:12 PM »

Bringing Amber's candles forward

Light Amber's way home:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Amber

Amber's website:
http://www.bringamberhome.com/



Thinking and praying for Amber and her family.
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« Reply #702 on: May 26, 2009, 12:37:42 AM »


what does BUMP mean?
It is a way of moving posts forward for easy access or for important information that might have gotten over looked.

you mean someone reads the word "BUMP" and understands that perhaps action is required? Sorry, I just want to understand...
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« Reply #703 on: May 26, 2009, 01:16:57 AM »

Thank you Monkey Goddesses and gods for the repair to the above post.
 It appears if you click on that link you can now see the route of 16.1 miles and 22 minutes with a blue line ...
 This route would take them in front of the high school and she made be tied up and unable to communicate.
 Take a look it at and zoom in a little and use the birds eye buttons, then you can use the tools to show other possible travel routes..
You can Create your own possible route..

The link above represents a possible route to me ..

I think personally, that he drove out away from the high school .. the opposite direction .. which is different then the link.

It would also mean the perpetrator knows the area very well.
If it was the same person as in the previous park murder then he may be thinking he will hide her better this time..
But, Not the same park.. and a person can get to this destination from 2 directions, one far more rural then the other.

Just a thought.

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« Reply #704 on: May 26, 2009, 01:18:13 AM »


Hi Edward, sorry, I guess I missed what this is about.  What is at Guajome Lake Rd?

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« Reply #705 on: May 26, 2009, 02:03:36 AM »

It is an area of interest to me.. A Park
As there is 2 roads going through it and it has multiple water areas.. very rural at some spots,
 and a person does not look unusual parking a vehicle at a park driving around or sitting..

You can use the map to get some fantastic photos using the birds eye view feather when close up..

The geology of the area leaves very few places a hole can be dug with ease.
I am using a 20 mile radius and looking for possible locations.. using a north of Escondido half circle.

I do realize she could be anywhere in the world, but thinking that is rare and placed within a area is common.
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« Reply #706 on: May 26, 2009, 02:29:50 AM »

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=33.219159~-117.105331&style=h&lvl=11&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&rtp=pos.33.1510334763306_-117.087938526291_Paradise%20St%2C%20Escondido%2C%20CA%2092026__~pos.33.2382959731667_-117.254472198634_Guajome%20Lake%20Rd%2C%20Vista%2C%20CA%2092084__&rtop=0~0~0&trfc=1&sp=Point.pj6xbx56t50w_PARK____~Point.pj5t2w56v81k_PARK____~Point.pj7xqx573dbf_GOPHER%20CANYON____~Point.pjn1wm5735kp_PALA%20ROAD____~Point.phycs55777n6_JESMOND%20PARK____~Point.phrmgm578dsn_AMBERS%20HOME____~Point.phrfg6577ysk_ANIMAL%20AREA%20OF%20SCHOOL____~Polyline.phsvzv5784p8_phyykd578s6g_pj302t577ygw_pj5vcm579vns_pj8b9s579vns_pj8dx7578b2h_pj7r725774jg_pj8b9s576kjn_pj7w3f574znv_pj7mbv573dj5_pj7w3f572ts6_pj87r856zbgn_pj6yzc56xy03_pj2gkg56y12s_pj31ck56wfz4_pj5xz356w5g7_pj5rsz56w8jy_pj5qh756w8jy_away%20from%20school%20rural____%23FF0000_%23008000_2pt_Single_Solid_pj7r72574631_&encType=1

This links shows the major travel route in green and then the 2 possible routes one in blue which would travel in front of the school and the second in red that would go away from the school red line also drives past the first park we have been writing about.All of this to the north and just one of many possible locations..
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« Reply #707 on: May 26, 2009, 09:48:08 AM »

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« Reply #708 on: May 26, 2009, 06:20:55 PM »

It is an area of interest to me.. A Park
As there is 2 roads going through it and it has multiple water areas.. very rural at some spots,
 and a person does not look unusual parking a vehicle at a park driving around or sitting..

You can use the map to get some fantastic photos using the birds eye view feather when close up..

The geology of the area leaves very few places a hole can be dug with ease.
I am using a 20 mile radius and looking for possible locations.. using a north of Escondido half circle.

I do realize she could be anywhere in the world, but thinking that is rare and placed within a area is common.

thank you Edward; I think that might be a very good place to look also. 
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« Reply #709 on: May 26, 2009, 06:57:27 PM »

New video/collage of Amber - posted today by her Mom - my sister Carrie. 

http://vimeo.com/4848395

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« Reply #710 on: May 26, 2009, 06:58:53 PM »

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« Reply #711 on: May 26, 2009, 07:05:17 PM »

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Iím sorry for posting this here, but Blink, is there any chance you can help with the Amber Dubois case in Escondido, California? It seems as if there is a link between the suspect in two child molestation cases at Walmart stores in San Diego, which is near Escondido. (See links below for more information about these links).

Amberís family desperately needs national exposure to help bring her home. Also, the more people who view coverage of the suspect, the more likely someone will come forward with information about him.

Please, please, please help!

Thank you Blink, for all that you do!

Here are links to recent media regarding Amber and the child molestation cases:

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10419108

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/25/1m25amber235228-police-investigate-possible-link-b

bluebird- I have been in contact with Amberís Family and we are due to connect with some additional assets tomorrow. There is a possibility NG will do a tracker update on her case tomorrow, cant promise anything but I spoke with them today on Amberís case.
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Hey Monkeys-

I wanted to address the burgundy truck issue briefly.

Sadly, I don't think the Walmart molestor with the burgundy truck is in any way related to Amber's case. Not only do I not think it is the same truck, but this offender is not even in the same zip code.

You have a 5 and 6 year old female, in a very large public place; which apparently the subject either works at, is a vendor of, or just a pedophilic stalker ( although I dont get how a strange 6' man gets access to these little kids, what am I missing that goes on in these places?)

If we agree this is a stranger abduction, and that is my personal feeling, it was not random, and it was not by chance he came upon Amber, then we also have to agree the offender falls into a different category than the above subject.

I do believe Edward is correct that the route is the key. Sadly, to my knowledge, I dont hear anyone ruling out the possible date connection to the other female victim. My question is what is missing from that victim? It may tell us something.

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« Reply #712 on: May 26, 2009, 07:09:34 PM »

New video/collage of Amber - posted today by her Mom - my sister Carrie. 

http://vimeo.com/4848395

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Amber Dubois from Carrie MCGonigle on Vimeo.

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« Reply #713 on: May 26, 2009, 07:43:33 PM »

Ampersand...    Thank you for showing us the video collage of Amber.  Carrie must have suffered so much selecting pictures for this, but it makes us all feel much closer to Amber.  It is wonderful. 

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« Reply #714 on: May 26, 2009, 07:44:53 PM »

I agree Blink, there could be a connection.
We have seen coincidences in other cases..
Maybe that is all this is too. But it needs to be checked out. Where exactly in that park was the body found ?
 It appeared to be a robbery, but possible she was murdered for other reasons.. she was wearing her same clothes, so they did not think there was a sex attack.. But there could have been and he used a condom and then made her put her clothes back on..
He may have attacked her elsewhere and made her walk to her death spot. If he did do that he can make a victim walk a long way before the murder..



More time needs to be spent following the footsteps of the victim. 
There appears to be a pattern with the Park murder suspect.
We would normally look 100 yards from parking areas..  But if it is the same guy maybe he decides to make his victim walk much further.. That worries me..


This other character "williams" who attacked the 16 year old girl in ElCajon is not the same guy..  BUT and grand-mom is checking into this Williams may have been on that train !! and if he was and made idol contact with Amber he may have gotten enough information to know where Amber lives.. The only thing I question on Williams is the cell phone message call the next day NORTH.. Williams is from the south of Escondido
 
I think we have 2 completely different suspects at this point.
Both may be the wrong suspect.

The molester with the red truck has his face clear as a bell on video and his truck license plate number should have been identified by now I would think..
It does not appear to be the same truck, but with surveillance video who knows. It would be good to arrest him for his crimes.. BUT I do no think he is our culprit because he is a chicken little boy touching innocent children and what we are looking for is a Violent personality who is willing to kidnap and possibly murder.


I naivete forget Amber could be alive.. She could be victim and held.. Sooner or later she will fall into the stockholm syndrome and then she will not try to escape.
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« Reply #715 on: May 26, 2009, 07:46:18 PM »

Edward ...  The map of the possible abduction route makes it very clear.  This seems a real possibility. 

Thanks.     

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« Reply #716 on: May 26, 2009, 07:49:38 PM »

New video/collage of Amber - posted today by her Mom - my sister Carrie. 

http://vimeo.com/4848395

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<object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4848395&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4848395&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/4848395">Amber Dubois</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1811465">Carrie MCGonigle</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
Thank you so very much for sharing this video with us.  I hope that whoever has taken this child sees she is someones baby, she is missed, and her family so desperately wants her home. 
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« Reply #717 on: May 26, 2009, 08:00:55 PM »

I think so to Chi, but it is just an idea..

 Bringing up the train ride really gives more possible men Amber could have or may have come in contact with..
I realize there were many text messages talking to grand-mom on that train ride..
never the less..

The dark boy walking next to Amber ..  That report bugs me.. The boy not stepping forward.. That bugs me..

We need an ELE investigator at Amtrak with a warrant looking at surveillance video when Amber went for that ride and he should have many pictures of Williams with him. Just hoping Williams is on video in that train station..

He must be ruled in or out .. There is no picture of Williams yet..
So I can't let go of his neck until I know. 

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« Reply #718 on: May 26, 2009, 08:03:23 PM »

There is 2 train trips correct ?
One to dads home and one more back to Amber's home ?
2 dates = 2 rides = 2 train stations ? or more ?
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« Reply #719 on: May 26, 2009, 09:18:18 PM »

There is 2 train trips correct ?
One to dads home and one more back to Amber's home ?
2 dates = 2 rides = 2 train stations ? or more ?

Oceanside to Fullerton to Dad's and then return from Fullerton Station to Oceanside Station.
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