Natalee Case Discussion #803 2/25/09 - 3/1/09

[Magnolia]

I think I will call it a night.  I still have a little more last minute packing to do and ... getting together our passports and extended medical info.

Good Night Monkeys.  Good Night Zookeepers.

Janet
7:45 PM PT

I hope that you have a wonderful weekend and enjoy The Lion King.
Sleep well and dream big.

[2NJSons_Mom]

KTF,

Talk to us. 

[snoopy]

The research that you all are doing is very important.  I know that I sure appreciate it.  I want answers.  I want to know who harmed Natalee, who disposed of her, who covered it up, where she is,  and if dishonorable things happened with the search which I believe it did then I want to know who was involved in that too.  Don't let up.

[Magnolia]

KTF, it has been lonely this afternoon without you!!

[texasmom]

11/21/07 - Re-arrests based on "new evidence" resulting from Dutch 'cold-case' investigators

11/29/07 - Lazlo @ RU posts:  "No one from the OM has claimed the new evidence was Joran talking to Kalpoes, but Joran talking to a friend. IMO"

11/30/07 - Persistence leaves Louisiana
12/01/07 - Kalpoes released, no charges, no new evidence
12/07/07 - Joran ordered released, no charges, no new evidence
12/15/07 - Persistence arrives late; was delayed by storm
12/20/07 - Caplocks registers
12/??/07 - "Shortly before Christmas" - ALE Detective/brother meet with Persistence crew
12/22/07 - Persistence crew builds a 'local material trap' to test the sensing equipment
12/25/07 - TRAP FOUND
12/29/07 - ROV dive
12/30/07 - Meeting on the Persistence
12/30/07 - Trahan dive (we've only seen the one done for the Dateline camera)
01/07/08 - TRAP CLEANED OUT BY ONLY ALE DIVERS
01/10/08 - 1st day of taping the Range Rover confessions w/Patrick

<snip>

Edit to add 11-29 hinkiness

Looking good Lifesong!  Your timeline is a Godsend to me.

Janet
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Ockham's Razor
You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity

Thanks, Janet, I am familiar with Ockham's Razor.

I apologize if I've upset you, hasn't been my intention.

Lifesong ... NOBODY has upset me.

I was just sharing that I was have a difficult time comprehending where all this research is going to fit into the Natalee Holloway case and ... that seem to upset Keepthefaith. It was never my intention to offend or undermine all his research or the research of others regarding the topic.   I just wanted to understand.  Lifesong ... I wished I had said nothing.

Janet.

I don't think Janet meant to upset anyone, or to suggest that the research should stop. 

I hope everyone will chalk it up to a misunderstanding, and carry on.

No one has done anything wrong, and light is being shed on some very shady business practices IMO.

I appreciate all of the time and effort by everyone here, to shed light on any and all aspects/people involved in this case; and the Persistence mission.

 

Lifesong and Keepthefaith......Janet used to scare me really bad. 

I have become braver and I am not so afraid anymore.

I understand her more.

Me too!   

Just kidding Janet!   

I'm still skeerd of ya sometimes!   

Woooohoooo, I'm stackin' it up till KTF speaks!!!!   

[snoopy]

KTF don't make me come up there. lol 

[cajun miracle]

I found all of these addresses around the Houston area for Timothy D.Trahan

Background Report for Timothy D. Trahan

LOCATIONS FOR TIMOTHY D. TRAHAN:
5 Addresses in Houston, TX
3 Addresses in Lake Arthur, LA
2 Addresses in Kaplan, LA
1 Address in League City, TX
 
 RELATIVES OF TIMOTHY TRAHAN:
Shelva Trahan  wife
 alias used Tim Trahan


 
 
COMPLETE REPORT INCLUDES (WHEN AVAILABLE):
 

I looked in my area phonebook and found 1 in Abbeville, LA. but not any in Kaplan, LA. Both of these small cities are near New Iberia, LA.

Cajun Miracle

Hi Cajun,
I found those from Zaba search.  At the time we were looking into which Tim Trahan was which.
I just thought they might be helpful in the PO Box search.

I think that Tamikosmom has it right and he's from Lake Arthur, LA. in SW Louisiana.

[texasmom]

I feel so bad.  I never meant to offend Keepthefaith.  Hey ... he has been my rock on the forum as far as support.

I do not know what else I can say.  I just do not know how to make things right.

Janet

It's o.k. Janet, it was just a misunderstanding!  No worries, I'm gonna start stackin' quotes and beggin' till KTF forgets all about it!  And then I'll work on Lifesong too!!!!! 

I'm a ravin' maniac stackaholic!    

Woooohoooooo!!!!!!!   

[texasmom]

I think I will call it a night.  I still have a little more last minute packing to do and ... getting together our passports and extended medical info.

Good Night Monkeys.  Good Night Zookeepers.

Janet
7:45 PM PT

Hope you have a great trip, hurry back!

Goodnight Janet!   

[Lifesong]

I'm ok guys, thanks.  I'm not going anywhere and I'll never stop until justice is served.   

The link to "He Who Shall Not Be Named"'s post just freaked me out a little. 

The last thing I want to do is distract from the mission...and it does hurt a bit to imagine someone you respect may suspect you of being somehow associated with any fool run amuck on some twisted internet power-trip.

I hope its just my mistake, but I'll be a more cautious going forward.

Magnolia - how long did it take to stop being scared of her?   

Janet - if I didn't care it wouldn't matter to me what you think.

San - you can keep your hat on!   

[texasmom]

11/21/07 - Re-arrests based on "new evidence" resulting from Dutch 'cold-case' investigators

11/29/07 - Lazlo @ RU posts:  "No one from the OM has claimed the new evidence was Joran talking to Kalpoes, but Joran talking to a friend. IMO"

11/30/07 - Persistence leaves Louisiana
12/01/07 - Kalpoes released, no charges, no new evidence
12/07/07 - Joran ordered released, no charges, no new evidence
12/15/07 - Persistence arrives late; was delayed by storm
12/20/07 - Caplocks registers
12/??/07 - "Shortly before Christmas" - ALE Detective/brother meet with Persistence crew
12/22/07 - Persistence crew builds a 'local material trap' to test the sensing equipment
12/25/07 - TRAP FOUND
12/29/07 - ROV dive
12/30/07 - Meeting on the Persistence
12/30/07 - Trahan dive (we've only seen the one done for the Dateline camera)
01/07/08 - TRAP CLEANED OUT BY ONLY ALE DIVERS
01/10/08 - 1st day of taping the Range Rover confessions w/Patrick

<snip>

Edit to add 11-29 hinkiness

Looking good Lifesong!  Your timeline is a Godsend to me.

Janet
______

Ockham's Razor
You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity

Thanks, Janet, I am familiar with Ockham's Razor.

I apologize if I've upset you, hasn't been my intention.

Lifesong ... NOBODY has upset me.

I was just sharing that I was have a difficult time comprehending where all this research is going to fit into the Natalee Holloway case and ... that seem to upset Keepthefaith. It was never my intention to offend or undermine all his research or the research of others regarding the topic.   I just wanted to understand.  Lifesong ... I wished I had said nothing.

Janet.

I don't think Janet meant to upset anyone, or to suggest that the research should stop. 

I hope everyone will chalk it up to a misunderstanding, and carry on.

No one has done anything wrong, and light is being shed on some very shady business practices IMO.

I appreciate all of the time and effort by everyone here, to shed light on any and all aspects/people involved in this case; and the Persistence mission.

 

Lifesong and Keepthefaith......Janet used to scare me really bad. 

I have become braver and I am not so afraid anymore.

I understand her more.

Me too!   

Just kidding Janet!   

I'm still skeerd of ya sometimes!   

Woooohoooo, I'm stackin' it up till KTF speaks!!!!   

OK KTF, I'm in danger of gettin' in trouble with the mods here, and you know how I like to stay in the good graces of the mods!!!!  If I add one more to this stack, billb's gonna appear I just know it!!!!!  Don't make me call out billb!  Come out, come out, and talk KTF....Don't make me start a countdown!!!!!  You are much better at those than I am....it will be ugly if you force me to start a countdown......Now come on out and post RIGHT NOW....!!!!!!


Pretty please....with sugar on top!!!!!   

[wreck]

I'm ok guys, thanks.  I'm not going anywhere and I'll never stop until justice is served.   

The link to "He Who Shall Not Be Named"'s post just freaked me out a little. 

The last thing I want to do is distract from the mission...and it does hurt a bit to imagine someone you respect may suspect you of being somehow associated with any fool run amuck on some twisted internet power-trip.

I hope its just my mistake, but I'll be a more cautious going forward.

Magnolia - how long did it take to stop being scared of her?   

Janet - if I didn't care it wouldn't matter to me what you think.

San - you can keep your hat on!   

That song was from "9 1/2 Weeks" wasn't it?????     

[texasmom]

I'm ok guys, thanks.  I'm not going anywhere and I'll never stop until justice is served.   

The link to "He Who Shall Not Be Named"'s post just freaked me out a little. 

The last thing I want to do is distract from the mission...and it does hurt a bit to imagine someone you respect may suspect you of being somehow associated with any fool run amuck on some twisted internet power-trip.

I hope its just my mistake, but I'll be a more cautious going forward.

Magnolia - how long did it take to stop being scared of her?   

Janet - if I didn't care it wouldn't matter to me what you think.

San - you can keep your hat on!   

That song was from "9 1/2 Weeks" wasn't it?????     

 

[Keepthefaith]

Janet,as well as all Monkey's should ask question's.That's why i appreciate Scared Monkey's.Complete transparency.I know,that if i'm not on track,i can trust and have complete FAITH that the Monkey's will keep me focused!Did Janet's post confuse me a bit?Absolutely.I was aware of Stovall working for Underwater but,was unaware that he was taken over to Legacy Offshore!Sometimes this stuff doesn't make sense to me when i first look at it but putting it out there is the important thing.I know if another Monkey comes across something it could make sense later.

Me personally.I don't believe these POS went down their without an incentive.Were Silvetti,Schaefer and Trahan in complete agreement on an incentive?All these POS got something outta this.I'm hoping i can continue to contribute to one day finding out what the incentive was for each and everyone of these Traitor's.

Always remember.I have much love for the Monkey cage and the participants as long as the goal is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.If that means questioning me!Do it every day.That's what seeking justice is all about!Keep me focused!Also.Remember.I'm as loyal as they come and will defend each and every monkey to no end!I think many have seen that...

OK.I'll shut up! I hope LifeSong doesn't go anywhere as well!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Lifesong,

Glad you are hanging around.  Your efforts are appreciated...can you tell? 

 

[texasmom]

Thanks Lifesong and KTF!!!!! 

 

[snoopy]

Janet,as well as all Monkey's should ask question's.That's why i appreciate Scared Monkey's.Complete transparency.I know,that if i'm not on track,i can trust and have complete FAITH that the Monkey's will keep me focused!Did Janet's post confuse me a bit?Absolutely.I was aware of Stovall working for Underwater but,was unaware that he was taken over to Legacy Offshore!Sometimes this stuff doesn't make sense to me when i first look at it but putting it out there is the important thing.I know if another Monkey comes across something it could make sense later.

Me personally.I don't believe these POS went down their without an incentive.Were Silvetti,Schaefer and Trahan in complete agreement on an incentive?All these POS got something outta this.I'm hoping i can continue to contribute to one day finding out what the incentive was for each and everyone of these Traitor's.

Always remember.I have much love for the Monkey cage and the participants as long as the goal is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.If that means questioning me!Do it every day.That's what seeking justice is all about!Keep me focused!Also.Remember.I'm as loyal as they come and will defend each and every monkey to no end!I think many have seen that...

OK.I'll shut up! I hope LifeSong doesn't go anywhere as well!

 

Well said, KTF.

P.S.  Don't shutup.

LifeSong's timeline is great.

Janet have a wonderful trip.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Janet,as well as all Monkey's should ask question's.That's why i appreciate Scared Monkey's.Complete transparency.I know,that if i'm not on track,i can trust and have complete FAITH that the Monkey's will keep me focused!Did Janet's post confuse me a bit?Absolutely.I was aware of Stovall working for Underwater but,was unaware that he was taken over to Legacy Offshore!Sometimes this stuff doesn't make sense to me when i first look at it but putting it out there is the important thing.I know if another Monkey comes across something it could make sense later.

Me personally.I don't believe these POS went down their without an incentive.Were Silvetti,Schaefer and Trahan in complete agreement on an incentive?All these POS got something outta this.I'm hoping i can continue to contribute to one day finding out what the incentive was for each and everyone of these Traitor's.

Always remember.I have much love for the Monkey cage and the participants as long as the goal is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.If that means questioning me!Do it every day.That's what seeking justice is all about!Keep me focused!Also.Remember.I'm as loyal as they come and will defend each and every monkey to no end!I think many have seen that...

OK.I'll shut up! I hope LifeSong doesn't go anywhere as well!

Don't stop or shut up.  It's not what we do.      I think Lifesong isn't going anywhere.

We've all learned along the way that it isn't about me, it's about Natalee.   People question and counter posts.  It happens and we all just have to counter back or agree that the question or counter was reasonable or not.   Sometimes silence is the best, but disappearing not so good.       

[Keepthefaith]

Thanks Lifesong and KTF!!!!! 

 

Thanx TM!I want all Monkey's to know the appreciation and admiration i have for all of you.Everybody contributes in each Monkey's own way!I'm not as organized as many monkey's know.That's why i post many things sometimes.

[Keepthefaith]

To Scared Monkey's,Red,Dugga,Klaas,CBB,San,2nj,MuffyBee,as well as anyone i left out!This forum is a rock and foundation for those without a voice......You all should know you are appreciated more then you know...