Natalee Case Discussion #803 2/25/09 - 3/1/09

[klaasend]

Part 1 of the Revised Timeline is up here.


Klaas - Is it possible to delete all of the other versions in the thread?  I'll have Part 2 - Revised posted in the next hour or two.  Thanks!

Taken care of, now only the new revised Part 1 is there, all the rest have been deleted.

[Kermit]

Note to self:

Kyle thinks the detective with the brother is Simian.
Solid research exists that points to Clyde Burke as Simian.
Clyde Burke attended the 'pond witness' meeting with Helen Lejuez.

SM learned about that meeting from Caps.

The witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE.

Kyle said: This witness wouldn't talk to police and would only talk to us at first through his lawyer.

Caps said: My uncle is an attorney

CapsLockWizard (SM) on May 05, 2008, 11:06:59 PM
Today withness talk to lawyer to see what is the hold-up, lawyer state every thing is OK and group are working on the case. Large dutch CSI. (case is under the microscope---but no american involvment is a bit strange.)



CapsLockWizard
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1509 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:02 AM »
FIrst of all Sorry,

This morning, the area from McDonald till lekker is being analyzed by those from Holand CSI. Also to the house of the witness is being analyzed. They are also near the Brickel bay. aredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.1500

[Kermit]

Vessel Engineer
Marine Surveys (silvetti Marine Services) - Lafayette, LA
We are in need of Vessel Engineer for a 120ft. Research Vessel in the Gulf of Mexico. Great benefits. We are a Veteran Owned Company & have almost 50 percent of Vet employees. We
originally from JobsInLouisiana.com - More Tools...
http://www.simplyhired.com/job-id/2pemlbe5dw/vessel-engineer-jobs/

www.careerbuilder.com/al.ic/Louisiana_Opelousas_Engineering.htm&w=silvetti+dulles+drive+dr&d=WA7qJZ2uSMSf&icp=1&.intl=us


Job type: Full-Time Employee
SILVETTI MARINE Services Needs Vessel Engineer for 200T Survey Vessel. Fax resume to Christy @ 337-234-0269 Or email to Source - Daily Advertiser -...
View full job description Save to MyCareerBuilder Saved Job (View Saved Jobs) Email to a friend   LA - Lafayette
(22 miles) 3 Days Ago
 
 

Did you apply

 

[Keepthefaith]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

[caesu]

Bijleveld wants have talks with Oduber about the judiciary on Aruba.

She is increasingly worried about the situation on Aruba.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_53178.php

AIVD to stay on Aruba

Bijleveld criticizes Rudy Croes about making the leaked VNO-report public.

Bijleveld is positive about PG Pietersz

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_53179.php

(tomorrow in English at http://www.amigoe.com/english/ )

no response yet from Rudy Croes. but that won't take long i guess.

[Kermit]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

Exactly

[Keepthefaith]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

Exactly

Do we know where Legacy offshore was registered and by whom?Been looking?Monkey's?

[AZLady]

Excellent work, Kermit, Keepthefaith, Jen and everyone else.  I'm still reading in the last thread, but the relationships being exposed are more than interesting.  Dare I say, criminal?  Amazing.

[Anna]

Note to self:

Kyle thinks the detective with the brother is Simian.
Solid research exists that points to Clyde Burke as Simian.
Clyde Burke attended the 'pond witness' meeting with Helen Lejuez.

SM learned about that meeting from Caps.

The witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE.

Kyle said: This witness wouldn't talk to police and would only talk to us at first through his lawyer.

Caps said: My uncle is an attorney

CapsLockWizard (SM) on May 05, 2008, 11:06:59 PM
Today withness talk to lawyer to see what is the hold-up, lawyer state every thing is OK and group are working on the case. Large dutch CSI. (case is under the microscope---but no american involvment is a bit strange.)



CapsLockWizard
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1509 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:02 AM »
FIrst of all Sorry,

This morning, the area from McDonald till lekker is being analyzed by those from Holand CSI. Also to the house of the witness is being analyzed. They are also near the Brickel bay. aredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.1500

Did Jossy or anyone else ever confirm the presence of these additional CSI people from The Netherlands?




I have just never seen any proof that they in fact were even there.

[jen3560]

Vessel Engineer
Marine Surveys (silvetti Marine Services) - Lafayette, LA
We are in need of Vessel Engineer for a 120ft. Research Vessel in the Gulf of Mexico. Great benefits. We are a Veteran Owned Company & have almost 50 percent of Vet employees. We
originally from JobsInLouisiana.com - More Tools...
http://www.simplyhired.com/job-id/2pemlbe5dw/vessel-engineer-jobs/

www.careerbuilder.com/al.ic/Louisiana_Opelousas_Engineering.htm&w=silvetti+dulles+drive+dr&d=WA7qJZ2uSMSf&icp=1&.intl=us


Job type: Full-Time Employee
SILVETTI MARINE Services Needs Vessel Engineer for 200T Survey Vessel. Fax resume to Christy @ 337-234-0269 Or email to Source - Daily Advertiser -...
View full job description Save to MyCareerBuilder Saved Job (View Saved Jobs) Email to a friend   LA - Lafayette
(22 miles) 3 Days Ago
 
 

Did you apply

 

NO!!!!!  Did you?

 

[Lifesong]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

Exactly

Do we know where Legacy offshore was registered and by whom?Been looking?Monkey's?

I got that one:

11/20/2007 - NEW
Louis Schaefer and Charles Zamora register Legacy Offshore, LLC; a Louisiana Limited Liability Company

[Kermit]

Note to self:

Kyle thinks the detective with the brother is Simian.
Solid research exists that points to Clyde Burke as Simian.
Clyde Burke attended the 'pond witness' meeting with Helen Lejuez.

SM learned about that meeting from Caps.

The witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE.

Kyle said: This witness wouldn't talk to police and would only talk to us at first through his lawyer.

Caps said: My uncle is an attorney

CapsLockWizard (SM) on May 05, 2008, 11:06:59 PM
Today withness talk to lawyer to see what is the hold-up, lawyer state every thing is OK and group are working on the case. Large dutch CSI. (case is under the microscope---but no american involvment is a bit strange.)



CapsLockWizard
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1509 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:02 AM »
FIrst of all Sorry,

This morning, the area from McDonald till lekker is being analyzed by those from Holand CSI. Also to the house of the witness is being analyzed. They are also near the Brickel bay. aredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.1500

Did Jossy or anyone else ever confirm the presence of these additional CSI people from The Netherlands?




I have just never seen any proof that they in fact were even there.

I agree, no proof they were there except Caps said it and Kyle said it.

[Kermit]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

Exactly

Do we know where Legacy offshore was registered and by whom?Been looking?Monkey's?

I got that one:

11/20/2007 - NEW
Louis Schaefer and Charles Zamora register Legacy Offshore, LLC; a Louisiana Limited Liability Company

Lifesong, love your timeline and the way it's all adding up. GREAT JOB!

[Lifesong]

Part 1 of the Revised Timeline is up here.


Klaas - Is it possible to delete all of the other versions in the thread?  I'll have Part 2 - Revised posted in the next hour or two.  Thanks!

Taken care of, now only the new revised Part 1 is there, all the rest have been deleted.

Thanks, Klaas.  I'm wrapping up some other work and will be back to it soon.  Part 2 will be up by early tonight, I'd rather have it not there for a minute then leave it the way it was.

[jen3560]

Reply #93 on: May 21, 2008, 10:41:54 AM Update from Destiny...

This am:...


    Hi XXXXXXX
    How are you today?
    I have been talking with Jossy Mansur about the article and he says to me that it is ok to published it in the newspaper.
     
    About the other investigation of the dutch investigators he said to me that he don't know nothing about it, but he gone check it out.  *He needs our help*
     
    The Texas Equisearch is now here for the investigation of the dissapearence of the guy Vicenzo Tromp. They has begin to search yesterday but till now we haven't hear nothing about that.
    Some people says the guy is no more in Aruba, other says he is been killed, but still nothing concrete about it.
     
    If I have more information I will send it to you.
     
    Bye
    Have a nice day
   XXXXXXXX

Destiny....more info to follow
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2856.msg383313#msg383313

[Keepthefaith]

I think in time more to the story will come Via contracts!

Exactly

Do we know where Legacy offshore was registered and by whom?Been looking?Monkey's?

I got that one:

11/20/2007 - NEW
Louis Schaefer and Charles Zamora register Legacy Offshore, LLC; a Louisiana Limited Liability Company

Lifesong, love your timeline and the way it's all adding up. GREAT JOB!

Registered Legacy offshore right before they go to Aruba??

[Kermit]

ruff ruff to Snoopy for the kind words

[caesu]

Bijleveld wants have talks with Oduber about the judiciary on Aruba.

She is increasingly worried about the situation on Aruba.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_53178.php

AIVD to stay on Aruba

Bijleveld criticizes Rudy Croes about making the leaked VNO-report public.

Bijleveld is positive about PG Pietersz

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_53179.php

(tomorrow in English at http://www.amigoe.com/english/ )

no response yet from Rudy Croes. but that won't take long i guess.

update: Rudy has responded:

Croes unhappy about declaration Bijleveld

The Aruban justice minister Rudy Croes cannot agree with the declaration State Secretary Ank Bijleveld (Kingdom Relations) has given about the leaked out confidential information of the Dutch representation on the island. "Our community has the right to know what rubbish was written by the Dutch about Aruba", Croes reacted on 25 February.

"All this are gossips collected at the request of Bijleveld and the Dutch minister of justice Hirsch Ballin", said Croes about the leaked out report. "If you do this in China, as an embassy you have to leave. We are a separate country and no "onderhorigen" of the Netherlands. Once again, I demand an apology from the Netherlands."

http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/politiek/car20090225_aruba

onderhorigen is a term from the colonial time.
meaning something like servants.

[jen3560]

Thanks ceasu!

Interesting that Aruba claims to be a part of the Dutch kingdom when it suits them.

And when it does not - they throw a fit about "interference".

And isn't Rudy Dutch himself?

[bastibro]

Note to self:

Kyle thinks the detective with the brother is Simian.
Solid research exists that points to Clyde Burke as Simian.
Clyde Burke attended the 'pond witness' meeting with Helen Lejuez.

SM learned about that meeting from Caps.

The witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE.

Kyle said: This witness wouldn't talk to police and would only talk to us at first through his lawyer.

Caps said: My uncle is an attorney

CapsLockWizard (SM) on May 05, 2008, 11:06:59 PM
Today withness talk to lawyer to see what is the hold-up, lawyer state every thing is OK and group are working on the case. Large dutch CSI. (case is under the microscope---but no american involvment is a bit strange.)



CapsLockWizard
Scared Monkey
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Posts: 845
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1509 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:02 AM »
FIrst of all Sorry,

This morning, the area from McDonald till lekker is being analyzed by those from Holand CSI. Also to the house of the witness is being analyzed. They are also near the Brickel bay. aredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.1500

Did Jossy or anyone else ever confirm the presence of these additional CSI people from The Netherlands?




I have just never seen any proof that they in fact were even there.

The last time a CSI team from The Netherlands went there was in Apil 2007.