Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006

[klaasend]

You all know the rules



THERE IS TO BE NO POSTING OF ADDRESSES OR DISCUSSION OF CONTACTING ANY WITNESSES IN THIS CASE.  ANY CONCERNS WE MAY HAVE REGARDING THE WITNESSES RELOCATING TO THE UNITED STATES WILL BE SENT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

[Tylergal]

Has anyone been watching the site meter recently to see if the son of the ditch is reading here from Holland or from Aruba?

[AZLady]

Whew, that was just in the nick of time!  I fear I will soon be in Lala's book!  I hear her pencil sharpener now.

[AZLady]

Good idea.  I'll take a look see.

[San]

Has anyone been watching the site meter recently to see if the son of the ditch is reading here from Holland or from Aruba?

There has been someone reading from Aruba all day long and from the Netherlands there have been about 5 various locations.

[Tylergal]

Two thumbs up to AZ and San.

[AZLady]

All I see is Jamaica and ? Unknown Country.  Hmm...

[AZLady]

Good catch, San.  I don't see them there now.

[San]

Good catch, San.  I don't see them there now.

They were there earlier.  I would say less than an hour ago.

[Tylergal]

How about Rotterdam Zuid Holland?  

[AZLady]

Shout out to Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland and  71.75.240.#  Unknown Country.  How's the weather there today?  

[klaasend]

Has anyone been watching the site meter recently to see if the son of the ditch is reading here from Holland or from Aruba?

There has been someone reading from Aruba all day long and from the Netherlands there have been about 5 various locations.

[klaasend]

JORAN - DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL ON MAY 30, 2005?  What were you doing all day?  HUH?

[San]

All I see is Jamaica and ? Unknown Country.  Hmm...

I saw China, Venezuela, Australia, Germany, Israel.  I think there was Antigua too.

[AZLady]

All I see is Jamaica and ? Unknown Country.  Hmm...

I saw China, Venezuela, Australia, Germany, Israel.  I think there was Antigua too.

I looked at Location and Who's On.  Where were you looking?

[igsigs]

JORAN - DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL ON MAY 30, 2005?  What were you doing all day?  HUH?

I am open to the possibility that Joran did go to school on monday and Paulus is playing dumb because...

1) It's the how he got to school, or the when that is a problem.

2) It muddies up his other non-answers to make them seem less important.

[AZLady]

I am under the impression that he did go to school, also, but he went late and Paulus or someone else took him.  Paulus recognized that Joran's best alibi would to be seen at school on Monday.  Joran, however, was so exhausted from his nightly activities that he slept much of the day.  

The students also reported that he bragged to them about having sex with Natalee and her drowning and hitting her head.  This was when the Headmaster called Anita to tell her to shut him up.  Was this on Tuesday or later?

[Florida]

(Tues-) Paulus:

I cannot remember what I did when I got home. I think that Joran
went to bed and that I worked a little in the garden  
and then started preparing dinner. I informed Anita about what
had taken place. That night I went to bed early.

[igsigs]

(Tues-) Paulus:

I cannot remember what I did when I got home. I think that Joran
went to bed and that I worked a little in the garden  
and then started preparing dinner. I informed Anita about what
had taken place. That night I went to bed early.

Someone saw him digging?

[Lala'sMom]

I am under the impression that he did go to school, also, but he went late and Paulus or someone else took him.  Paulus recognized that Joran's best alibi would to be seen at school on Monday.  Joran, however, was so exhausted from his nightly activities that he slept much of the day.  

The students also reported that he bragged to them about having sex with Natalee and her drowning and hitting her head.  This was when the Headmaster called Anita to tell her to shut him up.  Was this on Tuesday or later?

PVDS June 23:
To your question how it then is possible that I had not seen Joran
get onto the bus, I can state the following. Of course I see the children
get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and
Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus
once or twice during that period. But I do not remember exactly which
days he did not go with the bus. It could be that it was that Monday.
Most likely I informed the bus driver that Joran would not be going with
the bus. A clue to the fact that Joran did not go to school that Monday
could be that on Tuesday I insisted that he went to school that day.


His father says he did not go to school that day. Really?  Then where did we get the story about his classmates teasing him and such?  From Renfroe? Is it in writing from an interview or does anyone know?