Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006

[San]

Hi M.onkeys,
I'm so proud of how you all think!  Last couple of days has been so great lurking for me.  
I'm I reading this correctly? In the same stinking statement PVDS said he wasn't sure Joran went to school on Monday.  Then he says he knows he didn't go to school on Monday?

PVDS said:
"To your question whether Joran went to school on Monday
May 30th 2005, I can state the following. I cannot precisely recollect
whether Joran went to school that day. It is possible that he did not
go to school that day. "


PVDS said farther down in the statement:
I woke up Valentijn and Sebastian and I also said to Joran that he
had to go to school even though he wasn't in the mood to go. I know
that I insisted that he should go. A reason for that might be that he had
already not gone to school on Monday. I then left for work. I think it
was approximately 7.30 hours when I called the headmaster of the
International School.

Also did I read that Joran said somewhere about his dad having some sort of memory problem? I think if he did, that he was using that as a set the stage coverup for all this I can't remember holes, in PVDS's statements. Joran was being shown statements that others where making plus his father got to visit him every day. When he couldn't, Mommy did!

I agree hummingbird.  Paulus got to visit Joran every day.  If it wasn't during the day he was snuck in there during the night especially when they were first holding him at the police station.  I'll even say he was taken to an undisclosed location during the night and we have Van der Straten and Jacobs to thank for that.

[AZLady]

SunFreak, you know they must have tested that "suspicious unnamed substance" and the ALE know what it is.  They would also know if there were fingerprints on the bottle and whose they are.  Do you think all this is in the jillion pages of files they claim to have?  I just doubt it.

[AZLady]

I just wonder if the Dutch investigators and de Vries have all the newspaper articles that we have read.  Just reading the local Aruban news reports would give them many leads to follow and "suspicious unnamed substances" to uncover and identify.  Now, this is all public record, so I would have to think these people are bright enough to access the local media regarding the investigation, wouldn't you?

[hummingbird7525]

Oh San,
 I never even thought of daddy sneaking in at night.  Joran never had to sleep on concrete bed, they probably brought him in a Aero bed!

[Anna]

I just wonder if the Dutch investigators and de Vries have all the newspaper articles that we have read.  Just reading the local Aruban news reports would give them many leads to follow and "suspicious unnamed substances" to uncover and identify.  Now, this is all public record, so I would have to think these people are bright enough to access the local media regarding the investigation, wouldn't you?

That last one posted by Sunfreak would be very good to send to him.  Do we use snail mail or email or what to contact him?  I know it is too late for consideration for investigation for the program but at least he would have it.

Also notice how the American media is comprised of "morons" and such but the Dutch investigative reporter is just the tops, totally awesome, etc.  Whassup with that?


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[Anna]

Oh San,
 I never even thought of daddy sneaking in at night.  Joran never had to sleep on concrete bed, they probably brought him in a Aero bed!

Early on rumor had it the Sloots were staying with their good buds Ben (Voc)King.  I always thought it was the other way around.  Joran was sneaked home at night since King is over the entire prison system.  How conflicted is it to have the fam staying with him during the time Joran in jail?  

And as such, King is a member of the prosecution team.  You don't suppose he told Paulus all their strategy?

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[San]

Oh San,
 I never even thought of daddy sneaking in at night.  Joran never had to sleep on concrete bed, they probably brought him in a Aero bed!

They made him as comfortable as possible.  Anita's comment at the court house was "he was supposed to be safe there".

[mrs. red]

Oh San,
 I never even thought of daddy sneaking in at night.  Joran never had to sleep on concrete bed, they probably brought him in a Aero bed!

They made him as comfortable as possible.  Anita's comment at the court house was "he was supposed to be safe there".

if she wasn't in that category of big people that lie, she would have said safe and comfortable there....

[blah]

Hi Monkeys... been reading... WOW...

WOW...i'm impressed youve been readin !!!








just kidding

[Anna]

When they show us things like the plastic Lysol bottle with a suspicious substance in it, the belt that we have seen Joran wearing or one identical to it in another photo and the piece that looked like Natalee's top the park ranger threw away into the water, does anyone else get the feeling they are rubbing our noses in the fact they have evidence but refuse to use it?

I get so upset I just have to walk away and get over it.  Tell me I am just imagining that, please.

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[mrs. red]

It is my opinion Anna that yes they are rubbing our noses in it and they are hoping that we just walk away out of frustration....

[hummingbird7525]

Early on rumor had it the Sloots were staying with their good buds Ben (Voc)King. I always thought it was the other way around. Joran was sneaked home at night since King is over the entire prison system. How conflicted is it to have the fam staying with him during the time Joran in jail?

And as such, King is a member of the prosecution team. You don't suppose he told Paulus all their strategy?

The more I hear, I just want to throw up! These people should not get away with any of this. Maybe Peter will blow open the case, with what ever he found out.
Where does Ben King live? You know Paulus knew their strategy, Joran wasn't worried about getting out.  His brother Valintjin (sp) was telling everyone the day Joran was getting out just like he knew and had insight, when he was filling in for Joran on website.

[Anna]

Here you go, Mrs. Red, for all those teasing you




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[hummingbird7525]

Oops. sorry I messed that up!!!

[Kat_Gram]

The Aruban girl, Aarubaanse, has posted on the FP that she has heard from a person connected to P De Vreies. She gave him the name of this site.
She is a sweetie pie.

[SunFreak2]

I just wonder if the Dutch investigators and de Vries have all the newspaper articles that we have read.  Just reading the local Aruban news reports would give them many leads to follow and "suspicious unnamed substances" to uncover and identify.  Now, this is all public record, so I would have to think these people are bright enough to access the local media regarding the investigation, wouldn't you?

What evidence or items were found where?

Lighthouse/California sand dunes/Arashi Beach -
belt (8-12-05)
bits of plastic (8-12-05)
aru-bay rocks (6-10-05)
bone with flesh - said to be a donkey bone

Marriott/Fisherman's Huts
panties (6-14-05)
condoms (6-14-05)
bikini strap (6-14-05)
bone with flesh on it (7-6-05)

Colony
sunglasses (6-6-06)
VCB shirt (6-6-06)
spray bottle with suspicious substance (6-6-06)
foam with bite marks (6-6-06)
mattress with dog blood (6-5-06)

Boca Tortuga area of Arikok Park
duct tape with blonde hairs (7-17-05
fabric matching Natalee's top(7-17-05)
Shallow Grave (7-12-05)

CarlosNCharlie's
International Diamonds security tape (5-30-05)

[kbm]

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject:    

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YEP.....A very creepy family!

Kawish was there that Monday after tennis at the casinos

Hey Florida,
how do u know that Kawish was at the casinos that Monday after tennis??

byebye

[Anna]

Oops. sorry I messed that up!!!

Its OK, we know what you mean and can read it.  No prob.

Yes, it makes me ill.  And so angry I start shaking.  I just can't believe anybody would be so cruel with a missing and likely dead child involved.
It is beyond comprehension.  At the risk of getting yet another lecture from Old Fart, it just makes me hate them.  It's like it is a big joke or something to them.  All of them smirking and lying and sending out decoys and all of it is just too much.

Yes, I hope de Vries exposes enough corruption that they investigate and some of these people are punished for failure to do their job, etc. ALE obstructed justice!  How's that for insane!''.

[Kat_Gram]

And furthermore, remember his first statement seems to be missing so the first one we have for him is much later than the Kalpoes, something like June 9 and by them he had time to sort it all out and put the fabrications in place.  

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If the police were tracking them, didn't they find it suspicious when the Kalpoes went to the vd Sloots every day.  Did they just tap the cell phones or did they tap the land lines too?  I think all that tracking stuff was just hooey.  It was a ruse to give them time to get their stories together and the evidence disposed of.

I think the surveillence consisted of a land line tap. They could get the phone calls made and to who from the cell provider, but no content. They did a pathetic job of their " investigation ".

[blah]

It is my opinion Anna that yes they are rubbing our noses in it and they are hoping that we just walk away out of frustration....

yeah but at the end of the day, the no good aloe pickers are hoping they can increase sales of their cheap ass nappy shampoo and soap on a rope to make up for the decline in tourism just so they can buy a bag of weed at the end of the week.

Pretty soon they wont be able to afford shots of 151 and there will be no decendants of Hitler to go shark seeing with.  Who will they brag to about their off the scale intelligence and wanna be soccer star status?

Where will the casinos go when the tourists are gone and Bush shuts down the online gambling?  Doesnt sound good for Sunday night out with paw to do some "free" gambling, kidnapping, raping and killing.

They thumb thier bullshit at us now but we will have the last laugh.  Enjoy your cornflakes now fatass, your boxes are numbered.