Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
June 15, 2024, 04:33:12 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006 (Read 122246 times)
0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.
Carnut
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3882
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #180 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:09:25 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Anna"
I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.
Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities. Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?
Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums. It might have originated either here or at RWV.
Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.
Logged
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3251
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #181 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:12:00 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "yapperz1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita. WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was? Why was that important?
So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals
Exactly. There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.
Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran. Then we saw the casino shots. Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?
Logged
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #182 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:13:28 PM »
ARUBA, the Scum of the Earth
had no idea this was going to affect their paradise from hell island in the manner it has. some think the country and tourism is just fine, HA
what a load of BS that is.
but because they didnt realize it was going to be as bad as it is
they just kept going down and down and down and down
too far down the road to turn back, but they are so stupid they will drag the whole country down with them
aruba is not only EVIL but stupid as well
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #183 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:14:38 PM »
.
Ah, Klaas,
I keep forgetting about the "decoys" too!
I have wondered if Paulus is also in charge of visas in any way. Like the 400 illegal ones issued by Rudy Croes for the "exotic Dancers" as that might well be something the NL would frown upon in conferring on him the title of judge with such a thing in his record.
Wonder how much they charged for those in addition to the legal amount? At $1000 apiece, well, we can all do the math. And once in the system, it is likely Holland that would or could end up paying the bills on lots of these just as with illegals in this country. Has to annoy the NL since Aruba rufuses to give an accounting of their funds, even those given by the NL to them.
.
.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3251
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #184 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:16:22 PM »
I think there has been only one reason for all the lies from the suspects, witnesses, Aruban spokespeople, & the darkside bloggers. To confuse the story so no one person can be found guity beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Logged
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #185 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:17:41 PM »
paulus is nothing but walking -talking -STALKING LOAD of BS
paulus is a SWEAT MACHINE
its called NERVOUS from GUILT
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #186 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:19:48 PM »
i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it
they steal it at the poker tables
they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables
when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
nonesuche
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8878
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #187 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:21:21 PM »
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "yapperz1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita. WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was? Why was that important?
So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals
That's what I was going to say.
Me too.
Thank you for the transcript San, off to bed with me, everyone rest well!
Logged
I continue to stand with the girl.
Anna
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18149
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #188 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:24:45 PM »
Quote from: "robots"
i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it
they steal it at the poker tables
they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables
when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book
Deepak did report a tourist complaining that Joran was cheating the night the Alabama Delegation arrived. I have wondered about that and about Guido being involved in some sort of scheme.
Logged
PERSONA NON GRATA
All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3251
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #189 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:25:02 PM »
Quote from: "Anna"
Wonder how much they charged for those in addition to the legal amount? At $1000 apiece, well, we can all do the math. And once in the system, it is likely Holland that would or could end up paying the bills on lots of these just as with illegals in this country. Has to annoy the NL since Aruba rufuses to give an accounting of their funds, even those given by the NL to them.
Why doesn't the NL just dump Aruba as one of their protectorates or whatever they call the Netherlands Antilles? It seems Aruba is just shaming them and draining money from them. I doubt if Aruba ever gave them one dime of the profits from tourism. Or perhaps tt's a symbiotic relationship and the NL needs them to tranship their drugs in & out, and launder their dirty money too.
What bothers me the most about Aruba's judicial system is that it is based on the one in the NL's which is also the basis of the world court. Look at what happened in the Milosevic trial where they dragged their feet so long, the defendent died in prison. But yet, they are trying to expedite this case for the vd Sloots.
Logged
justinsmama
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3204
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #190 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:25:20 PM »
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Sunfreak-
I wasn't challenging you with my post regarding the truth of Boxtel Freeway, I thought perhaps you didn't have the full story, that's all. I do think the parents of Joran avoided disciplining him and as a parent, I know what that entails and of a "sporter" physically larger than you are. It's not easy, it requires you be very hands-on and persistent and consistent. If we don't start holding some parents accountable I fear our society will have increasing problems.
I also think highly of you and your opinions, so hopefully we can agree to disagree on parts of this and agree on others?
Will have? That boat has already sailed.
None and Car are right. It is literally a weary experience nearly every day in this household to set limits, and provide appropriate consequences when those limits are not adhered to by Justin. It would be easy to give in! And God knows that there are times that I want to do so. I would be remiss as a parent should I take that route. I love my son too much to do that to him. He would suffer as an adult should I not do my job now. My youngest sister, the "baby" of our family, went through hell as a young adult from our father's permissiveness and our mother just being worn out by the time the fifth one hit adolesence. My sister found that the rest of the world expected far more of her than our parents did. She railed against those expectations for several years. Luckily, something must have been built into her foundation, as she finally saw the light and has been a responsible adult for a long while now.
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #191 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:25:46 PM »
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "yapperz1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita. WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was? Why was that important?
So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals
Exactly. There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.
Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran. Then we saw the casino shots. Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?
Yes, but back in the beginning we were told he had just arrived back in Aruba around 4:40 or 5pm on May 29th.
Logged
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #192 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:26:39 PM »
LET me do a little TRANSLATING
To your question whether Joran went to school on Monday
May 30th 2005, I can state the following. I cannot precisely recollect
whether Joran went to school that day. It is possible that he did not
go to school that day.
"um,,,,errr.. ahhh....errrr if i say he did not go to school that day it will look very bad for FRANKENJORAN if i say he did not go to school SO i will say that i cant remember much of anything"
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #193 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:26:59 PM »
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Anna"
I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.
Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities. Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?
Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums. It might have originated either here or at RWV.
Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.
Just checked the Greta interview and he doesn't mention his dad, only lhis mom being in Holland.
Logged
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #194 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:28:17 PM »
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "robots"
i think the reason they have all the cash is because they STEAL it
they steal it at the poker tables
they use hand signals with dealers and their CRONIES at the tables
when you cheat at a poker table it is called STEALING in my book
Deepak did report a tourist complaining that Joran was cheating the night the Alabama Delegation arrived. I have wondered about that and about Guido being involved in some sort of scheme.
YEP, dont try it in vegas
but in ARUBA when the whole casino is in on it against a bunch of Teenage tourists...
its like SHOOTING FISH in a BARREL
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
Carnut
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3882
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #195 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:30:48 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "yapperz1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
So PAULUS was not in Holland with Anita. WHY did someone make a point of making us think that he was? Why was that important?
So we wouldn't connect him & his dirty old men's club pals
Exactly. There has to be a reason why we were lead to believe he was out of town with Anita while the MB kids were in Aruba.
Yes, but he were told he was in town on that Sunday/Monday when she disappeared. We were told he went to the poker tourny with Joran. Then we saw the casino shots. Why was it important to cover Paulus's butt prior to the tournament?
Yes, but back in the beginning we were told he had just arrived back in Aruba around 4:40 or 5pm on May 29th.
Well, now just because PVDS statement says he stayed in aruba dosen't necessarily make it so.
Logged
Carnut
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3882
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #196 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:31:37 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Anna"
I was hoping somebody would find record of Joran stating that he picked up Paulus at the airport, etc. as I am almost certain we hared that from a source of either Joran or Julia, one of the Sloot team.
Has to be to distance Paulus from such activities. Wonder what went on the other nights Anita was away?
Anna, it was very early on and it was posted by someone in Aruba in one of the blogs or forums. It might have originated either here or at RWV.
Well, I know for sure it was discussed at RWV, but I still maintain it was one of the first explanations by JVDS in the Greta interview.
Just checked the Greta interview and he doesn't mention his dad, only lhis mom being in Holland.
Ok, guess my memory fails me, sure thought I saw it there.
Logged
Kat_Gram
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7018
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #197 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:31:59 PM »
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "sb"
Nice to see our board jumping again like this! I have been on several nights where I post and then sit back and listen to the crickets.
You got Crickets?
I ate a cricket yeaterday. Crunchy.
Logged
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #198 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:32:08 PM »
GOODNIGHT EVERYONE
Logged
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3251
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
«
Reply #199 on:
October 22, 2006, 11:33:51 PM »
Quote from: "robots"
paulus is a SWEAT MACHINE
its called NERVOUS from GUILT
I think Paulus's sweating is why Aruba is flooding. It's not rain, it's sweat.
Logged
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...