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mrs. red
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Quote from: "Florida"
He is so ICK to me...
THe Suriname guys are CUTE!
so do you and kbm know them? aren't you afraid of them? I would be... even if I had known them before... I mean jvds did say himself that they did this 20 x before......
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From what I understand they saw his car & him with Joran at the Radisson that Monday afternoon.....If Kawish would talk he would be such a hero!
This needs to be solved once & for all...Aruba cannot afford $$$ to lose anymore.
ONE PERSON is bringing the whole island down!
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well i dont know al the details...yall know more than me.
but i think its very difficult for 3young men to do such a crime, and dont get caught. and there are so much investigation from usa and holland.
(thats almost impossible)
kbm, it sounds like you have gotten some bad information. You might want to take a look that the thread that has all of the witness/suspects statements on it. I think things will become alot more clear once you start comparing the statements to each other. The suspects and witnesses directly contradict each other on so many points its difficult to keep track of all of the inconsistencies. You do not have to take my word for it, read for yourself, you will see!!
yeh thats true....but like i said the suspects also didnt know what was happening.
and this is just one dissapearance in aruba (unsolved), but in usa there are also allot of unsolved crimes and you dont hear anything about it
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Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "kbm"
well i dont know al the details...yall know more than me.
but i think its very difficult for 3young men to do such a crime, and dont get caught. and there are so much investigation from usa and holland.
(thats almost impossible)
kbm, it sounds like you have gotten some bad information. You might want to take a look that the thread that has all of the witness/suspects statements on it. I think things will become alot more clear once you start comparing the statements to each other. The suspects and witnesses directly contradict each other on so many points its difficult to keep track of all of the inconsistencies. You do not have to take my word for it, read for yourself, you will see!!
yeh thats true....but like i said the suspects also didnt know what was happening.
and this is just one dissapearance in aruba (unsolved), but in usa there are also allot of unsolved crimes and you dont hear anything about it
Heh, heh, yeah, but aruba disappeared the wrong person.
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From what I understand they saw his car & him with Joran at the Radisson that Monday afternoon.....If Kawish would talk he would be such a hero!
This needs to be solved once & for all...Aruba cannot afford $$$ to lose anymore.
ONE PERSON is bringing the whole island down![/
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well that is true.... and it's going to keep going down unless you get Kawish to talk and tell the truth.... and I don't mean any garbage that Natalee ran away to another island... we all know damn good and well that it isn't true... Aruba has already sent a mouth piece with that information.....
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October 24, 2006, 09:31:07 PM »
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KBM,
Here is a link to the statements we have collected so far from the suspects. You might want to read them as you have time and compare one version with another. It is VERY telling.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewforum.php?f=6
Also someone from the US could have done something but the three suspects are known and admit to being the last seen with Natalee. It would only make sense to do something to her here in a country of 300 million rather than on a tiny island. Much easier to cover, etc. here and they would not know how to dispose of a body either.
No, this was someone who knew how to make her disappear but good and that would require more information that the MB students could have gleaned in three days.
.In my opinion, anyway.
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haha okee
Welcome back. Tell us your thoughts on the case.
uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view
you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....
well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty
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It was less than 24 hours. What is your point ? They had the transporation ready. Why not go ?
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kbm
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October 24, 2006, 09:31:16 PM »
Quote from: "Florida"
From what I understand they saw his car & him with Joran at the Radisson that Monday afternoon.....If Kawish would talk he would be such a hero!
This needs to be solved once & for all...Aruba cannot afford $$$ to lose anymore.
ONE PERSON is bringing the whole island down!
well in that time period i wasnt in aruba.
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Florida
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October 24, 2006, 09:31:22 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Florida"
He is so ICK to me...
THe Suriname guys are CUTE!
so do you and kbm know them? aren't you afraid of them? I would be... even if I had known them before... I mean jvds did say himself that they did this 20 x before......
I think Joran is soooo UGLY!
THe Suriname guys don't seem UGLY/evil to me....
20x before may mean just kissing & stuff.....
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mrs. red
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KBM... I beg to differ... there is an entire section on this very blog dedciated to others that are missing...
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
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haha okee
Welcome back. Tell us your thoughts on the case.
uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view
you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....
well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty
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It was less than 24 hours. What is your point ? They had the transporation ready. Why not go ?
okee
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Florida
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October 24, 2006, 09:32:11 PM »
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Quote from: "Florida"
From what I understand they saw his car & him with Joran at the Radisson that Monday afternoon.....If Kawish would talk he would be such a hero!
This needs to be solved once & for all...Aruba cannot afford $$$ to lose anymore.
ONE PERSON is bringing the whole island down!
well in that time period i wasnt in aruba.
You missed all the excitement........
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Lala'sMom
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Evening Monkeys, I see we have a newbie here tonight....welcome to our world.
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mrs. red
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Florida"
He is so ICK to me...
THe Suriname guys are CUTE!
so do you and kbm know them? aren't you afraid of them? I would be... even if I had known them before... I mean jvds did say himself that they did this 20 x before......
I think Joran is soooo UGLY!
THe Suriname guys don't seem UGLY/evil to me....
20x before may mean just kissing & stuff.....
So do you and KBM know each other? Do you know them? I am just wondering...
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Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "kbm"
well i dont know al the details...yall know more than me.
but i think its very difficult for 3young men to do such a crime, and dont get caught. and there are so much investigation from usa and holland.
(thats almost impossible)
kbm, it sounds like you have gotten some bad information. You might want to take a look that the thread that has all of the witness/suspects statements on it. I think things will become alot more clear once you start comparing the statements to each other. The suspects and witnesses directly contradict each other on so many points its difficult to keep track of all of the inconsistencies. You do not have to take my word for it, read for yourself, you will see!!
yeh thats true....but like i said the suspects also didnt know what was happening.
Share with us.
and this is just one dissapearance in aruba (unsolved), but in usa there are also allot of unsolved crimes and you dont hear anything about it
You hear alot.
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Florida
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Hiram saw Natalee from his window....
Into his neighbor's house.
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October 24, 2006, 09:33:48 PM »
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Quote from: "Florida"
From what I understand they saw his car & him with Joran at the Radisson that Monday afternoon.....If Kawish would talk he would be such a hero!
This needs to be solved once & for all...Aruba cannot afford $$$ to lose anymore.
ONE PERSON is bringing the whole island down!
well in that time period i wasnt in aruba.
Guess that means the rumor that Kawish was at the casino that monday is wrong?
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Quote from: "kbm"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "kbm"
well i dont know al the details...yall know more than me.
but i think its very difficult for 3young men to do such a crime, and dont get caught. and there are so much investigation from usa and holland.
(thats almost impossible)
kbm, it sounds like you have gotten some bad information. You might want to take a look that the thread that has all of the witness/suspects statements on it. I think things will become alot more clear once you start comparing the statements to each other. The suspects and witnesses directly contradict each other on so many points its difficult to keep track of all of the inconsistencies. You do not have to take my word for it, read for yourself, you will see!!
yeh thats true....but like i said the suspects also didnt know what was happening.
and this is just one dissapearance in aruba (unsolved), but in usa there are also allot of unsolved crimes and you dont hear anything about it
The suspects may have been told to hang tight and it would blow over. Their advisor was wrong. If their friend lied to them, it is time to come clean.
If there was reason to believe an unsolved crime in the US was unsolved due to incompetence or refusal to use resources or lack of evidence protection or croneism...believe me..you'd hear plenty..
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KBM
Hi there! What do you think happened to Natalee? Could it have been as simple as some think? Just and overdose and J2K were unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? TIA
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Quote from: "kbm"
and this is just one dissapearance in aruba (unsolved), but in usa there are also allot of unsolved crimes and you dont hear anything about it
If you dont hear anything about it, just read this website more often. This website (scaredmonkeys.com) covers many MANY missing persons cases.
Also, the thing that has really gotten the attention in America with the Natalee Holloway case isnt so much that it is a case of a missing girl, but it is more about how Aruba handled the case after she went missing. There was a very mishandled investigation, the victim and family were ridiculed and threatened, searchers were drug through the mud and so on.
If it was simply a case of a girl who went missing and the authorities did everything in their power to locate her, and asked for help and resources from the USA and treated the victim and family with class - it wouldnt have been made such a big deal. We understand that people go missing everywhere all the time. We just ask for an honest effort in finding that person. Is that asking too much?
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