Natalee Case Discussion #804 3/1/09 - 3/6/09

[Lifesong]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

[Tamikosmom]

LifeSong..

OIL,SHIPWRECKS,OFFSHORE BUSINESSES...ANYTHING ELSE?

Then there is Kyle Kingman's Sonar and ROV expertise for the Natalee Holloway part of the venture.

Janet

++++++

The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007

I. Mobilization

Kyle Kingman - Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.

Posted by Kyle Kingman
 
http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm

http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html


QUALIFICATIONS - KYLE KINGMAN’S WEBSITE

Kyle Kingman’s Specialties:

Project Management, Sonar Acquisition, hydrographic survey, data processing, remote sensing data analysis.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/b/65/464

[Tamikosmom]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

[Anna]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Obviously the family was on to this long before we were.  At least Beth and her brother. 

[Keepthefaith]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

[Tamikosmom]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #758 on: March 14, 2008, 12:56:35 AM »

I forgot to add that I loved the message from Kyle that it is a requirement to maintain hope. I would give anything to have to eat a great big plate of crow with Kyle watching me choke on it, meaning that the Arubans are sincerely his partner. And I want him to come to his own conclusion. But I really like him, he has definitely proven his worth, and for some dumb reason I feel like he needs my protection, which is a joke. Just keep your guard up Kyle is all I am saying. There have been some very strange happenings in this case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

[Tamikosmom]

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

SUMMER, 2008

The Travels and Ponderings of Kyle Kingman

Saturday, August 2, 2008
- Ulsteinvik to Cairo- 24-July
2345 hrs, Thursday July 24th – Cairo, Egypt

I took the train to the client’s main office where I was greeted by several bosses who gathered together and looked at me, a “geo”, as if I were a lone unicorn. After a brief productive meeting Knut walks in and hands me a phone. It’s a Dutch agent named Mark Tobe. He tells me I’m needed immediately in Cairo and that a driver will be waiting for me when I land.

My flight leaves in 5 hours, should I accept.

I grabbed my bags, took the bullet train back to Oslo airport and I left for Cairo.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/ulsteinvik-to-cairo-24-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/


Saturday, August 2, 2008
Through Skøyen Station - Norway, 12-July 2008

On the 7th of July 2008, I flew from Newark to Copenhagen, Denmark. After a 7 ½ hr flight from Newark, I was relieved to land in Denmark. I think the Copenhagen airport was actually a shopping mall disguised as an airport.

<snipped>

The North Sea is a cold, volatile beast. One moment it is tranquil and picturesque, while the next it is an explosive, churning, and bone-chilling frenzy brimming with white caps. Last night, a long low-profile work vessel was operating within a mile of our vessel.

The offshore project manager, John told me that recently 18 people drowned on that same boat when it sank.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/through-skyen-station-norway-12-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/


Saturday, August 2, 2008
- Ulsteinvik to Cairo- 24-July
2345 hrs, Thursday July 24th – Cairo, Egypt

An announcement comes over the plane’s PA system breaking the silence: “Ladies and gentlemen we have begun our final decent into Cairo. On your left you will see the great pyramids. We hope you have enjoyed the flight.”

It’s 0200 hrs local time. Walking off the plane… “At least it’s not as hot as UAE”, I think to myself. “Please God; let my driver be waiting for me”. I was contacted about 12 hours earlier in Norway by a Dutch agent who needed me in Cairo ASAP and they were not afraid to pay a high price to get me here. All I know is there was to be a driver waiting for me. I don’t know who the client is, what the job is, what I’m doing in Egypt, or if I will even be staying in Egypt.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/ulsteinvik-to-cairo-24-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/

[Keepthefaith]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #758 on: March 14, 2008, 12:56:35 AM »

I forgot to add that I loved the message from Kyle that it is a requirement to maintain hope. I would give anything to have to eat a great big plate of crow with Kyle watching me choke on it, meaning that the Arubans are sincerely his partner. And I want him to come to his own conclusion. But I really like him, he has definitely proven his worth, and for some dumb reason I feel like he needs my protection, which is a joke. Just keep your guard up Kyle is all I am saying. There have been some very strange happenings in this case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

I hope Kyle heeds these words carefully!He is amongst a lot of shady people!

[Keepthefaith]

How is Lala's Johan??

[Lifesong]

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

SUMMER, 2008

The Travels and Ponderings of Kyle Kingman

Saturday, August 2, 2008
- Ulsteinvik to Cairo- 24-July
2345 hrs, Thursday July 24th – Cairo, Egypt

I took the train to the client’s main office where I was greeted by several bosses who gathered together and looked at me, a “geo”, as if I were a lone unicorn. After a brief productive meeting Knut walks in and hands me a phone. It’s a Dutch agent named Mark Tobe. He tells me I’m needed immediately in Cairo and that a driver will be waiting for me when I land.

My flight leaves in 5 hours, should I accept.

I grabbed my bags, took the bullet train back to Oslo airport and I left for Cairo.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/ulsteinvik-to-cairo-24-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/


Saturday, August 2, 2008
Through Skøyen Station - Norway, 12-July 2008

On the 7th of July 2008, I flew from Newark to Copenhagen, Denmark. After a 7 ½ hr flight from Newark, I was relieved to land in Denmark. I think the Copenhagen airport was actually a shopping mall disguised as an airport.

<snipped>

The North Sea is a cold, volatile beast. One moment it is tranquil and picturesque, while the next it is an explosive, churning, and bone-chilling frenzy brimming with white caps. Last night, a long low-profile work vessel was operating within a mile of our vessel.

The offshore project manager, John told me that recently 18 people drowned on that same boat when it sank.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/through-skyen-station-norway-12-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/


Saturday, August 2, 2008
- Ulsteinvik to Cairo- 24-July
2345 hrs, Thursday July 24th – Cairo, Egypt

An announcement comes over the plane’s PA system breaking the silence: “Ladies and gentlemen we have begun our final decent into Cairo. On your left you will see the great pyramids. We hope you have enjoyed the flight.”

It’s 0200 hrs local time. Walking off the plane… “At least it’s not as hot as UAE”, I think to myself. “Please God; let my driver be waiting for me”. I was contacted about 12 hours earlier in Norway by a Dutch agent who needed me in Cairo ASAP and they were not afraid to pay a high price to get me here. All I know is there was to be a driver waiting for me. I don’t know who the client is, what the job is, what I’m doing in Egypt, or if I will even be staying in Egypt.

Posted by Kyle Kingman

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/2008/08/ulsteinvik-to-cairo-24-july.html

http://kylekingman.blogspot.com/

So, Kyle is working on his novel again?

[klaasend]

How is Lala's Johan??

I can answer that.  Lala's is busy at Goldmonkeys copying all of the documents/statments in the NH case from SM and pasting them at GM.  It appears she has finally been made an official moderator at GM so kudos to Lala's 

[Keepthefaith]

How is Lala's Johan??

I can answer that.  Lala's is busy at Goldmonkeys copying all of the documents/statments in the NH case from SM and pasting them at GM.  It appears she has finally been made an official moderator at GM so kudos to Lala's 

You are to smart Klaas!

[Tamikosmom]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #758 on: March 14, 2008, 12:56:35 AM »

I forgot to add that I loved the message from Kyle that it is a requirement to maintain hope. I would give anything to have to eat a great big plate of crow with Kyle watching me choke on it, meaning that the Arubans are sincerely his partner. And I want him to come to his own conclusion. But I really like him, he has definitely proven his worth, and for some dumb reason I feel like he needs my protection, which is a joke. Just keep your guard up Kyle is all I am saying. There have been some very strange happenings in this case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

I hope Kyle heeds these words carefully!He is amongst a lot of shady people!

Keepthefaith ... when I read Private Eye's post again ... my thoughts reflects yours.

Some very powerful Arubans and Americans who have a history of corrupt dealings are not about to take the fall because of a marine geologist named Kyle Kingman.

I contend that it is possible that Kyle Kingman's well being implies that he must approach the FBI and ... reveal all while being video taped as witnesses observe.

Kyle could emerge as the hero in the Natalee Holloway story ... the hero who exposed the finale to the great Aruban coverup.

Janet

[Lifesong]

I'm sorry, Janet - that came out much more flippant than I meant it! 

I'll just be honest, I'm sick to death of Kyle.  I'm sick of all of his words ... and they just keep coming!  Lord, son.  2 ears...1 mouth.  Think about it!

Not to mention the trap.  However it happened, they got chumped right out of Natalee's remains. 

I don't hold these people ill will and I'm not out to hurt them, if they are decent business people at all they will earn business just from being in the area, that doesn't mean there was a secret deal for Natalee's remains.  And I don't want to just pick on Kyle. 

I am so appalled by the hiding from the family and the FBI the ROV videos, the attempted media manipulation and the eventual selling of the rights to them for a documentary that I cannot overlook it.  I will not just not do anything, not say anything. 

I wasn't going to go see BFN, but I did.  I didn't read much, just the beginning page with Debbie's original post.  I do see the other perspective, I believe them when they express how they feel about it.  And the whole thing hurts.   

Moreover, it is not only unproductive, but just plain ridiculous that a reasoned and rational discussion of the issues cannot be had by all sides together without it degenerating into crazy. 

[Keepthefaith]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #758 on: March 14, 2008, 12:56:35 AM »

I forgot to add that I loved the message from Kyle that it is a requirement to maintain hope. I would give anything to have to eat a great big plate of crow with Kyle watching me choke on it, meaning that the Arubans are sincerely his partner. And I want him to come to his own conclusion. But I really like him, he has definitely proven his worth, and for some dumb reason I feel like he needs my protection, which is a joke. Just keep your guard up Kyle is all I am saying. There have been some very strange happenings in this case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

I hope Kyle heeds these words carefully!He is amongst a lot of shady people!

Keepthefaith ... when I read Private Eye's post again ... my thoughts reflects yours.

Some very powerful Arubans and Americans who have a history of corrupt dealings are not about to take the fall because of a marine geologist named Kyle Kingman.

I contend that it is possible that Kyle Kingman's well being implies that he must approach the FBI and ... reveal all while being video taped as witnesses observe.

Kyle could emerge as the hero in the Natalee Holloway story ... the hero who exposed the finale to the great Aruban coverup.

Janet

I think Beth's brother hit the nail on the head.God bless him.I pray for Kyle!Truly and honestly.Living day to day knowing what encompassed the cage/trap scenario has got to be a heavy weight to carry.Not only in this lifetime either!

[Magnolia]

Private Eye: “I don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office.  I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.”

Thank you Lifesong.  I have been searching for that quote for some time now.  I have provided the source below.

Somehow the concerns of Beth Holloway's brother regarding the unholy alliance between John Silvetti and the Arubans who have prevented justice from prevailing since the get-go is not a problem for some who have made a claim to support justice for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

______

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

Private Eye reached out to Kyle and what did he get????He says "We need you kyle"..What was Kyle offered to turn his cheek?

private eye (Beth Holloway's Brother)
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #758 on: March 14, 2008, 12:56:35 AM »

I forgot to add that I loved the message from Kyle that it is a requirement to maintain hope. I would give anything to have to eat a great big plate of crow with Kyle watching me choke on it, meaning that the Arubans are sincerely his partner. And I want him to come to his own conclusion. But I really like him, he has definitely proven his worth, and for some dumb reason I feel like he needs my protection, which is a joke. Just keep your guard up Kyle is all I am saying. There have been some very strange happenings in this case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

I felt protective of Kyle just like Private Eye said.  I felt foolish when all of his words proved where his heart was.

[klaasend]

How is Lala's Johan??

I can answer that.  Lala's is busy at Goldmonkeys copying all of the documents/statments in the NH case from SM and pasting them at GM.  It appears she has finally been made an official moderator at GM so kudos to Lala's 

You are to smart Klaas!

Also, FWIW the boycott aruba Vicki spells her name Vicki and not Vicky

[Keepthefaith]

I'm sorry, Janet - that came out much more flippant than I meant it! 

I'll just be honest, I'm sick to death of Kyle.  I'm sick of all of his words ... and they just keep coming!  Lord, son.  2 ears...1 mouth.  Think about it!

Not to mention the trap.  However it happened, they got chumped right out of Natalee's remains. 

I don't hold these people ill will and I'm not out to hurt them, if they are decent business people at all they will earn business just from being in the area, that doesn't mean there was a secret deal for Natalee's remains.  And I don't want to just pick on Kyle. 

I am so appalled by the hiding from the family and the FBI the ROV videos, the attempted media manipulation and the eventual selling of the rights to them for a documentary that I cannot overlook it.  I will not just not do anything, not say anything. 

I wasn't going to go see BFN, but I did.  I didn't read much, just the beginning page with Debbie's original post.  I do see the other perspective, I believe them when they express how they feel about it.  And the whole thing hurts.   

Moreover, it is not only unproductive, but just plain ridiculous that a reasoned and rational discussion of the issues cannot be had by all sides together without it degenerating into crazy. 

I agree LifeSong.Rational is the key word.Answering questions with logic,as well as deductive reason is the other.Me personally.These posters need to reconcile What Kyle said.He was in a tough position and folded!A girl still remains missing.We'll never know if she was in the cage or not??Why?I believe something nefarious occured with many different people affiliated with the search!This is all just my opinion...

KEEPTHEFAITH

[Magnolia]

Do you think jen's response to BFN will be copied and pasted???? ....................... I doubt it.

No, according to the head of that blog THEY do not copy and paste.  What do you think?

   Well, do you think any of them will actually READ it at SM??

No doubt about it.  They now have all the CnG group (formerly SM) posting there.

Anyone else ever notice how former posters from here attacked and attacked and attacked other posters.  They then go elsewhere and pretend THEY were the ones being attacked.

Just unreal to me.

I read on the Gold Monkey discussion forum where SS was undermining me by mimicking my writing style.  That bothered me to some extent because my writing style has nothing to do with the Persistence topic ... the CAPS topic.  I would rather SS would just say ... I disagree with Tamikosmom position on Kyle Kingman/John Silvetti because ....

However ... what really hurt was Vicky's response.

Other than positive communication which involved the Aruba protests ... I do not believe we have ever dialogued.

 

Janet

I thought that SS had stooped to a new low of bitterness when I read that, Janet.
I was so disappointed in her.

[Anna]

Do you think jen's response to BFN will be copied and pasted???? ....................... I doubt it.

No, according to the head of that blog THEY do not copy and paste.  What do you think?

   Well, do you think any of them will actually READ it at SM??

No doubt about it.  They now have all the CnG group (formerly SM) posting there.

Anyone else ever notice how former posters from here attacked and attacked and attacked other posters.  They then go elsewhere and pretend THEY were the ones being attacked.

Just unreal to me.

I read on the Gold Monkey discussion forum where SS was undermining me by mimicking my writing style.  That bothered me to some extent because my writing style has nothing to do with the Persistence topic ... the CAPS topic.  I would rather SS would just say ... I disagree with Tamikosmom position on Kyle Kingman/John Silvetti because ....

However ... what really hurt was Vicky's response.

Other than positive communication which involved the Aruba protests ... I do not believe we have ever dialogued.

 

Janet

I thought that SS had stooped to a new low of bitterness when I read that, Janet.
I was so disappointed in her.

And the attack SS claims happened never did.  SS said those things then pretended other posters here had.  SS was asked to show where anybody said any of those things and could not because no one said them.