Caylee Marie Anthony #113 3/04/09 - 3/06/09

[Bearlyhere]

jr ... love love love the new avi!

 

[Babybear]

----------->SNIP
ARE THEY SUPPORTING  CASEY

DID THEY TURN ON HER
--------------> SNIP

I will take a bite at this.  Disclaimer first - it is a tabloid.
Okay, are the supporting casey - well maybe after all they don't want the little slore to toss them under the bus to get herself off.  However.......
Did they turn on her - well maybe, because they did as for immunity from LE.
Now here is my support for either theory - cindy hugging biaz in court the other day. 
Did she hug him to show support or to pisz casey off?
If you want, I can send a bucket of mud with this post!

At the risk of appearing like a shameless plug to my article:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/03/casey-anthony-case-new-attorney-todd-macaluso-reconstructing-the-train-wreck/

I believe this will happen and Macaluso has been brought on to facilitate that. I know nobody want to hear or believe it, but this baby killer has a dog in the fight she did not have before. He is her best shot and he has the added benefit of actually knowing what happened to Caylee in that house from Casey. She has to drop the ZG story, its a boat anchor anymore.
What choice does she have? Nobody actually believes this girl is going to just drop the sham and confess-

Lastly, as again reitterated by Hoover's statement yesterday, this girl is the Golden Fleece to these vultures, especially if it goes to trial. The A's want control of Caylee's estate- the only way that will happen is if Casey is convicted.

Therefore they know have opposing strategies but need to appear united to each other. Cindy put out those YouTube videos to counter Casey's reaction to the news about them being guests of the Ritz while she was in the sick bay.

Alright now Im piffed all over again.. aah. Monkey groan.

Blink

I believe you, I also have been reading that Todd M is an expert at cross examination, he is her best shot, like it or not he is a fighter with an excellent record.

I think it's been speculated, but I never heard for certain... that Todd M has not tried a Criminal case before... he just does accident?  I think it would be much, much easier to win a car, train or airplane accident case than a murder case.  Most of the time it's human error or mechanical failure where a jury feels that a company or person should be held responsible for and compensate the victims for a catastrophe?  I'm hoping he turns out to not be anywhere  near as good as he "makes himself up to be"!  And it blows up in their faces.  But they are not comparing apples to apples when they are talking about him winning cases.  JMO  <fingers crossed>... I SOOOOOO hope the prosecution releases a true "bombshell"!!!

Seascape- he is not a criminal defense attorney- strictly plaintiffs. I have reviewed his case files extensively, I promise you he is a contender, and has nothing to do with aviation knowledge, that was just his niche at the time. Again, I know we all want to resist the possibility that he is "all that" but he really is.

Good morning, monkies---

I agree with you, Blink.  I hate the possibility that Casey will not be convicted of First Degree murder, but I don't think it will ever happen.  I saw nothing in yesterday's document release which adds to the case against her, and really, although we all believe she murdered Caylee, I just don't see that the evidence to convict her of it is there.  Add to that this new attorney, as well as all of the others which somehow Baez has managed to assemble, and the prosecution has a really hard row to hoe.  I will be surprised if she spends more that two or three years in jail if at all. 

Maybe the prosecution has a lot more than we know and maybe there are fingerprints on the duct tape.  I certainly hope so. 

I don't believe much of what Hoover had to say and while I love the story about the licorice, I think we all know it isn't true.  If D.Casey witnessed anything, it wasn't while Casey was with Baez.  D. Casey could only communicate with Casey through the jail's video system where the person who is incarcerated is not even in the same building with the visitor.  The visitor is across the street from the jail.

I believe Casey deliberately killed Caylee by putting duct tape over her nose and mouth.  I do not believe she will ever be convicted of it.

I have only recently read your website, and I must say that your writing is excellent and you have an extremely good grasp of the law, as well as the facts in this case. 

KC has already had bad luck with those on her case named Todd.  This is just more bad luck for KC.  Justice will be Caylee's.  I am not worried about Todd Will-lose-o.

  I sincerely doubt that the name "Todd" will affect the case one way or the other and there are probably hundreds of humorous variations of Mr. Macaluso's name. Nor will it be affected by the fact that those who follow it might or might not be worried.  The facts are just the facts.  I guess I just don't take this personally as it doesn't really affect my life. 

[Bearlyhere]

Hoover said that D. Casey told him JB and Casey shared a piece of licorice "Lady & Tramp" style during jail visit

goodnmad, was it identified which one was the lady & which one was the tramp?

 

[Lovinlife]

O/T new post up on Blink's site:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/03/06/brit-silences-boyfriend-by-biting-his-tongue-for-him/

Thanks Klaas a little break from the streses of these peeps..

That is quite a story.  Blink I went back and read your article on the new lawyer, do you know if he is doing this pro bono? Thanks

I had to read your post twice No Rose, for some reason I thought you said "is he doing this for porno?"

Every time someone refers to Dr. Perper, I think they're saying Dr. Pepper! AAAHHHH  Dr. Pepper...

[NickandNora]

when was Casey Ho EVER a productive member of society???
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When she produced Caylee.   


[/quote]

  The one and only most beautiful thing she was involved in. How could anyone call that little darling a snot head? Caseymonster was blessed with something so precious and had no clue at all.

[Bearlyhere]

----------->SNIP
ARE THEY SUPPORTING  CASEY

DID THEY TURN ON HER
--------------> SNIP

I will take a bite at this.  Disclaimer first - it is a tabloid.
Okay, are the supporting casey - well maybe after all they don't want the little slore to toss them under the bus to get herself off.  However.......
Did they turn on her - well maybe, because they did as for immunity from LE.
Now here is my support for either theory - cindy hugging biaz in court the other day. 
Did she hug him to show support or to pisz casey off?
If you want, I can send a bucket of mud with this post!

At the risk of appearing like a shameless plug to my article:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/03/casey-anthony-case-new-attorney-todd-macaluso-reconstructing-the-train-wreck/

I believe this will happen and Macaluso has been brought on to facilitate that. I know nobody want to hear or believe it, but this baby killer has a dog in the fight she did not have before. He is her best shot and he has the added benefit of actually knowing what happened to Caylee in that house from Casey. She has to drop the ZG story, its a boat anchor anymore.
What choice does she have? Nobody actually believes this girl is going to just drop the sham and confess-

Lastly, as again reitterated by Hoover's statement yesterday, this girl is the Golden Fleece to these vultures, especially if it goes to trial. The A's want control of Caylee's estate- the only way that will happen is if Casey is convicted.

Therefore they know have opposing strategies but need to appear united to each other. Cindy put out those YouTube videos to counter Casey's reaction to the news about them being guests of the Ritz while she was in the sick bay.

Alright now Im piffed all over again.. aah. Monkey groan.

Blink

I believe you, I also have been reading that Todd M is an expert at cross examination, he is her best shot, like it or not he is a fighter with an excellent record.

I think it's been speculated, but I never heard for certain... that Todd M has not tried a Criminal case before... he just does accident?  I think it would be much, much easier to win a car, train or airplane accident case than a murder case.  Most of the time it's human error or mechanical failure where a jury feels that a company or person should be held responsible for and compensate the victims for a catastrophe?  I'm hoping he turns out to not be anywhere  near as good as he "makes himself up to be"!  And it blows up in their faces.  But they are not comparing apples to apples when they are talking about him winning cases.  JMO  <fingers crossed>... I SOOOOOO hope the prosecution releases a true "bombshell"!!!

Seascape- he is not a criminal defense attorney- strictly plaintiffs. I have reviewed his case files extensively, I promise you he is a contender, and has nothing to do with aviation knowledge, that was just his niche at the time. Again, I know we all want to resist the possibility that he is "all that" but he really is.

Good morning, monkies---

I agree with you, Blink.  I hate the possibility that Casey will not be convicted of First Degree murder, but I don't think it will ever happen.  I saw nothing in yesterday's document release which adds to the case against her, and really, although we all believe she murdered Caylee, I just don't see that the evidence to convict her of it is there.  Add to that this new attorney, as well as all of the others which somehow Baez has managed to assemble, and the prosecution has a really hard row to hoe.  I will be surprised if she spends more that two or three years in jail if at all. 

Maybe the prosecution has a lot more than we know and maybe there are fingerprints on the duct tape.  I certainly hope so. 

I don't believe much of what Hoover had to say and while I love the story about the licorice, I think we all know it isn't true.  If D.Casey witnessed anything, it wasn't while Casey was with Baez.  D. Casey could only communicate with Casey through the jail's video system where the person who is incarcerated is not even in the same building with the visitor.  The visitor is across the street from the jail.

I believe Casey deliberately killed Caylee by putting duct tape over her nose and mouth.  I do not believe she will ever be convicted of it.

I have only recently read your website, and I must say that your writing is excellent and you have an extremely good grasp of the law, as well as the facts in this case. 

KC has already had bad luck with those on her case named Todd.  This is just more bad luck for KC.  Justice will be Caylee's.  I am not worried about Todd Will-lose-o.

  I sincerely doubt that the name "Todd" will affect the case one way or the other and there are probably hundreds of humorous variations of Mr. Macaluso's name. Nor will it be affected by the fact that those who follow it might or might not be worried.  The facts are just the facts.  I guess I just don't take this personally as it doesn't really affect my life. 

Of course the name Todd does not make a difference.

I do take this seriously as injustice affects my life, especially a high profile injustice that may pave the way for copy cat tot moms.

[Babybear]

I also wanted to comment, Blink, you also don't think this is going to trial, why do you feel this?

I think she will plea. I think the A's will have no choice but to throw her under the bus to save their own asses when she points the finger at them. Implosion.

Pray they seek a new bond hearing, pray Baez deal with GilTod is exposed, this goes quickly, imo.

I agree.  It will be pled down to some degree of manslaughter.  Five years maybe with two or three off because of good behaviour and time served. In addition to exposing Baez and his deal with Todd/Gil, I'd sort of like to see Conway be called out for lying to the judge last week about George's TV cameos.  And Cindy should go to jail for chewing gum with her mouth open, or even for just chewing gum.

[Babybear]

----------->SNIP
ARE THEY SUPPORTING  CASEY

DID THEY TURN ON HER
--------------> SNIP

I will take a bite at this.  Disclaimer first - it is a tabloid.
Okay, are the supporting casey - well maybe after all they don't want the little slore to toss them under the bus to get herself off.  However.......
Did they turn on her - well maybe, because they did as for immunity from LE.
Now here is my support for either theory - cindy hugging biaz in court the other day. 
Did she hug him to show support or to pisz casey off?
If you want, I can send a bucket of mud with this post!

At the risk of appearing like a shameless plug to my article:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/03/casey-anthony-case-new-attorney-todd-macaluso-reconstructing-the-train-wreck/

I believe this will happen and Macaluso has been brought on to facilitate that. I know nobody want to hear or believe it, but this baby killer has a dog in the fight she did not have before. He is her best shot and he has the added benefit of actually knowing what happened to Caylee in that house from Casey. She has to drop the ZG story, its a boat anchor anymore.
What choice does she have? Nobody actually believes this girl is going to just drop the sham and confess-

Lastly, as again reitterated by Hoover's statement yesterday, this girl is the Golden Fleece to these vultures, especially if it goes to trial. The A's want control of Caylee's estate- the only way that will happen is if Casey is convicted.

Therefore they know have opposing strategies but need to appear united to each other. Cindy put out those YouTube videos to counter Casey's reaction to the news about them being guests of the Ritz while she was in the sick bay.

Alright now Im piffed all over again.. aah. Monkey groan.

Blink

I believe you, I also have been reading that Todd M is an expert at cross examination, he is her best shot, like it or not he is a fighter with an excellent record.

I think it's been speculated, but I never heard for certain... that Todd M has not tried a Criminal case before... he just does accident?  I think it would be much, much easier to win a car, train or airplane accident case than a murder case.  Most of the time it's human error or mechanical failure where a jury feels that a company or person should be held responsible for and compensate the victims for a catastrophe?  I'm hoping he turns out to not be anywhere  near as good as he "makes himself up to be"!  And it blows up in their faces.  But they are not comparing apples to apples when they are talking about him winning cases.  JMO  <fingers crossed>... I SOOOOOO hope the prosecution releases a true "bombshell"!!!

Seascape- he is not a criminal defense attorney- strictly plaintiffs. I have reviewed his case files extensively, I promise you he is a contender, and has nothing to do with aviation knowledge, that was just his niche at the time. Again, I know we all want to resist the possibility that he is "all that" but he really is.

Good morning, monkies---

I agree with you, Blink.  I hate the possibility that Casey will not be convicted of First Degree murder, but I don't think it will ever happen.  I saw nothing in yesterday's document release which adds to the case against her, and really, although we all believe she murdered Caylee, I just don't see that the evidence to convict her of it is there.  Add to that this new attorney, as well as all of the others which somehow Baez has managed to assemble, and the prosecution has a really hard row to hoe.  I will be surprised if she spends more that two or three years in jail if at all. 

Maybe the prosecution has a lot more than we know and maybe there are fingerprints on the duct tape.  I certainly hope so. 

I don't believe much of what Hoover had to say and while I love the story about the licorice, I think we all know it isn't true.  If D.Casey witnessed anything, it wasn't while Casey was with Baez.  D. Casey could only communicate with Casey through the jail's video system where the person who is incarcerated is not even in the same building with the visitor.  The visitor is across the street from the jail.

I believe Casey deliberately killed Caylee by putting duct tape over her nose and mouth.  I do not believe she will ever be convicted of it.

I have only recently read your website, and I must say that your writing is excellent and you have an extremely good grasp of the law, as well as the facts in this case. 

KC has already had bad luck with those on her case named Todd.  This is just more bad luck for KC.  Justice will be Caylee's.  I am not worried about Todd Will-lose-o.

  I sincerely doubt that the name "Todd" will affect the case one way or the other and there are probably hundreds of humorous variations of Mr. Macaluso's name. Nor will it be affected by the fact that those who follow it might or might not be worried.  The facts are just the facts.  I guess I just don't take this personally as it doesn't really affect my life. 

Of course the name Todd does not make a difference.

I do take this seriously as injustice affects my life, especially a high profile injustice that may pave the way for copy cat tot moms.

Whatever.

[NickandNora]

When Casey turned around to look at her parents in the court room, didnt you think her head would keep going around and spilt pea soup would spew from her mouth?????

ROFL

It was super creepy! She stinks at acting. That looked no where near happy to see her parents.

Oh I wish I could sit here longer and giggle with my new monkey friends. I have to run errands. Wah. C ya'll later!

Nora

[Lovinlife]

I agree Bearly! Trying not to start a ruckus here but if no one stands up for the victims than what will we have as a society?  Can of worms I really don't want to open here...

Where's Muffybee been hiding?

[jr]

A while back, it was mentioned the possibility of aliens being involved.

Maybe it wasn't so farfetched afterall!

[no rose colored glasses]

I also wanted to comment, Blink, you also don't think this is going to trial, why do you feel this?

I think she will plea. I think the A's will have no choice but to throw her under the bus to save their own asses when she points the finger at them. Implosion.

Pray they seek a new bond hearing, pray Baez deal with GilTod is exposed, this goes quickly, imo.

I agree.  It will be pled down to some degree of manslaughter.  Five years maybe with two or three off because of good behaviour and time served. In addition to exposing Baez and his deal with Todd/Gil, I'd sort of like to see Conway be called out for lying to the judge last week about George's TV cameos.  And Cindy should go to jail for chewing gum with her mouth open, or even for just chewing gum.

I believe that is going to be the reality, some degree of manslaughter.

[Gypsy DD]

  It's really so much fun...I love the 2's and 3's....I know know who came up with the term "terrible two's" but I totally disagree...

now for topic....I was reading some of the text messages and found this one

"He should NOT have talked to a detective...oh well, there will be a big hole but it will help"

I can't figure out who wrote it...does anyone know how to interpret these sheets?
TIA

Date/////Time(some approx)/// From & phone # ///To & phone#////message

7/20/08   6:32:50 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Morales, Ricardo    813-420-8750   Jessie asked if we could bring cell phone records with us to help confirm dates

7/20/08   6:35:43 PM   Brown, Troy    407-421-9700   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Ok

7/20/08   6:54:55 PM   Anthony, Lee   407-808-5132   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Jesse said his phone is dead but will still meet at 9

7/20/08   6:55:28 PM   Anthony, Lee   407-808-5132   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Jesse said his phone is dead but will still meet at 9

7/20/08   6:56:45 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Ok well...tell him this is just a friend thing to help and for all of us to talk to each other

7/20/08   6:56:48 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   tony will not be coming. He is only talking to detectives. If we have a specific question he said i could call but i promised it would only be me calling him

7/20/08   7:59:53 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   He should not have talked to a detective...oh well. There will be a big hole but it will help

7/20/08   7:59:55 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   I did, he talked to his parents and a detective and said he was advised to not talk. The best i got was that if we had a question we could call

7/20/08   8:11:40 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   We will do everything we can. And we do have one phone call

7/20/08   8:11:46 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Its like who wants to be a millionaire

7/20/08   8:11:47 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   Seriously

7/20/08   8:41:47 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Leaving the anthony house now

7/20/08   8:55:14 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Going to be ten minutes late

7/20/08   8:55:15 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   Cool, well be there

7/20/08   8:56:20 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   Cool my phone was on vibrate

7/20/08   8:56:21 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Going to be ten minutes late

7/20/08   9:17:17 PM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Thats cool. Sorry about being late

7/20/08   9:17:18 PM   Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   
Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   Its cool

7/21/08   3:09:38 AM   Grund, Jesse   407-462-9293   
Huizenga, Amy   954-328-9214   Was a productive day. Agree with you that i am happy i met you out of this. Thanks for cheering me up tonight. Talk to you tomorrow

The first person is the one who made the call and second who it was made to. I think Jesse is saying he should not have talked to a detective ( Tony) because now he can't help them ( the friends) with the timeline. I say Tony did the right thing considering his position as the current bf anything less would have been suspect.

And what is interesting about that was that Jesse also went to the cops...I wonder if that was before this or a few days after this?  I know he was there pretty soon after she was arrested the first time.

[theboyzmom]

JSM - yes you will have to log in again from the new computer - I think there is a recover password function in the log in screen if you forget. HAVE A GREAT TIME!

[Sassycat]

Personally, I don't think it matters what new attorney Casey gets to represent her. The only thing, in my view, they can do is try to impeach the evidence against her. Even if the State had NO physical evidence against her, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.

I noticed Baez said in the hearing the other day that he believes his case isn't going to be any longer than the State's case. That tells me this is going to be a Scott Peterson like trial with the attorneys making BIG promises and assertions but when it comes right down to it, all they will do is try and poke holes in the prosecution's case, and that will be the end of it.

Casey hung herself with her own words and actions right from the beginning. She should get the stupidest criminal ever award.

And - GP - Thanks for the info on the Text Mesages.

[JuJu]

lol.....i am still watching the videos of LA's depo.....the boy answered a question by saying "oh, that's just poppycock"  who the hell says that.  they not only speak in code, they speak a whole different language than the rest of us...

[no rose colored glasses]

lol.....i am still watching the videos of LA's depo.....the boy answered a question by saying "oh, that's just poppycock"  who the hell says that.  they not only speak in code, they speak a whole different language than the rest of us...

Especially someone that age, it struck me so odd. 

[Dolce]

lol.....i am still watching the videos of LA's depo.....the boy answered a question by saying "oh, that's just poppycock"  who the hell says that.  they not only speak in code, they speak a whole different language than the rest of us...

I do not know about the term "poppycock", but we are a big Navy family and the term "scuttlebutt" is tossed around quite often...so who knows.  Look who his mother is.

[joesamas mama]

JSM - yes you will have to log in again from the new computer - I think there is a recover password function in the log in screen if you forget. HAVE A GREAT TIME!

Thanks bozymom!! I wasn't sure how that works and will be very sad if I have to lurk all next week.

[Gypsy DD]

Personally, I think that we are going to see this go down to the wire.

I think the State has an abundance of evidence we haven't seen..and a few smoking guns.

Then when we hear the DP is back on the table ....things will get ugly.  The DP will be put back on the table to be used as a bargaining tool.


I think the A's will try to stay in Casey's camp as long as possible to try to divert attention away from her.  She will begin to throw them under the bus in a few months.  Baez will bid his time with motions upon motions about evidence, etc.

The accident attorney may try to work up an accident story..but it won't fly..the truth doesn't change and that would be a third change to Casey's statement of the facts.  A jury would see a liar..not an innocent Mom.  People don't need to lie when they are innocent.  The new attorney will try , along with the special witnesses they will call to punch holes in the State's arguments....but I do not think that will fly either.

I think it will come down to a few days before trial and she will try to confess to accidental death.........................I don't think the state has to accept a plea bargain that doesn't fit the facts.   I see her then going on with the trial and receiving LWOP.

Just my thoughts..anyone, anyone?