Natalee Case Discussion #805 3/6/09 - 3/9/09

[Kermit]

it is a question to Kermit very simple

What I do not understand
Why a new search in Aruba ?
Kermit has given new evidence and all the new information to the family
(she told me here that Dave has all the information )
Can Kermit give  me an answer?
thank you!

kermit said on: December 05, 2008, 03:20:12 PM

I am aware that PI saw the photos.
I am aware that Beth & Dave have the photos.
I am aware that the fbi has the photos.

Kermit said this Дейв имеет информацию > that means Dave heeft de informatie.
And that means :    Dave has the information

The information about content of the cage.

So my only question is Kermit : are you sure that you gave Dave,Beth  & the FBI  that information & evidence about the human remains in the cage ?
You told me here :Dave has the information

Obviously Johann you have some information that you have gathered to prove I have lied and that Dave doesn't have the information according to you.

So, I'll tell ya what big man.


You post your proof.

Then I'll post mine.

Come on let's do it big boy!

[Anna]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

You seem to think you have the right to ask "1 simple question" yet you refuse to answer one yourself. 

So now when is the search?  Why doesn't Silvetti's sister know about it?  Did they forget to tell Dave Holloway as well?  Will the proceeds of this one also be turned over exclusively to the Arubans and only to the Arubans?

Not that I think you will answer but at least I can ask.

[San]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

When you ask a question and say you only want Kermit to answer you are going to get a lot of responses because I don't take orders to well.  It is a forum and you can't dictate what questions should be asked and what should be answered.

[Tamikosmom]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

Obviously ... Kermit has many friends and supporters who are thankful that justice for  Natalee Holloway and closure for her family is his/her priority.  That little frog took a risk and ... exposed the ultimate betrayal by John Silvetti ... the ultimate betrayal revealed in Kyle Kingman's own words.

Janet

[Kermit]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

I was at the Vancouver Aquarium yesterday and ... in the "Frogs Forever" section ... there must have been at least 50 different species of frogs and ... every one of them had the cutest little nose.  I can only assume that this confirms that frogs never lie.

Janet
 

ribbit

[Keepthefaith]

it is a question to Kermit very simple

What I do not understand
Why a new search in Aruba ?
Kermit has given new evidence and all the new information to the family
(she told me here that Dave has all the information )
Can Kermit give  me an answer?
thank you!

kermit said on: December 05, 2008, 03:20:12 PM

I am aware that PI saw the photos.
I am aware that Beth & Dave have the photos.
I am aware that the fbi has the photos.

Kermit said this Дейв имеет информацию > that means Dave heeft de informatie.
And that means :    Dave has the information

The information about content of the cage.

So my only question is Kermit : are you sure that you gave Dave,Beth  & the FBI  that information & evidence about the human remains in the cage ?
You told me here :Dave has the information

Obviously Johann you have some information that you have gathered to prove I have lied and that Dave doesn't have the information according to you.

So, I'll tell ya what big man.


You post your proof.

Then I'll post mine.

Come on let's do it big boy!

WE ALL PATIENTLY AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE JOHAN555!

[San]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

Obviously ... Kermit has many friends and supporters who are thankful that justice for  Natalee Holloway and closure for her family is his/her priority.  That little frog took a risk and ... exposed the ultimate betrayal by John Silvetti ... the ultimate betrayal revealed in Kyle Kingman's own words.

Janet

 

[texasmom]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

That statement alone is very telling Johan....never thought you'd lower yourself to "puppet" duty.   

[2NJSons_Mom]

I'm sorry if this is a repeat.

********

PetroChina, Petrobras pursue Aruba refinery-sources
Reuters - Saturday, March 7(Adds Ecopetrol interest, paragraph 2; Valero comment, paragraph 5; background, paragraphs 10-18; byline)


By Erwin Seba

HOUSTON, March 6 - Top Asian oil and natural gas producer PetroChina <PTR.N> <0857.HK> <601857.SS> and Brazil's state-owned oil company Petrobras <PBR.N> <PETR4.SA> were seen as potential bidders for Valero Energy Corp's <VLO.N> refinery in Aruba, sources familiar with Valero's attempts to sell the refinery said on Friday.

Colombia's state-run oil company Ecopetrol <ECO.CN> <EC.N> was also interested in the 275,000 barrel per day refinery Valero put up for sale in November 2007, said another source familiar with the matter.

PetroChina's interest has been known for sometime on the island off Venezuela's coast and was even reported in a local newspaper, according to the sources.

Petrobras renewed its interest in the refinery late last year after pursuing a sale early in 2008 that ended after a January fire at the plant.

"More than one company has expressed an interest in the refinery," said Valero spokesman Bill Day, who declined to identify any of the interested companies.

Representatives from PetroChina and Ecopetrol were not immediately available. A spokeswoman for Petrobras said the company had no immediate comment.

Representatives from PetroChina have twice toured the refinery, the sources said, and a third visit had been scheduled.

PetroChina officials have also met government officials to discuss an exemption for the refinery from Aruba's 28-percent tax rate that expires at the end of 2010 and a tax dispute underway with Valero.

"Valero and the government can't come to agreement on the tax issue, so Valero wants to sell," one of the sources said.

Valero and Aruba are arbitrating a dispute over an additional tax the government placed on the refinery.

Valero has said it wants to sell the Aruba refinery because it cannot make finished gasoline for the U.S. market without further expensive upgrades. The company says it has already put $500 million into the plant.

Valero ships intermediate feedstock from Aruba to its U.S. Gulf Coast and East Coast refineries.

Valero's asking price, thought to be between $1 billion and $2 billion, for a refinery requiring additional billions in improvements, and the tax issues are thought to be the biggest stumbling blocks to a sale, the sources said.

Day declined to discuss a price tag for the refinery purchased for $495 million in 2004.

"We're considering our options," Day said. "We don't have to sell. If we don't get a good offer, we'll keep it."

Beginning in 2007, Petrobras pursued a purchase of the Aruba refinery.

A sale to Petrobras was due to be announced in January 2008, but was put on hold when one of the refinery's crude distillation vacuum units was heavily damaged in a late January fire. The entire refinery was shut for about two weeks and the crude unit returned to service at the end of May 2008.

Due to an internal dispute within Petrobras, the company dropped its plans to acquire the Aruba refinery and temporarily stalled in its effort to acquire complete ownership of a 100,000 bpd Pasadena, Texas, refinery.

With the internal disagreement resolved, Petrobras is renewing its interest in the Aruba refinery, the sources. (Additional reporting by Brian Ellsworth in Caracas; Editing by Christian Wiessner)

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20090306/tbs-valero-aruba-sale-7318940.html?printer=1

Since Kermit just reposted a smidgeon about Petrobas, I thought I'd bring this forward.  Looks like there are 3 oil/gas entities interested in Valero at the moment.  Seems owners of offshore vessels have lotsa opportunity to win contract bids. 

[Rob]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

That statement alone is very telling Johan....never thought you'd lower yourself to "puppet" duty.   

it must be hell walking around all day with *******'s hand up your ass!!!

[klaasend]

To ban or not to ban 

[Kermit]

it is a question to Kermit very simple

What I do not understand
Why a new search in Aruba ?
Kermit has given new evidence and all the new information to the family
(she told me here that Dave has all the information )
Can Kermit give  me an answer?
thank you!

kermit said on: December 05, 2008, 03:20:12 PM

I am aware that PI saw the photos.
I am aware that Beth & Dave have the photos.
I am aware that the fbi has the photos.

Kermit said this Дейв имеет информацию > that means Dave heeft de informatie.
And that means :    Dave has the information

The information about content of the cage.

So my only question is Kermit : are you sure that you gave Dave,Beth  & the FBI  that information & evidence about the human remains in the cage ?
You told me here :Dave has the information

Obviously Johann you have some information that you have gathered to prove I have lied and that Dave doesn't have the information according to you.

So, I'll tell ya what big man.


You post your proof.

Then I'll post mine.

Come on let's do it big boy!

Come on down johann

post your proof that according to you I am lying and Dave Holloway doesn't have the information.


DO IT!





 

[Rob]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

That statement alone is very telling Johan....never thought you'd lower yourself to "puppet" duty.   

it must be hell walking around all day with O ((edit))S hand up your ass!!!

self edit

Sorry Rob - there for a reason

[Tamikosmom]

To ban or not to ban 

 

[Kermit]

it must be hell walking around all day with *******'s hand up your ass!!!

  ROB that is too funny. monkey poop.

[Keepthefaith]

To ban or not to ban 

I think Johan555 not answering Kermit is enough!!

[Kermit]

KLASSEND ROFLMAO!

[texasmom]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

That statement alone is very telling Johan....never thought you'd lower yourself to "puppet" duty.   

it must be hell walking around all day with *******'s hand up your ass!!!

Yep, he did say once that all the Dutch posters that HE brought over here would do whatever he said; I didn't believe it......all but one have proven me wrong.

[Lifesong]

What i have trouble with is Johan lacks the capability to answer the simplest question!

i asked Kermit only 1 simple question 

johann how tall are you?

how long is your nose Kermit?

that was uncalled for - Johan - juss ask Klaas for the button... is that what you're after?

When i ask 1 simple question they attack me with 15 people ! very childish !

That statement alone is very telling Johan....never thought you'd lower yourself to "puppet" duty.   

it must be hell walking around all day with *******'s hand up your ass!!!

              

[wreck]

To ban or not to ban 

Don't ban him until he answers Kermit's challenge!