Natalee Case Discussion #805 3/6/09 - 3/9/09

[klaasend]

IF - they are planning a new search then why haven't they asked for donations?

IF - they are planning a new search then why hasn't it been published in the USA?  Why only one Dutch article?

Would be very interesting to know how that one Dutch newspaper got that story.  

This is a respected publication but we don't know what their source was:

http://www.ad.nl/buitenland/3007028/Dave_Holloway_geeft_zoektocht_Natalee_niet_op.html

[Edward]

did ya notice the pattern?

mafia controlled
AHTA influence
Dutch Prosecutor's with agendas and it ain't to bring justice
Donation money
Silvetti/Schaefer OIL & vessels oh my
Lawsuits/investors/Petrobras/switch assets and MONEY
accuse and twist faster then chubby checker

I did notice, and have noticed the whole time.

1.Mafia controlled Aruba, fully involved in Drugs,smuggling, corruption, gambling, drugs, prostitution, murders hidden as suicides.
2. Silvetti with a agenda in oil exploration, But he did include Natalee. It appears to actually be designed to bleed donation money away from the Holloway group while accomplishing the first agenda of mapping the ocean floor for Aruba.
This would be the business people and politicians on Aruba that would like to see Dave Holloway crippled in any further search attempts.
3. OIL is a dirty business, full of corruption and mafia type people. U.S. and Russian oil is riddled with it. Oil industry is connected to almost everything from car manufacturing to teachers unions to insurance companies and hotels and gambling and the list goes on and on.
 

[Kermit]

did ya notice the pattern?

mafia controlled
AHTA influence
Dutch Prosecutor's with agendas and it ain't to bring justice
Donation money
Silvetti/Schaefer OIL & vessels oh my
Lawsuits/investors/Petrobras/switch assets and MONEY
accuse and twist faster then chubby checker

I did notice, and have noticed the whole time.

1.Mafia controlled Aruba, fully involved in Drugs,smuggling, corruption, gambling, drugs, prostitution, murders hidden as suicides.
2. Silvetti with a agenda in oil exploration, But he did include Natalee. It appears to actually be designed to bleed donation money away from the Holloway group while accomplishing the first agenda of mapping the ocean floor for Aruba.
This would be the business people and politicians on Aruba that would like to see Dave Holloway crippled in any further search attempts.
3. OIL is a dirty business, full of corruption and mafia type people. U.S. and Russian oil is riddled with it. Oil industry is connected to almost everything from car manufacturing to teachers unions to insurance companies and hotels and gambling and the list goes on and on.
 

Teachers unions investing in oil companies.
Amazing.

[Sleuth]

Johan,  you think that everyone is attacking you, but I recall many monkeys patiently answering your questions, many of which were ones that had been discussed years ago.  Anyone challenging you is simply because you do not recriprocate when you are asked a question.

It is only fair that KTF receives an answer to a simple question.

Kermit has never brought information that can not be backed up.  To me, that says a lot. 

[Keepthefaith]

Not it! 

[Tamikosmom]

The so-called search for Natalee Holloway's remains following the December 30, 2007 Dateline dive was nothing but a smokescreen to direct attention away from the trap and ... give the deceptive impression that it held nothing case related.

John Silvetti had determine that there was nothing case related in that trap prior to the December 30, 2007 Dateline dive.  He never put any faith in his very own on board professional ROV analyst.

Janet

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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman: The "99.9%" came independantly from Tim Miller to Dave H. on Dec 29th, prior to the diver visual inspection of the trap. I can't imagine what that must have felt like to be told and then completely retracted the next day. I couldn't believe the information was prematurely leaked to the family before we knew what we were looking at. My heart broke for Dave and Beth.  Personally, I fed off of Tim's inflated confidence and my own on the night of Dec 29th. I did not sleep. Few of us did. The only person able to remain completely objective, much to his credit, was John Silvetti. In hindsight, I am in awe of him for his wisdom(from past hard experiences) and strength. At the time, I thought he was nuts for not siding with the rest of us after the first dive.

Kyle Kingman:  I hadn't slept in 48 hours. I crashed for a few hours rest and by the time I got up Dateline and Tim Miller had left the boat. That is when John [Silvetti] assumed full control over the remainder of the project and had us searching in the deepest portions of our search area which coincided with Richardson's remarks. Richardson told us after the Jan-7th dive to keep searching in deep water.

Kyle Kingman:  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive. We were encouraged to do so and invited by the Arubans. I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.

[Sleuth]

Rob - thank you for the call to TJ Ward.

[Keepthefaith]

Rob - thank you for the call to TJ Ward.

AMEN..As well,i love the posts Rob..

[can]

Klaas - o/t - Boo posted in Prayer requests that Dolce was taken to emergency this afternoon with pains in her side and lower abdomen.

[Keepthefaith]

Johannnnnnnn,johannnnnnnn,ohhhh johannnnnnnn...WE ARE ALL PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THE PROOF.........

[klaasend]

Klaas - o/t - Boo posted in Prayer requests that Dolce was taken to emergency this afternoon with pains in her side and lower abdomen.

Hi Can - thanks..I did see it and I guess the babies are OK, it was posted in Musings.  Also, I started a thread for Dolce in the Monkey Lounge.  I think she's OK.

[can]

Klaas - o/t - Boo posted in Prayer requests that Dolce was taken to emergency this afternoon with pains in her side and lower abdomen.

Hi Can - thanks..I did see it and I guess the babies are OK, it was posted in Musings.  Also, I started a thread for Dolce in the Monkey Lounge.  I think she's OK.

Oh...thank goodness Klaas!  Thank you!

[Tamikosmom]

If after reading Kyle Kingman's own words and observing the ROV images ... Tim Miller and Dave Holloway join up with John Silvetti to continue the search in Aruban waters for Natalee's remains ... I am done and ... I mean it.  If Kyle Kingman and Tim Trahan are participants in the scenario ... I will scream.

Janet

[Lifesong]

Johannnnnnnn,johannnnnnnn,ohhhh johannnnnnnn...WE ARE ALL PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THE PROOF.........

 

I think he choked and Voldemort ******** demoted him back to copy 'n paste!

        

[Keepthefaith]

If after reading Kyle Kingman's own words and observing the ROV images ... Tim Miller and Dave Holloway join up with John Silvetti to continue the search in Aruban waters for Natalee's remains ... I am done and ... I mean it.  If Kyle Kingman and Tim Trahan are participants in the scenario ... I will scream.

Janet

If Dave and Tim are aware and do a search i'd feel the same way!If Tim Miller is completely and,fully aware of what transpired out in them waters,i don't understand how he coexists with these people??Are there not other people able to help in his searches??

[Tamikosmom]

If after reading Kyle Kingman's own words and observing the ROV images ... Tim Miller and Dave Holloway join up with John Silvetti to continue the search in Aruban waters for Natalee's remains ... I am done and ... I mean it.  If Kyle Kingman and Tim Trahan are participants in the scenario ... I will scream.

Janet

If Dave and Tim are aware and do a search i'd feel the same way!If Tim Miller is completely and,fully aware of what transpired out in them waters,i don't understand how he coexists with these people??Are there not other people able to help in his searches??

My sentiments exactly.

I will now tippy toe away ....


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[Keepthefaith]

If after reading Kyle Kingman's own words and observing the ROV images ... Tim Miller and Dave Holloway join up with John Silvetti to continue the search in Aruban waters for Natalee's remains ... I am done and ... I mean it.  If Kyle Kingman and Tim Trahan are participants in the scenario ... I will scream.

Janet

If Dave and Tim are aware and do a search i'd feel the same way!If Tim Miller is completely and,fully aware of what transpired out in them waters,i don't understand how he coexists with these people??Are there not other people able to help in his searches??

My sentiments exactly.

I will now tippy toe away ....

[/quote]

All i want is the TRUTH,no matter where that takes me.PERIOD....

[Tamikosmom]

did ya notice the pattern?

mafia controlled
AHTA influence
Dutch Prosecutor's with agendas and it ain't to bring justice
Donation money
Silvetti/Schaefer OIL & vessels oh my
Lawsuits/investors/Petrobras/switch assets and MONEY
accuse and twist faster then chubby checker

I did notice, and have noticed the whole time.

1.Mafia controlled Aruba, fully involved in Drugs,smuggling, corruption, gambling, drugs, prostitution, murders hidden as suicides.
2. Silvetti with a agenda in oil exploration, But he did include Natalee. It appears to actually be designed to bleed donation money away from the Holloway group while accomplishing the first agenda of mapping the ocean floor for Aruba.
This would be the business people and politicians on Aruba that would like to see Dave Holloway crippled in any further search attempts.3. OIL is a dirty business, full of corruption and mafia type people. U.S. and Russian oil is riddled with it. Oil industry is connected to almost everything from car manufacturing to teachers unions to insurance companies and hotels and gambling and the list goes on and on.
 

BINGO!!

... and Dave Holloway and Tim Miller do not get it.

 

I wish Private Eye would have a one on one with each of these men and ... try to convince them that a positive outcome when joining forces with the enemy is not going to happen.

Janet

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private eye
Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »

But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.

... What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750

[Keepthefaith]

Hey Bastibro.Can you email Johan and ask him if we're done and we can go back to our research?TIA..Again.Johan started the party,called out Kermit,Kermit came,Responded,Johan left,and here we are!Back to the research...

[Keepthefaith]

Hey Bastibro.Can you email Johan and ask him if we're done and we can go back to our research?TIA..Again.Johan started the party,called out Kermit,Kermit came,Responded,Johan left,and here we are!Back to the research...

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