Natalee Case Discussion #805 3/6/09 - 3/9/09

[klaasend]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

It does make me wonder if CnG is dying a slow death though.   

[Keepthefaith]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

                                JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY


PERSISTENCE...THE TRUTH SHALL REVEAL ITSELF IN TIME.....

[Magnolia]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

I think all of the above talked a good game and wrote it well, but their heart was not in the right place,
except LoRain, who was always a cohort or Mark Purcell

[Magnolia]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

It does make me wonder if CnG is dying a slow death though.   

I think it may be since Destiny is over at GM shootin' birds to monkeys.

[Tamikosmom]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

It does make me wonder if CnG is dying a slow death though.   

Considering that the recent bannings at SM have prevented drivebys to disrupt meaningful dialogue that is exposing the John Silvetti betrayal ... maybe the agenda is to join open forums and let the disruptions begin.

I have a feeling the Kermit's driveby thread at GM is going to go poof from the open forum and emerge in the hidey hole.  Any cutting and pasting should be done quickly.  I did not do images.

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

They've dedicated a whole forum to Kermit but,Not a mention of all of Kyle's words...

Keepthefaith ... it is realized by John Silvetti supporters that Kyle Kingman's words reveal the truth encompassing his betrayal of Natalee Holloway, the family and those who embraced the Persistence undertaking with prayers and financial support.

Kyle Kingman holds the the power ... the Ace card and ... he must be appeased if John Silvetti is to be protected from the legal and professional fallout encompassing so many aspects of the Persistence deception.

THE PROBLEM: Kyle Kingman's own words.

THE SOLUTION: Create a smokescreen to obscure Kyle Kingman's own words. The messengers must be the focus. The messengers (Kermit/Natalee's Freebirds/Monkeys) must be discredited.

Janet

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iris44
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
« Reply #487 on: January 08, 2009, 05:58:05 AM »

If all this Persistence/Kyle conspiracy theory stuff is the real deal, why is the family, the media, etc. not jumping all over it? The more I read all Kyle's "statements" the more he reminds of when my son was 14 and had his own website. I think Kyle the ocean exploring geek has a little make believe world going on, and you're all going along for the ride. …

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4351.msg617328#msg617328


Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


San
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #804
« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2009, 04:59:48 PM »

This was posted at BFN by LegallyLex who is Silvetti's sister:

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8398.msg408940#msg408940

Quote from: LegallyLex on March 02, 2009, 12:46:20 PM

And I would again like to thank the Persistence and their crew for their selfless acts during the search along with Mr. Schaeffer who funded the search.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4617.msg699240#msg699240

This is where it's at.....

[Tamikosmom]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

I think all of the above talked a good game and wrote it well, but their heart was not in the right place,
except LoRain, who was always a cohort or Mark Purcell

I agree.

However ... they all appear to be part of the Mark Purcell gang now.

 

I hope we are all wrong Magnolia.

Janet

[nimrod]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

[Lifesong]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

They've dedicated a whole forum to Kermit but,Not a mention of all of Kyle's words...

Please forgive me, I'm at least a page behind, but I have to say:


You cannot stand behind Kyle Kingman, without some explanation of all these statements AND the hiding of the evidence collection videos.  Exactly what the hell was he doing?

You cannot stand behind John Silvetti without explaining why he was just duped by ALE and more specifically how and by whom.

There are names on that list of people I wish would post!  That I always came here to read.  I want to hear the other side of the story.

I wish you guys would leave Kermit out of it and explain.

[Keepthefaith]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

They've dedicated a whole forum to Kermit but,Not a mention of all of Kyle's words...

Please forgive me, I'm at least a page behind, but I have to say:


You cannot stand behind Kyle Kingman, without some explanation of all these statements AND the hiding of the evidence collection videos.  Exactly what the hell was he doing?

You cannot stand behind John Silvetti without explaining why he was just duped by ALE and more specifically how and by whom.

There are names on that list of people I wish would post!  That I always came here to read.  I want to hear the other side of the story.

I wish you guys would leave Kermit out of it and explain.

I think that say's it all LifeSong..The problem is they can't!

[Lifesong]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

They've dedicated a whole forum to Kermit but,Not a mention of all of Kyle's words...

Please forgive me, I'm at least a page behind, but I have to say:


You cannot stand behind Kyle Kingman, without some explanation of all these statements AND the hiding of the evidence collection videos.  Exactly what the hell was he doing?

You cannot stand behind John Silvetti without explaining why he was just duped by ALE and more specifically how and by whom.

There are names on that list of people I wish would post!  That I always came here to read.  I want to hear the other side of the story.

I wish you guys would leave Kermit out of it and explain.

Edit to add:  There are also names on that list that should never post again. 

JMO and only MO

[Magnolia]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

I think all of the above talked a good game and wrote it well, but their heart was not in the right place,
except LoRain, who was always a cohort or Mark Purcell

I agree.

However ... they all appear to be part of the Mark Purcell gang now.

 

I hope we are all wrong Magnolia.

Janet

It would be nice if we were wrong, Janet, but I fear they have all burned their
bridges.......never a good move IMO.
The fact that they attack Kermit is so wrong.  Those are not Kermit's words,
they are Kyle Kingman's words, and that fact has been backed up by others from the Freebirds.

Wonder what has happened to the oracle, CapsLockWizzard?
I guess they are still backing him too.

[Keepthefaith]

bleachedblack, Destiny, MumInOhio, SS, katysmom, Vicki, LoRain, johan555, Sue, casa


The Gold Monkey Line-up..... courtesy of GM...

 

This detective wannabe has been truly humbled.  I had speculated that all the above were the "good" guys.

Janet

I think all of the above talked a good game and wrote it well, but their heart was not in the right place,
except LoRain, who was always a cohort or Mark Purcell

I agree.

However ... they all appear to be part of the Mark Purcell gang now.

 

I hope we are all wrong Magnolia.

Janet

It would be nice if we were wrong, Janet, but I fear they have all burned their
bridges.......never a good move IMO.
The fact that they attack Kermit is so wrong.  Those are not Kermit's words,
they are Kyle Kingman's words, and that fact has been backed up by others from the Freebirds.

Wonder what has happened to the oracle, CapsLockWizzard?
I guess they are still backing him too.

[Lifesong]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

You know, to my knowledge God only made one perfect human. 

All of us are flawed. 

If you listen to Tim Miller interviews you hear ones where he's clear as a bell and ones where he's slurring.  I don't know Tim Miller, have never met him.  But having a drinking problem would not change the fact that as of like July, 2007 he had performed, iirc something like over 720 searches for missing people.  People that had families.  People who mattered.  I imagine if I carried that heavy a burden I'd get drunk at night too.  Maybe at least for a while.  Idk.

I think Kyle's so self-enamored he gets a little carried away, but I don't know him either.

I've seen the pictures from January 7th. 
 

[Keepthefaith]

Keepthefaith, cp405, BUCKSHOT, Magnolia, rjdeer, bastibro, Lifesong, 2NJSons_Mom, nimrod, Debbie, San

Come down and join the party

[Tamikosmom]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

I am a believer in Kyle Kingman's own words that were submitted to the Natalee's Freebirds' site ... a private site ... words that expose John Silvetti's betrayal.

Nimrod ... I am taking your word for it that Kyle Kingman stated thatT im Miller had a drinking problem.  I do not have a quote.  However ... maybe ... just maybe ... Kyle Kingman just may know from first hand observation.  Both of  these men held key positions on board the Persistence.

Nimrod ... do you have first hand credible information to the contrary?

Janet

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The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007

I. Mobilization

Key Personnel:
 
Louis Shaffer - Project Lead and Key Contributor - Responsible for financial support, planning, public relations, and press coordination.
 
Tim Miller - Texas Equusearch http://www.texasequusearch.org/ - Project Management, gathering support, missing persons specialist

Tim Trahan - Underwater Expeditions - Project Management

John Silvetti - Project Lead and Key Contributor- Responsible for overall project planning and development. Owner of Marine Surveys, LLC . Donated the R/V Persistence for the search effort.
http://silvettigroup.com/

Marc Broussard - Project Manager - Responsible for logistics, personnel, and planning.

Kent Bourg- Party Chief - Responsible for the R/V Persistence operations and safety. Kent will also operate the side scan sonar.

Kyle Kingman - Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.

Dr. Rob Floyd - Marine Geologist /Archaeologist - Responsible for analog sonar data interpretation and analysis and quality control.
Anthony Fontenot - Acoustic Positioning Technician - Responsible for navigation, acoustic tracking, and positioning of the side scan sonar and ROV.

Posted by Kyle Kingman
http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html

[nimrod]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

You know, to my knowledge God only made one perfect human. 

All of us are flawed. 

If you listen to Tim Miller interviews you hear ones where he's clear as a bell and ones where he's slurring.  I don't know Tim Miller, have never met him.  But having a drinking problem would not change the fact that as of like July, 2007 he had performed, iirc something like over 720 searches for missing people.  People that had families.  People who mattered.  I imagine if I carried that heavy a burden I'd get drunk at night too.  Maybe at least for a while.  Idk.

I think Kyle's so self-enamored he gets a little carried away, but I don't know him either.

I've seen the pictures from January 7th. 
 

I agree with you. If I had been through what Tim Miller has with losing his daughter and then having to suffer through all the searches and heartbreaks of other families with missing loved ones, I don't know if I could handle it.

Tim Miller is my hero!

[nimrod]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

I am a believer in Kyle Kingman's own words that were submitted to the Natalee's Freebirds' site ... a private site ... words that expose John Silvetti's betrayal.

Nimrod ... I am taking your word for it that Kyle Kingman stated thatT im Miller had a drinking problem.  I do not have a quote.  However ... maybe ... just maybe ... Kyle Kingman just may know from first hand observation.  Both of  these men held key positions on board the Persistence.

Nimrod ... do you have first hand credible information to the contrary?

Janet

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The Search for Natalee Holloway
Monday, November 26, 2007

I. Mobilization

Key Personnel:
 
Louis Shaffer - Project Lead and Key Contributor - Responsible for financial support, planning, public relations, and press coordination.
 
Tim Miller - Texas Equusearch http://www.texasequusearch.org/ - Project Management, gathering support, missing persons specialist

Tim Trahan - Underwater Expeditions - Project Management

John Silvetti - Project Lead and Key Contributor- Responsible for overall project planning and development. Owner of Marine Surveys, LLC . Donated the R/V Persistence for the search effort.
http://silvettigroup.com/

Marc Broussard - Project Manager - Responsible for logistics, personnel, and planning.

Kent Bourg- Party Chief - Responsible for the R/V Persistence operations and safety. Kent will also operate the side scan sonar.

Kyle Kingman - Field Project Manager, Geophysical Engineer and Marine Geologist - Responsible for side scan sonar acquisition, digital processing, analysis, and target identification. Kyle will assist in side scan sonar operation and guide the ROV (remotely operated vehicle) team to each sonar target.

Dr. Rob Floyd - Marine Geologist /Archaeologist - Responsible for analog sonar data interpretation and analysis and quality control.
Anthony Fontenot - Acoustic Positioning Technician - Responsible for navigation, acoustic tracking, and positioning of the side scan sonar and ROV.

Posted by Kyle Kingman
http://jlbworld.com/files/chapter23/sitedevotedtoseasearch.htm
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/11/mobilization.html

To answer your question, yes, but you will have to ask Jen for it, as I was banned frome the Freebirds also.

[Magnolia]

So....Tim Miller drinks a bit.  It doesn't keep him from his mission.

When he was last in Birmingham to look for a missing girl, it was said that he
had bleeding ulcers of the colon....akin to chrone's disease or ulcerative colitis.
That is why he is so thin.

That condition would stop him from any excessive drinking.

[Tamikosmom]

I stopped believing anything that Kyle said when he said Tim Miller had a drinking problem.

Maybe Tim Miller shared with Kyle Kingman that he had a drinking problem.

My brother is an alcoholic who has not had a drink in over seven years.  However ... he will be the first to admit he has ... not had ... a drinking problem.

Janet

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A Profile of Tim Miller and Texas EquuSearch

By Katherine Ramsland
Police Misconduct

<snipped>

Then there was more turmoil. As often happens when a child dies, Miller and his wife separated and divorced. He entered Alcoholics Anonymous and received counseling. "It was very painful but each day got better, unless there was new information or there were new leads." Then he'd remember and feel the pain all over again.

<snipped>

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/texas_equusearch/5.html