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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #805 3/6/09 - 3/9/09  (Read 149739 times)
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« on: March 03, 2009, 08:46:23 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 06:29:22 PM »

 
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 06:35:29 PM »

jen ... I saw ya lurking on the other thread.

Are ya feeling better or ...

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Take care hon.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 06:36:58 PM »

jen ... I saw ya lurking on the other thread.

Are ya feeling better or ...

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Take care hon.

Janet

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 06:37:31 PM »

I give up!

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 06:43:48 PM »

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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2009, 06:52:07 PM »

http://www.diarioaruba.com/diahuebs/noticia/news2.html

3/5/2009 Diario Online




Papiamentu translation:

much expectativa here at aruba! pelicula “natalee holloway: the movie” will happen at tv at month of april oranjestad (aan): in the dianan here can see cu on the canal lifetime movie network (lmn) they're promocionando the pelicula “natalee holloway: the movie”. the pelicula, basa in the book of beth twitty (loving natalee: owing to mother’s testament or hope and faith), will happen on canal 27 day 19 of april for 9 pm. according beth twitty, the is one pelicula is focus on the esfuerzonan cu owing to being haci for achieve know kico owing to happen cu his child muher of 18 year cu owing to desaparece at aruba. lifetime movie network (lmn) is one canal dirigi at person muher. akinan they have one day special caminda they're happen peliculanan relaciona cu casonan regal. the actriz tracy pollan (“family ties”, “law & order: svu”), casa of the conocido actor michael j. fox (“back to the future”) is interpreta the paper of mother of natalee. in the paper of natalee will have amy gumenick (“supernatural”), y also the participacion of grant show (melrose place). the pelicula owing to wordo filma at south africa at month of january. come across
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2009, 07:25:07 PM »

TxMom,

Oh, I am just so sure Aruba is thrilled about the new Natalee movie.


 
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2009, 07:37:27 PM »

Cheapo   

There was a time my sweet nothings would get me my own way every time.

 

Anyways ... a lasagna is now in the oven ... sissor buns will be next.  I am now in the process of making a salad.

I really outdid myself.

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2009, 07:39:54 PM »

TxMom,

Oh, I am just so sure Aruba is thrilled about the new Natalee movie.


 

Yes, I'm sure they just LOVE the refreshed publicity of the case!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2009, 08:07:00 PM »

Something happened in court in Aruba today, I think some kind of dispute that got out of hand and the polis were called.  That looks like Michael Williams in the middle of the  picture to me.

http://www.awe24.com/_moblog/externalInterface/extFrame.php?id=168&mId=1



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2009, 08:07:42 PM »

Klass..I'll hang out 4 Caylee's lock. If it gets too late, I'll give you a shout 
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2009, 08:08:39 PM »

Something happened in court in Aruba today, I think some kind of dispute that got out of hand and the polis were called.  That looks like Michael Williams in the middle of the  picture to me.

http://www.awe24.com/_moblog/externalInterface/extFrame.php?id=168&mId=1





Papiamentu translation:

situation owing to hera bay for of hand fast corte of husticia fecha: 06/03/2009 | horario: 14:03 diabierna afternoon as we owing to informa end in another informe more early the situation at corte owing to escala hour cu familiarnan y esnan envolvi will owing to arise contra another. the oficialnan of c.e.a. owing to controla the situation much good but hour the asunto owing to escala owing to ask refuerso of police. come across

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2009, 08:20:09 PM »

I'm bringing this over from the last thread KTF if You have time please take a look at them and see if there is anything of interest.....TIA...BBL Supper is Ready!

 
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   Re: Natalee Case Discussion #804 3/1/09 -
« Reply #958 on: Today at 04:43:55 PM » 

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Hey Monkeys..I've been really busy today and only have a few minutes but I wanted to post this.... I'll BBL

http://ww7.investorrelations.co.uk/acergy/uploads/generalreleases/Oct.21.08_Cessationoftalks.pdf
http://ww7.investorrelations.co.uk/acergy/uploads/generalreleases/Apr0307_Mexilhao.pdf


http://ww7.investorrelations.co.uk/acergy/uploads/generalreleases/Jun.30.06_Statoil_D2.pdf

http://ww7.investorrelations.co.uk/acergy/uploads/generalreleases/Feb1306_Brazil_contracts.pdf
http://ww7.investorrelations.co.uk/acergy/uploads/generalreleases/Jan.07.05Stolt-NielsentoSellHoldinginStoltOffshore.pdf
 
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2009, 08:37:26 PM »

Nut thank you for responding about the donations solicitation post, I appreciate it. Jen thanks for your info as well !

KTF are you always so energetic?  It's part of your charm !

I have another question, I thought I might have remembered LifeSong as having posted about having made a donation for the Persistence search? I could be wrong regarding who posted that but my question was whether anyone here who did make a donation, ever received a confirmation of receipt via email or snail mail?

TIA once again !

It's good to see so many of you  on this fresh new thread 

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2009, 08:38:55 PM »

Klass..I'll hang out 4 Caylee's lock. If it gets too late, I'll give you a shout 

Thanks Nut - I've been neglecting the locks and I'm relieved to have you and others helping.   
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 08:40:30 PM »

Nut thank you for responding about the donations solicitation post, I appreciate it. Jen thanks for your info as well !

KTF are you always so energetic?  It's part of your charm !

I have another question, I thought I might have remembered LifeSong as having posted about having made a donation for the Persistence search? I could be wrong regarding who posted that but my question was whether anyone here who did make a donation, ever received a confirmation of receipt via email or snail mail?

TIA once again !

It's good to see so many of you  on this fresh new thread 



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I believe I received a confirmation by email and ... a recept by mail.

I will check into it an let your know.

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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 08:42:44 PM »


Got it, Rob, thank you!

02/27/2008NEW
The Persistence blog maintained by Kyle Kingman:  “Over the past several days, the Persistence has been working with the help of the Aruban police in shallow water.”

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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 08:53:45 PM »

The outcome of the Persistence undertaking was doomed to be negative from the getgo if there was not a plan in place in regards to Aruban chain of custody protocol if something Natalee Holloway case related was discovered.  Logic dictates that an Aruban invitation should have been afforded to the FBI and secured in the preparation stages of such a huge undertaking.

Beth Holloway's brother says it best ...

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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman: The FBI told me they could not send a representative down to us in Aruba unless they were specifically invited to do so by the Aruban authorities. They were simply uninvited.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.


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« Reply #690 on: March 13, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756

don't believe that Kyle or anyone else is allowed to review the case documents, according to the policy of the prosecutors office. I thought the beauty of the Persistence is that they were to do a true grid seach mission which depends not on psychics or even tips from the authorities, and as such their work would be independent of the investigation. They were there simply to attempt to search a predefined area for Natalee's remains. So I am not sure why they have been lured into defending the work of the Aruban authorities or a discussion of the validity of the investigation as they are not knowledgeable as to the investigation, other than what they have been told by these Arubans. There are an awful lot of highly educated people who have been chumped by people of far less formal education. A well trained police force is not thwarted by a grieving mother and the media.

And Kyle, I by no means am being disrespectful, I think you are brilliant, sincerely. But I don't think your education or work experience has prepared you for a cover up by these types of people. And I think you may be severely underestimating the education, experience, and wisdom of the monkeys and other coverup believers. Don't let them make a fool of you. We need you.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364756#msg364756


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If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245


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« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »


... But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 08:59:48 PM »

Another good that jen shared with Monkeys this morning.

Janet

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Kyle Kingman:
  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive. We were encouraged to do so and invited by the Arubans. I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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